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Is it really that hard to verify if someone really is female?

  1. kirstenblog profile image77
    kirstenblogposted 8 years ago

    Ok so there was a report on the lunch time news today that just boggled my mind. The story was about a woman runner who has won gold (I think) but now is being investigated to make sure she is a woman. They stated that this process will take several weeks to verify. Am I the only one that thinks this sounds totally nuts?

    1. jiberish profile image73
      jiberishposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, that runner looks like a man to me, but why will it take several weeks to verify? Either he's packing or not. Oh I forgot, they cut those things off these days. o)

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Or totally missing nuts.

    3. marinealways24 profile image61
      marinealways24posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Cup check?

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    Crazdwriterposted 8 years ago

    Nope I agree with you...that does sound totally nuts. and really weird at the same time.

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    badcompany99posted 8 years ago

    I do private verifications in just 5 minutes for only a small fee, I pay them 5 dollars lol smile

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    ryankettposted 8 years ago

    Surely you just have to have a quick look and grope down below big_smile

    I guess that they will do a genetic test, and then do a genetic re-test, and then come out and tell us that she is indeed completely female.... making us all feel slightly guilty for causing her a little distress.

    If you cut the hair off of serena and venus williams, and then banned them from using make-up, epilators and tweezers..... then they would look pretty manly too.

  5. Colebabie profile image58
    Colebabieposted 8 years ago

    Umm, the only sure way would be a genetic test. Not sure how long those results take. smile

    Or they could go with BadCo.

    1. profile image42
      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I deff give a positive result for sure and i have references smile

  6. Mrvoodoo profile image60
    Mrvoodooposted 8 years ago

    Assuming she's had the snip it might be harder than you think.

    lady or ladyboy?  Can you tell the difference?

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Lady-or-ladyboy … oys-katoey

    1. profile image42
      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh not just by a pic moi friend, tis a special BadCo test ya know !

      1. Mrvoodoo profile image60
        Mrvoodooposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        LOL, I'd ask, but I'm not sure I want to know what it is, would it leave me mentally scarred? big_smile

        1. profile image42
          badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Wise move moi friend plus I dont want banned smile

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      dennisemattposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      HA HA HA!!!!!!! I got two wrong...It would only take a couple seconds to check those boys out! I am guessing they are talking about a surgery thingy..but then, if he/she had surgery, he/she still won the race, as a girl NOW so what difference does the orignal sex make?

  7. Pearldiver profile image77
    Pearldiverposted 8 years ago

    Always thought it had something to do with the size of their hands. lol

    1. jiberish profile image73
      jiberishposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      And shoes, lol smile

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      ralwusposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Someone on here awhile back said it was the thumb size. LOL

      1. Amanda Severn profile image98
        Amanda Severnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I worked in a jewellers for a while. We had several regular customers who were transvestites. They were very smart and beautifully made up, but there were a couple of big tell-tale signs. Men's calf muscles seem higher up, and the muscles are either more defined or just stringy looking, their hands are typically bigger and squarer, and they always chose the rings with the largest stones!

  8. I*n*v*i*c*t*u*s profile image59
    I*n*v*i*c*t*u*sposted 8 years ago

    Can't you just tell by an Adam's Apple in their neck? smile

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      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Wise one thats the main one but there are loads of other tests ya know, BadCo would deff know within a period of 5 mins smile

  9. Kadmiels profile image56
    Kadmielsposted 8 years ago

    this is alot of unneeded emotional distress on this poor woman. just becuase she beat them by a couple of seconds. shes really fast and the othere woman become jealouse becuase they could not keep up.

    1. profile image42
      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not keeping up is a sign smile

      1. I*n*v*i*c*t*u*s profile image59
        I*n*v*i*c*t*u*sposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Is Multi-tasking a sign as well?? smile

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          badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Touche smile

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          \Brenda Scullyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          oh yes multi tasking if she multi tasks she is all woman

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      ryankettposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      We dont know if she is a woman or not yet.... I will retain my guilt and sympathy until we know for sure. If she isn't (and they have been caught before on several occassions!) then he would surely deserve what he gets?

      Better to find out now before as early as possible the next Olympics, then to find out after 'he' has stolen a gold medal from a genuine female.

      I will be sympathetic if it transpires that she really is she.

      What is it with South African athletics? First they gave us 'Blade Runner' and then they give us 'ManGirl Runner', Im looking forward to them giving us 'The Three Legged Runner'.

      1. Plants and Oils profile image86
        Plants and Oilsposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Why? If she is intersex, with female genitalia, brought up as a girl, the news that she is intersex might come as a horrific surprise to her, too.

        1. euro-pen profile image69
          euro-penposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          There was a famous Austrian skier in the female ski team of Austria in the 1970ies. She won quite regularily. She always felt something "different" according to her but didn't know why (she was a farmer's girl from a very backward rural area). Then she got disqualified as being no "real" women. After a while she made a sex-changing operation. You can imagine this caused quite some discussions back in the 1970is.

          1. Maddie Ruud profile image78
            Maddie Ruudposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            If she is intersex, what are they going to do?  Make her compete in the men's division?  No, they'll just exclude her entirely.  That's discrimination.  I'd sue.

        2. Whitney05 profile image84
          Whitney05posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Even if she is intersex, in most cases they will be more one than the other. The genes and mental psychology will say one thing even though the organs say another.

      2. Maddie Ruud profile image78
        Maddie Ruudposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        What is a "genuine female,"  really?  Gender/sex are not as cut-and-dry as most people might like to believe, not just psychologically, but in terms of genitalia and chromosomes as well.

        The whole thing makes me angry.

  10. HubChief profile image81
    HubChiefposted 8 years ago

    well the type and text of hubs definitely helps see writer's gender. Women are soft hearted in writing (some excpetions; however those who are hard choose a feminine profile). Only few men come here to pretend like a woman however they lack the style of a female. Easily identifiable.

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      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Dunno I have been told I get on like a big girl and when I was doubling as Cabin Girl i got loads of advances by email from really rude men, they are such beasts !

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    pgrundyposted 8 years ago

    Equipment can be changed surgically. Hormones can be changed too. A certain percentage of people are born both genders. So it's not as clear as you might expect.

    1. profile image42
      badcompany99posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I know that, if it was clear it wouldnt take me a full 5 minutes, wud only be 3 !

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        pgrundyposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        LOL!

        Here's a test:

        Ask her where she wants to eat lunch. If she says, "I don't care, where do you want to eat?" she's female. If she gives you an immediate answer that includes buffalo chicken wings, she's a guy.

  12. Plants and Oils profile image86
    Plants and Oilsposted 8 years ago

    Very unlikely that she's a man who has had surgery, etc.

    More possible that she's intersex, which does take a while to work out.

    Men are XY. Women are XX. There are a few people who are XXY, for example (among other similar conditions) who may look like women, but aren't quite.

    1. profile image0
      R.G. San Ramonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      this is so true. but if it's just about determining the sex, then it is not really difficult to have a check on the sex chromosomes. so why take weeks? perhaps the "committee" is not only interested about knowing the sex, but checking other possible cheating modes as well, i.e., taking drugs or hormones that significantly boost performance and put the other players at complete disadvantage. this latter issue is still complicated though.

  13. Mrvoodoo profile image60
    Mrvoodooposted 8 years ago

    http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss176/beatlesfan09/Tranny%20Party/DSCN2754.jpg

    Any guesses? big_smile

  14. Misha profile image75
    Mishaposted 8 years ago

    You? wink

    1. Mrvoodoo profile image60
      Mrvoodooposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol, I wish I looked that good. wink

      http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/MrVoodoo123/grebenschikov_1_s.jpg

      You?

      1. Misha profile image75
        Mishaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        LOL I'd be honored. smile Actually I love this pic of mine cause it resembles him a bit. How did you guess though? You must be Russian. smile

        1. Mrvoodoo profile image60
          Mrvoodooposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Haha, nope not Russian, it's the voodoo powers my friend, the voodoo powers. big_smile

  15. Davinagirl3 profile image59
    Davinagirl3posted 8 years ago

    All they need is a blood test.  It shouldn't take longer than a day.  I am not totally sure, but if it is that important they could put a rush on it.

  16. Whitney05 profile image84
    Whitney05posted 8 years ago

    DNA testing would determine if it's female. Sometimes it is hard to tell. Outside one may look one gender, but internally be another. It's sometimes that simple. Sometimes, it's harder than that. Like Maddie said, it's chromosomes and genetalia.

  17. Lgali profile image57
    Lgaliposted 8 years ago

    HERE IS test to know
    A man will pay $2 for a $1 item he needs.

    A woman will pay $1 for a $2 item that she doesn't need.

    1. profile image0
      mtsi1098posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I like it...

    2. profile image0
      ralwusposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Aand you should know Lgali. LOL

    3. profile image0
      dennisemattposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      HAHAHAAHAHAH men dont go shopping!!!  lol

  18. Flightkeeper profile image71
    Flightkeeperposted 8 years ago

    I'm wondering what the regulators will do if they do find she is a she but with a lot of he.  Can they exclude her?  Is the definition of men and women made up in percentages and who makes that decision?

    I've seen her picture.  Her muscles are very defined but her face is rounded not angular

  19. profile image0
    mtsi1098posted 8 years ago

    have i been out of school that long that someone cannot tell man vs. woman - maybe Crazdwriter can help (a teacher)

  20. BristolBoy profile image73
    BristolBoyposted 8 years ago

    It isn't as simple as just checking down below, or even the genes.  The BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation) quaoted the IAAF (International Association of Athletics Federations) as saying a whole group of doctors will be required to check including (and I quote):

    "endocrinologist, a gynaecologist, an internal medicine expert, an expert on gender and a psychologist"

    As such it appears that there is likely to be soem confusion.  Also I once watched a program on TV.  It said that a much larger proportion of people than you would think are mixed sex in some way, and many of the people who are won't even realise.  For some reason I think the average quoted number for the global average was above 10%, but as with many things it depends on race/customs etc (something to do with being linked to environment etc).

  21. AsherKade profile image59
    AsherKadeposted 8 years ago

    she look-a like-a man to me, but in my profession we see so many girl-guys and guy-dolls. I saw one today! Genetics is the only way to go...unless you have to frisk them for contraband and there's no roadside genetics test, then you are screwed and have to get both genders to do a body search. Sucks...especially if there's dick in wrong places...

  22. earnestshub profile image90
    earnestshubposted 8 years ago

    I believe her friends and family would know. I hate that this story first appeared in my country. It is outrageous to put this in print.

  23. sunforged profile image77
    sunforgedposted 8 years ago

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2 … enya_.html

    she is indeed both..no womb or ovaries

    1. Valerie F profile image60
      Valerie Fposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It seems she's handling the news pretty well so far. I just hope they let her keep her medal. It's not as if any of this is her fault.

 
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