Prayer vs Power of the Mind

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   WryLiltposted 13 years ago

   Much as I hate to venture into these forums without my bodyguards I'm interested on opinions about a specific subject.
   
   I've been studying into things including the power of the mind, mantras and telekinesis.
   
   I'm just curious how many people believe that prayer and the power of the mind fall into the same category?
   
   I began thinking about this because I realized that I believe in prayer but don't believe in god - which confused me at first until I thought it through.
   
   Interesting to hear (non radical) opinions on this.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yes for me.

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I am applying for post of being your body guard ...
      
      what you are entering is one of most mysterious things about mind...according to mind power practitioners...god , faith,prayer etc etc are in end working at mind level only...it is brain which makes things happen ...

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         WryLiltposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Haha yeah I think I need one in the religious forums.
         
         Glad to hear no one has jumped on me and laughed yet!

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            well it is becoz of ur reputation of being one of most profilic hubber with great thinking brain ...wow....i guess i should get job of ur body guard soon...

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      kessposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Without the understanding of self which is the understanding of the mind...
      
      Prayers and praying have a tendency be very deceptive to those involved.
      
      Because these prayers may at time are in sync in varying with the laws which govern them..
      
      So when there is an answer... those involve rejoice because they think that their methodology is correct, thus the answer.
      
      
      ...but the knowledge by which they really occur is still absent among them. thus they deceive themselves and others..
      
      But where there is knowledge, all prayers are answered....every single one.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I totally agree with you, the are both so much in the baloney category.

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         just_curiousposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So, you don't believe in mystics either? Is there anything you take seriously?

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The fact that the irrational beliefs of believers don't end at just their religious beliefs is not surprising and is in fact expected. This is a result of childhood indoctrination in which irrational beliefs are to be accepted with no critical thought applied whatsoever.

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               just_curiousposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Ok. But, I knew it was a silly question when I asked it.

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      Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      From my own experience, prayer is a way to focus our thoughts, and when we do this, there seems to be ample creativity and problem solving involved. At least, if you can get beyond the desperate prayers of "save me!" I find prayer and meditation are powerful ways to get clear with yourself, and thus allow some type of progress, or just receive some inner peace. Both are needed and valuable.
      
      On a metaphysical level, if you believe in God, and come to realize that God is not separate from us, but actually in us, then you also begin to tap a different level of awareness. Even if you don't believe this concept, the idea of prayer and meditation are still empowering, at least in my experience.
      
      I personally think God is irrelevant. Once you begin to define in any way what or who God is, the concept is immediately distorted, and that's where all the battles start. I don't know that there is a God, and it's irrelevant to me. If there is and that God wants me aware of it, that will happen. If not, no big.

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      paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think prayer done with concentration adds to the power of mind; they both are complementary and not contradictory of one another.

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   kirstenblogposted 13 years ago

   Interesting topic, I feel there is something there. Prayer, and the belief that it holds some sort of power, seem to have a very similar effect as positive thinking can when you are say ill.
   
   This kinda reminds me of a thing I watched a while back. It was an experiment where they took older people and had them live in a house that was made to be like what they had known in youth. The TV showed all their favorite programs, the furnishings and decorations were totally from the 1970's. All of the seniors benefited from the "thinking young" encouragement they were getting. One of the ladies went from almost bed ridden to dancing and forgetting her cane. It was pretty impressive to see the effect that attitude and belief had on health.

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   just_curiousposted 13 years ago

   I don't believe them to be the same, but the power of the mind can do some amazing things. I think if people understood just how much their subconscious can do they'd focus a little harder on meditation. You can will away a lot of negativity simply with a little meditation.
   
   Your body can heal itself of many minor ills just as quickly as drugs, if you don't medicate yourself to the point it can't see the problem.

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   skyfireposted 13 years ago

   I'm sure in your case that is focus, which is non-religious.
   
   Any activity that our mind picks up with focus gives positive results. Prayers like - 'oh jesus uncle please raise my online earning stats' no matter how hard and with desperation will give no results.
   
   Telekinesis = BS.
   Mantras = Gibberish output from mouth for mental satisfaction.
   Prayers =Telekinesis+Mantra with personal satisfaction.
   
   These are some of the methods people prefer to keep their low scope brain into some sort of loop, which helps them escape from logical reasoning, difficult questions around themselves.
   
   So stick with focus and constant analysis in life rather than prayers. Focus and action always gives result.

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   Jeramiposted 13 years ago

   Daniel Carter wrote
     On a metaphysical level, if you believe in God, and come to realize that God is not separate from us, but actually in us, then you also begin to tap a different level of awareness. Even if you don't believe this concept, the idea of prayer and meditation are still empowering, at least in my experience.
   
   I personally think God is irrelevant. Once you begin to define in any way what or who God is, the concept is immediately distorted, and that's where all the battles start. I don't know that there is a God, and it's irrelevant to me. If there is and that God wants me aware of it, that will happen. If not, no big.
   
   - - - - -
   
      That sounds about right.
   
      Whether it is God that is within us  OR 
   (at the very least) .. that connection is made from within.
   
      either or   is good for me.

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   graceomalleyposted 13 years ago

   Interesting question. Have you read "Eat, Pray, Love"? In the section about India she talks quite a bit about mantras and her experience with meditation.
   
   Personally, I find prayer helps me clarify. For me it isn't primarily about getting things or making certain things happen. More about um...experiencing God. I'm aware that sounds dorky, but i don't know how else to put it. i guess i am talking about an experience, and you are asking more a theoretical question.
   
   How's this: I think I become more the person I have the potential to be when I focus on God(prayer) which would mean my mind is more powerful.

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