Athiests, why bother visiting insane Christian forums?
Yes, I do live in that world.
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Love it.
I started a thread years ago, called "fools debating with fools" (or something like that).
It too, asked, "Why bother"?Often times I do it just to get a good laugh.
If they are stuck on themselves being right they usually slip and flip flop views on sub-categories.
Happened just recently in dj's thread.. lol
I admit it.. I laugh at some things they say.
Like time isn't real.. lol. Or Einstein's work is nonsense.. What?? 
Yep, you heard right. They know more than Einstein.
And this JUST happened. That, and I hope once a few people go read some of it they start thinking.. It gives the unmotivated toward God to possibly search for Him.
But mostly because the stuff they fabricate doesn't even exist in books and it's more like a comedy show.
If an adult sincerely believed in Santa -- and this adult was otherwise entirely compos mentis -- then I don't know that I would try to dissuade him or her. If a handful of adults believed in Santa, then -- similarly -- I don't know that I would try to dissuade them. After all, there is nothing intrinsically destructive about believing in Santa, and a small number of folks believing something silly seldom has the capacity for harm. Further, a harmless belief doesn't generally become more dangerous as the number of adherents increase.
Some atheists -- I'm unwilling to guess what percentage of them -- believe that believing in God is dangerous, hence they seek to reduce the numbers of theists in the world by the power of persuasion. Other atheists are also agnostics -- this describes myself -- and enjoy engaging with believers for the purpose of settling the question.
I assume you don't think believers are insane because you engage with them previously stating that you would not engage with a person who was compos mentis. Therefore you would not contradict yourself.
You are right, of course. You are thinking reasonably. Many atheists believe believing in God is dangerous although I don't see how Christianity is dangerous. There's a difference between a religion and extremists. AS you say, atheists hope to dissuade believers but if believers are insane, then it will be futile.Then tell us, is it futile, Claire?
All you just did was show your total ignorance of what Jesus taught.
When you get the lesson, come back and tell all of us!
Until then, all I can say is, !!
I think you should have posted this in the other thread, the one about Atheist intelligence! Jesus taught??? Or you meant what is purported as jesus teachings?
Mark 9:47 And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out.
Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."
john 6:53 So Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you
And you are doing all these?
But...you haven't seen me during the full moon!
My faith is very personal to me, although I don't hold much with organized religion. I enjoy my relationship with God, and it gives me a feeling of comfort and hope. But each human has to find his own path - with religion, spiritualism, atheism, etc. And no matter how how well meaning some Christians might be, you can't force religion on anyone. To try to do so is a waste of time. I don't mind telling people about Christianity if they ask, but if they're not open to it, I don't force the issue. Nor do I think atheists are evil, or that all religious people are good.And, that is why non-believers appreciate the honesty and integrity you exhibit here even if we don't agree with the finer points of your beliefs.
However, if you could get someone to video you during a full moon, I'm sure we'd all like to see that.
If you were telling the truth, it wouldn't sound as insane as it does.
When you can acknowledge and compare your religious beliefs to that of the many other religious beliefs in the world and throughout history as being possible, then yours is as possible as theirs, considering none have a shred of evidence to support them.
In other words, why should anyone consider your religious beliefs as being true?
No problem.
Being firmly in the 5% myself, I geuss I'll just have to be the spokesman for the rest of the 5%ers....they think declaring it is pointless. Everyone on this planet is nutz!
Ok... seeing as you posted the def..
I give.
I'mz kwazzy...........
Why Claire..? Why would you do this ta meez?
..hey there Claire...i can be reasoned with..sometimes....depends on the day of the week and the season...the light is finally coming back and it's what? Wednesday/Mercredi...
...i sense truble...luv the title of the thread!...- Emile Rposted 12 years ago
0This forum is for religion and philosophy Claire. As difficult as this might be for you to wrap your head around, Christianity is one of many religions. And the word philosophy is not synonymous with Christianity. This is not your forum, Claire. It is open to everyone, even those whom you think are insane.
Just as it comforts you to say that anyone believing in the Flying Spaghetti Monster is insane. Is it the fact that they my be right? Get real. Your beliefs are childish nonsense, and nothing to fear.
The thought that God and Satan may exist is completely absurd to people who have the courage to use their common sense. Fear is for cowards.
I prefer brainwashed as opposed to insane.
Just like you have no idea who wrote the book of Mark. Now do you?
Your beliefs are not beyond any thinking person's understanding. Your beliefs are simply primitive, unintelligent, blatant LIES!
How would that prove Jesus' sanity?
The truth is: Jesus is imaginary. Have you considered that? Not at all!
lol! Totally delusional garbage propaganda! But it makes you feel like you are not brainwashed.
So is THIS the truth or just insane?
I've demanded nothing except for you to quit attempting to tell me what to do.
But I've come to accept disappointment from you.
Do you understand?
God bless.
Good day.Kind of like you telling others to accept Jesus or not?
I'll make an exception here to respond.
So you refuse to accept Jesus.
And you refuse to deny Him..
Now what brainiac?
Oh yeah.. " Christians are liars har har har! "
Boy, you're a great spokesman for the atheists . . .
Hypocrisy in action.
Then you are, unfortunately, the victims of a vicious hoax.
Thanks for pointing out my disrespect while disrespecting me. You are amusing Vector.
I'm not mocking. I'm simply challenging your absurd assertions, of which you have not yet provided any level of intelligent rebuttal.
Sorry you are attached to such a foolish Lord. Detach yourself and become free of the delusion that has permeated your being.
Yep...many other psychotic minds can't be wrong!
You are way too attached to these archaic nonsensical beliefs, man. I have only given a straightforward rebuttal of your ridiculous beliefs, and you take this as a personal attack.
Thank you.
Because the FSM IS GOD!!! And there can be only one, or are you suggesting multiple Gods?
Using odds and probabilities, your assertions are WAY MORE LIKELY TO BE LIES THAN TRUTH. It is not a matter of being 100 percent sure, but of just being in reality. Your assertions are mind-numbing nonsense, and you are just trying, desperately, to support your senseless beliefs with reason. Imagine that.
That's insane. I suppose you were there.
All this research in support of abject nonsensical, wishful thinking...that some Bronze Age fairytale is REALITY. It's ashame to use one's intellect to support one's psychosis.
The Koran is also complete garbage as well. Neither you nor brainwashed Muslims know anything about "divinity"
Very technical! The difference being that Jesus had a soul, right? And he could talk, right? And he wasn't resurrected through witdhcraft, right? Oh, that reminds me, I got to pick up a copy of the latest Harry Potter, and the Twilight Saga.
There is NO doubt that your beliefs are complete and utter nonsense. OK! I hereby commit "blasphemy" and declare the myth of God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit to be completely foolish, primitive, and delusional nonsense.
- The one who IS serious about claiming fairies exist also believes they are sane.
Absolutely agree with the former statement based on the latter.
Really man?
John 3:16???
There's more but if you can't see it, I'm not fighting you to show you.
The Son of man is a reference to the book of Daniel speaking about the coming Messiah.. The Son of God.
How do the same misconceptions come up over and over?
It's even in your post....
Matthew 25:62-64
They asked if Him if He was the Son of God.. Then they crucified Him claiming He was blaspheming because He said yes...
If Son of man meant what you think, do you think they would have crucified Him? For telling them He wasn't?
That verse proves my point in itself.
God blessEven if I only use the Bible for rolling papers to roll marijuana (only for re-sell, of course, since I don't smoke it) or prefer the New Testament for choice-select, Grade-C toilet paper for my arse, I'd still say that you have some comprehension issues on that particular, obvious verse.
If I were a Christian, I'd be LMAO @ you! Fortunately for me, I'm just an innocent spectator, so my backside is spared from falling off due to LOLs!- Well, at the very least, we can trust Christians to do something.
- Perhaps, there are those who understand "spiritual satisfaction" is complete nonsense embraced by the ignorant and delusional.
Oh no, like you asserted, "strangled by their own rigid belief systems "
I am quite reasonable, thank you very much! Oh, and you can visit me anytime in the asylum anytime. Perhaps we can chat over tea?
Glad to see you enjoy being hateful.
It doesn't matter what anyone does, you claim it's selfish.
YOU on the other hand ARE selfish, rude, arrogant, and spiteful.
Here, want to be hateful? Here is another opportunity to show everyone your colors.- <--- me being hateful
That is a lie.
Yes, keep evangelizing your religion to fulfill OUR needs.Thx, I'll tell the world.
You just keep listening and reading even though you don't like it.
I know.. It's hard to control your eyes.... lol
It always puzzles me why either belief bothers the other so much.
Didn't Einstein say something about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over expecting different results? I think that applies to just about everyone.I love the name of this forum. please atheist, leave us insane Christians alone!
We would love to do that, unfortunately, many Christians believe they've been commanded to spread the Gospel, which means they won't leave others alone. In other words, you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
- Yes, we're ignorant of facts.
- Yes, the Jews lack of denial is hard evidence of Jesus' existence.
Jews believe in all kinds of ridiculous nonsense when it comes to religion.
Funny how you confuse hard evidence with myths.No where did I say that it was "Hard" evidence. The existence of those around the main figure of Jesus is indicative that the man really lived. Now, as to whether or not he posessed super powers is totally another issue. That is better solid ground for a debate. To deny one prehistoric life is pointless and inarguable from a logical point of view. Sorry, but I think you are not terrible good in this forum, or any other religious forum. It isn't what you are putting in your mouth which defiles you! It is what's coming out. Get a grip, old guy!
Yes, just like eggs are indicative to the existence of the Easter Bunny.
From an incredible weak argument to focusing on me. Well done, sir. Your logical fallacies are stacked high and wide.
amongst the Jews and there for had to be married, as was their law.
NOT TRUE
Jesus was not an ORDAINED teacher or rabbi. This was a title of respect not one due to mans ordination.
Jesus never wrote the test
lol, You aggrevated the pee out of me and now I'm your attacker???
Get over yourself. You asked for me to pick at you, and please quote me from now on.
I haven't said anything mean to you.
Everyone has a finger to point and nothing to show.. lol
Btw, slandering my name behind my back all over the threads without an ounce of proof? THAT is attacking character.
No quote necessary, just look up.
Drop it and you'll never hear another peep, but I won't let you go around spilling lies.
Quotes, and you get apologies. Lies, and you get proof they are such.
And, we are to understand that you're statement, from the perspective of a religious believer who claims to have met Jesus is somehow valid over that of what scientists claim?
- What? So-called Christian scientists? Again, you are just being dishonest.
Looks like this has turned into an insane christian hub. Christians +1, Lions 0.
Any chance to learn and grow should be taken, no matter what your religion, beliefs, or place in which you reside.
Waiting on one of you to tell the truth. Can YOU tell the truth? Or are you another liar for Jeebus...with no integrity? Please give me something more than the childish foolishness I've been reading from all the deluded believers in these forums...so I can become a believer, therefore I won't have to go to hell.
"another liar for Jeebus..."
What are you?
A Mark Knowles mini-me?Your size wasn't being referenced in physical terms...lol
You think he didn't coin the term? I think he'd disagree.
And very testy for someone with numerous exclamation points in most of his posts.
Using that picture of me might as well fool you, as I'm not 'that dumb kid' you're thinking of.
If you don't like the association then I wouldn't use the phrases common to his reputation. Think?I forgot to say thank you.
I prefer looking young rather than old.
I used to hate it. But I've come to appreciate it.Well thx man!
Really?
Well, maybe it'll stay that way. The girls usually shoot at 22, but I'm not that young either.
Boy, you made my day. Not that I think you meant to.. lol
I'm not worried what you or anyone else thinks about my looks if that tells you anything.
But I'll take the compliment.
That's right, getitrite! You tell 'em!
How can they religiously rant before your atheist chant!?
Why do they even try to tell you a bogus tale before you speak about a fictitious evolutionary whale!?
How dare them speak of philosophic hell while you're an angel that can scientifically sing well!
Yeah, make those atheists look good!
To hell with Noah and the flood!
LOL!
You guys are funny, I'll give ya that...
lol.. you act like he stated this was the Christian forum..
Notice he didn't say 'here'?
He addressed the OP..
- jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years ago0
Experience often separates, but it would be nice if your thoughts could permeate the masses, right? Unfortunately, God or the lack of a God is a big problem for many. Things would be simpler if we could just say that we are all apart of the universe (God) or that we are all atomically connected to the cosmos and be done with it, albeit that's not usually the case. People have problems and often look for something outside when everything you need is from within. Sort of like studying fractals, for example, as the pattern that follows from here and on down can also work in a reverse fashion. It never seems to end, really... But it is always something and never nothing, if that makes any sense to ya.
Good luck preaching to these folks, although you'd probably be better off being a wise-ass like me, that way the respect given would at least be mutual between the two, atheist & theist. Agnostics are always excluded from this type of debate, of course, so pay attention to who you piss off; just saying...
Here is a thought, which I happened to be thinking last night. The three main religions constitute approximately three billion people, and according to the last world census, there are three billion chinese. The worlds population is roughly six billion. So, in conclusion, half the world is religious and the other half is chinese.
lotta other religions too. Probably is seven. The seventh billion used to be catholic choir boys.
- MrBouncebackposted 12 years ago0
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So, is this "angel" just a metaphor? A figure of speech? Are you using it to describe something about yourself which you would like us to know about, Vector?
It seems that you might have some very nasty demons hanging on inside of you, and you are looking in a mirror.
I can't wait for the end of 2012, apparently some wonderful fireworks are due to happen in December. Let's you and me take a big bag of corn chips down there and watch. We might even be invited up on stage!
- jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years ago0
- jonnycomelatelyposted 12 years ago0
Such stellar intellect as this should be commended. By making such a simple statement, you have put a new spin on the childish cliché of "I know you are but what am I"
Absolutely brilliant!! Not everyone can do this.
If I could just touch the hem of your garment, maybe I could abdicate my my mind as well, and start hating this @$#%%#@ science too.
That evil science just sucks. Doesn"t it? Your numerous emoticans dictate such delusions of laughter and thoughts, or the lack thereof...
OooooH! You pushed a button there Melissa!
Pay no attention to his/her claims as they beckon for disagreement; a troll, if ya will...
Just by looking at the few, terribly written, illogical hubs that the above young fellow has written, and the fact that he's been here for 3 months, you will see that it is certainly not me who is the troll
Thank you very much, for the promotion! ...My traffic just jumped; thanks, hun...
One - You completely ignored the two points I asked you to address. No clue? I'll just assume that's the case as you blunder about anyway.
Two - You are pathetically attempting something which you are as ignorant of as you are bold. There are prophecies not even secularist scholars will deny because if they did they would look like fools, as I won't direct attention to anyone in particular, but readers may suppose.
Three - The Messiah was written and known about LONG before He ever appeared, and many of the fullfilments are so specific it is unquestionable, yet of course your 'everyone who writes on parchment with feathers even greek secular record keepers are liars' makes all of them what? Deemed erased from history by you?? Please step down from the horse and and give it back to the cowboy.... You don't 'deem' everyone a liar by personal opinion.
Four - If you UNDERSTOOD the texts which you are discussing you may have a minute fraction of insight regarding them, but you jump off the deep end denying things that brilliant minds have recognised and held as certainty for hundreds upon hundreds of years. And now you come along and the entire populace which proceeds you are delusional.. what a statement.. bravo there captain logic.
Finally - If anyone here that has ANY intelligence beyond that of the common housefly does honest research from the vast www, they will see the OBVIOUS predictions of the Bible, and I will also be posting a link soon on my profile to the numerical odds of said predictions as calculated repeatedly by brilliant mathematicians.
If you would like to either [1] address the points I spoke of now as to clear my assumption for lack of your attendance, or [2] continue with mindless denial of well established facts I will be glad to make a rather overwhelmingly hard to deny post to accompany your assertions. They are quite bothersome and I'm sure many hubbers here would like to see the facts of which I'm claiming. So, if you will?..
Well how sweet. A rescue attempt to save the bold stray.
Is your interjection an indicator of? what?
1-You would like more attention and hero status to boot.
2-He fights for your cause and was incapable of handling self by your view.
or
3-You seen an open post that needed a subject change and seen opportunity for personal pick advertising against wilmiers.
How bout it Winston?
Sometimes I wonder how they miss something larger than the universe..
And then they DEMAND He does what they want??
"prove this" "prove that"
Pharisees haven't gone anywhere it seems.. They just got worse.
Your second sentence said: "Even that is beginning to get under my skin and become a bore since I don't like to argue about apologetics, philosophy of religion, theology etc. I think that these disciplines are nothing more than a huge waste of time and unnecessary mental gymnastics."
Dang, I almost believed ya until I seen the titles on your highly debatable hubs! Ha! That was funny! You just like it elsewhere, as opposed to a public forum; gotcha! LOL!
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