American Citizens Are Victimizing the Obama Administration

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Happy anniversary everyone!
   
   Yes, it's been exactly one year since the president announced that the police "acted stupidly" despite the fact that he didn't have all the facts on the arrest of his buddy in Cambridge. We're seeing that same style of decision-making coming from the White House to this day, most recently in the form of the Shirley Sherrod fiasco.
   
   It's one of the defining characteristics of this administration: When race is involved, act quickly, act erratically, act before you have the facts and then call the other side racist when it becomes obvious you've screwed up.
   
   Remember: In liberation theology there is either the oppressor or the oppressed.
   
   Now, this is where it gets tricky: The people who are in charge and are fundamentally transforming everything against your will? They are the oppressed.
   
   You are the oppressor. The president must play the oppressed card every time. Everyone in his administration are victims; you are victimizing them. And you, me and everyone else, victimized Shirley Sherrod... even though they were the ones who fired her.
   
   Now, that's a tough case to make, but I that's why the president gets the big bucks.
   
   
   http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,597482,00.html

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      Elpasoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why can't Beck just stop screaming and crying and just pay his taxes like the rest of us.  That's what his long speech boils down to, a man that doesn't want to pay his fair share of the taxes he owes. We all have to pay for the privilage of living in the greatest Country in the world.

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   bgamallposted 13 years ago

   This is a boneheaded post. For one thing, the administration admitted the mistake. For another, Faux News set this up with a sound bite that had nothing to do with the whole speech.
   
   I may be dumb but I am not stupid, Ann.

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      Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So making decisions before becoming aware of the facts, is that what you look for in your leadership?

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         thooghunposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The same could be said of just about any political leader. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
         
         It's a human trait, you don't have to like it, but nobody is perfect.

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      bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who was the idiot who deemed it necessary to fire Ms. Sherrod in a knee-jerk reaction and then say...sorry?

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      niall.tubbsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

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         bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And Kool-Aid.

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      tony0724posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Actually I think Fox was set up. Because Sherrod was fired before the big shows came on Fox. I was watching CNN and Sherrod said that the White House wanted her to resign because the sound byte was gonna show up on Glenn Beck on the 19th. And Beck never said a word. Obama is reacting to Fox before Fox even airs their program.  Who is supposedly the President here ?

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If they were set up, then their superior journalism should have saved them from embarrassment, right?

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            tony0724posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            The point is the forced resignation was done before air time. I guess I should watch more MSNBC I know Keith is really fair and balanced !

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               PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Yes, but not before Fox News ran it on their website.  It was then officially a news story.
               
               Besides, what difference does it make that she resigned minutes before O'Reilly and the rest of the Fox "entertainers" went on the air? The point is, shoddy journalism instigated the sorry chain of events in the first place.
               
               Shepard Smith, one of Fox News' "real" reporters was mightily upset with his employer.
               
               http://www.mediaite.com/online/shep-smi … r-sherrod/

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   MikeNVposted 13 years ago

   Obama = FAIL
   
   At this point you would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything he says... a complete idiot.
   
   Obama is destroying America.
   
   Case in Point:
   
   "WASHINGTON – The Treasury Department's pay czar said Friday that 17 banks gave their top executives $1.6 billion in lavish payments while they were receiving billions of dollars in taxpayer-funded bailouts.
   
   Kenneth Feinberg said he did not have the authority to ask the firms to repay the money that was handed out during the financial crisis. But he said they should develop new rules on compensation that would allow them to slash compensation payments in future crises."
   
   Gee this isn't Obama's fault... blame this on George Bush.  Don't even consider the FACT that Obama did everything he could to make sure they Bankers got their Money!  Obama was practically bragging about all the phone calls he made to make sure this Tax Payer giveaway happened.
   
   And just this week more Unemployment Benefits passed that are NOT paid for... another blank check.  The money to fund the Bill was available... but he refused to do it.
   
   Obama is just writing blank checks, and destroying American Business.
   
   Financial Reform as created by Dodd, Frank, and Obama... is going to push more American Jobs oversees and do nothing to prevent the same payoffs to the Wealthy from happening again.

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      bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Arrrrrggghhhhh!!!!!!!!

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      Elpasoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      "And just this week more Unemployment Benefits passed that are NOT paid for... another blank check.  The money to fund the Bill was available... but he refused to do it"
      
      The end of this year the Bush Tax Cuts for the rich expire. How do you feel about that blank check coming to an end?  That can help pay for the thousands of people thrown out of work by the financial crisis.  I'm no financial wizard, but I think keeping the workforce alive and eating is a blank check that should have been written. But, of course some would prefer they get out and work for slave wages,(which is the end game for businesses in the first place)but, thankfully, rich crooks don't rule this Country yet.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   I don't know if this will make any difference to you, bgamall, but here is the timeline of events.
   
   March 27 Sherrod gives speech.
   
   Early April Breitbart first contacted about speech.  Probably given edited version.
   
   July 19 8:30 am Breitbart posts video clip in response to NAACP comments on tea party members.
   
   July 19 Sherrod gets three phone calls on her way home from work telling her that the White House is demanding her resignation.  She is told to pull off the road and come back to resign immediately because she was going to be on Glenn Beck tonight.
   
   July 19 8:49 Fox News, not the Glenn Beck Show, but the Bill O'Reilly show runs the video clip.
   
   Glenn Beck has never run it and he asked for the entire speech when he saw the clip.   The first thing he said about it on the air was in defense of Sherrod.
   
   Sherrod was forced to resign because the clip was out and the Obama administration jumped to the conclusion that it was accurate and that Fox News would run with it.

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      bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      There are only a few things in this world that tans my hide, one of them being conclusion jumpers!!!

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         Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Like Obama did in the Professor Gates controversy?

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            bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Any conclusion jumping that involves knee-jerk reactions leading to the hardships of another without hearing all of the facts.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Yeah, well, I guess we should stop victimizing the Obama administration so much and then they wouldn't be so twitchy!
   
   One good thing is that Obama appears to like and respect (and bow to) foreigners more than Americans so maybe he won't be so hasty when it comes to pushing the red button.

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Why can't Charlie Rangel just stop screaming and crying and just pay his taxes like the rest of us.  That's what his long speech boils down to, a man that doesn't want to pay his fair share of the taxes he owes. We all have to pay for the privilage of living in the greatest Country in the world.
   
   Fixed it for you, Elpaso.

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      Elpasoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ??? You made Becks whinning a part of your forum topic. Do you want to change it now to a discussion about Charlie Rangel. You can't touch him. The people here in New York love him. Move on.

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      bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Can anyone say... a sense of entitlement?

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   PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago

   I was watching Fox News after the whole story emerged about the Sherrod videotape being edited to make it appear she was racist.  You gotta hand it to them, they know how to spin a story.  They immediately deflected blame from Breitbart (who released the edited video) and themselves (who reported it without fact-checking) by focusing on the too-quick firing of Sherrod.  Errors were made all the way around, but the most egregious one by far was the intentional smearing of Shirley Sherrod by a right-wing blogger aided and abetted by a biased and lazy news media, led by Fox News.  Any other part of this story pales in comparison to that initial dishonest and hateful act.
   
   Remember how Dan Rather lost his job for sloppy reporting and Fox News was leading the charge for his dismissal?  Why aren't heads swinging at Fox News?

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      Elpasoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why is that right wing circus still being called a news show?  They have no legitimate reporters, they have no unbiased reporting or editorials, how can they be considered a news organization when they don't even qualify to be a Hollyword Rag?

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         PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with you, mostly.  They do have a few legitimate reporters who occasionally report something their bosses don't like, but they're drowned out by the Crazy Clowns that like to pretend they're imparting legitimate knowledge until they're called out for their inflammatory antics, then they're just "entertainers."

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      William R. Wilsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This.

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   TMMasonposted 13 years ago

   Those facts would be the White House forced her to resign.... then Bill O'Rielly talked about it on his show for 30 secs.
   
   Another fact is Beck didn't talk about it on his show that day.
   
   Not till 36 or more hours after she had been forced by Oby to resign did he even mention it.
   
   And he said Oby should not be forcing her to resign with just a clip that didn't hold the full context of the speech.
   
   Which even when listened to fully, does not show any great redemption from her racism.
   
   I think she still is a racist... now she is Marxist also, though.
   
   Just my opinion.
   
   But it is funny now how she is a hero to the Leant Leftists for having been what?... transformed from a racxist to a Marxist.
   
   Okay...
   
   So all the leftist lies about Fox spining anything, is BS...
   
   I expect nothing less from the Leant Leftist Liberal Progressive Socialist Democrats.
   
   The facts are this was a bomb tossed at beck and he didn't grab it.... so the left lies and says Fox did.
   
   36 hours people... and the story was right... she was forced to resign by Obama, for a speech she gave at the NAACP.
   
   Thats the story.
   
   Where is that wrong

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      PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct that Beck did not discuss Sherrod on his show that day (the day Breitbart posted it on his blog).  However, Fox News, both the news network and the website, provided plenty of air time for showing the video and discussing Sherrod's racism, all within hours of when the video was posted on the blog.  All of the following appeared the same day the video was released
      
      foxnews.com:  An article was posted discussing the video.  It has since been removed but screen captures are available.
      
      Fox Nation: Video is posted.
      
      Bill O'Reilly:  Aired the video and O'Reilly stated "That is simply unacceptable. And Ms. Sherrod must resign immediately."
      
      Fox News Alert: Hannity reports that Sherrod has resigned and discusses the incident with Gingrich.  Newt Gingrich stated: "Secretary Vilsack did exactly the right thing. I mean I often disagree with this administration. But firing her after that kind of viciously racist attitude was exactly the right thing to do."
      
      Hannity's Great American Panel discusses Sherrod video.  During the "Great American Panel" segment of Fox News' Hannity, Republican strategist Kate Obenshain stated, "It's just a shame that it takes an expose, it takes Breitbart having to put it on his website, for her resignation to be forced."
      
      Perino discusses Sherrod on Fox's On the Record.  On Fox News' On the Record, guest host Dana Perino reported on Sherrod's resignation and aire Breitbart's video.
      
      Go Fox News!  The best right-wing reporting money can buy.  They sure know how to spread a story! 
      
      Timeline of Breitbart's Sherrod Smear

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         TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The story being she was forced to resign by obama for that clip.
         
         That was the story. Right PP?
         
         So what, they spread it.
         
         They didn't twist it.
         
         I for one find that video quite revealing in regards to not only Sherrod but the NAACP. Who, not knowing the story, were loving the hate shown the white farmer.
         
         Very telling indeed .
         
         And at that time 8, 9 and 10 at nite, it was all done and even the NAACP was calling her a racist. So what O'Rielly thought she should be fired.... big deal about whoever thought that on fox.
         
         Everyone who saw it thought that till the NAACP was forced to release the whole tape. 
         
         Also, I do not see the tape as a redemption of any of the parties involved.
         
         As I said, Sherrod went from racist to Marxist.
         
         I do not like either one of those ideologies

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            PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You said:  "So all the leftist lies about Fox spining anything, is BS..."
            
            Clearly, Fox jumped on a trumped up smear campaign, then diverted the story to cover their sorry journalism (and I use that word loosely).

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               TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               No they didn't...
               
               They simply reported that sherrod had been forced to resign by Obama and his admin, an assertion made by Sherrod, and that is where the story ended.
               
               No false facts in there at all.
               
               She made the speech... the clips aired on briet-bart and Obama forced her out.
               
               End of story.
               
               if anything the spin is on the Left PP... you all really think you can blame fox for her resignation and that is just absurd.
               
               And it isn't working either.
               
               Oh. And the woman is still a racist... only now she embraces her Marxism with even more vigor then her racism. Her own kind, (her words), the NAACP and Obama threw her under the bus.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, if you'd actually looked at the videos or read the transcripts of O'Reilly, Hannity, et al, you would know they did a whole lot more than just report her resignation.
                  
                  I'm responding for anyone else who might be reading, because I know it doesn't really matter to you what is actually shown by the video and transcripts.  You will stick to your story no matter what.

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                     AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Oh my gosh, I just realized you don't think I am aware of the entire scenario or that I refuse to believe or acknowledge or whatever the fact that Sherrod told a whole story about her experiences which brought her to see that the racial division between poor people of any color kept them from realizing that the real problem was corruption in high places and that poor people should be there for each other and work together??"?
                     
                     
                     Sheesh.  Why do I respond to your posts?   You obviously don't read mine.

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                        PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I really don't know what you are talking about.  I was responding to TM.

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                           AnnCeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Scuse!  Thought Elpaso wrote that to me.  *blush*

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                              PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              It's okay.  I've done similar things here on the forums. 

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   AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

   Why can't Timothy Geithner just stop screaming and crying and just pay his taxes like the rest of us.  That's what his long speech boils down to, a man that doesn't want to pay his fair share of the taxes he owes. We all have to pay for the privilage of living in the greatest Country in the world.
   
   Oh oops!  Fixed it for you again, Elpaso.

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      Elpasoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Baby...you got an original thought in your head? This is your forum. Anyway, let me help you out some more. Andrew Breitbart is the bad guy in the Sherrod slander. The Fox circus were bystanders reacting to the slander just like the Keystone Cops in the White House.
      
      I'm not finished yet...
      Why can't ALL TAX DODGING CRY BABIES just stop screaming and crying and just pay his taxes like the rest of us.  That's what his long speech boils down to, a man that doesn't want to pay his fair share of the taxes he owes. We all have to pay for the privilage of living in the greatest Country in the world.
      
      Please contact me if you need further assistance.

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    tony0724posted 13 years ago

    Oh and the thing AI am more worried about is the fact that part of the financial reform bill is a little nugget that says the Government can monitor my cash transactions , check me for obesity and also monitor what I am being paid before I even submit my W-2s at the end of the year. And this little gem I got from ABC News
    
    
    Starting Jan. 1, 2012, Form 1099s will become a means of reporting to the Internal Revenue Service the purchases of all goods and services by small businesses and self-employed people that exceed $600 during a calendar year. Precious metals such as coins and bullion fall into this category and coin dealers have been among those most rankled by the change.
    
    This provision, intended to mine what the IRS deems a vast reservoir of uncollected income tax, was included in the health care legislation ostensibly as a way to pay for it. The tax code tweak is expected to raise $17 billion over the next 10 years, according to the Joint Committee on Taxation
    
    
    Nice to see all the hope and change comin to fruition ! Unlike Geithner and Charlie Rangel I pay my taxes

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       The furor over this is more right wing nonsense.
       
       There IS a large underground economy and requiring 1099's will catch some of it.
       
       It is NOT a burden on business.   Even a one person business like mine is computerized and these supposedly burdensome 1099's will be generated automatically.
       
       Smaller businesses seldom buy anything worth $600 anyway, so they will hardly ever have to do one.
       
       The ONLY people this really affects are those lying cheats who do everything in cash and don't keep records.   I like affecting them.
       
       But y'all buy the Fox News take like you always do.

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          Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          
          
          
          Small business does not buy items over $600.00?
          
          
          Pcunix please meet the real world.
          
          Real world this is Pcunix he has no idea who you are.
          
          Hope you guys can form a workable relationship.

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             Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Learn how to read and don't quote me out of context.
             
             Because you have to act like Fox News, now I have to repeat myself.
             
             I said, even a small, one man business like mine uses computer software to track and generate 1099's.  It's no burden at all other than a very small amount of extra postage and even that goes away if I'm also mailing in a payment.
             
             Businesses even smaller than mine, that are too small to even have a computer, don't buy much in the way of expensive items. 
             
             The people who will be affected are the cheats, like the businesses in the Gulf who can't get compensation from BP because they've been doing business off the books - no records, no taxes.

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                Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Well no records no taxes, Violation of the law. Why would they expect compensation, if we did that the drug dealers could file claims because the majority of their customers are now unemployed.
                
                Btw: I quoted you in context.
                
                
                "Smaller businesses seldom buy anything worth $600 anyway, so they will hardly ever have to do one."  Exact quote!
                
                
                Do not bother to repeat yourself to me, it is unnecessary  IDC.

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    AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

    The Fox tail is wagging the big dog.

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    AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

    
    
    
    It is good to stretch.  To stay limber.  But, Pretty Panther, I hope you don't pull a muscle.

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       PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I know, some people will perform circus acrobatics to excuse dishonest and shoddy reporting.

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    AnnCeeposted 13 years ago

    Well, Elpaso, I'll admit Breitbart was unprofessional to accept the clip and post the clip without checking it out.   Or if he did check it out and still posted it, he is nuts.  Did he know the source or trust the source?
    
    Who was the source?
    
    It smells a little stinky to me.
    
    And somehow the Journolist is strangely out of the cycle even though someone keeps leaking more and more evidence of collusion by professional journalists to prop Obama and destroy conservatives.  Hmmm now. . .   I say hmmmmm. . .
    
    Meanwhile our country is being taken down by radicals and we keep getting distracted by little this's and thats.  Positively diabolical.

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    All-Things-Redposted 13 years ago

    "There could be a black president one day but you don't wanna be the first one, i mean second or thrid that's fine but that first nigga better watch out let me tell you right now" - D.Chappelle.  Maybe making Ted Rall Secretary Of Veterans Affairs would boost his ratings.

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       bsscorpio8posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Maybe that comic genius Dave Chapelle should run, then he could really earn his worth making a true mockery of the system being that..."nigga".

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    Pcunixposted 13 years ago

    It's wonderful to see how much Fox teaches the Right, isn't it?  Pull things right of context without any shame at all.

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       Reality Bytesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I do not have cable TV and have not seen fox in about eight years. 
       
       
       I quoted you in context, if you regret your statements simply amend them.  Do not try and make yourself out to be some unbiased entity.
       
       Believe it or not I am more than competent to figure things out for myself without having to quote some paid doldrum to make my point.
       
       Go back to your Saul Alinsky book and reread chapter three.

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