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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
I decided to join Bubblews a month ago. I didn’t want to put too much effort into it because a lot of people were grumbling about not getting paid. So I wrote approximately 1 post a day and resolved to stop once I hit $25 to see if they would pay. All the photos were accredited properly, nothing was plagiarised, I didn’t use pornography, I didn’t cheat the system blah, blah, blah.
So I hit redeem on Monday and I have not received any confirmation of payment. I’m not feeling resentful, angry or sorry for myself because I went in knowing this could happen. Indeed, I had a lot of fun writing there and I got to write about really wacky and fun topics. In my opinion the best part of B is the comments section. There are some hilarious back and forths and miniature wars going on.
But I have to admit I was spending hours on the site. Hours! A lot of people talked about how easy it is - just post and like and comment. All that stuff takes time if you want your connections to continue reading your stuff. That time could probably be spent doing something more worthwhile.
So, I think the trial period is over for me. I have decided if nothing happens by Monday evening I will delete my account. The month wasn’t wasted there because now I have a lot of content I can use elsewhere even if I didn’t get paid for it on Bubblews.
What I want to know is how long it takes Google to empty its cache. I couldn’t figure out how to add Bubblews to Google Webmaster to delete the URLs. Any information?
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  IslandBitesposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I can't help you with the Google info.
  The same thing happened to me with my first redemption. Never got the payment and I did not received any communication from them. I was ready to leave the site. But I already had more than $10, so I decided to try a second time. I received an email from PayPal in less than 72 hours after I hit redeem. Maybe you should try again?
  
  Anyway, I hate how disorganized is the page.
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  Danette Wattposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I agree the site is terrible to maneuver around - very untidy!
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  Alea Dinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's your opinion.
  I think their web design is fantastic, but more importantly, they will pay.
  
  You break one rule, and they will not pay. That's how Bubblews goes. There's nothing wrong with that - live with it and deal with it, that's life.
  
  By Alea Din (Dr Lin)
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Your names at the top.
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  Alea Dinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Bubblews pays many of my friends i write with, they are a top notch company - i see this from the bottom of my heart.
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  Thomas Swanposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Check out Alea Din's profile. Go to "My Activity" and take a look. Then ask why bubblews needs to pay people to go around the web telling people this rubbish. It's not just on hubpages either. When I was researching bubblews I found this guy's name popping up all over the web.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yup, he's a shill for Bubblews, no doubt.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Did you ever get your cheque?
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Pfft. Of course not.
  
  ...and now we wait for Bubblews shill to tell me "You must not have followed the rules"... so I can e-slap him....
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hee hee! I don't condone violence, but an e-slap sounds like good entertainment.
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  FYI Once you post on Bubblews, the article belongs to them because they have paid you for it. Also, good luck finding it if you simply want to delete. Did you check to see that every article was long enough? You do know that you need to have at least 400 characters and if you are even one short on any article you will not be paid for any articles in your bunch. Also, if you click exactly at $25 to redeem, they TELL you the number you see may not be correct, and that number turns out to be $24.99 you will not get paid. I have been there since July 31, have made around $350 and have had zero problems with redemptions. However, I make sure I'm doing it the right way. Either you're jumping the gun here, or you've messed something up.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  If you go to your profile screen, right under your pic you will see a link for "view user archives" and that lists all your posts
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes it does, but they are in no particular order and when you have hundreds of them, finding one specific post is extremely difficult. This is why I copy and save every post and also list them by topic. It's the only way I know of remembering what I've already written so I do not duplicate!
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's a good idea. I should probably do it also. So far I have less than a 100 posts, but I can see it getting cumbersome after awhile.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So the posts we write belong to them? Where do we find this information? TOS?
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I had problems when they only paid 2 out of 5 redemptions and would not answer emails. I spat the dummy, copied all my 200 posts and then deleted each one manually on their site. The bank showed -$55 (minus). I requested my account be deleted via email which was eventually done after about 2 weeks (5 emails). I then submitted a 'removal content from someone else's site' for all my little lovelies with Google(see link below) - 48 hours later they were no longer indexed, but they still appear in the SERPS (cache). Anyway you can then post them elsewhere with no problems.
  See
  https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/1663688
  
  PS
  This is the latest post on the support 2 'wall' - Regarding Redemptions
  
  "Please don't be offended if I am clearing my wall of queries. I am having difficulties responding those that need response if my wall is flooded. We are doing our best to check as many accounts as we can each day. We hope for your understanding and patience. Thank you to all the members who genuinely support the Bubblews movement."
  
  They have virtually admitted that they can't keep up. Sadly non-payment may be related to this lack of resources rather than breaking the rules. Sad state of affairs if you are a victim of this (my payments suddenly stopped for no reason, I did not change anything). You don't get paid because they don't have the resources to process the claims!!! Not Good! It makes a mockery of their claims to be changing the world - Sniffs of a Ponzi.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The content belong to them?
  Nope, all my posts were way longer than 400 characters and I redeemed at about $2.70. I probably am jumping the gun here, but the amount of time I spend there is an issue to me.
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  Nimesh De Silvaposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you do know that redemption is only possible after you reach $25.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, sometimes the number five on my keyboard doesn't work!
  It was $25.70
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No payout still?
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, legally the content belongs to them. They paid you for them, didn't they?
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Where does it say that they own the content? They're not paying us for the articles anymore than HubPages does. We still own our articles at HubPages, and they pay us for views, too.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I tried looking up that information yesterday and I honestly could not find anything that suggests they "own" your content. I'm inclined to believe that is not the case for the exact reason you just pointed out. I don't know for sure, but I am certainly interested to know.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, I'm really curious now, ChristinS. I wouldn't think they would own our content, but I would like a definitive answer. They're hard to get answers from, but I might try contacting someone on staff.
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  Thelma Albertsposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I would like to know that too, Victoria.
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  2uesdayposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Section 5 on the Terms of Use (foot of pages) might be the relevant section, but the complete Terms of Use is a complex read.
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  younghopesposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I had more of a bad bubblews experience. I received only my first redemption there and my three more redemptions were not given. Since i got my first so i followed the same pattern of writing and promotion and did nothing against the rules too. I kept mailing them many times but till now i have not heard from them anything. I had stopped being on the site just after they didnt paid my second redemption and the rest of the money just kept on coming from page views so i redeemed. I wrote some really useful posts there and spent lots of time too,. It hurts me so much whenever i think about the time, energy i spent there. It has been a rather pretty bad experience
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  NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You're really jumping the gun on that one. I've been paid out every time. It takes them a little longer to contact you after you redeem sometimes. Though these days they usually contact me within 3 to 4 days. If I remember correctly, the first time took a little longer. They will contact you and you'll get paid. You have to remember they're still short on staff and do some things manually still, and they're new. They'll be upgraded to have automated payments soon, so even more reason to stay there.
  
  On the other question, I don't think there's any way that I know of to de-index those posts. It's not like the sub-domain situation here at HP or like if you owned a site. Webmaster Tools only let's you de-index if you own the site; HP subdomain is like your own site.
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The G tool I mentioned above allows you to remove the url from the index once the page has been deleted on the foreign site. It no longer appears in the SERPS, but copyscape still picks it up (cache?).
  Hope Springs Eternal especially for those who get paid. (Ponzi Like)
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  NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Really don't know why you addressed me at all in this matter, I made no reference to you. If you're angry with Bubblews, address them not me. I deleted my articles from Zujava because they never reviewed my articles and I got tired of waiting; but I don't make snide remarks to people who are successful on Zujava; because, frankly, it doesn't matter to me either way. Strangely, you defend your supposed action with de-indexing, though I never referenced that. It doesn't even make sense to me that you could do that though, so now that you addressed me, I'll address that fact. Google says they'll remove content from a site that's not yours for legal reasons or to remove personal information; which is referenced in the link you provided. However, you claim you deleted the content then de-indexed it; which is not even related to the material in the link you provided. I have never heard, it doesn't seem logical, that anyone could de-index content on a site that doesn't belong to them. In fact, that is unethical. Many webmasters would be destroyed on the Net if that were possible. The exceptions are HP and Blogger where we have subdomains. As differentiated from, say, Bubblews and Squidoo.
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  see the bottom of the page in the link to this link
  
  "use this tool to request Google not to show the outdated content from the page."
  
  you get to a new page
  
  "Use this page to request removal of a page or site from Google's search results. (Not all requests are successful. Here's why.)"
  You can enter the URLs
  
  Note: This only applies to pages that have been deleted on the foreign host page
  
  It worked for me.
  Cheers,
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So it can be deleted from webmaster then?
  I just assumed I couldn't because I didn't have to set it up like HP subdomain.
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  janderson99posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Just follow the link - you don't need access via webmasters - it only applies to pages that have been deleted by the host. So if you delete a bubblews post you can follow the link and stop the page appearing in the SERPS.
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  forbcrinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There are so many issues raised here, I don't even know where to start with my penny's worth of thoughts...
  
  First of all, I think that the most important issue is the ownership of the material:
  
  Unless the author gives up the rights to the material, the author is always the copyrights holder of that material. BB does not have any rights to your material. They may publish it on their site, but this is as far as they can go. It is true that they pay you for the material, however the payment is for the fact that one publishes it on their site, and they make money from the article.
  
  The only forum that is trying to get over your material, so far is Facebook. In their numerous rewritten contracts, they let you know that once you publish the material on their site, they can do whatever they want to do with it, including generating revenue, that they are not going to share with you. I am not sure that they expressly say that they get the rights to your material, but you let them do whatever they want with it.
  
  Of course they were not taken to court yet, and I doubt that anyone has the money to do it, however I am not sure that their attitude will stand in court. Just because they were not challenged legally, they can say and they can do whatever they want. Once can take them to court also, however with the armies of lawyers they have, they will probably bankrupt the "maverick" before the first hearing. They can write motions...
  
  As far as BB goes. I have been there for a few months and I never had problems with being paid. I like to be paid, however I am not there for the money, let's be serious, that is not money, proportionate to the amount of time one needs to write the piece. I would say it's more prostitution than money-making. However, the interaction and the discussion with people from around the world is priceless.
  They pay based on revenue generated. If your pieces get a lot of sponsors they pay, and you get paid. Just the simple fact that one posts the minimum does not mean that an automatic pay will come.
  I cashed out a few days ago, and I did not post anything, yet residual income from my participation, vies and comments from others made about two bucks over nights.
  Those who expect everyone else to read their posting, without spending the time to read others postings, may be in for a surprise.
  The purpose of BB is to generate discussion and to involve people
  
  I see that you have a short tolerance Multiface, however, maybe BB may not be for you. I participate on a few forums, and I can't say that they all generate revenue. For instance Hub Page did not make me a dime since the beginning, although it was a time when I was posting tons.
  Yet, the pleasure of having the pieces published, and even featured, is priceless...
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  eugbugposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  As regards Facebook taking over material, be wary also of publishing on WikiHow. They don't actually pay you for writing and the only benefit is probably a link back to HubPages or other blog/website. Once you publish, you can't delete an article. Technically you retain copyright but this isn't much benefit because basically they can do what they want with your article. As they say in their TOS: "You continue to own the copyrights of the content you submit to wikiHow. That said, by posting your content on wikiHow you give us multiple rights to use and change it"
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  DonnaCSmithposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I got three payments and the 4th after three weeks of no response I deleted all but the ones that were about my wirting, books, etc. I am in the minus but slowly that figure is reducing. The posts have a delete button so I deleted.
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  2uesdayposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I cannot understand why deleting causes a minus. If they have been paid for the ads. that were showing at the time you were allocated the payment.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Mmhh... I don't know. It's the amount of time I spend on the site that makes me question its worth.
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ChristinSposted 11 years ago
You might want to be a little more patient. My last redemption was delayed a bit but I received it. If you delete your account you surely wont' get it.

Also, depending on what you post, you could still earn residual pennies from search engine and social media traffic.

The one thing I know that can get you not paid aside from the obvious is over sharing socially. You're only allowed to share each bubble once per network, so you can't like tweet your bubbles out multiple times for example. Is there a chance you might have over shared, even inadvertently?
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I try not to spend too much time there. I've gotten residual income, sometimes a few dollars a day without posting, so that's nice. :-) I've had six redemptions go smoothly, just hit #7.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sometimes that happens for me too. Yesterday the first post I made I shared once on Pinterest and I made over $11.00 yesterday since that one seems to have went semi-viral. That was very cool! I hope it doesn't cause me a problem though when I go for my next redemption because that is a lot of money for one post. Well, 8.75 or something was that post out of the 11, but still...
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Wow, that's cool. Surely you won't be penalized because of that!
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I wasn't aware you could share your own posts like that. I thought those buttons were for other people to share them. You are right, you may have a problem over this. I'd like to know how it works out for you.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  According to the TOS, and what I've heard also from other posters, you are allowed to share your own posts 1 time on each network. I do one tweet, one pin, one FB post and usually not all of them. I prefer pinterest and I don't do that either every time unless it is an article I feel will do well there. My personal posts I never socially share. I've had no problem getting payments yet and I've done this the entire time.
  
  Where people get in trouble is if they tweet their own post mulitiple times - things like that. Once and once only
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  Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You get paid one cent for each share you do. Sharing is encouraged, but over sharing is abusing the system.
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
Currently unable to access the B site, "Website is offline".

I'm starting to get a little nervous about my latest redemption as well. My first 2 were no problem. But I've seen other posts where the 3rd one is usually doomed for some reason.
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  viryaboposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Got my first 3 without a hitch. Clicked my fourth yesterday.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
No, I only shared 1 of my posts and 1 of another writer.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Good luck trying to close your account. The only way to do it is to email the staff and my request to close the acct. was never acknowledged. I finally deleted the essays I had posted.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
&paradigmsearch Maybe the staff are annoyed there's no sequel to the Armadillo post?
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Beth37 Have you been fighting crime again?
Yeah, I remember you writing about that in the forum. I plan to just delete my posts.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  At every turn.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Quick! Behind you!
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Bam!
  Pow!
  Whap!
  
  Thanks muttface!
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That was a squirrel.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I know, I feel kinda bad... fur flying everywhere...
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  How big was the squirrel? I'm thinking slippers or a teddy bear.
  
  Beth - Did you use your posts elsewhere after leaving Bubblews?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, I took them off of here and posted them there. Then I deleted them there and now they are just floating in cyberspace. I didn't reach payout... I wasn't due anything. I just wanted to try something new.
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Nimesh De Silvaposted 11 years ago
First payment got delayed. It took about 6-7 days to appear in my Paypal account. And there was NO confirmation of any sort of the redemption. The second redemption worked out just as perfectly-no issues. I'd advice you to go back and take a look at your Paypal in 2-3 days.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
@Nimesh De Silva Thanks for your suggestion. If it comes - good, if it doesn't - I won't feel too bad because I've only spent a month at it.
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WriteAngledposted 11 years ago
I got my first payment in about 24 hours. Haven't reached another one yet, because over the last month I've been there 0-15 minutes per day due to other commitments and being away. Nevertheless, even with that minimal input I'm up to over $10 dollars, i.e. about 5 months' worth of HP earnings. I do know a number of other people using the site. Most of them are cashing out like clockwork every couple of days or so, with no problems. The consensus among these people, though, is that there are some rules, which have not been fully clarified and violation of which will potentially have a negative impact on your status. Repeated use of the share buttons, too many external links and too much focus on Bubblews itself seem to be among these.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
I just hit the Bubblews payout level earlier this week for the first time... and since I clicked the "send me a check" option rather than any electronic payment options, I actually got an e-mail from the moderator team asking if that was correct, or if I would rather receive my payment via PayPal. I 'splained that yes it was correct, because I don't have a PayPal account or do any electronic banking. I haven't heard back from them since then so they're probably still amazed and going "Holy sh*t, no PayPal account? This guy must be a caveman!"

I will be as surprised as anybody if a check actually shows up in the mail anytime soon.
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
Hark!!! "You have just been sent a payment..."

Well, this now makes 3 redemptions in a row where I have had no problems.

Why am I so lucky? My guesses are...

I never post pics. Theory being to avoid attribution misunderstandings.

I never post links. Theory being to avoid affiliation misunderstandings.

I never click the redeem button on a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or Monday. Theory being that staff is probably at their best performance levels Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays.
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Mark Ewbieposted 11 years ago
Since I mentioned I was a friend of Will Apse they have started paying me double.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol
  
  Have you two made up now? I haven't slept in weeks.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I actually like WIll, always have. He can be a curmudgeonly old so-and-so, and he does wind me up, and he is wrong about a lot of things - but there is something about him.
  
  Well that's enough praise.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You gotta love someone with winding abilities.
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  Rochelle Frankposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I had to read that a couple of times... I thought you liked WW II.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol.
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  NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol. Mark's a history buff.
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  PegCole17posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hahh! I thought it was just me. Hunh?
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Nell Roseposted 11 years ago
I wouldn't worry, it does take four or five days to get the message in your email, sometimes it takes longer, but it usually gets there in the end.
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LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago
Just put in 13th redemption and no issues. Sometimes the email notification is delayed by a day or so, but not often.
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sallybeaposted 11 years ago
Think you should wait a couple of days - sometimes it takes a little longer.
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bensen32posted 11 years ago
Wow, I been thinking about checking B out but after reading all this not sure it is worth my time to even check it out.
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thom w conroyposted 11 years ago
Followed all of the rules to the letter, got paid once and earned enough for several more payments after that but never got a cent. Support would not answer my emails at all. Bubblews is a total scam, waste of time - another content site making big promises and then cheating content writers out of earnings. BIG CON JOB!!!! WARNING WILL ROBINSON -STAY AWAY!!! DANGER!!!!DANGER!!! (You'd have to be over 50 to get this refernce).
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree. I have received eleven redemptions with no problem whatsoever, number 12 is on the way to the bank and I already have enough banked to redeem again. I have had virtually no problems and when the latest payment comes in I will have earned $365 since July 31. I spend about 3 hours per day on the site and really enjoy getting to know the other writers, many of whom are hubbers, and their work.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I agree - I have not had a problem other than a delay once and there would not be so many people there writing and earning still if it was a scam.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My redemptions--7--have all been smooth so far. Just gotta make sure you're not inadvertently breaking a rule, and, if you haven't, they say to contact them and be patient.
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  Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree I am not yet 50 and I get that reference - robot...
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  Diana Grantposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm over 50 and I didn't get it - clearly I'm not nerdy enough
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paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago
I just stumbled across this. Might be relevant for some.

"BubblewsSupport2 - Cancelled e-Checks Update", http://www.bubblews.com/news/1272024-bu … cks-update
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janderson99posted 11 years ago
In my opinion this says it all really.

"We are doing our best to check as many accounts as we can each day. We hope for your understanding and patience." --- From the redemption team (Oct 2013).

You can interpret this in several ways:
=> They don't have the resources to process all the claims - some miss out, especially new bubblers
=> Their system and processes are incompetent and can't cope. The email query system is clearly overwhelmed.
=> Their system has glitches and so some claims get lost, every now and then
=> It is a Ponzi scheme with a policy of only paying 50% of claims, or so. The fact that they keep the funds generated by those who break the rules, and randomly dropped claims, exemplifies this.
=> If you get paid, it is more likely they will keep paying you
=> Randomly, some who get paid, suddenly stop being paid
=> If you get paid regularly, and then payments stop, it is unlikely payments will resume
=> There is some evidence that you can drop an offending account and start a new one, but you need to inform them first and wait for the old one to be deleted first (only they can do it). There is no guarantee this will work
=> The interpretation of the rules is a 'changing feast'. There are some things that you can't control related to 'bad company' connections, 'click farm' associations. etc. So it is hard to know when and why one of the rules may have been broken and this may have been the cause of non-payment.
IMO from reading stuff on the support2 wall, personal experience, G, etc.
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  articlemachineposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I tried teckler but it seemed to be overrun with homosexuals.
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  NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lol
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  Alison Grahamposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know whether to laugh or cry that you have just posted your affiliate link here!
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  If you had reported it, it would be gone.
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  Alison Grahamposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think it is my role to act as 'policeman' I believe that there should be forum moderators to deal with posts that are inappropriate. Perhaps I should refrain from making further comments unless I have a meaningful contribution to make and not express my personal opinion here.
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I replied to it first. It never occurred to me. Not the most important thing in the world as far as I can see.
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  NateB11posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It's rather telling that they did that. Spam is not allowed on Bubblews. Lulz!
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ChristinSposted 11 years ago
and here I thought the failures of society were spammers - my bad.
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2uesdayposted 11 years ago
Unless of course someone quotes it in their reply
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Then there is nothing to be done...
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mary615posted 11 years ago
I just want to jump in here with my comment: I love Bubblews! I can write very freely and about subjects I like to write about without the fear of the article being "too personal, etc." My dogs, my family, etc.
I see so many of my Hubber friends there. I think it is amusing that some very successful Hubbers seem to be a little embarrassed about writing there. They go by user names that you would never recognize. But they are there and they add a lot of "class" to the site by writing good interesting articles.
I have not had any problems being paid (so far).
Keep in mind, from the time you hit the redeem button until you get notified you are being paid can take several days. It is NOT instant, so just be patient; it will come.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I lost interest in it b/c after I'd posted 5 essays, it wouldn't take anymore. No explanation, nothing. I felt like I was doing something wrong, but I had posted 5 successfully (not all in one day) so why all of a sudden did they not "take"? And there was no one to ask... stymied.
  
  And then I felt a bit overwhelmed. There were tons of notifications... hundreds. Which ones was I supposed to respond to? What was necessary? Was anyone really reading anything or was everyone just throwing out comments in order to receive comments in order to get paid? (Not that that isn't a possibility here too, but there is was compounded.)
  
  It just felt very convoluted to me. I wish I'd of had an experience more like yours.
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  mary615posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't understand what you mean by "not taking". Their system of notifications could be a little better. We are even notified when someone comments on our comment. A little much, I think. HP has a better way of informing us when we have comments.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Was the "not taking" during a particular day when the site was having problems? Otherwise, that doesn't make sense. I don't look at the notifications much anymore. If I do, I might hit a few posts of people I haven't read in a while. Otherwise, I post one per day, answer comments, read a few of those people's posts, maybe a few more or less. I check my profile for possible connections, but I'm even way behind on that. I don't worry about it anymore. They need a better system, but it's still fun and a quick way to make some money, with some residual too (if ya don't spend too much time there!) Of course the same is true with HubPages about spending too much time and making very little. :-)
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  Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They went through a big update a month+ ago and things did not work properly for a while.
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  mary615posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I have noticed their site does not "go down" like it did before. They really are improving in many ways.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's true. They made some updates, I know. I hope they continue to improve the site.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Things ppl consider a plus concerning a site: It doesn't "go down."
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  Mark Ewbieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I agree Mary. Instead of posting pics on Facebook and hoping to get a Like or a Comment - I can put them on Bubblews and get more response, more fun comments and interaction AND make some dollars.
  
  As for forum posting, apart from, er, this one obviously - why bother? A two hundred word 'thought' earns a dollar upwards and quite honestly - gets far more response than on these forums.
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  Victoria Lynnposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ditto, mary615 and Mark Ewbie. Well said, both of you.
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Imogen Frenchposted 11 years ago
I have done a couple of months there, posting an average of one 10 minute post a day. I have just had confirmation that I am to be paid my first redemption, though it hasn't hit my account yet. I think it's an OK place to write, so long as you don't take yourself too seriously. It is full of spam and throwaway posts, but there are a few gems amongst it all if you can be bothered to look. It doesn't have the quality or depth of hubpages of course, but it is a bit of fun, and can earn you a few more pennies.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  What a great name you have.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Who me? Thanks.
  I got paid by the way, yippee! Now I can afford to replace the number five on my keyboard.
  It really is a fun site but I still don't know if it is worth me spending so many hours there. I think this week I will devote all the time I'd normally spend on Bubblews trying to learn something thrilling like HTML instead.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's my thoughts exactly. I can see the attraction of Bubblews as a fun way to take a break - but let's face it people, if you're work is mainly online, shouldn't you be getting up and spending your breaks away from the computer, not on it? Haven't you been reading all the publicity about how sitting at a PC all day kills you?
  
  I know it's nice to see the money mount up quickly for a change, but it's also very easy to underestimate how many hours you're spending on Bubblews to earn it. Even someone like Lissie, who's usually fairly disciplined, reckons she's earning about $1 an hour there. That is not worth getting deep vein thrombosis for, people!
  
  Of course, I could apply the same logic to the amount of time I used to spend on these forums (for which I earned nothing). But I am trying to learn my lesson!
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I always jiggle my legs when I'm on the computer. Take that Deep Vein Thrombosis!
  But I read your post, Marissa, advising people to go meet family or friends instead of spending all their free time on the site. I work in the evenings, so all of my mornings were spent on it and a part of the afternoon (I'm a slow writer). Then I'd come back at night to see who had left a comment. I certainly don't do this on FB.
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Ritesh Nisharposted 11 years ago
If you got paid then its great but I don't think they will pay you every time as I have seen people getting paid for their initial redemption but not for the later ones. They might just stop it whenever they want so till then you can continue with them. Once they stop payments for you, you can move your content to a different platform.
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  TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry I have been paid every single time and after my next redemption I will have topped $400. Furthermore, I resent having people on HP assume that every Bubblews writer is producing garbage. Many of us also write for HP as well. Yes, there are a lot of young people on there writing about nothing, but they are fewer and fewer and short, quality posts are increasing. My writing there is what allows me to be able to continue writing here and on my blog, so I wouldn't knock Bubblews too much. It has its place.
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Diana Grantposted 11 years ago
I stopped using Bubblews because I couldn't stand receiving so many notifications about nothing in particular. It ought to be redesigned so that you have more choice what you receive. I have never reached my first payment, so might just return to see if I can earn a bit.

Fingies crossed.
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  mary615posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They say they will improve their way of notifications soon. I agree about that.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
There might be a nice surprise for you!
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Will Apseposted 11 years ago
I have changed my mind about Bubblers. It seems a wonderful place for people with nothing to say and plenty of time to say it.

It is nice to know that if I ever have a stroke, there will be somewhere that I can continue to write.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol... scathing. Do you go to sleep with prickers in your pants?
  
  (Im including a photo of a pricker lest the translation be convoluted.)
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm afraid the Bubblers are so sunk in writerly degradation no level of scathing will reach them.
  
  As to what I keep in my pants...
  
  Even if I squint up my eyes, none of them look like the item in your photo.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ill bite my tongue.
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  Solarasposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you both lol!
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  *Said with best Eliza Doolittle accent*
  Im a good girl I am!
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  Alison Grahamposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You obviously set out to be provocative, Will - and I really should not rise to the bait. However, I just wanted to say that I sincerely hope that you never suffer a stroke - it is a terrible thing to happen to anyone and not something that anyone should be flippant about. Also, you obviously do not see the irony of your words as you seem to be suggesting that Bubblews is to Bubblers what Hubpages forums are to certain Hubbers! Please feel free to be as scathing as you like with your response, I will not rise to the bait a second time!
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Alison, I completely agree having had family members suffer greatly after such events. It's pathetic that some people have to use other people's suffering to be provacative, but it's what some members around here do routinely - thinking they are witty. Don't let it get you down. Most of us know and understand that it isnt' something to be mocked.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I will do a deal with you. If you never mention Bubblers again, I will never Bubblers again.
  
  I would pay 25 dollars myself if I was guaranteed to be spared the endless discussions of will they, won't they pay.
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  Alison Grahamposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Really it would be much more simple (and cheaper) for you to absent yourself from forum threads about Bubblews if you do not wish to read (hear) about Bubblews or Bubblers - although of course, that can never be 100% guaranteed!
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
...or if you're shilling Indian love spell casting, illegal internet streams of international soccer matches, etc.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Are you saying Bubblers is only one step down from the Silk Road?
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm just sayin' that whenever I log onto Bubblews, the front page is full of posts about one or the other. If they don't start exercising some kind of quality control over there real quick the whole damn site is gonna go down the poop chute.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They certainly need to keep it congenial for core users. Which means plenty of comfy chairs and Filipino nurses with ever ready dribble bowls.
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BigBrainsposted 11 years ago
Well, I had a go on Bubblews and hit the redeem button yesterday. Gonna see what happens. It seems like they have lots of petty rules and these are interpreted by humans rather than automated. They don't make it easy for you. I hope I get paid, but I'll have to wait and see..
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's where I'm at... reached the payout level, hit "redeem" and now I'm playing the waiting game. If they cough up, then I guess I'll keep posting there. If not, then I'm done.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
I wish they would. The "notifications" system is ridiculous over there.

The one that particularly annoys me is "so-and-so commented on your comment," which should really read "so-and-so commented on the same post you commented on."

I learned within the first day or two to ignore pretty much everything except notifications of comments on my own posts.
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Healthyannieposted 11 years ago
I think that Bubblews is easy to knock but there is a place for everyone in this world. It is not all rubbish, and some stuff on there is actually quite good. If you have a lot of followers you can build up cash quickly. I ended up writing on Bubblews after a naughty person on Bubblews "borrowed" my user name and some of my hubs. Things were quickly resolved, and I have done pretty well on Bubblews.
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Will Apseposted 11 years ago
Nah. Gotta watch the whole grim, sad, but occasionally hilarious farce through to the end. Now, that it has been forced on me.
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ChristinSposted 11 years ago
Nobody has forced you to follow these threads Will - you're not a victim, click away. Many threads on these forums don't interest me - the solutions is easy - don't view them.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You certainly know how to employ the power of boredom.
  
  And you have succeeded.
  
  I will not comment again in this thread unless someone says something interesting (unlikely) or I get even more bored by the other threads.
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  ChristinSposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You employ a great many "powers" yourself - I'd rather be boring than mean-spirited and rude.
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Mark Ewbieposted 11 years ago
I was going to post here and decided to Bubble it instead. A dollar richer and more likely to get an intelligent response.
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  Healthyannieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That is what I call emotional intelligence. Good for you Mark!
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
Now I feel bad. I once made a remark on FB about wishing I could go into a coma, having to endure a terrible time in my life. The thought of someone having suffered a real life coma never crossed my mind... sure enough a lady had lived thru one and she was plenty bent out of shape over my off handed comment. I made a joke about being so upset here once that I was "ready to take my own life"... again... a mindless joke. They banned me for a few days. It is hard having an off sense of humor. For instance, it would never even occur to me to make a racial joke or a joke about a disability... (for instance, I hate it when I hear someone say, "That's retarded.") But a joke at my own expense.. or someone with a similar sense of humor or say.. a troll... I practically have to glue my mouth shut. All that to say... bearing with one another and our differences... sarcastic, sensitive, angry, unforgiving, b*tchy, frank, unmotivated etc. that's just a part of being a community and when you learn to love the crazy in your neighbor, life is not only tolerable, it's enjoyable.

And that ends my psa. I apologize for the length.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  We will all end up dead, Beth. For many of us, it will be after horrible illnesses like strokes, dementia, cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc.
  
  Most people are so scared of this stuff, they cannot bear to hear it mentioned. But treading in terrified silence around these illnesses will not make a single one go away.
  
  On a personal note: I'm fairly sure I will get a stroke. Most of my family have managed to get one. It is in the genes. Does this inspire fear? A little. Am I going to pretend these things don't happen? Hardly.
  
  Bottom line: you cannot let timid, unimaginative individuals police the world down to bland nothingness and leave only platitudes and euphemism.
  
  Even more importantly, don't be suckered by control freaks into being a non-entity.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That's actually very profound.
  
  If it helps, I will come to your funeral if you will pay for my ticket.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I will probably be cremated, so I am sure a part of me will make its way to Tennessee.
  
  You will run your finger across the top of a picture frame in twenty years time and come up with some little memento mori.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  On the day of your death, I shall cover myself in honey and stand outside with my arms out, the moment the wind blows.
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  That is a wonderful sentiment!
  
  Also, now I am scared.
  
  Lol.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I will be fully clothed... no need to be frightened.
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Beth37posted 11 years ago
I don't like it when we fight. I need a hug.
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  paradigmsearchposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol... I'll take it.
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Diana Grantposted 11 years ago
This thread is beginning to look more and more like Bubblews every day
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  Will Apseposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, we are all bored out of our minds but thinking 25 dollars is riches.
  
  No, that isn't quite right...
  
  Maybe we are all people who blurt out the first thing that comes into our heads without troubling to see what anyone else has said.
  
  That isn't quite right either...
  
  Is it all about cognitive degeneration?
  
  Maybe not.
  
  Perhaps its all about not knowing what to think about anything whatsoever.
  
  Doubtful.
  
  Maybe I should just agree with Diane. Everything is the same as everything else.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
Well, I have been trying to keep an open mind about Bubblews but it is starting to get that ripoff smell to me.

I reached payout level two weeks ago and hit the "redeem" button. I chose the "send me a check" option (which may have been my first mistake).

The next day I got an e-mail from someone at the site asking if I was sure I wanted to be paid by check, and whether or not I had a PayPal account. I replied that I do not have a PayPal account. (Yeah, I know... I'm a dinosaur.)

They have maintained total radio silence since then. Not a peep. I sent another response to that e-mail yesterday asking (nicely) if there were any progress updates.

We shall see if I hear back from them or not.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You're 'bout to get a nasty post from Mr Apse.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ?? What'd I do?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol. Haven't you been reading his posts? He has an unnatural hatred for all things Bubblews, but especially the reports of non payout.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Well, If I end up getting screwed by Bubblews, I will hate them just as much as he apparently does.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They could set your house on fire and I don't believe you could hate them as much as he does.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
You underestimate me. I had earmarked those Bubblews earnings for the new Black Sabbath and Megadeth CDs, or some imported beer (I hadn't decided which quite yet).

If I am indeed being robbed of my beer and/or Metal then I'm going to get angry. And as a certain Banner fella on TV used to say, "they wouldn't like me when I'm angry."
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  *Hums the haunting and sad theme song.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You know what was the saddest thing about that theme song? Lou "Hulk" Ferrigno was hearing impaired, so he probably couldn't even hear how sad it was.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  He could feel it... he could feel it.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Which imported beer? Tell me everything, I'm gasping for one.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Lately I've been quite fond of Stella Artois.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  She sounds nice, but what kind of beer do you like?
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  She's very nice indeed. Very full bodied, and just look at that shape! Woohoo!
  
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  She's got a bottle neck.
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  Silverspeederposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Stella? That's for whimps
  
  Some of this does the trick nicely
  
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Mmmm, Old Speckled Hen. I don't see that in my neck of the woods very often but I do grab it when I see it... it's a tasty one
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  When I see you, all I can see is flea bites. Could you post a new hub with pics of you doing other stuff?
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Like me biting the arse of a flea?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe a non flea related hub.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I killed a giant mosquito the other day. It had been hiding out in my bedroom and feasting on me, but I had my revenge.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I forgot where you live... it's not Peru... Ugh, I can't remember, but you have to post something less buggy or the tourism dept. of your country is going to find a way to silence you.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Stella? Hee hee, that lager has quite the reputation. You know its nickname is 'wife-beater'?
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  For real?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh FatFreddy'sCat.... (smh)
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Gimme a break, I'm insufficiently caffeinated this morning...
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I never pictured you to be a wife beater... you probably even have one of those dirty tank tops on right now.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I don't wear tank tops. They expose far too much of my man-boobage to be legal. (or tasteful).
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  *Hulk music begins again...
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ...except I'm not green.
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  Muttfaceposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yip, but as long as you don't own or wear a string vest your wife should be okay.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Snap!
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
I do have a well worn Iron Maiden concert t-shirt from seven or eight years ago though. Would that count?

...and what the hell was this thread supposed to be about, anyway?
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  haha, we're helping you... the more we can bury your first post, the less chance Will will have of finding them then berating you with his sharp, sharp tongue.
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  FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I ain't 'fraid of no Will.
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  Beth37posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Im hoping to make him really angry someday so he'll give me one of his famous tongue lashings. They're so impressive.
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Muttfaceposted 11 years ago
Those are tough words Freddy.
Most metal heads I know are like as mean as teddy bears. All you can smell in the mosh pits is Timotei conditioner for fragile scalps.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
I'm from the '80s. Back then a concert wasn't considered a "good" show till you saw someone being carried out of the mosh pit, bleeding profusely. Ahhh, memories.

...of course, now I'm too old for such nonsense... I'd probably break a hip.
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LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago
Funds Are on the Way!

Hello Linda Smith,

You have just been sent a payment by eCheck. You will receive the money in about 3-5 business days (estimated: 11/6/2013-11/8/2013). We recommend that you wait until the money arrives before shipping items. We'll email you when this eCheck payment has been deposited into your account.

eCheck details

Amount: $25.14 USD

Never had an issue with not receiving payments. This one is my 14th payment.
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FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago
^^ Well, I'm glad to see that these hosers are actually paying SOMEBODY.... (*kicks rock*)
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LindaSmith1posted 11 years ago
I have learned from others who have had payment delays:

If site is acting up, DO NOT put in for redemption that day.

Do not hoard money, in other words let money build up in account. Redeem at a bit over $25 just in case some of your likes may come from a member who loses account,etc. If any of these people have liked your posts, those likes etc will be deleted as well, putting you below $25.

Others have said that putting in for a redemption every day can create issues as well.
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