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Why does my Hubscore drop after editing?

  1. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    My Hubscore drops after I edit a Hub. Is anyone else experiencing this situation? There have been times in which the score has gone up to reflect the editing process. I'm not sure if this is normal.

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
      The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      swilliams,
      Everyone notices that. It has to do with the Hub being published, reviewed, going through the QAP, and checked for any errors and such. When everything is done in several days it will go back up. Be patient. It is nothing new.

      1. pateluday profile image6
        pateludayposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Good answer thanks!

        1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
          The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Glad to help.

    2. RanaKm profile image52
      RanaKmposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah it's weird, it happens to me too sometimes!

    3. kenneth avery profile image80
      kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      My score drops a few points when I publish a hub. But I am through worrying.

      1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
        The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        That is the attitude Kenneth. As I told swilliams when I explained it to her, have patience. :-)

        1. kenneth avery profile image80
          kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I do have patience, Examiner. A few short months ago, I would have metled-down,but today I consider a point or two drop in my Hub Score a necessary cog in a huge wheel and one day, It will go up again.
          Thanks for the support.

    4. kenneth avery profile image80
      kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      My dear friend, SWilliams,
      Let's you and I be cool and just let HP rise and fall, but you and I form a "Cool Alliance," where things like this does not phase us. Deal?"

      1. swilliams profile image81
        swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I know I have to have patience. I know never to fire endurance. Yep. As matter fact impatience is middle name…not really just a matter of speaking. I have to work on that. Thanks.

        1. kenneth avery profile image80
          kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          swilliams, dear friend, what about our alliance?

          1. swilliams profile image81
            swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Dear Kenneth, I do believe that you will probably kick me out your  alliance group. You know the group that concerns the Hubscore that I am not supposed to worry about.

            I should be ashamed myself... being that I wrote an article on how not obsess over your Hubscore...However, I have noticed that when traffic goes up my Hubscore goes down.

            Yep. I am officially kicked out of the don't worry about your Hubscore alliance group... aren't I?

            I don't understand. but that's okay I don't need understand everything...Do I?

            But if anyone knows anything please feel free to tell me.

            And I'm probably kicked out of Examiner 1's patience group too. Hugh? I probably need therapy...but they will probably kick me out of their office too.

            1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
              The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

              No. Give me time to find an answer for that one. I have to eat my supper. lol

              1. swilliams profile image81
                swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                What are you having for dinner? Bird seed? I joke a I kid. But all joking aside, is bird seed safe for humans to eat? I ask because you are an expert at bird watching. Love the Hubs.  I should stay on topic. I do await insightful information. Thank you.

                1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
                  The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  Certain bird seed is safe to eat and others are not. Some can be added to dishes or cooked.
                  I had my usual - a sandwich with some salmon from a can, spices and cheese. Plus tea and desert.
                  As for your question, I would guess that it is like editing a Hub. As you wait for the sudden response to traffic reply, it is similar to a 'shock' to your Hub and it has to bounce back.

            2. kenneth avery profile image80
              kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              Dear swilliams,
              Emphatically, NO, you are NOT kicked-out of our "Cool Alliance." In order to be even nominated for a kick-out, you need to publish a hub and aim it at ME using flimsy adjectives, a lot of "yew know?" a few "like, you know," and a "Ewwwww," or two.
              Other than this one rule, you are in good standing with our group.

              1. swilliams profile image81
                swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                Oh thank you Kenneth! I was very concerned about being kicked out of our unofficial group. I'm only human. I normally don't worry like that.... okay, yes I do. But I'm working on It! Thank you for not kicking me out the group. And I do have a Hub with  Ew! in it, complements of Jimmy Fallon, but none of them are about you. :-)

                1. kenneth avery profile image80
                  kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  swilliams,
                  You will be so proud of me for not worrying about my hubscore that between your comments, my replies and this comment  . . .
                  1. I took a nap
                  2. Walked a half mile for exercise
                  3. Taught my cat to do a trick
                  4. Started learning Portuguese
                  So you are right. Worrying does not pay.

                  1. swilliams profile image81
                    swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I could have learned how do all of that great stuff.... I missed the boat Kenneth.

        2. swilliams profile image81
          swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, of course Kenneth! We will call it the let's not have a heart attack over your Hubscore alliance! Actually that's too long I'll have to think of something shorter. I'm open for suggestions. I actually sneezed and my Hubscore went down. But you are right Kenneth no worries. "Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.”
          ― Corrie ten Boom
          That sure does sound good on paper :-)

          1. kenneth avery profile image80
            kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            swilliams, you sneezed and your score dropped? I love it. If you get a part-time job in stand-up comedy, I will be your biggest fan. I promise.

            1. swilliams profile image81
              swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I was thinking the same thing about you my friend.

              1. kenneth avery profile image80
                kenneth averyposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                swilliams, you are a very sweet person to even think this, but you are one who has the quicker mind and wit. Hey, I could manage your career and you would be rich in no time.

  2. taiwokareem profile image86
    taiwokareemposted 2 years ago

    yes mine drop from 79 to 63

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It's always good to update your Hubs every so often. Sometimes change happens for the best. I worked for a company that updated their programs every year! They told me their system is like a tween kid, they always have to try on new outfits to stay ahead of the game. If the outfit works fine and if it does not, at least they tried. I have learned that Flexibility opens the door to growth.

    2. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Your Hubscore is going back up! Did you edit too?

  3. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Did this change happen after editing? It moves up in a turtle manner, not as fast as it used to. I know there has been some changes or tweeking concerning the system.

    1. taiwokareem profile image86
      taiwokareemposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      no i didn't experience that but it fluctuated from 79 to 68 to 63. i was so shocked but i had to move on

    2. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I complained about this a few weeks ago and Paul Edmonson posted on one of the forums that the team did, in fact, do some tweaking which changed the way in which hub scores are done.

      He also said there would be more "tweaking", but this was a problem for many here, including me.

      Those scores supposedly do not affect your views but can be affected by your views, which is one of the reasons they are constantly changing.

      When you edit, your post goes through QAP again, and the score will always come back lower, even though the post may be better.  It will come back up in time, but maybe not as much as you would prefer.

      1. swilliams profile image81
        swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Hopefully the changes will adjust properly with time and patience. I'm not good at the patience part, I keep hearing that patience is a very important part of life.

  4. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    That makes sense. Thanks The Examiner! :-)

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
      The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You are welcome swilliams. Glad to help. :-)

  5. goatfury profile image90
    goatfuryposted 2 years ago

    Overall, changes are really good for Hubpages in terms of Google's bots taking a look, right?  Seems like they'd want to encourage this behavior, not discourage it... but I'm no SEO wizard.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I am talking about the  score that is next the actual article itself. Google bots may play a role behind the scene. I would love to take an SEO training class however...I'm still trying to grasp the Google analytics concept. It's a lot to take in.

      1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
        TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        swillilams:

        When time permits, check out the hub Writer Fox wrote about SEO.   It's heavy, but he really knows his stuff.

        1. Writer Fox profile image81
          Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          Thanks for the complement!

          1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
            TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

            Writer Fox:

            That was no compliment...you are a person who really knows what he is doing.  It's a fact, my friend, a fact!

          2. swilliams profile image81
            swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            You provided a wealth of information involving SEO thank you. I do believe that understanding SEO is important. Yet, some experts say that it can be a tricky game at time and very time consuming. Very informative info. Thanks Writer Fox!

            1. Writer Fox profile image81
              Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I'm glad it helped, Emunah. Are you still taking Hebrew classes?

              1. swilliams profile image81
                swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                How did you know about that? I'm still working on the Hebrew alphabet. Through the scripture Psalm 119 in Hebrew! You have a good memory Writer Fox!

    2. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      You know Paul Edmondson did a video with SEOinhouse.com it was awhile back in 2012, However there is some good insight.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nah_RUOP94g

      1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
        The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        I looked for that and got "Oops! Chrome could not find insight..." I looked up YouTube pauledmondson SEO and three showed up.

  6. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Thank you.

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Sorry for the typo, but you're welcome.

      1. swilliams profile image81
        swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Are you kidding me? I am the woman who killed the word Squidoo. I will never make fun of a typo for the rest my life. I am banning myself.
        Seriously...You can spell the word zoo wrong. You can say," I went to the OOZ today." and i will ignore the typo and think... maybe she or he met zoo. I'm so over it.

  7. LindaSmith1 profile image60
    LindaSmith1posted 2 years ago

    My hub scores have gone up even though I hadn't published anything for awhile and traffic has not been booming for me.  However, since I have added new hubs, participated in forums, etc, my HUBBER SCORE has dropped almost 10 points.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      It's sad when this happens. I am positive person for the most part. I just want to bring awareness on how to address this situation. I feel that most of us really strive to be authors of quality. We want to do our best, so it is weird when you try to participate and then your Hubscore drops. As matter of fact I have been talking a  lot on this thread maybe may I should pipe down... it does not seem to be helping my Hubscore. But I was told that I should participate. I feel like I'm being attacked by the Hubscore Grim Reaper...
      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/9203500_f248.jpg

  8. Paul Edmondson profile image
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    Paul Edmondsonposted 2 years ago

    We have had quite a bit of discussion about this and we will make future adjustments.

    It will be a few months because we are in the middle of some large projects.

  9. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    HI Paul! How does the big plan impact hubscores? Does it have to do with SEO Data?

    1. Paul Edmondson profile image
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      Paul Edmondsonposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      We've changed HubScore so much over the years. It once had a significant traffic component. Not so much today. We don't use seo data in the scores.

      1. swilliams profile image81
        swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Paul I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question.

        1. swilliams profile image81
          swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          I must say, that it nice to know that one can write about what they know or have experienced without being fearful of their Hubscore. Because let's face it, if my Hubscore is reflection of poor writing skills then I don't want to keep writing...that's sad. Oh Just a tab bit of info. My daughter is visiting me before she takes off for college. She is majoring in communications. She told me large project is none of business for now. And my future daughter-in-law from the U.K. who is also majoring in communications told me to get off the computer. :-)

      2. Brite-Ideas profile image80
        Brite-Ideasposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        thanks for this, I was looking for this information

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    LisaKeatingposted 2 years ago

    Thanks Paul.

  11. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    Wow! Examiner that would make a good Hub. What a healthy dinner! Thanks for your reply! I sincerely mean that. :-)

    1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
      The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Unfortunately I cannot take photos, since I do not have a camera, or else I would.
      You are welcome.

  12. PurvisBobbi44 profile image90
    PurvisBobbi44posted 2 years ago

    Writer Fox is the best in my book---I have learned so much from him---I feel blessed to know him as a fellow Hubber. I just had to but in and share my thoughts.

    Bobbi Purvis

    1. TIMETRAVELER2 profile image92
      TIMETRAVELER2posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      That!!

    2. Writer Fox profile image81
      Writer Foxposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Thank you, Bobbi.  I guess that means that I get your vote for the Hubbie Award for being the best animal on HubPages.

  13. Cynthianne profile image93
    Cynthianneposted 2 years ago

    Mine always does but then picks back up once a few people have read my article.

  14. PurvisBobbi44 profile image90
    PurvisBobbi44posted 2 years ago

    How did you know!!!!

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    Peggy Jamesposted 2 years ago

    This is what helped me to understand hub scores. Maybe it'll shed some light.

    http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/hubs … bber-score

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Peggy! Yes I read that one too. I just noticed that some weird stuff was happening. Due to some big project changes, the Hubscore is going through some changes. I think it's getting a face Lift I think they should use short words instead of numbers.

      Example:

      100% to 90% Really in depth articles Evergreens = AW = for Absolutely wonderful!
      80% Detailed articles= NB= Not Bad!
      70%  The middle of the Road articles = O= Okay.
      40% The I'm not sure what's going on here- articles= H= Hugh?
      Anything below 40% The horrible insane what were they thinking articles E= Ew!

      But that probably would not work either because then I would be wondering why do have an E for Ew! hubscore?
      Yep. :-(

  16. Bluelotusrajeev profile image55
    Bluelotusrajeevposted 2 years ago

    I have not much knowledge of Hubs score but as i know few facts about seo, may it be the factor. More you add the words more fluctuation in your keyword density. Also some addition may alter the perfection of the entire article that make it drop the hub score.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Hi Bluelotusrajeev, I have not gotten a chance to study SEO as much as I'd like to. However I believe that SEO is a different kind of beast within itself that takes time to understand and invest in.

      1. Bluelotusrajeev profile image55
        Bluelotusrajeevposted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Seo is giant killer but content is king which control the seo. So give good content get better -  semantic search is what today's need.

        1. swilliams profile image81
          swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

          When you say content are you talking about the length? Or original content?

          1. Bluelotusrajeev profile image55
            Bluelotusrajeevposted 2 years ago in reply to this

            @swilliams It's never about length. It's always the information. May you write 200 words good content full of information needed by me, I sure read the article many times but 1000+ words not relevant to me or lack  the information - it not worthy, will leave never come back again.

            1. swilliams profile image81
              swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

              I agree that an article should be based on fact and engaging for the reader. However when I wrote articles for certain news outlets they wanted 500 words not over 600 words, And Google likes evergreen content such as Wikipedia. Which are lengthy articles,

              1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
                The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                We are not Wikipedia, we are better. For one thing, most writers do not seem to edit the articles before they are posted, and nobody does it afterwards either. For Evergreen content they do not seem to do very well. I do not see polls, quizzes, hardly a map or a video, etc. They have many links, maybe too many, sometimes they do not work and usually they only go somewhere else in Wikipedia.

                1. swilliams profile image81
                  swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

                  I never clicked on any of their links but it seems as if Google is fond of their work.
                  https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=c … afe=active

                  1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
                    The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

                    I know that when I search for something on Google, Wikipedia is usually one of the top items listed. I use Wiki often and I have looked at many of their links in, and below, their articles. That is how I have noticed the errors in the articles.

  17. dhimanreena profile image82
    dhimanreenaposted 2 years ago

    @Swilliams you don't need to worry about your hubscore. Even I noticed the same thing on my score last month when I edited one of my hubs. Believe me it keeps on fluctuating and after some time, you will notice a rise in your score.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Hi dhimanreena! That is encouraging to hear. I think maybe I should not edit all of my Hubs at once. That could confuse the Hub Score fairy. I have a very big imagination. I'm starting to see a small ray of hope. However I look forward to change, and strive to do everything right on my end. Thanks!

      1. The Examiner-1 profile image82
        The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

        Just be familiar with content and keywords and you will be familiar with SEO.

  18. pateluday profile image6
    pateludayposted 2 years ago

    Seo Benefits are hard to com by at Hubpages But I keep on trying to excel here. Other platforms offer seo benefits with significant editorial scrutiny.

  19. word55 profile image82
    word55posted 2 years ago

    My score has dropped too. I'm going to eliminate the Amazon links from my hubs because they don't seem to earn me anything.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      Word55, your going to eliminate all of your Amazon links?

    2. The Examiner-1 profile image82
      The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      word55,
      I just read about someone else who was going to do that and they were told not to, it would make any difference. If you are set on this then go to the Amazon capsule(s) and check off the box for "Do not show this" before you delete them to see whether it makes a difference.

  20. SANJAY LAKHANPAL profile image87
    SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 2 years ago

    It happens with my hubs too.

  21. pateluday profile image6
    pateludayposted 2 years ago

    Will eliminating Amazon increase hub score?

    1. Bluelotusrajeev profile image55
      Bluelotusrajeevposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think Amazon capsule will have such effect

  22. misterhollywood profile image91
    misterhollywoodposted 2 years ago

    That is a good question - I have always wondered that too! I wonder if it has something to do with trust factors and Google? I heard that after you publish someone and it goes on Google that if you republish it ... it lowers the trust factor. Not sure if that is true or not.

    1. swilliams profile image81
      swilliamsposted 2 years ago in reply to this

      This is a scary thought.

    2. The Examiner-1 profile image82
      The Examiner-1posted 2 years ago in reply to this

      I gave swilliawms an answer to this up at the top misterhollywood. The main two factors that you have to remember are patience and and not to worry about it.

  23. swilliams profile image81
    swilliamsposted 2 years ago

    No more worries for me Eaminer-1.

  24. Pkumarpal8 profile image52
    Pkumarpal8posted 2 years ago

    I am also so confused about the same.... sad

 
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