Impeachment of a President

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WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years ago
Impeachment of a President
One would think that the impeachment of a president is not conducive in showing him support.”Give him a chance,” people say. President Obama, to be exact, has been in office for a year now. He has done a lot of damage in that year. I have seen not one promise made come to fruition. When a president is elected, he is elected based on what he proposed during the presidential campaign. When a president is voted into office he takes an oath to serve and protect the people of the United States of America. I have seen the contrary during President Obama’s term so far.
Before President Obama took office, while he was campaigning for the presidency, promises of transparency, excessive pork barrel spending would be stopped and spending posted online for the people of America to see. In addition, any plans of change made by his new administration would also be posted. Full transparency, said the president. Promises of ensuring the unemployment rate would not increase above 8.2% were also made.
The president has done nothing he promised. What he has done is worsen the economy. Increase our debt. Put America in danger by bringing the terrorists into our country from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Nothing is transparent. For example; the republicans were locked out of the conference room while the senate debated over the health care bill. Another point of reference, the people of America don’t want the health care bill, yet the House still passed it. The president pushed it and the people of America ignored. The president made sure to appoint everyone into his cabinet that would agree with him weather it was wrong or right. When someone in his cabinet disagreed they were fired, Van Jones for example. Something is rotten in Denmark. The fact that we believed in him enough to vote him into office says that we trusted he would do what he said during his campaign. However, for this administration and this president’s promises have been ignored and so have the people of America. We have asked the president on several occasions “Where is the transparency?” ,“why is the unemployment rate now over 10.2%?”,” did you know in some states unemployment is at 13 % or higher?”, ”where are the shovel ready jobs?”, “Why are you passing the health care bill that we don’t want?” Yet these questions are still left unanswered and unaddressed.
Impeachment is like firing an employee who doesn’t follow the rules he agreed to upon their hire. By law, an employer must give an employee three verbal notices and three written notices and if the problem(s) are not corrected or rule(s) are not adhered to, the employee is then fired. Why does the president not get treated the same way? He does work for the people of the United States of America and we do pay his salary. Just as if he were an employee of the U.S.A
I still see no recompense for what the president promised upon taking the presidency seat, nor do I see action being taken against him for all the deception. As a result of how President Obama is running the country he is causing our economy to fall into hyperinflation. We are in debt to other countries now, a debt we are unable to pay back. This will inevitably cause World War III; which will be a nuclear war. Yet no measures have been taken to impeach our president. He doesn’t listen to reason, he doesn’t answer our questions. I believe, the only way he will listen to the people in which voted for him, is to form a petition to impeach the president. Maybe then our questions will be answered and the president will sit up and take notice
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Welcome to HubPages!
  You're among friends here. A lot of us here have the same grasp of the facts that you have. Before I go any further...I dont think any of your criticism of Barack Hussein Obama has anything to do with his race or his religion. You laid out all of the Articles of Impeachment for Barack Hussein Obama very well. No here could argue your facts. Your charges were honest, truthful, well researched and very convincing. You should send that Petition to Congress as soon as you can. Get Dick Cheney to help you with the charges you may have overlooked. With you and Dick Cheney stating the undeniable facts about Barack Hussein Obama to Congress; I dont think there's any question as to whether he will be impeached, and removed from office. Great Job!
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hehehehehehehehehehe
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you very much I have been doing alot of research prior to posting.
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  OH MY! Read it again please.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol I'm wondering now if he's 'one of ours' just posing as a Glennbeckatroll. Seeing how many wingnuts he can get to go along with it.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... Could be
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I admit it. I felt so sleazy after WeStand4Freedom said THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I thought the Dick Cheney comment would make it obvious I talking about someone that lies with no concern about whether or not you catch him in his lies.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Aparently I misunderstood your sarcasm. If Dick Cheney is a liar What the H is Obama? Or are you an Oba-ite, that makes excuses for him after he makes a mistake w/o his teliprompter?
  
  Or how about the many times clips have been shown last year that contradict the promises he made. Wingnuts need Bolts, to be anchored. what is your excuse. Where is your Anchoring to secure the comments of discussed toward me. It completely blows my mind that anyone no matter who or where they came from cannot admit that it is just plain not right especially the president to say he is going to do one thing and go completely the opposite direction especially during a delicate economy. My must be one of those people who are comfy cosy and have no worries or CARES about the rest of the country, because hey your ok right?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, Ma'am. I still think you should be spending energy towards your aim--the petition--rather than going on and on here. What purpose does it serve?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  rayandmandyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just remember..Obama is not the only one making ALL the decisions...there were problems existing before he took office. Most of all,his political views are shattered because certain people disagree with it and make it impossible for his visions to become effective. How can one man fix all the problems we had before he became president?(Why didn't that president fix it?) Why is the previous president not the blame for current economical problems that transferred over to Obama? How can 1 man fix all the problems if there are various opinions and beliefs contrary to his? Do you really believe that one man is the cause of all the problems we are having as a nation? First of all, we shouldn't have been in the war we are currently in.It was not our war to begin with. Our previous presidents were more worried about fighting other people's wars and forgot about our economic situation. So why should Obama be impeached? If we were to impeach Obama, then the next president would have the same situations to deal with and he/she would have to go through the same scrutiny as Obama. Impeachment of Obama is irrelevant!
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  James Agbogunposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This volume should have been enough to make a Hub to fill the empty space of the zero Hub. I think more informations on how to impeach Obama would make a lot of Hubs. Thank you.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your right when i figure out how i will
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  readytoescapeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Article II Section 4 of the Constitution.
  
  "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ACORN, Bribery, illegal voting etc. Thank for that fact, it is nice to know the actual facts. The Wade's in Acorn, Rev. Wright and the like I do think something is rotten in Denmark
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It has not been proven fully yet, but is definately something that needs looking into.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think it would be a great exercise. A chance to prove all the opinions that are being circulated would be a great thing for the country to see. A tremendous amount of energy and expense would have to be employed and the time would greatly encumber congress but what else do they have to do.
  
  The only problem is the result would be that nothing would happen other than exposing the right wings agenda and that is already quite evident. The inuendo would be priceless from the birther conspiracy to the socialist agenda. The real religion of the president from his muslim roots to his racist christian beliefs nurtured by Jeremiah White. What a dog and pony show it would be. Great evening news fodder and countless lawsuits would ensue.
  
  A whirly twirley circus sponsored by your friendly neighborhood right wing nuts.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Everything you say is definately true, but as far as the right wing nut comment, I am only about what is wrong and right and about freedom for all, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA , UNITED WE STAND Right?
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  Himitsu Shugishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This is the most ridiculous one-sided argument I have ever seen in my life. If I were you, I would be ashamed to have my name next to it. What did you think that this President or any president would come into office, wave a magic wand and all that ails the world would be good again? Whether you agree with his politics or not, what he is trying to do is fix a broken system that is breaking America and bankrupting families all across this country. By the way, last I checked, nothing has been signed yet. Guantanamo bay was a black mark to the rest of the world based on some of the anti-American tactics we employed there and closing it was a good idea. Should there have been a better plan as to how to do it? Sure, maybe, but I don't get paid to make that decision, nor do I have all the facts that the President and his people have. The economy?! Really, do I really have to explain to you how the economy works? We ALL knew that things were going to get worse before they got better. Every expert expected that we wouldn't see a serious turnaround until mid-to-late 2010, it takes time, and he's only been in a year!! It must be real nice to sit in your little box and complain about someone that is trying to do something to help this country, while you yourself do nothing - but talk with blinders on.
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  cosetteposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmm
  
  i don't think he has done anything impeachable (unlawful). that seems really over the top, actually.
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  Lady_Eposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Perfectly written... and I hope you'll be stepping in his shoes!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for your comment, no I will not be walking a mile in his shoes, nor would i ever want to. But he did and what is he going to do about it?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let me get this straight.......You want to impeach him so he will then take notice and straighten up?
  
  Hmppph. I simply want him impeached so that he'll resign or be ousted, period.
  I've been calling for that ever since he took office, because he spouted his agenda to "fundamentally change" America into something radically WRONG. And the fools in Congress are letting him get by with it.
  
  In my opinion, it's too late for Obama to change his positions toward doing the right thing for America. He needs to step down. All the Tea Parties and the other voices of reason have been ignored by him. Time for him to be FIRED. Let him then go home to Chicago, back to his gangster lifestyle. Oops I mean his OLD gangster lifestyle, not his new White House gangsterism.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Tea parties and other voices of reason?
  
  LMAO ROFL
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Love your View.
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  chigoiykeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Allow stuff to get over you man. Do you think Mccain will do better?/ Just allow stuff to get over you. Did you canvass for the impeachment of Bush during those hell days. Obama is trying, putting things in place and with time, you will feel the impact. Dont set the bar too high for him ok. He didn't make the economy the mess it is today(get me wrong if you like). The last line is, many will not do better in this condition. Just get over it
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  Writer Riderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, the person who should have been impeached was Bush (more than any other president). If we didn't get him, you can't have Obama. Sorry.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There are several president's that should have been impeached and have not and I understand the process now better than when i posted this Topic , how to impeach, the cost to impeach and the ground's of which impeahment is implemented.
  
  Im simply upset that here again another president who didn't do what he said he would do during his campaigning. Obama was voted in because he was real good at taking the vulnerablities of the people and using it to his benefit to make promises he had no intention of keeping. He had his own agenda that he didn't let anyone know about. Big Government, if the people knew his agenda, he would not have been voted in office although he only won by 5 votes.The last president that tried Big Government failed and Obama is trying it again, why will it work now and it didn't work in prior administrations? You know what, This is what happens when the people of america don't have work, and are angry because they might loose everything they worked all their lives for. You will have, such as Hubpages and the like, many rantings on the president's progress or lack there of . Nothing personal just a bunch of angry americans.
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  cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Obama is a Distraction,someone we can focus our frustrations on.
  Find out who has there hand up his ass and you will understand why the world is the way it is.
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  Writer Riderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That may be true.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Now you're talking. Best the right group be tared and feathered.
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  Abe Normalposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's only because he is.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We agree.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's only because it is.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bolton is a warmongering neocon asshole.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is not correct.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That settles it little doggie.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Think you could do without the insults?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  pot/kettle
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it is. Bolton is one of the neocons who supported our foolish, unnecessary, costly invasion of Iraq. Lately he's been advocating bombing of Iran by U.S. or Israel. He went a long way toward destroying respect for the U.S. around the world when he was ambassador to the United Nations, as one of Bush's many incompetent appointees. Chew on that mangey little opinionated doggie.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think you could do without the insults?
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why don't you go and chase your tail or pick fleas?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have something against tails?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Our invasion of Iraq was not foolish or unnecessary, and bombing Iran may well turn out to be entirely necessary.
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  sdmairsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  This opinion is based on what cherry-picked intelligence analysis or regional study? OIC, you heard it on a radio talk show. Well then it MUST be true.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Based on my reading of the situation.
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Impeachment can not like anything, what crimes has Obama committed. The people that should be Impeached are the criminals fabricated a lie to go to war. If Obama should face impeachment his only crime would be protecting crimes like Bush.
  The promises of transparency LOL any one thinks that America society can be
  transparent is living in story book land.
  These terrorist were trained by America and some were trained in America they were not trained in Cuba. This is the chickens coming home to roost, the Obamas will need than two terms to clear up Bush's mess. What it would take is four terms, I only hope Michelle will step forward, Michelle Obama the first woman President and a BLACK one at that.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No racist emotions there huh? Is your racist ideas emotional or logical?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The fact that OBAMA promised Full Transparency is the funny part. Not the fact that i restated what he promised.
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Full Transparency should mean that, the photos of mentally disturbed American servicemen abusing Iraqis, be made public.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol Why, to make people criticize Bush more to take attention off how bad Obama is doing?
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  SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Back to the issue...
  
  Obama is a tool just like every other president since the inception of the Federal Reserve...and in some aspects, many before even that.
  I am sure he was sincere about his campaign promises...there just weren't enough others willing to change their ways that would support him in doing the big things that needed to be done to oust the elitists that run the world economy/governments...so he was bought out like all the rest...enticed by money, pride, and popularity...it's disgusting.
  Patriots rising to honor the Constitution are our only hope to save the sanctity of our 4 sacred freedoms.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I hate to say it, but this sounds about right
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah Palin
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  vrajavalaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  there is an other method, called "quo warranto" that can be used to remove him. You see, he has the majority in the House and Senate. The Democrats won't impeach him. "Quo warranto" means "by whose authority" do you sit in office? He was never eligible for office. he even stated on his website, fightthesmears that he was born a British subject.
  So this is how he will be removed, and, BTW, none of the sllly laws that he signed will be legal. In fact, his name will b we completely erased as ever having been a President, because he is a "Usurper".
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh brother! Your source of information needs attention.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah Palin
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  Deidra26posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wow! I see you made your point. I hear your complaints and dismay with the current president, but am uncertain of what else could be done to make the immediate situation any better. Let's be honest he has not been in office for a year as yet so i think this conversation is a bit premature! I think he mentioned that Afgahnistan is the war to fight- he appears to be taking that up. I see that healthcare has advanced this year that any previous times; I see the stock market not declining as rapidly as a year ago- mark it, the unemployment figure is high but generally in a recession it is the last thing to show real changes. The reality is that changes require patience-the problems this country is facing have been decades in the making.Furthermore, the President may not have that much power because after all he still needs to depend on congress to enact laws- am certain you do know how the process works, right? Some pressure should be placed on Congress to do more work...
  
  I think President Bush was given two terms- i am not certain i heard too much conversation about impeaching him. This President was handed the whole mess-a collapsed economy; unemployment on the rise; the disparity between rich and poor; social inequality etc. It does take time and he cannot correct decades of mess in less than a year. There is an election in 2012- if you feel like nothing has changed and things have gotten worse you know what to do! I do not agree with everything this President does, but i think credit should be given where it is due. After all, he did sign that equal pay act; a new legislation that make certain crimes against gay crimal; the economy actually grew 2% recently; unemployment reduced slightly; stock market has stabilized; etc. Now, what exactly could be done to improve the conditions without actual spending? I am almost 100% certain that tax cuts will not cover things like- the military; hurricanes- for natural disasters; things that majority of the public actually rely on the government for. Why not ask the opposition party what's their plan for the future? What would they do differently? What exactly has this President done that is outrageous and warrants an impeachment after being sworn in office i believe on January 20th? Why is it that this President is expected to have fulfilled all the promises made in a campaign- wasn't he elected for like 4 years?
  
  The troubles of a country whether it be social, economical, political or otherwise is hardly ever made in a day, month or year- usually decades! The problems are only now visible so time and patience are critical. People have power- that is, voice their concerns and vote- no change or improvement then you elect someone whom you think will fulfill your expectations faster...
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was constant, and accompanied by further nonsense about arresting him and such.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The new mantra of followers of The Obama, "Yes we can! - Give him time!"
  
  I never get an answer as to when it is ok to hold him accountable.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So far he hasn't lied to get us into a war. He hasn't authorized torture or illegal wiretaps....
  
  You're right. He's pretty worthless.
  
  Bunch of frickin Sarahs.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why didn't you hold Bush accountable? That's really what confuses me. He gets you into a trillion dollar debt and you turn the other cheek - what's that about?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who says I didn't?
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I find it funny how anyone that loves Obama always uses Bush to try to make them feel better about Obama. Is this logical to you?
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, that wasn't used to 'make [Jewels] feel better about Obama'. I'm pretty sure most of us realize that he isn't doing as terrible of a job as most conservatives believe he is. He's simply dealing with a shattered wartime economy created by... BUSH.
  
  In this case, though I think it was more to make a point.
  
  Hypocrisy is all too common.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol Are you on the left as well? What things do you agree with Obama on so far? Who taught you what all the conservatives believe and that they all believe the same thing?
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Conservatives just don't get it, and that's a term the choose very often. What they forget to say is that they hijacked a socialist slogan from: http://twitter.com/ispear Things was perfect during the Bush Presidency a booming economy, with the lowest unemployment figures and the best GDP in resent history. When Obama took office, he inherited the strongest economy in the world. The housing market was also booming and the banks were in its healthiest state. I have been won over by the conservatives argument LOL
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's more in response to how people can't understand the amount of work it would take to undo the mess the USA is in. Obama, or any government for that matter, is expected to fix the mess in 5 minutes. That's what I find ridiculous. We the people of America seem to have lost some sense of perspective on how hard it is going to be to save America. Impeachment? Bush is who needed to be impeached over Haliburton. Conflicts of interest within a government administration are cause for dismissal. Disturbing.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Conflicts of interest are cause for dismissal? No its not! Its been more than 5 minutes since the Obamagod was inaugurated and he has made things worse! How after knowing this fact can you believe he can make it better?
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  well why isn't it cause for dismissal? You guys allow your government to piss in their own pockets and sleep with corporate America, at your expense. What kind of people are you?
  
  Of course it's going to get worse. And you guys hate change, as do most people. You think you can click your fingers and make the problems go away. Where is your common sense?
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The writing was already on the wall years ago. You were going to take a huge nosedive and voila. It's not Obama who can save you. Y'all need an attitude adjustment. Now go to your room and clean it up.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "YES WE CAN!" "GIVE HIM TIME!" "BUT HOW LONG?" "WE WON'T SAY!!!"
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A trillion dollar debt is a lot to fix. How long do you think it should take tk?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You tell me. You're the one saying we shouldn't rush the poor dear.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But now that its 2.5 Trillion he will have to be in office for 20 years to fix it, wait, that will make it harder to fix it!
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Totally. Wonder who the next sucker will be? Perhaps it's not the government that needs fixing. Maybe it's, it's, it's??????????? Maybe it's not fixable. Jump ship before you all drown.
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A trillion dollar debt is a lot to fix, you are right. If that can't fix it!!!! That's one hell of a mess created by Bush
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If he can't improve the economy he shouldn't have said he could. If he says he can, he'd better damn well get to it.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think he's getting to hit. He had a big pile of crap to wade through first. Not sure he's found the bottom. Maybe when Sarah gets in she can use her book profits to make a debt reduction for you guys.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Where?
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Didn't his campaign encompass Americans as a whole. The WE, included you guys too?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who is "you guys"?
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You tk, the American citizen, WE THE PEOPLE! "I pledge allegiance to the flag" and all that.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok, and?
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And? What?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah Palin
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think those two words sums up so much of the innefectiveness of the Republican Right Wing has had in giving the American people a real candidate. I think your short but sweet use of it is so succinct and hilarious
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They will be in the wilderness for quite some time.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not talking time limits, you guys are the ones with that problem. You seem to have lost perspective. It's not like it's simple credit care debt you've got there! Have you stopped shopping at Walmart yet?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am. How long until we can hold The Obama accountable?
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah...........Sarah...........Sarah............
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fishtiger58posted 14 years ago
Well said.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What do you think about putting together an impeachment petition to get him out of office?
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yawn. If he invades Iraq, and gives all the contracts to his vice-president, if he ignores subpoenas, if he tells Americans Saddam Hussein caused the World Trade Center attacks when Saddam was himself a target of al Qaeda, then you can do it. Otherwise, well, yaawwn.
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'd sign it !!!!
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sneakorocksolidposted 14 years ago
Did you vote for him?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I certainly DID NOT vote for Barack Hussein Obama
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  TK Clone
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nah. Too verbal (such that it is). hahaha.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is clearly him. The number of hubs is a clue.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What is a TK Clone?
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio, er, WeStand...
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're my Hero! I love you!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Going Gay?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hardly
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please give up this old, hackneyed, trick of including Obama's middle name as if to imply he is a Muslim, and as if to imply that being a Muslim is automatically bad anyway.
  
  Yes, presumably his Dad was a Muslim, or something, or else why else would he have the name. So what. You insult the hundreds of thousands of American-born American citizens who are Muslim every time you do: stop it; it is rude, and it is disrespectful of the principle that all American citizens are deserving of respect no matter what their background. Doesn't America stand up for freedom, including the freedom to be any damn religion yu want: or would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do? You spit on America's tradition of giving people the right to live their lives however they want, every time you do this.
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Where does it say that? I never read anything like that. Does that apply to gays and illegals too?
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Beats me. I'm not American. I just figured that, as the world's first "true" democracy, you would have a tradition whereby all people were deserving of respect. Are you seriously debating this? I've lived in three (other) democracies, and this is a basic principle in all of those -- you can't really be saying it's not a founding principle of the U.S... surely...
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  sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, but we don't actually do that. We have much more fun disrespecting each other and nobody likes liberals anyway. When they quit bathing to save water and to protect the Greater Creek Minnow. It became hard to respect someone that smelled like that. You know what I mean? (No I'm a butthead:))
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bathing is for suckers
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please give up this old, hackneyed, trick of including Obama's middle name as if to imply he is a Muslim, and as if to imply that being a Muslim is automatically bad anyway.
  
  Yes, presumably his Dad was a Muslim, or something, or else why else would he have the name. So what. You insult the hundreds of thousands of American-born American citizens who are Muslim every time you do: stop it; it is rude, and it is disrespectful of the principle that all American citizens are deserving of respect no matter what their background. Doesn't America stand up for freedom, including the freedom to be any damn religion yu want: or would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do? You spit on America's tradition of giving people the right to live their lives however they want, every time you do this.
  
  I am simply stating the mans full name , i am not racist in any way. I am simply stating that his actions would lead one to believe that he has some muslim beliefs that don't interact well w/ what this country was founded. Freedom. Everytime, anyone talks ill of the president they play the race card, because it is easy, instead of accepting that he is screwing up the country worse than it already was. He proposed many things that would have improved our economy, but none of those promises were kept, that has nothing to w/ race , creed or color , it has to do w/ his own personal agenda. he is the only one w/ that knowledge God Bless this Country , and keep us safe from this president. He is intentionally ruining our country.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well Islam is not a race, but I get the general idea. And overall it is true that saying any criticism of Obama is racism is just silly. And dangerous: it is essential to criticize the president, as I said above (be nice if the media did a bit more of it with Bush -- probably the US media is being too soft on Obama too now - perhaps the news media is just too soft in general: you should see the BBC attack dogs going for it, by contrast.)
  
  It is also true that a president's religion may influence him. Bush wouldn't go for stem cell research; perhaps that is an infringement of people's liberties who could benefit from the stem cell research. Obama seems to have been a Christian (I mean, he went/goes to church; I don't know too many Muslims who do that...). So it is relevant what a president's religion is, and it could lead to infringement of freedoms, it's true.
  
  However, I am completely mystified about this suggestion that your freedoms are at risk under Obama. I mean, maybe he's making a pig's ear of the economy, maybe he's not (I certainly don't see much new regulation of the SOBS on Wall St. who messed it up, for example). But taking away freedoms? Don't get you, I am afraid
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  kateperezposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just slightly curious: How many times did George W. Bush get called dubya? Isn't that a bit condescending and to imply he was a hick?
  
  Obama is or is not Muslim. Does not matter. What does matter is that he is not what I perceived him to be. No, I did not vote for him, but I knew in October of last year that he was going to be elected. It was obvious. Even when my 5 year old kindergarten grandson voted in school, he voted for Obama. "Why?" I asked him. His reply was that he knew who he was.
  
  I do believe that he was elected because people knew who he was and not for his promises. However, in good faith, I thought to give him a chance. Every time I hear about problems it is finger pointing. Every time I hear about transparency it seems to be giving us transparent info of the old administration, and I believe our author is right. He is OUR employee. We should know what he is doing when it comes to our money, and every dime in the government till is your money and mine (and China's). I have the right to decide how my money is being spent. Don't you agree? Would you let your bank take thousands of dollars out of your bank account and go buy a house for some poor people who are illegal imigrants and tell you it's your duty and the imigrants' right? Do you not agree that there has to be better checks and balances?
  
  I just want something done that is popular, like stuffing this healthcare reform bill down the basin and really do reform, something we can all agree on. Heck, there's facebook and twitter, they can ask us for ideas. We have them. Then they get some clerk to tally up all the ideas and the 10 best and most popular become the bill.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah Palin
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You hit that Nail on the head! Good Job! FYI, the profile pic, i used represents the generation that will inherit the debt that is racking up daily
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  nekros729posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I see Islam as something similar to the old Catholic church. Most Muslims are well meaning, and the big guys in control often feed them lies. This does not change the fact that the Koran teaches violence that is quite unacceptable. Muslims in middle eastern countries are very family oriented people and many missionaries say they feel safer in places like Jordan and Israel than the USA. There are of course always exceptions within the nations. Islam the religion, I am strongly against, the people, not at all. As we are talking about Obama. There is more and more evidence that he is Muslim. The part that bothers me is not that he is a Muslim, but that he concealed it and said he was a Christian during his campain(He didn't even go to a nice church lol).
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Great post. I can't believe some people still stoop to using Obama's middle name as an insult.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol Skip right over mine. I understand.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You don't understand diddly-squat. I simply didn't get to your post yet. Sorry, but you're not a priority.
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No need to be alarmed at the inclusion of Obama's middle by the Christian Conservative Republicans. As a man of colour he is a God, and greater than Jesus that is supposed to, make miracles happen. Taking them serious is not something anyone should do. Many of them are driven by so much hate, if you notice many are loosing sleep. I sleep, wake and do other things, and they are still hubbing LOL. They have no policies to offer nor a way out of the problems created by Bush in his two terms in office. As a black person nor matter what job you do, from Broom Technician to President, you have to work ten times as hard. What a great white woman that educate her child to sit in such a great office. My greatest RESPECT
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you hate me because I am white?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And I can't believe some people are trying to make someone's actual name off limits.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't see anyone doing that. I only see people pointing out that it's wrong to use it to insult him, Muslims and every person with common sense.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol you don't see anything you don't want to see. Only what your faithful eye's choose to see. Believe!
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yawn. Look in the mirror.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And everytime someone uses his full name that is the cry, hence my comment.
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  Sara Tonynposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So people are wrong point out that it's insulting? But it's okay to continue the insult?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What insult? It's his name.
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  pylos26posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  shucks...
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  aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "would you prefer a totalitarian system that tells people what to do?"
  
  Errr.... surely if your President is a Muslim with an agenda, or if in any case the Muslims gain control of your country, you would have a 'totalitarian system that tells people what to do' indeed from reading the homeland security act you already have the foundation for such a state.
  
  No matter how liberal someone is, it's impossible to deny that for good or bad you have a war being raged against MUSLIM fanatics and there are more than a few of them, even in your own military as recently demonstrated.
  
  Does anybody feel threatened by Christians, or the Buddhists, or Hindus', Jews or indeed any other religion?
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  Siotoshposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The war is not about Muslim fanatics, it's about two families that drag the world into their their dispute The Christian and Muslim Mafia. Religion is not a threat, if a person wants to believe God is a Stone, that's up to them. That also goes to anyone that choose not to believe. You can not impose you way of life on to others whether you call it democracy or Christianity.
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  lizistantonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To use Mr. Obama's middle name is not a trick. It is his name. If it has connotations, so be it. What kind of politically correct nonsense requires that we abjure use of someone's name? It is insane. Stop political correctness. If I don't like what you say, it is my right and obligation to inform you. If you don't like what I say, the tables are turned and you are obligated to inform me. There is also the option of ignoring what is too trivial to address.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Damn, and you had a fan for a few minutes. Did Sarah Palin become YOUR ghost writer?
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  sandra rinckposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You mean Obama BinLaden. I wouldn't be surprised in Obama is BinLaden. Now wouldn't that be some shite!
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You Tube Video - Is Obama really Osama bin Laden-
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcxhcMyn8rU
  Very Kewl vid !!! hehehe
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Wow! Nothing like scientific evidence. And the music was great, too!
  Thanks, MOM!
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AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years ago
It's good, and important, to be critical of the president, whoever he is -- you should always criticize all of your politicians mercilessly: it is your job as a citizen.

Hyperinflation leading to World War three... Ooookkkaaaaay...

You can't go impeaching the president after just one year, and for doing a generally bad job: they all do a bad job, frankly; who ever heard of a president who didn't screw up -- has never happened.

Of course, sometimes a president accumulates, over eight years, such an immensely gigantic mess of a legacy that perhaps he reaches the watermark whereby impeachment really seems sensible as an option... can't think of any presidents like that in recent memory of course ;-)
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah understandably so, but is it right for children to go around blaming their parents because they are too lazy to get a job, do drugs and amount to nothing meanwhile the parents who were good parents that took care of teaching self respect, morals and the like are looking at each other in awe. Yet Children still play to blame game. We are where we are and blaming prior presidents for the current issues at hand will get us no where. president Obama said while campaigning, he was gonna fix it all, I see none of that all i see is a meglomaniac looking to seek another 4 years in office to completely take away the freedoms WE ALL ENJOY.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Indeed I partially agree; in fact it might be argued that Clinton kicked off this whole financial mess, not Bush (not that Bush fixed it). I was talking about the mess in Iraq.
  
  (I don't agree with the "taking away freedoms" part. That is absurd. Please; have more respect for the American soil that grants you freedoms that make so much of the world jealous; your freedoms are going nowhere)
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I believe that Obama's agenda is to try to take away our Freedoms and make us a communist /marcist or the like country. Why else would he be apologizing to the world even though we have help many countries countless times. For what do we have to apologize for , kind of a contradiction don't you think
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Also, I believe Clinton Started the housing collapse by mandating that everyone own a home no matter if they can afford it. it is the american dream yadayadayada, yes it is , but a down payment of some sort should have been mandated or ownership of the land.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who is he apologising to - not with you; I never heard him apologise.
  
  The day America becomes Marxist I'll eat all of my hats with ketchup. If that is what keeps you up at night, get some new worries. America is the last place on earth that will ever go Communist. The very idea...
  
  As to Clinton starting it all, I think we can agree that Clinton started it, Bush continued it, and Obama is still letting the foxes run the henhouse: a bipartisan effort...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You seriously haven't heard him aplogize to Europe, China, The Middle East etc?
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  Jawa Lunkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hahaha...I'm not a lover of either party, but the whole "It's only bad 'cause the last guy" thing really has played itself out LOL
  
  It's like when you call a plumber to come fix your pipes, and no matter who you get they all say the same thing.."I don't know who worked on this last, but they didn't know what the hell they were doing."
  
  LOL
  
  Part of becoming president is accepting the responsability for whatever state the country is in...that's why you're running.
  
  Blaming the last guy is redundant simply becuase they complained about the last guy all through thier campaign, so it's not like they didn't know what they were getting into.
  
  Anyway, it was the last presidents fault, he inherited the problems from the previous, and so on...I say we blame who is really at fault here...
  
  Washington, you jerk!
  
  Now I have to get back to building Robo-pres 5000 so he will be ready for unveiling at the next elections.
  
  Just in time for me to take over the ... I mean in time for us to vote for a good president.
  
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Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago
Sarah Palin
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hahaha. Endless here lately.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You Got that Right.
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There was never any doubt, was there Ron?
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  Ghost32posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Twice elected President of the United States of America, in 2012 and 2016....
  
  Source: FHGP, (Future History Guaranteed Predictions), Presidential Series.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Stop that nonsense Ron. Her turn will come soon enough.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What is that suppose to mean?
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Crazdwriterposted 14 years ago
this would have been better as a hub...I don't read long posts like this sorry
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Simply put, I am afraid of our country loosing it's freedom, because a president claimed while campaigning he was gonna change things for the better and he has done nothing but blame Pres. Bush and hasn't done anything to fix the problem. If he were an employee, he would have been fired. I am trying to file a petition to impeach this president
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But "freedom" ? -- I don't get the connection
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As i clarified below approx 13 minutes ago. Big Government means we work for them they don't work for us. I don't want to have the freedoms our forefathers fought for taken away from us, pres. Obama has proven that he cares ZERO what we think about what he does. That is not what he claimed while campaigning , I understand president and lawyers lie, But the economy is so delicate and he his putting us in more debt w/ other countries that we cannot pay back, the only way he can pay it back is to make the people of america pay higher taxes.
  
  That is why i say he is ruining our country rather than fixing the problem and eventually our freedoms will be taken away, because we will be doing as the government says, paying what the government says, getting paid what the government says, on and on and on.
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  sdmairsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Does it seem like the sky is falling too? I think it wise to question the value of any contributor who sees everything an administration does as wrong. At some point we're probably just looking at a good old-fashioned sore loser.
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  Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Facts are facts. Millions of people have lost their job this year. His policies are flawed, because they rest in ideology rather than pragmatism. Solving our problems does not require one to socialize by taking over businesses, borrowing huge amounts of money and attempting to take over health care. These are facts and his party affiliation means nothing, his ideology is scary, scarier yet is his blind determination to push it ahead.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was not Obama policy that sent America broke. It was not Obama that lost jobs. There are would be hard working people out there and that has naught to do with Obama. You really believe free health care and social housing will have a negative impact?
  
  Get real. Jump off the bandwagon, its losing gas.
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  Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  His policies not only perpetuate our situation, his ideology threatens to end this country as we have known it, socialism is not an american value
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Too bad for you. He is in power.
  
  American capitalism is a joke. 'American value'? What trash. America voted for Obama. For the dominant world power to not even look after its own people with basic health care and housing, a joke. Where is the value in that?
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  Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Too bad for all of us
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Definately
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol How is capitalism a joke? Are you serious? Capitalism is freedom. I don't think you understand this.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I understand just fine. Look around you. How can you claim freedom but live amongst people with no choice? No choice to live in shelter. No choice to work. No choice to heal the sick. But you are also a Christian nation. A joke. A sick f546in joke.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Who has no choice? The choices are taken by the government you so much agree with to limit capitalism. The government you so much agree with is the one taking the jobs. How much stimulus money have you seen going to homeless shelters?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You can't claim free-market capitalism and blame the government. Don't you get it. How was the free-market going to stand up? The private banks ARE your free market. The private banks BROUGHT YOUR COUNTRY TO ITS KNEES. THE FREE MARKET IS BORROWING MONEY FROM YOUR SOCIALIST GOVERNMENT SHOULD I S P E L L I T O U T F O R Y O U!!!!???
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  alexandriaruthkposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  HMMMM
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Capitalism is how we became one of the free and richest contries in the world. I never said that we weren't our own destruction at times. Obama is not the free market, should I spell it out for you?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't bother.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I never said I agree with any government.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Thanks, now you make no sense. You are for government limiting capitalism, yet now you say you don't agree with government. Are you drinking?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It seems you may not understand what the word "choice" means in this context.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, it's not.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I disagree. Obama is screwing up the free market. To stimulate the economy, you create a free market, not a government controlled market. With the historical stimulus, he could have given tax cuts to individuals and small businesses to generate more jobs. Instead, he invested the money in losing companies.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The free market screwed itself.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is not correct.
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  sdmairsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Facts are facts but distorted facts are not. Millions have lost their jobs during this AND in the previous administration. Why did we have a financial collapse? Oh yea, that’s right… because of the anti-regulation policies of the previous administration. How quickly (and conveniently) we forget.
  
  Obama’s policies are imperfect and therefore flawed but every administration’s policies are imperfect. So what is your point? Do you really think the previous administration’s policies were based any LESS on ideology? Doesn’t your whole argument amount to opening up a big ol’ can of ‘waaaaaaah’ for all it’s worth in correcting the course we’re on?
  
  I’ll give you a couple of REAL facts: both Regan and Dubyah borrowed huge amounts of money. To quote then Democratic Vice-Presidential candidate Lloyd Benson, “You let me write couple billion dollars worth of bad checks and I can create the illusion of prosperity too.”
  
  Attempting to take over health care? What a bunch of hogwash. Do you really believe those nice health insurance executives have the American people’s best interests in mind? Wake up and smell the coffee. American manufacturers will be better able to compete with foreign companies when we level the playing field on per-unit health care costs. If you believe the insurance giants don’t already operate what amounts to ‘death panels’ then you’re one of the lucky minority who never had a close friend or family member who was denied coverage for a major illness.
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  marinealways24posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Um...did Reagan give tax breaks to help the free market when he got the stimulus or did he do as Obama and buy up companies to increase government power?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is not correct
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A goal they've been after for decades.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  On what legal charge (oral sex in the Oval Office perhaps? Smoking behind the White House, maybe?)
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your country lost it's freedom many decades ago. You don't even know you are not free. Ignorance and complacency by the people will be your downfall. Stop blaming your current president and take a long hard look at yourself as a person.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Jewels, YOUR COUNTRY IS AWESOME! I'm so moving over there (thank god my gf was born there and has family there, it'll be easy).
  
  P.S. Hi!
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hello friend. You're going to start a migrating frenzy. You're holiday over already? It's an easy place to love and the health care is so much better! LOL.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  http://www.ahmrc.org.au/AboriginalHealthInformation.htm
  
  http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/second … nd-canada/
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The health care system tk! One of the major problems with Aboriginal health is the Social Welfare system has mothered them to death, in such a way they have lost any semblance of self esteem. Throwing money at a problem doesn't change the problem. Even in Australia you have welfare people justifying their existence and getting it wrong.
  
  Regardless of the health of Australian's, including our native friends, the health care system itself far outshines the one in your country and this is what I was referring to.
  
  We have one of the highest life expectancies in the world. The USA has a downward arrow in that area.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, that couldn't be as important as making a political statement...
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Way to respond to the actual comments.... Typical conservative behavior.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Typical blanket political prejudice.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good thing I wasn't mocking conservatives for using the same tactics, or anything of the sort... TYPICAL LIBERAL!
  
  Typical blanket political prejudice.
  
  P.S. I've become a fan of using ridiculous conservative tactics against them. It is ironic, and funny!
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Really? It seemed as if you were.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, interesting.
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  Jewelsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, he sort of swerved off track. Not sure what it's achieved. Anyhow, onward............
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Got that right
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yea, but it's OK. I will definitely be back. I fell in love with Sydney. Melbourne was amazing too, but Sydney was incredible. I'm back to work . My gfs family got check ups while they were over there, haha.
  
  Hey TK, just so you know... the majority of aboriginals over there are heavy drug users. Not all of them, of course, but MANY of them are (like indians were alcoholics back in the old west days). Thanks for googling that article, though.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Something else many liberals are in favor of, right?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To which country are you referring?
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  sdmairsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with "complacency by the people will be your downfall". People don't really learn about the important issues; preferring instead to have their information spoon-fed by blow-hards on newstertainment programs. This is understandable though cuz it frees up lots more time for shopping. Folks have abdicated their citizenship for the much more fun role of consumers. Go ahead - shop till you drop but don't blame me next time some nincompoop gets elected just cuz he talks like your buddies down at the local watering hole!
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
I think you should lose that avatar. It is not a nice one at all. Her cheek is hanging out. hmmm
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is my daughter, when she was 3. She is enjoying the freedom of going to the beach w/ her family. The pic was posted as to make a point , that the future of our grandchildren may not look so rosy.
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Randy Godwinposted 14 years ago
Who's we?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We the people of America
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm an American and I don't recall asking you to speak for me.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The majority of American's how is that, too offensive for you. I guess you don't enjoy freedom. Sorry for including you my mistake won't happen again. It is alot easier to say we than to type every race creed color religion or political status. So I said We. I guess your fine living w / Big government paying alot of taxes and giving the future generations a pile of debt.
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  Poppa Bluesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have come to the conclusion that a number of Americans have become complacent. They are more than willing to let the government provide for their needs even if that means turning over their paychecks to pay for it. It frees them from the worry of having to compete. Let's face it, wouldn't we all like to stay children forever, living home with Mom and Dad. Yes, these people have become the Democrat party, a group that wishes to convert America into a socialistic society ruled by a benevolent government that knows what's best for us all. It is not the enemy without that freedom loving people need to be concerned about, it is the enemies from within!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I believe many have but the majority rules against it. As i do. I am self employed out of work contractor living from one measly paycheck to another because banks won't lend money to homeowner for repairs and such. The Pres. Said that is what the bail outs would entail, I have seen the contrary. Children that live w/ Mom and Dad do venture on into their own life willingly to gain the freedoms in which we all enjoy, everynow and again it is nice for the kids to come home for some nuturing, but not to live. The enemy within, mmmm well, your right everyone has one, it is our decision how to live w/ those enemies and conduct ourselves accordingly, people do what they need to do based on any given situation and that includes what is going on in the white house.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  if you're an american, then you have a right to get up on your soapbox, no matter how unstable it is.
  
  if you're not an american, get off your unstable soapbox.
  
  if you are an american, people will take your rants and ravings more seriously, only a little, by using correct spelling and grammar.
  
  if you're not an american, then a certain amount of forgiveness is in order for that lack of correct spelling and grammar.
  
  if you are an american, go back to grade school and learn english.
  
  if you are currently in grade school, pay attention to what your teacher is trying to get through your mushy skull.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Typographical errors happen during the typing of a blog you feel passionately about, to sit and check spelling to make a point is a little redundent. If all you have to comment on are the errors in grammar and spelling than thanks for the compliment. I am an American, and I am a scared American, What are you , some comfortable man sitting back in the house in which he owns, w/ no worries about the economy kids all grown up if you have them going out to fish in his back yard? Living off of his retirement? I am so tired of people who have no worries making comments to people such as myself based on the fact they have nothing to worry about, not a care in the world so who cares about anyone else right?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Another thing President Obama Promised to Repair the School Systems, The teachers don't really care if the students learn anything, when they are getting paid pourly. I know I had to teach myself, by reading, going to college and the like.
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  prettydarkhorseposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  oh, you do really care, but sometimes, when you get emotional, you get carried away?
  
  and why judge other people whom you havent met at all?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Learn what? Did you mean "If you are an American," and "learn English"?
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  Himitsu Shugishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hilarious!!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But he did spell it right and had the correct punctuation...
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's a start...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Agreed!
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
This post is short on truth and long on being partisan.
The tiny minded use of Barry's miiddle name is an obvious attempt to demonize. What a sick country America is! Conspiracy theories about every president! You guys are not well!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I really don't care if his middle name is mary. I was clearly stating his name. It was not at all a judgement made against the man. Conspiracy theories, if you have read im simply staing the facts and the road in which our country is on.
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rebekahELLEposted 14 years ago
hmmm, this is a forum. read the rules. where do you people come from??
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WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years ago
For those who don't understand my concern. When the health care bill was enforced, the repulicans were locked out. The people of american had 24 hours to read over 1000 pages of a bill , and everything wasn't even included. There was no transparency. Big Government, which is what This administration wants, means control over the people, the media etc. that means socialism, nor more self employement, you do what the government says you do. They don't work for us we work for them, I am deathly afraid of that happening. i hope i clarified any questions you have.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Have you ever actually MET any real Americans? Do you know *any* that would fall for such a system. Never happen...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yes actually I have, and no they won't fall for such a system hence the impeachement act.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They won't fall for such a system anyway, so impeachment would be A HUGE waste of taxpayers' money; you know, large uses of tax revenues = Big Government, remember?
  
  Look, you folks have a fairly good system: give someone four years, if he f*s up then kick him out. Or kick out his party at the mid-terms. This is a good system, I mean, roughly...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why?
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Impeachment processes are very expensive, very lengthy/time-consuming, and distract everyone away from real problems (like economic problems, for example)
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wouldn't it at least wake up the president and make him realize that we are upset, the tea parties have done nothing, protests have done nothing he is ignoring us. Maybe if he feels impeachement is possible, he will start listening to our concerns.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ohh he knows... he's an expert (or his team is) on Social bookmarking sites, Web 2.0, and so on; I imagine the White House is reading this thread right now
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Im afraid 4 years will be too late to fix what is broken.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I thought the mid-terms were in a few months
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was referring to the presidency
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If either of the two houses are taken back by the Republicans, then you'll have a much better way to get Obama to stand up and take notice (not that I wish that, I'm just saying you already have a system to get at whoever is in power, without rattling on about impeachment. Remember Kenneth Starr? What a god-awful waste of time that was -- imagine what could've been accomplished with that energy...)
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you for understanding my plight
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  We survived Clinton for Eight Years! Thank Gowd Dubbya came and fixed it enough for us survive Barack Hussein Obama for four years.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And this is the point. Clinton was a mixed bag of tricks, so was Bush (though frankly Bush did things to make the jaw drop), Obama will doubtless also be a mix, but you have a system of checks and balances, and elections, in effect, every two years, plus you have states that counter-balance the federal system. I mean, stop worrying, for God's sake.
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  Friendlywordposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ok... I give up.
  You two please read a few of my hubs. WeStand4Freedom please read some of the political and religious forums before you post another question on the forum. Get to know the people here on HupPages. Especially me. Ignore Sneak, you'll love Texan, and beware of the TKSENSEI.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lalalaala. Thank GOWD, Friendly, .
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Everybody loves me,I'm lovable!
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  lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I love you Texan
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Love you too
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You know it would be nice if you KNEW what the problem was to begin with. Since you don't.....you keep on researching, maybe you can actually find out the truth, instead of being lead astray on some wild goose chase you have no hope of ever reaching your final destination.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, the "truth"! It's out there, Mulder...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Paranoid much?
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earnestshubposted 14 years ago
I suspect Obama wants the foxes out of the hen house very much, but he is not congress, he does not make decisions alone ever, as no government leader does.
Want Obama to get more done? Stop telling lies about him and trying to sabotage yourselves by concocting fairy tales about the presidency.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I confess to ignorance on much of this, 'tis true. It would have been nice to see some ball breaking, that's all.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I want the president to succeed , i would be stupid if i didn't but the path in which he is taking us down is one we will never see the end of, until one day a nuclear war and then it all won't matter anymore. There are not lies being told here, I am simply stating facts, politico.com, whitehouse.gov etc. Fairy tales, maybe the people in the fairy tales are the one's ignoring what the president is doint to this country simply because they don't want to be wrong in voting for him in the first place.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Evidence please.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do your homework, go the websites listed above the information is there.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Still not with you on the whole nuclear war thing; sorry.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Practically every country has nukes. We are in debt to many countries now. Some who don't like us very much. If we don't pay back those countries , who is to say they won't launch a nuclear attack
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Five or six countries have nuclear weapons (Israel - ally; UK - ally; France - ally; Russia - ally; China - ally; India - ally; Pakistan - ally). There are close to two hundred countries in the world.
  
  How will they get their money if they destroy you: bad for business.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is my point, first of all no one said they were smart in the business sense another is if they are not getting paid back the money lent then another world war will break, hence World War II
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes you are right; the Chinese (to whom the US owes by far the most money) are TERRIBLE business people -- we can all see that...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Just sarcasim, I know the chinese are far from stupid. But Remember Hiroshima? Why don't we learn from past mistake and stop making them. Here we are going the same thing all over again.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yep. Best thing you have written all night. We'd do well to focus on getting rid of these freakin' awful weapons. Too right.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Weapons are required, I am not liberal , extreme leftist etc. I believe in freedom for all. I am for Weapons and having license to to use them for protection yadayadayada- war needs weapons, all im saying is the next war will be nuclear
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Keeps 'em busy so they don't gnaw each others' arms off, . I think the petition is a worthwhile endeavor, thus.
  
  edit* American political humor, somewhat, earnest.
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  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your completely correct, yet he did in fact elect his cabinet to ensure his policies would pass w/o a hitch and lock republicans out of the health care bill debate to ensure it would pass the house. Doesn't soung right to me.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Political leaders everywhere always form their cabinet from supporters -- of course! Who wouldn't do that! I'd question their sanity if they didn't.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  True , but non experienced supporters that have no clue what they are doing?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  True , but non experienced supporters that have no clue what they are doing?
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donotfearposted 14 years ago
Oh boy, here we go again..... Get ready for the bashing coming from the left.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, we do it in special code now, . All done.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I really don't know where the bashing comes in, If it is factual it is not bashing.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bashing comes from all sides, as it should: this is the hallmark of a healthy democracy. When you hear no more debate, no more mud-slinging, start to worry.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is what is wrong with this country, there is no left right black white red or blue. This country is or about or should be about what is right or wrong. How bout that for democracy, What a concept. President Obama said that on his campaign as well yet we haven't seen that happen either.
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mikelongposted 14 years ago
For those who keep running amok afraid of Islam, I think you'd be best serve getting to know some Muslims first. I'm actually more concerned about having an Apocalypse believing person in office than anything else....

Anyone familiar with "Camp of the Saints"?

With this said...the President has not destroyed the economy...globalization is doing that. This is a process that transcendes presidents and parties. Free trade is only free to the money and goods-movers. For labor it is a path to bondage.

People who complain about deficits and spending seem to forget where that spending is continuing to go, and where 30,000, at least, more Americans will be going....and then remember the real lies that got us there...I wish this kind of passion against a corrupted, false leader existed a few years ago.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thumbs up to your first paragraph all the way.
  
  ...and the last sentence.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Unfortunetly we can wish in one hand and S!&? in the other, that is what we will end up with if all we do is wish. But yeah, definatley agreed, we need to have the president hear we are not happy w/ all the spending. He is not spending to help us he is spending to help Big Corp and ultimately own them too. What about Obama's Lie's Again, that is what politicians do. Yet here we all are trying to come to the same agreement our country is screwed up and something needs to be done about it.
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worried manposted 14 years ago
I think Goerge W Bush is one of the worst presidents we've ever had.Obama inherited several catastrophes,it's going to take some time to repair all the damage that W caused.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Obama is probably no saint, but you are right, Bush and, more specifically Cheney....! I mean, I normally think theories about the anti-Christ are a bit suspect, but after seeing Dick Cheney.... I mean, that guy was not your average, relatively corrupt politician: this man was heavy-duty baaaad news.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are We going to continue to cry over what has been done or are we going to fix it? Obama said hs was going to fix it, and he is doing exactly the opposite.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But, you're not posing any answer.....you are just complaining.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  BTW, I think one "fact" you might have wrong is the idea that someone doing a complex job automatically gets fired after a year of poor results; studies show it takes about eighteen months for an engineer, for example, to learn a new job. And of course teachers, doctors, etc., are not normally fired after a year of incompetence (come to think of it, I can think of tons of examples of this). How long was that GM CEO head of the company... bad example...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I would sufice to say it depends on what type of employment we are talking about, construction is different than the Ceo's , wall street etc. I am only complaining because I pose a possible solution and I all heard was complaining about past issue's past problems who's fault this whose fault that, how about trying to fix the problems at hand so the united states can get their SH!? together. I did not start complaining, i started w/ a possible solution and we don't have to start that rebuttal again, i understand it is way to expensive. All I do know is We are self employed probably going to loose our home due to unemployment, and bad economy just like Millions of others and nothing is being done about it , What is being done is massive spending on things we don't need. I do believe starting over as if you were 18 years old when you are almost 50 is grounds to get a little emotional don't you think? But I did get a job and am living paycheck to paycheck, don't know when i am going to loose my house, but i still hold my head high and have a smile on my face and thank GOD for what i do have. I just am afraid one day, if the BS continues people such as myself won't be able to walk around w/ a smile on their face and be thankful anymore because Big Government will take that away. So I hope you have a clearer picture of where i am going with my urgency
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My Gosh, If i had an answer I guess i should have run for president. But the President Did say he had an answer to this mess , and we have yet to see him fix it.
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Bibowenposted 14 years ago
I think Obama has earned an impeachment (more so than he earned a Nobel), but if the Congress would not remove a perjured Clinton, they won't remove an incompetent Obama. So, I don't think that discussions about "impeaching Obama" have any real practical value.

Efforts need to go toward raising money to expose corrupt organizations that support Obama's efforts (like ACORN). Also, emphasis needs to be given to what is going to happen to the economy as Obama dumps America's future into the black hole of government growth. In addition, the most articulate spokespeople that are challenging Obama's agenda need to be given attention and resources.

This will likely get Obama's party turned out of office in 2010.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes that Nobel thing was weird, it's true. But what I don't get about anti-Obama-ists is that, even though doubtless much of the criticism is right, Republicans do exactly the same things.
  
  I mean, is anyone going to tell me that government SHRANK under Bush? Reagan was in power for eight years, followed by Bush Senior. How come the government wasn't the size of a minnow after that? Was it? No, of oourse not; it was a giant bureaucratic monster, as usual.
  
  And as for corrupt fundraising, and so on, doubtless Obama was into that -- every president you've ever had has been into it, I'm sure; but to suggest Republican candidates are *less* corrupt: it's all very silly to me.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly your 100% right. I feel if Acorn is exposed even further, we will find out a little more of how a community organizer w/ little experience was elected president by only 5 votes, I wonder if those 5 votes were from people who were in fact alive?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  More than impeachement, I just want him to wake the F!/? up. and realize what he is doing to this country , i think he just has no clue and neither do the bozo's in his cabinet.
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  Paragliderposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You appear obsessed. You also seem to think that there are two types of people in America, comprising:
  1. Americans
  2. People who disagree with you
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lyricsingrayposted 14 years ago
I still love Texan xo
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  lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  still loving ya
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Okay people. This thread is completely way out of line. It is completely 100% ridiculous to think about impeaching a President this early into his administration. Yes, some things are not working as described to the pubic, but DO REALIZE the president can issue an order- it's morons below him who are NOT doing their job.

You can not layoff everything this Country has done in the past 200+ years worth of damage, on him. It's unfair and I'll have words with anyone who does dare try.

You- each one of YOU- are responsible for the mess in this damn Country- we call America. Damn it- understand it's not right that business strangles Congress, because business has too much pull. There are way too many businesses making things worse for people than there are making it better.

WAKE UP! This is morning news ladies and gentlemen. Get your sh&t straight and OPEN YOUR EYES and look at the atrocities committed in this damn country and stop looking for a place to lay the BLAME- if wasn't for your religion- YOU would not be placing blame on others for your own incompetance. It's the CITIZENS who have the power in this Country and it's the CITIZENS who should take it back.

BUT- before than can be done- you have to stop looking at from the wrong perspective or perceived notions that you think that you know what's wrong?

Well, guess again- YOU DON'T!

If you are not a business owner, then you can not see the WHOLE STORY, which means you're missing knowledge. If you don't know something, it hurts you. If you lack a certain knowledge, then that hurts your life too.

Get over yourself for once. Become a better human being yourself, before you DECIDE to JUDGE others.

It's pathetic what America has come to. Equality is a myth. It's simply an appearance of politics. It's a joke. The problem is that the citizens continue to take the garbage, and every election they elect another fool.

It is your DUTY as a citizen to BELIEVE in your candidate. NOT to take the lessor of two evils. If YOU are going to give up MY RIGHTS as a Citizen, I am going to have words with you. Because, YOU don't decide what happens in my life. I DO!

United Citizens for a cause is the threat that can oppose Government- So, are you going to be selfish and look at things your way and continue complaining OR Are you finally going to CHANGE your attitude?

I leave it to you to figure out.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, you make a great point that needs making, and that no-one has made: if more Americans stopped watching the Biggest Loser and worrying about Britney's next photo op, and realized that sitting by and watching the hatchet jobs your governments do to your country is seriously irresponsible, perhaps things could be better.
  
  I mean, this bailout business. Good grief! And Iraq? How could that have happened. Even if Saddam had weapons of mass destruction how the hell were they supposed to reach you, and why would he pick on a country with thousands of nuclear weapons to fight a war with?????
  
  Come on, in the history of the world, the thirty-odd countries that have Western democratic systems are far and away the most privileged people ever to have lived: squandering that is a disgrace, frankly. Give yourselves a good slap, stop going on about Obama, and start educating yourself about what it takes to be a citizen of the world's first democracy (at least since women and slaves have been given the vote.. ).
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well, I didn't impose my will on the topic, just to not make a point. The problem is getting people to WAKE UP about what's really important, and that is other human beings. This country is suppose to be a United Country, yet you walk down the street and you could be shot by a drive by shooter. We have security in this country, beyond Constitutional accord and severely needs to be cut back.
  
  We have too many businesses getting just enough people riled up to enforce new laws. This is pathetic that civil liberties can be sold so easily. America's foundation is on CIVIL RIGHTS - Our own individual right of choice. You let them take away your individual rights without a fight, you've apparently don't understand the meaning of life.
  
  It is sad, how businesses are ruining society, yet no one sees it. Business control everything.......I mean EVERYTHING! It is in every aspect of life, including corruption of Congressional Officials.
  
  So, what's next?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ah, good ol' "WAKE UP" again...
  
  WAKE UP = AGREE WITH ME, DAMMIT!
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Again, you still don't see what I am talking about. I don't need you to agree with me, but to take SELF-responsibility for your own action.
  
  Boy are you naturally this ignorant or do you work hard at it?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That's not a very nice thing to say.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't take it personally. Some people simply don't like you.
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  blue dogposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  careful there, ron. next thing you know you'll have all the fans of his super fanning alter ego in here.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, no alter-ego. Another silly conspiracy shot down.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!!!! Blaming Bush wasn't enough, now it's Washington's fault! Poor Obama!
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL! Now it's The Obama vs. EVERYONE ELSE!!!!
  
  When will the most reverend wright create for us the utopia we don't deserve?
  
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that how you read that?
  
  It shows how pathetic you are. You obviously are a woman without any intelligence, it's either that or you're man who doesn't think to highly of himself.
  
  Either way, I really don't care. However, since you've decided to take ONE piece of what I said and MOCK it like it something dumb, was your second mistake. Your first mistake what thinking that you could offer something to the subject.
  
  Just in case you MISS it the first time around- YOU are the problem. You subjective perspective and garbage nature. You call yourself a human being. You are insult to the race I call human.
  
  That fact that you would MOCK what I said at all- is pathetic.
  
  It's NOT everyone against Obama- IT IS Everyone against Government!
  
  Get your FACTS straight before you open your mouth. Just so we can prevent this from happening again.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I really have no idea where you are getting your" FACTS", but apparently you are talking from your own self consciense rather than fact, I am not Blaming Obama for the entire promblem America is in right now that WOULD BE STUPID, i am simply stating I am worried about what he currently doing to worsen the situation , to go off on someone that is only worried about America and its freedoms , clearly states you are a complete liberal, will alot of self importance. Don't even bother replying to this post because what you have to say has not intelligence within its rambling. All you share are your own mealy mouth feelings. Time to Grow UP. Ya Sooooooooooooo Funny. When our Economy is in the tank because of the PRESIDENT'S (S) THE OPERATIVE WORD, not just Obama. Obama stated he was gonna CHAAAAAANGE THE WORRRLDDDD" From what i see For the worse. This is the time Americans should stand up and fight for what we believe in and that is our freedom. If Obama continues on this path we will loose all of our freedoms including this blog forum. You think I m stupid no i just care about more than one person, All Americans or other nationalities that came to this country for freedom.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  BTW, I like the President as a person, I don't like the way he ignores the people of America and the promises he made ,that he knows if he did in fact do what he said would have helped the economy begin to get back on track, He is going in the opposite direction.
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  James Agbogunposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is very clear the kind of personal love you have for the President. You came in here just some ten hours ago only to shout: "Impeach him!"
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  BTW, I didn't say you were stupid, also, if you even read my full page blog, you would see im not stupid. Maybe you don't have the fact, stop pointing fingers and think about what is really going on. The finger pointing must stop, What is being done , what has been sign and pushed through office has no feelings, it is fact, Bail outs? FACT, no feeling or ideals just the facts and those 3 facts i just brought to attention alone are reason to be concerned. Not color, not bias, not liberal, left right or otherwise, just what is wrong and right. Is that stupid to you tooooo? Calling me stupid or unintelligent was definately incorrect. I am far from it. Perhaps it is the one calling the kettle black.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your problem is that you are not ATTACKING the underlying problem, but just a single person. And, that is just stupidity running rampant without paying attention or knowing all the facts.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And YOU know "all the facts"?
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  Himitsu Shugishaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Excellent post. I mean, I don't agree with calling the guy stupid, but not considering all the facts, absolutely.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't talk about what you don't know. Maybe it is your man who is ignorant hence your postings.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's obvious that you DO NOT have all the facts. Otherwise, you wouldn't be making this kind of noise.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wow, it seems no one has all the facts but YOU. Funny how that works...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you KNOW what the problem is?
  
  It is a lack of knowledge. Are you happy?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How can I be happy knowing I lack the superior knowledge you have, Mulder?
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's not a matter of a lack of knowledge, whether superior or not, isn't the case. Open your eyes and look around, maybe do a little investigation into the things happening and WHY they happen.
  
  It's not that I have a superior knowledge, per se, as you see it, because you love to debate or bait others by making ridiculous irrelevant statements, without offering any form of solution.
  
  I'm not claim any superior knowledge, as you claim. I am however, trying to get people to understand that there is more to it than it appears. I thought that was obvious.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
  That was just flat-out hilarious!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What are you talking about. You want socialism/communism big governement, Complaining? Look who is complaining. I have not seen one piece of factual evidence that you even have a clue as to what is really going on in this country. Go back into fantasy land and close the doors so you don't have to deal w/ people who really care about this country
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Cagsilposted 14 years ago
Don't bother responding.

I just going to leave you with the message I bring.
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  lyricsingrayposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Cag's
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shardlionposted 14 years ago
the problems i see in this mind set of what has the president done for the people, is simply this its been 1 year, you cant fix the economic debacle within one year. If you wish to fix the problem look at big corporations and not to the president. Tell your congressman about the problems you see get active and do something about it. The reason we face such a high unemployment rate is because these companys who received bail out continued to send jobs over seas.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree that is part of the problem, yet the government currently is spending money they don't have on pork barrell spending bank bailouts, when banks don't loan any one any money and no jobs have been created as of yet. Im simply upset that the people again believed in a president that said yet again they were going to fix the problems and have yet to so but make things worse.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you think the spending of unsecured funds is new. Inflation has caught up to the amounts. The Fed has been printing monopoly money for years and has done more than any institution to hurt the economy than anything in recent history. Why do you think they can lend money at 0% interest? Because the money is valueless. You have to look beyond Obama because a president can effect far less change then you give him credit for. Besides you have to account for the slime bags on the hill when calculating a measure of change.
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  shardlionposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To this statement i do say his stimulous did create jobs and infact i worked a job created by the package for the whole summer a so called shovel ready job. I was payed well for the work performed and considered it a worthwhile venture. As for the presidents lack of judgement the only thing i have to say to that is that he is doing what he thinks is best for the country within what he knows how to do, its not unlike so many presidents before him, The bush's for example father and son spent billions of dollars on wars that did nothing more than george junior cleaning up the mess his father made when he tried to oust the man we put into power in iraq. Look at nixon, look at clinton who allowed for companys to get a tax differemnt to send bussiness over seas. We as a people have become negligent to the abuse of power within the united states and only untill recently have we started to do something about it and blame one person mainly the president for the illgotten gains and loss' when the majority of the problem is the congressman allowing these things to happen our elected officials we have put into power who are lobbyists and are in someones pocket. I understand peoples concerns im concerned to but does our concern fall on deaf ears, I would have to say yes. You know if we all rose up together and said f this they would have to listen its our right as citizens.
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readytoescapeposted 14 years ago
Interestingly, this President is doing almost exactly what he said he would do during his campaign. Transform. It is why I did not vote for him, I heard what he was saying. If you were too blinded by the rock star image and tired old liberal mantra of Change to ignore exactly what the man was telling you he would do and what those of us that are part of the conservative persuasion were telling you, who is to blame?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  yeah is sure is changing for the worse. He has not fullfilled his promise on making sure unemployement rate didn't increase higher than 8.2% alot of his votes came from that promise. We were already in a recession especially after 9/11.
  He said he would stop the spending , he didn't, so really I don't know exactly what promise your talking about. He said Change not Transform. He said no tax increases, he also said he would create jobs. Now he is talking about redistributing the wealth of people who actually make an effort to work to the people who don't. Ths Rock Star didn't get me, I never liked his ideals nor did i vote for the man, I hoped when elected he was going to do some of the things he stated listed above, but he didn't , He is a meglomaniac looking for complete control. I don't think most americans want him to have it either.
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  readytoescapeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually he did say, "Transform". He used the liberal catch word "change" at the beginning of the campaign as "code" for the fundamental transformation of America. The word “transform was inserted into his speeches in the later portion of the campaign. See the below link.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvJJP9AYgqU
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prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago
how about those who voted for him and others who still believe in HIM?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I believe the president has some brains up there i wish he would use them, i really don't know what he is up to, as far as his main goal this presidency, but we have yet to see any plan of action. If you voted for him and still believe in him than you stand by your convictions, that is what you believe, ,I actually believe he can do better, I just wish he would before it is way too late.
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blue dogposted 14 years ago
the dawning of a new internet troll...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes Indeed
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I remember when some of them used to be amusing.
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AEvansposted 14 years ago
I wrote a hub filled with questions and have the same concerns , it is new and I am not going to publicize it but many hubbers are asking too!
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
You forgot to say "WAKE UP!"
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  WAKE UP = OPEN YOUR EYES!
  
  What part did you not understand?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How about "LOOK AROUND YOU!" or "THINK FOR YOURSELF!"? Those are good ones too.
  
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you trying to be difficult on purpose or do you simply refuse to read the words as they are and NOT manipulate them?
  
  You are ridiculous. Yes, I want to you think for yourself, but apparently you can't seem to make up your own damn mind on figuring out what's best, nevermind for yourself, but for society. When you can 'wrap' your mind around the concept, please do let me know.
  
  It's obvious, that you refuse to understand written words and it is also obvious that you like to poke and fun at other people. So, you can amuse yourself.
  
  Again, that makes you sad and a poor excuse of a human being.
  
  If you happen to take my words as an insult- it is because that's what you are use to? And, refuse to look at life in a positive manner. However, it's understood you don't know any better and that's okay. I get it.
  
  It's more than obvious that you don't care about others than yourself. So, go figure you have an attitude and it is the way it is.
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Lifes Jokeposted 14 years ago
impeach the president and replace him with who?...i wonder did you (person who started this thread) wanted to create a petition to get Bush out of office for sending the troops to war under false pretenses and not capturing Bin Laden...And im sure you didn't vote for Barrack most likely because he's black..but anyways you are entitled to your opinion...It didn't take the U.S. a year to get into such a f*cked up position it's in so it is illogical to believe that after a year someone can fix whats going on significantly....
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So, how long do you give him before expecting any accountability?
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  Lifes Jokeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I expect accountability now...i have a bachelors degree and no where to work and i also don't have health insurance...but to re-itterate my point impeaching him is jumping the gun....and i can't say for sure how long it would take to honor his commitment or he is even capable...but he deserves more than a year....and thats my opinion..of course if you don't like it, it just really sucks...but i hope you have a great day anyway.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  And it's on the president to go find you a job?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The president said" I will create and save Jobs" "I promise not to allow under my administration the unemployment rate to rise above 8%.
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  sdmairsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Please cite your source for this quote so it can be independently verified.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  While he was PUBLICALLY CAMPAIGNING For the Presidency
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How much more? Maybe just a rough estimate?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Maybe the term allotted by the Constitution. You will have your chance to lame duck him with a republican congress in 2010 and take a shot at him in 2012.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So it's not legitimate to expect any results from The Obama until the end of his term?! Wow.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I think you missed the point. He will be given the four years allotted to implement his policies. If he doesn't make a change that is worthwhile then he should be thrown out. I say should be as this is not always the result in a democracy. If he doesn't I will probably vote him out if there is something better to vote for at that time.
  
  I know you hate to hear it but the past 8 years have set this thing up to be what it is whether or not it was directly Bushs fault and it will take some time to turn it around if it is to happen.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So you are not going to expect anything of him until his entire term is over?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I did not put a timeline on how long it took for us to get into this mess and I can't put one on Obama to get out of it. If he doesn't change enough of what I feel is important by the end of his term than I will vote him out based on whether the opposing candidate looks any better. Hey I voted for Bush over Goofy Al Gore the first time. And I voted for him again even though I did not trust him over No Ideas Kerry. We will have to see what develops.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So, that's a "yes" on no accountability throughout his entire term. How generous.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your impatience to get results is what sets you up for the disappointment in Obama. You somehow think by subverting the system by impeaching him you will be able to get some better and quicker result. The system is set in four year cycles and that is the law. You have to find an impeachable offense to get rid of him.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When did I say anything about impeaching The Obama?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Somewhere back in one of your diatribes. I am not going to look it up as you would deny it any
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wrong. Find it, or apologize at once for lying about me.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are not that important to waste my time offering up anymore proof as you have shown time and time again that you have nothing to back your opinions or rants. I have never lied to you and never will. I hope you can say the same.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You have just now lied about me, and I have to wonder if you have the character to either admit it or correct it. The consequences are all on you. Don't say you can't be bothered to backup your claims and in the same breath boast about your honesty.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You really do have a chip on your shoulder, don't you. Does it bother you that rhamson appears more well traveled than you are? And now Lita is on the thread are you going to feel educationally inferior as well?
  
  Stop putting yourself down, woman. Your education sounds quite good - and you spotted that typo like an expert.
  
  Be all you can be !
  
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No, thanks for asking.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was a rhetorical question. Would you like me to explain what that means - or would you rather ask Lita?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Nope. All set on the meaning, thanks. Is this you trying to insult me again?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have as yet no reason to believe he is, but that would not bother me (of course).
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I certainly have no reason to believe that either.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good. It is much healthier to let that go now. Well done. Have you been taking self awareness classes or something?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Let what go now?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am not a woman. Did you really think I was a woman, or was that your attempt at yet another insult? What does that say about how you (in all your progressive glory) view women? Is the label 'Woman' an insult to you? That's an unfortunate outlook.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why would thinking you are a woman be an insult? Is there something wrong with being a woman? I assumed from the puppy photo in your avatar. Not so?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It wouldn't. Why did you try to use it that way? {better kick that 'spin' into high gear)
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What way?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Keep dancing, but choose your words more carefully next time.
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not going to answer then?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Not going to answer what? (gee, I have no idea this is part of the spin trying to distance yourself from your own sexist comments. such a mystery...)
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  Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry, I guess that was a little difficult for you to understand - not like spotting typos after all. Allow me to explain again in simpler terms.
  
  I thought you were a woman. You took that as an insult. Why?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I looked for a prior posting, I don't know what or who you are referring. I am a women , my name is Brenda, if it was me you were directig your comment. No insult taken for being a women, very happy I am. Typos you got me. I type to fast and sometimes don't check before I post very busy person I am.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well, it's always nice to meet another "Brenda".
  I like the thread topic.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I haven't logged on to the site until this morning since this post of course I will reply.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  OOPS!
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you read one sentence at a time and not string them together to further comprehend what the gist of the thoughts being discussed constitute? I think I have found out why your responses are so screwed up. You don't take in all that is said.
  
  I think I will put it in a way that you can pay attention long enough to understand.
  
  To the last response. First thought....NO. Second thought.....YES. Third thought.....YES. Fourth thought....NO. Fifth thought....YES. Sixth thought....YES. I hope this concludes the simple thought exchange portion to help you understand the complex reasoning it takes to read and comprehend a complete paragraph. Maybe if you can get this we can move onto multiple syllable words.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is all super cute, but would you like to support or apologize for your claim now?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I guess the answer wasn't in a simple enough format for you. You still didn't get it. You have proven once again that reason is not a part of your make up. I can't help you anymore.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So, where is the support or the apology for the unfounded accusation?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You will have to go back to the portion you edited out showing your response. Its in there. This is starting to turn into where's Waldo.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No editing, no Waldo. Show me where I Advocated the impeachment of The Obama or apologize for the accusation (if you care at all about the value of your word)
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sorry but pointing out Waldo would be cheating. I really have to go but I will check back in with the TK world later.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you check back with more honesty and character.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Impeachment PETITION. Listen to the people that voted you into office Mr. President
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is very true, I am just looking for some feedback pretty much about what the public feels about how the president is or is not doing his job. I am almost certain within acorn their was something illegally done that helped him get elected. I don't know just something doesn't feel right. My intincts usually are right and of course I know you cannot go by one womens' instints, that would be ridiculous for me to even ponder. However this forum as taught me alot more than I already knew. This actually "Impeachment of a President" was the first draft of a thesis paper for my college course. So I put it out there for some feedeback, Thank you Hubbers for your feedback, you have helped me know what mistakes were made , what i need to repair and pointed out there were misspelled words and fragmented sentences. The feelings I have though about the promises he made that he didn't not keep as a result putting us further into debt are solid feelings and concerns. Impeachment of a president, not the best title for this Post, It will be changed. No racism going on w/ me No left or right spin, just what is wrong and what is right from where I sit as an American.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To put a finer point on this topic, Rome wasn't built in a day, I agree w/ you. My fears are for what is to come. No we cannot predict that one, but perhaps based on history and errors made in prior administrations even this one, why doesn't anyone learn that history repeats it's self. It's like a dog chasing it's tale they never catch it but they keep on trying. The only difference w/ that analogy is watching a dog chasing its tale is funning and watching president after president making the same mistakes over and over is not funny. Someday , I fear the rest of the world will get tired of us and that is when a third world war will strike. Especially ,because we owe them so much money. I mean China did say, that someday they will own the USA, just paraphrasing here, I will need to research this one to find out exactly what was said, but in some degree, they do , like a bank owns your house until you pay the entire mortgage.
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  Ralph Deedsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I will probably vote him out if there is something better to vote for at that time.
  
  Palin?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I feel the same way but I don't think Palin is a question for me. I hope the Republicans can come up with something worthwhile if Obama flops.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A tree stump?
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  A three word answer this time. Very good, go and get a cookie.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Very Sad
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm only responding because of your picture .
  
  Let me see here: lie to the American public and send them to their first war since the disastrous events of Vietnam thirty years ago (a warning from history in itself) using thousands and thousands of troops, ie., young men and women from off your streets and from out of your homes, and costing billions of dollars...
  
  or...
  
  Don't fix problems that have been building for many years, and maybe even screw it up a bit.
  
  Mmmm, which is worse....?
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
Wow, perhaps I've been too subtle...?
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sandra rinckposted 14 years ago
Did anyone catch the part of Obama's speech just after he was talking about how 'we' have no intentions of (in short) taking over the world... peace for our children... that's why we have the world bank...

The crowd cheers.

Me, excuse me... did he... he did and the people are cheering. OMFG!

Id have him impeached too.
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awareposted 14 years ago
obama said this all in the same breath no lie . Afghanistan poses no immediate threat to the usa. so were sending 30000 more troops. i freaked out
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awareposted 14 years ago
i did not vote for him but he is my prez for better or worse. i fear we got the worse . jive talking wont get him another term ill bet on it
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Leta Sposted 14 years ago
Listening for main idea, listening for context.

This is also a very scary thread.
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Presigoposted 14 years ago
What a very well stated hub. All of us regardless of party leanings and religious affiliation truly need to be aware of what is truly going on. Its high time for us to take off the blinders of our leanings and see what is truly happening to our country and our childrens future
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you! Finally someone w/ the blinders off and color blind
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  Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  my pleasure !
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Manly Manposted 14 years ago
HubPages should provide an award for the forum that inspires the most intelligent and well informed discussion and debate of a critical issue. This one would win hands down. It's pretty clear that Obama is taking instructions from the Rev. Wright, George Soros, ACORN and Commie Bomber Bill Ayres. What are we waiting for? Impeach Hussein Obama NOW before it's too late!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sarah Palin
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol I believe satire, too.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They are actually starting to freak me out, Ron. It's like being in wax museum or a hall of mirrors. What's real? What's not? lol Seriously, though.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Twilight zone...
  
  Imagine if you will, a populace willing to impeach a president for not immediately reversing the catastrophic course of the past eight years; these same people willing to forgive and forget small issues like torture, lying to your country to justify invading another country.......
  
  ner ner ner ner
  ner ner ner ner...
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  Presigoposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I for one did not expect Obama to solve our problems in a year, but what he has done is take a bad situation from Bush and make it EXPONENTIALLY far worse. I am no fan of the previous administration but what Obama has done is beyond horrible
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  WELL SAID, BRAVO!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hear Hear!
  
  Bravo indeed
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  Army Infantry Momposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree !!! It's a frickin' nightmare
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you Manly Man. You are 100% correct on finally a forum where people w/ intelligence can converse w/o childish commentary, those children need to stick to myspace. Not saying Myspace is a bad website, but there are just so many clicks that talk about high school nonsense.
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Presigoposted 14 years ago
It is refreshing to see intelligent posts and commentary ! Lets be careful, we may start a new trend !
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  NS
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Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago
Yes, from start to finish this thread has raised the bar for intelligent discourse to an unprecedented level.

Bravo chaps.

Bravo!
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akirchnerposted 14 years ago
Since someone ELSE was president for 8 years, I'm kinda thinking ONE YEAR for Obama to dig us out of this mess is really totally unrealistic! You have to be kidding me. You expect for all the problems generated by 8 years of mishandling of power to evaporate in 1 year - or if maybe our other branches of government actually did their jobs and tried to find a meeting of the minds - there are many factors and no one man is an island. I agree that speaking your mind is what America is all about - but I also believe in a fair deal and I think Obama is certainly not getting one on some scores. You have to give someone a chance before you shoot off your mouth and condemn him across the board - and another thought - where would be with McCain at the helm? Or even worse Sarah Palin? I have nightmares about that one!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No matter who would have been elected, Sarah or McCain, we would not be trillions of dollars in debt to other countries, that are threatening our security.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  He certainly has done a real good job in ONE YEAR putting us in major debt w/ other countries and making us vulnerable to additional attacks, by taking a very long time, not just time to debate the topic, but a very long time in sending more troops. You people out that that are so against Bush, for going to war after 9/11, well something needed to be done to let those ignorant people know we are not gonna just sit back while you blow up our twin towers and try on the pentagon. Everyone is a Bush hater, Well what about all the catastrophes he was force to deal w/ while in office, Katrina in Louisiana, Charlie in Port Charlotte, Fl. and a few smaller hurricanes in addition to 9/11 practically right after he took office. I think he handled thing the best he could , weather he told the truth about why we went over there or not, Why does it matter, we still needed to be there. Many americans had no clue what he was talking about anyway, for example, Sadam Hussien and Osama Bin Laden, were names of 2 men very few American even new who they were until Bush send troops to the middle east and it was in your face everytime you put the television on.
  
  So in your world it is ok for a President to (in
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you are so sure of your convictions why don't you use your real name so the other Sarah Palin people can jump on your bandwagon? Your assertions are laughable. The U.S. backed both Saddam and Osama when they were against Iran and Russia. Iraq was a war to make George Bush a war president and give his office more power. Did you rant and rail against him when he started our country on this downhill slide? Of course you didn't, you are a republican and probably voted for McCain Palin. This tells me everything I need to know about your ability to make good political choices. It seems you have your panties in a wad, both literally and physically.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Stalker alert!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  pot/kettle
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  Bovine Currencyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Stalker alert! THAT is funny!
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  My name is Brenda, I am worried about things like craigslist murders things like that. Now you know my name. Im not afraid of having the people I talk to pretty much daily of knowing my name. Just the people that are here for another reason completely.
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I've never stalked anyone and I'm not one to use an alias to state my opinions. It just seems funny for someone to be so opinionated about truth but choose to use an alias to hide behind. Why would anyone accept the credibility of such persons?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Do you have a special address where the SS# and blood sample should be sent?
  
  ...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Replied to another , my name is Brenda, the world doesn't need to know my name. Helloooo, Craigslist murders?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The question should be why would anyone use their real names on the internet?
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I can understand why people use screen names. At a couple of sites, I use one too.
  
  But on the other hand, I refuse to give in to fear. So I use my real name anytime I like.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats your choice, I hope you never come to regret it.
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  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Me too! I'm hoping there aren't cowardly bullies on this site.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wouldn't 'literally' include 'physically'?
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  C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  rhamson,
  
  I one of those Katrina people. No, the majority of people did not blame Bush. The govenor and the mayors of the affected cities was the the problem. Note the elections that followed.....What I find repulsive is how many have used that tragedy for political gain.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am sorry for you to have suffered through that mess but I have relatives who where there and have left but still blame Bush and Nagin and Blanco for the debacle.
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  C.J. Wrightposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Most of that can fall squarely on the shoulders of Blanco. Complete incompetent. Nagin behaved strangely, but was under a lot of stress. To illustrate just how much the problem was not with Bush, look at the Mississippi Gulf coast or how Texas responded after their hurricane disasters. Louisiana was NOT prepared and lacked leadership. Had Blanco been better prepared and capable, Nagin never looses his grip, the mayor of Metairie either for that matter. Nagin took the brunt of it and that wasn't fair. Mainly because New Orleans was the focus. Nagin had taken over a city that had been completely engulfed in corruption for decades! The city is populated with a disproportionate amount of very poor people. It was a tough place to be. Katrina seriously damaged Nagin's legacy. I firmly believe he was going to make a huge difference in New Orleans. Unfortunately his comments in the months following Katrina burned a lot of bridges.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I know LOL imagine that. A politician didn't live up to his expectations. I and many others still think that Bushs response was lukewarm at best.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Here we go again. "Yes we can!" morphed into "Give him time!"
  
  I keep asking, but no one answers: How long?
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Leta Sposted 14 years ago
Um, Ma'am (I'm assuming), shouldn't you be gettin' busy writing that petition up and a figurin' how to get it to work? Enlist all that agree with you here (?)

(Excuse my grammar.)
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
I didn't know a President could be impeached because you didn't want him to be elected
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Good point. One missed by Bush haters for many years as well.
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Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago
There's really nothing funny about it.
Unless you think the possibility of civil war is funny.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 14 years ago
If referring to Tea Baggers (not the fun kind) as voices of reason isn't funny, then nothing is, has been, or ever will be is funny. Humor does not even exist.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  To 'what'?
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Presigoposted 14 years ago
A president has the moral obligation to serve the country and work to resolve systemic problems. For a president to take opportunity of difficult times to put forth an ideology that requires all of us to risk our future as well as our childrens is beyond horrible. It is akin to the infamous "ambulance chasers" in the legal proffesion, but their self serving acts while unethical and distasteful do not require a country to surrender its future !
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
"Scary, scary!" is right up there with "WAKE UP" and "OPEN YOUR EYES!" among pointless, empty 'you must agree with me' banalities.
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Scott.Lifeposted 14 years ago
We didn't impeach Clinton when he admitted to adultery, or Bush when we found out the intel and reasoning for invading Iraq was completely bogus. Why would we impeach Obama when he has not broken the law and in the 10 actual months he has been president things have not worked out like he wanted.

Don't get me wrong I don't like Obama and think he's just another puppet, with far too little experience as a leader, but he is what the people elected so for better or worse, the people are stuck with him. That being said, overturning 25 years of mismanagement over spending and corruption will not be quick or easy. How impatient we are when it hurts us personally. This will take time and effort and unfortunately everyone is going to feel the pinch, welcome to responsibility Americans, it hurts and sometimes even sucks. We as a nation have allowed our government to ruin us with years of silent compliance. Now we are paying for it. To think that one man as the president actually wields the power to ruin this nation is naive. You want to point a finger at DC then focus on the congress and their virtual lifetime terms and unchecked corruption of taxpayer money, there's your problem and boogey man. Vote them out, all of them, and start over with proven local leaders to represent their local constituencies as it should be.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree. The way to real change is to vote the slime on the hill out and restrict the time they have through term limits. And while we are at it let's do something and about the lobbying that is sucking the life out of our ability to govern for the people.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Wonderful rhetoric, but rights don't only exist for angry hippies.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Right. We impeached him when he lied under oath.
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  Scott.Lifeposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah and that taught him a lesson, except it didn't accomplish anything.So when has Obama lied under oath or broke the law. Better yet just keep calling people hippies and flinging the insults. Oh wait you never do that I forgot.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  One would hope so, but I wonder...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats a BIG 10/4 . Impeaching the president is definatetly not the answer, but a petition would make him see how unhappy we are as a country w/ the excessive spending. Don't you think? He won't listen to us , maybe, just maybe a petition would make him hear us. History has proven worse protests have occured. What is wrong w/ this protest, Heck it might make a difference. Like you said we have sit back to long and now we are feeling it, why not use now as to not sit back and take it any longer and say something about it w/ a petition?
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Denno66posted 14 years ago
rut roh reorge....
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Denno66posted 14 years ago
Stirring up trouble I guess....
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Denno66posted 14 years ago
I'm in for the stump.
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helotposted 14 years ago
Maybe you should look to impeach congress. I think they had a lot more to do with what has been happening than the figure head you're mad at.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Impeach everyone. They're all buggers. Except that nice Mrs. Clinton
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is really a great idea. Is that even possible?
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your right! But if the president were to put in motion the ideals he had prior to his inaugeration, perhaps things would begin to move in the proper direction , down in unemployment ratings, the debt certainly should have not increased, that is decreasing our dollar dramatically. Relying on the government more and more is not the direction we should be going. That is what is happening though, because that is what the president wants. Congress has ideas, the president agrees and signs the bills, Ulitimately it is up to the president. No matter if the congress is wrong or even right , the president has the last word.
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Leta Sposted 14 years ago
I'm sorry. I've been mocking this entire post, but seriously I do not understand the hyperbole encased in this long thread. It has been less than a year that Obama has been in office! And I'd like everyone to know that this is NOT a partisan statement I'm about to make: But it just sounds like a bunch of children crying. Do people actually see their elected officials as Daddy figures who are gonna fix everything? It's pathetic.

Yes, I lean left (though my left doesn't mean what many here think it means). However, you would never hear me--with any president--asking for "freedom" or for him or her to "fix the economy." This is nuts. I don't even know where to begin, I feel it is so lacking in scope.

You cannot blame one person (who wasn't even in office when the majority of the set up for these troubles occurred)for "the economy" going to hell or the housing bubble. Yeah, I know a guy (a builder who works for/with my bf) who is losing everything, ie--house, all his cars, motorcycles--everything. He had an ARM loan on the house--don't think anyone twisted his arm (lol) so to speak to sign the papers (for those who don't know, that's an adjusted rate mortgage: a few years real cheap payments, ballooning up after a certain point). And did he really need 5 vehicles on payment plans? What I'm trying to say is I cannot believe the voices here who it would seem would love to advocate the loss of all personal responsibility...and that's what this entire long thread looks like to me.

I know it's rough out there, especially in some areas of the country. All the better now to be proactive and come up with creative solutions (and oh, yes, Virginia, they are out there...count on it), than whining and snarling and throwing tea bags. Class of victims under socialism, heh! We're already there--it's just more like the feudal lords took the sugar cubes out of the feeding stalls and made off with the manor's silver candelabras. The serfs now have tooth aches and don't know what to do but stand in their cubi...stalls.
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No whining, this thread is only to state that the PRESIDENT made promises in which were not kept as a matter of fact they don't even enter into his plan, who knows what his plan is he never tells anyone anything no matter how much we ask, We do have a right to know. He was voted him in office, with the impression he was going to fix the economy. Here we are further in debt. That is not how you fix the economy.
  OK, HOW DO WE FIX IT? OR were are our ideas on how to fix it. Oh yeah our views don't matter, he won't listen to us, yeah those those town hall meeting, tea parties etc. is a perfect example .We are mearly American's sitting home watching the grass grow unless we are lucky enough to have found a job. Whining, at least we care enough to whine. At least we are not Judging how other's feel. We are American's Concerned out our future and our children and their children's future. Spending is way out of control. The Health Care Bill is something we cannot afford nor did we want,but they pushed it through regardless of what we said.
  
  What is ironic, is the people are scored on their debt to income ratio's via a credit scoring system created by governemnt and we get spanked w/ a high interest rate if our credit is short of perfect. When we try to get a loan.
  The governement however keeps borrowing and spending with out the ability to pay the debt back. However when people borrow and run into financial difficulty and are late on payments we are deemed to be irresponsable. Unfair don't you think? We can't do anything about it. Hence, my posting, impeach a president,improperly titled maybe, grammitical errors definately, unfinished sentences agreed. The fact something needs to be done still remains, because the president won't listen to us, I came up w/ an impeachement PETITION idea. Maybe we can't get him impeached unless he has dome something illegal, but he will hear us w/ a petition. Obama is collapsing this country's abilty to survive by making the citizens rely on big government that is his big plan. You , expect American's not to whine? Funny, you must be perfectly fine during these hard times.Inherited money perhaps or have a family that is close helping each other out. Not everyone is that lucky, some of us ARE the family that helps out their children and have no one to rely on but themselves and built what they have and now are loosing everything. Stop whining ?Sad, the fact we have to. The day people stop whining is the day people stop caring. What then?
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
It'll be The Obama's last few days in office and some true believers will still be crying "give him more time!"

Sorry, but...
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  WeStand4Freedomposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Doubtful, if things keep going the direction in which they are currently
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