As some of you might know, I posted a link to this article, on facebook and redgage, a while back in regards to the Pope's concerns to the increase in divorces for the past few years. Here's the article if you'd like to know the full details:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_ … n_marriage
Anyways, assuming you just read that article now, what are your thoughts on this? Is the Pope right in his thinking? Or should he mind his own business better? What are your thoughts on this?
He does have a vallid point, and one would think that if this man is to be the spiritual leader of the Catholic church they would feel obligated to heed his councel.
Hmm...I would say that Marriage is a Privilege...At least it is in most states...If it wasn't, why would anyone care if Gays get married...If everyone had the "Right" to be Married then anyone could be married...Not just the Male/Female versions...
I would say that the Pope is out of touch with the Holy Bible, the book he claims as the church's instructional authority. The Holy Bible is the "Supreme Authoritative text of Christianity and Catholosism, and must be strictly adhered to first and fore-most.
The Bible states that the one and only reason that a divorce can be granted is infidelity. Matt. 5: 31-32.
It took me a moment to stop laughing after reading that. Yes, I think he should mind his own business, but I've read much more ridiculous things than that from the vatican.
I read the article and it goes to show that the amount of religious influence and misinformation is continuing to distort what are rights of the individual, just so the "divine" can be justified. It's ridiculous.
I wrote a hub on rights. Rights are unlimited. Rights are tied to choices(actions). Actions are tied to Morals, either good or bad.
Nothing bad can be a right, so that makes Rights good actions. Marriage boils down to a Choice made by two separate individuals.
Therefore, the pope and his skewed motives has no ground to stand on.
...he's only referring to marriage of catholic followers...not all marriages...it's a rite not a right....
I think we may be asking the wrong question. It is my belief that marriage should be separate from both the State and Religion institutions as a whole. Marriage is an individual right and if any governance is used, it should be on a local community-based level, if that. I wish everyone would fight for the dissolution of marriage through the State and separation of the marriage rites in Religion rather than simply crying out for equality. It seems like an otherwise futile fight for true and absolute freedom. Because, to me, individuals govern their lives, thus have a right to choose if and to whom they marry.
As far as I'm concerned, any State or religious involvement is merely unnecessary interference...Clearly, this is shown through the preferential treatment of heterosexual and still ongoing prohibition of homosexual marriages.
(For the record, I am Libertarian.)
I do believe the Pope is expressing the lackadaisical attitude people have regarding the sanctity of marriage.
Apparently not enough of an effort is being made towards recognizing the seriousness of a union between a man and a woman.
As I see it relationships should not be like purchasing a new vehicle-try it out for a few days to see how you like it.
The sanctity of marriage is very important since now two families have come together to now create a community.
I would leave by saying "marriage is not for wimps."
According to Paul's first letter to the Corinthians (chapter 8) marriage is a sinless way to control your sexual nature.
God also told us to be fruitful and multiply in the bounds of marriage. God gave Eve to Adam as a helper.I just got married last Sat. because I know I will be with my Sweetheart forever and wanted to quit "living in sin".
I would like to thank everyone that has commented thus far, and to say that I do value your input on the topic. Seriously, I do. However, after reading all the comments in this forum, I'm going to have to agree with the consensus that the Pope probably needs to mind his own business when it comes to marriage. After all, one can just as easily get married in front of a judge too; without any religious restrictions.
Don't get me wrong, I understand where he's coming from on this, as all marriages are sacred. But in the end, it's really up to the couple to decide to marry or not. Not the Pope or any other religious benefactor. Plus, as far as his concern about couples divorcing goes, again that's their choice..not the churches. After all, as easy as it is to fall in love with someone, sometimes people fall out of it. Therefore, even if the Pope does implement his little idea, there's no guarantee that the same couple won't fall out of love later on. Things happen. People change. I think all this really does is make the church look bad in the public's eyes more so than it helps....
Without reading the linked document
The pope should take up sewing, stay out of religion and yes, mind his own business.
can any good thing come out of a pope?
I don't think it's a right nor do I think it's a privilege. Historically, marriage has been seen as an arrangement. Having said that, he's specifically talking about a church sanctioned wedding and in that scenario it's really more of a privilege that the church grants you.
Flightkeeper,
I agree with you. People can marry whatever way the like any many do but if we're talking about religious marriages which when we involved the Pope that's seems about what we're saying and from that stand point it has been said their are 3 entities involved in marriage-The Husband, The Wife and God.
I think that is what confuses many people. Anyone can get married. There's many who do it at city hall and they are just as valid. But if you get married in a church, whether that's Catholic, Protestant or Eastern Orthodox, your marriage is basically a privilege granted by that church with the expectation that those rites are meaningful to you and that you adhere to the vows that you take.
Lead Life with out marriage is good.pl make bond those who are not able to lead .- BIBLE SAYS
Is Marriage a Right? Or a Privilege?
It is a natural desire created in one by the Creator-God for continuity of human life.
well i guess marriage is a privilege from God, nothing on a earth is a right, everything is a privilege we ought to use wisely, the only right we have is the provision of privileges.
A privilege? Yes. A right? No. You can only get married if you're a competent informed consenting adult, and can find another one who you want to marry, and who is willing to marry you. If you can fulfill those requirements, then you can get married. If you can't, then you can't.
No other requirements should exist, but we seem to want to put all manner of other requirements (usually based on our own prejudices) on it.
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