Is 666 the same thing as the new world order?

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   crystoliteposted 12 years ago

   I was thinking about the illuminati new world order situation and i figured that it may be the same 666 prediction in the bible. What do you think?

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      Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Is 666 the same thing as the new world order?
      
      
         me     to intending to be forceul; but in answer to this question ?
      
        NO,    NO,   Not even close!     Different story entirely.

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      heavenbound5511posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      My opinion is that the illuminati will help usher in the antichrist which is what I think of when it comes to 666 and it's relation to the illuminati. The mind control of the illuminati works to deceive and control- Just as the antichrist will.

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         bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         they seem to be controlling your mind pretty good!

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      jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The sixth character of the Alef-Tove is Vav.
      The particular grouping of 3 broken vav denotes the 3 parts of the  human being. The seventh character is the crowned vav -the Zayin (sometimes believed to be Zion).
      
      The perfect 3 vav is only mentioned twice in Torah, once describing Adam the other describing Immanu El. After mans 'fall' he was referred to as the broken vav, the broken vessel.
      
      Has nothing to do with the concept of NWO -that is a human ( political ) idea.
      
      James.

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         bgamallposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         James you are quite wrong. The new economic order, just based on what we know about the central banks and not a lot of hard to prove history of illuminati and stuff, is a real order. It limits governments. Look at poor Greece and the attack on her sovereignty by the Eurozone and the IMF.
         
         So here is the deal, the new financial order, which I write about in my hubs and on BI, is powerful and yet can be slowed by frugal behavior and by not biting for easy money loans. It is quite difficult to buy and sell in this order, as big business dominates and small business fades away.

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            jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            oh good grief, people, learn some Hebrew, please.
            and while you're at it, please, please read the FIRST LINE OF JOHNS LETTER. Because that line explains what the entire book is about.
            
            Thanks.
            
            
            This whole anti-christ thing is a farse. It was in 'Jesus' day and still is today. The antichrist is the oppposite of the anoiting which is exactly what christ means.
            
            It is not a person it is a power, authority.
            
            If you read correctly at the resurrection EVERYTHING about the beasts, false prophet, antichrist was done away with -as for authority, power and dominance over the human being.
            
            And I quote:
            
            "And this is the first resurrection."  revelation 20.5
            "Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them..." revelation 20.6
            
            When did the first resurrection happen? Anyone, Anyone.
            
            Also notice what IMMEDIATELY follows the first resurrection: Enter the Kingdom of Heaven; "the dwelling place of the Fathers Spirit is now with man". Fulfilling his title: Creator with us (Immanu El).
            
            James.

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               www.lookseenowposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               First resurrection began in 1919

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               www.lookseenowposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               correction 1919 C. E.

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                  jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  no, correction: over 2011 Gregorian calendar years.
                  John's entire letter outlines, in vivid form, the entire Work of Immanu El, as the first line states, "This is the Revealing (revelation) of Immanu El...
                  
                  From rev 19.1 thru 21., we see the stages of the resurrection, reactivated KOH within and the indwelling of the Father, as Spirit and the Water of Life flowing...
                  
                  No such thing as raptures or fallen angels or anti-christ micro chip implants. "Behold," he said, "I make all things new."
                  
                  Walk with the Spirit, in the light -instead of chasing around the dark, tripping over every pebble, looking for a light switch...
                  
                  
                  James.

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      Dave Mathewsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is the mark of Lucifer,satan,the devil,the beast. It will mark all of those who choose to consider him as their leader and deny God.

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         jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         which is mans number, not an entity.
         
         And I quote: "This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of man (adam, meaning out of the earth, of the dust --note where the beast comes out from: the earth. Same words). That number is 666.
         
         No mention of any Lucifer, Devil, Satan (note the Caps).
         
         -beast of earth (dust) Hebrew translated darkness, evil, corruptible, perishable, etc.
         
         Man the flesh, man the mind are the anti-anointing (christ).
         
         
         James.

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            bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            yay James, at least somebody knows the truth!

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               jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               bri! A Foodie?!
               I shake your hand. Was a foodie for 2 decades.

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                  bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  hey somebody gotta make the food of the gods!!! dude i with you, to many times has somebody tried to spew some dumb stuff just to make it seem like the real truth is a pack of lies. None of these educated Christians actually know anything other than what comes out of the TV. Then if it does not fit into the tightly ordered "Faith" then it comes from the Devil. The real Truth comes from living and being in the GRACE of G-d. if we can walk just for a little bit in the light, the whole of our lives becomes Truth.

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                     jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     The photo below is the logo for Monster energy drink, who just do happens to make three delicious coffee versions of said drink. Ironically those three stripes depict the 3 broken vav pictograph in Hebrew (representing the numeric 6).
                     
                     A t-shirt from MED is like $25 USD.
                     
                     
                     

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                        bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        my jewish friend says ashem would be proud! and he wants a 2x...

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            Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I could be wrong!   Everyone continuously says that I am !
            
              That gives me incouragement;   lol
            
              The beast which can be identified by calculating the number 666  was the irst beast which came up out of the sea.
            
              The second beast came up out of the earth.
            
              In my opinion;  earth was translated from a word which was talking about the promised Land; Judea and Israel. At least in the early probhesy.
            
               "The Wilderness" represented all of the known world surrounding the promised land.
            
              "The Sea"  I believe would stand as humanity as a whole, ??? I don't know;  something else?
            
            
                That is my thoughts.
            
              The governmental type system that says it represents Christianity is the first beast which rose up out of the sea.
            
              The government type system which represents Islam is the second beast that rose up out of the earth.
            
              I'm not talking about the christian or the Islamists, but the orchistrated business type system itself.
            
               GOD  IS  Good,   all of the systems that says that they are God representive is not.  for every man made institution WILL fall short.
            
                That isn't quite what I mean,  but it is getting closer, at least in MY own mind,  thanks to everyone here in these forums.
            
                I'm listening to all of YA,  and you all have some truth to tell.  And we are ALL wrong in some way.
            
               When we all admitt this?  the learning can begin.

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   Paul Wingertposted 12 years ago

   666 is the ancient Jewish code for Roman Emperor Nero. Means nothing to anyone unless you were a Jew living around the 1st Century under Roam occupation.

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      heavenbound5511posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What so funny is that the way Roman Emperor Nero acted has similarities of the acts of satan and the anti-christ. That means something.
      
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nero

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         Paul Wingertposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Comparing Nero to Satan is like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe the early Christians refered to Nero as an anti-christ, but the Jews could care less about Jesus. Satan, as a physical bad guy, exists in Islam and Christianity, not Judism. The Jewish word for "satan" a metaphor  that simply means "adversary".

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            heavenbound5511posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            HA- Anyone that can read about Nero and that know the bible can see the connection. Killing Christians, murder, deceiver, on & on!
            
            Nice to see you again and I do mean that

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               bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               try thinking some. reading just fills in the space between the madness.

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   dutchman1951posted 12 years ago

   They're all around us. Secret conspiracies are everywhere, and where can you find the only truth?
   
   The object of the Illuminati is to take control of the world!
   
   The phone company is controlled by creatures from outer space!
   
   The Congressional Wives have taken over the Pentagon. And the Boy Sprouts are cashing in their secret Swiss bank account to smash the IRS!
   
   
   
   ...Rediculous!

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   bri36posted 12 years ago

   666 is the number of man. A. Crowley used this number to identify himself in the material plane. it means nothing, never has ,never will. if is for all of you fools  and believers to argue over!!! the jews from about 100 ce used this number to brand Nero a fool. hence my point....

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      heavenbound5511posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Everyone that will receive this mark of the beast in their hand or forehead will be a fool and will have to deny/renounce Jesus as their Lord. I am not trying to prove anything here- I am just letting you know with this statement what will come and only God will make sure His word is fulfilled.

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is it time to break out the tin foil hats with the aerials yet?

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            dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            if not they just missed a heck of a chance!!!!!!

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         Jeramiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Does it say that in scripture.. ?  the denying the Lord thing.   
            It does say that even the most rightous will be fooled if posible.
         
            So i gon't this religion will be making a frontal attack upon Jesus.
         
            I always thought that it will preach Jesus but twist his words,

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         bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         where does it say this? which bible? who says so? why are you so set on telling us what G=d says or how things are going to be? when G-d himself has not said what will happen. only that "If" you do this or that here is the consequence . I thought that once G-d has said something, we are supposed to do. Not explain why!

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   bri36posted 12 years ago

   where do you guys get the idea that 666 is satan? it is a number that was used in the mathematic systems of the ancients. that is all. the rest is just you guys trying to make something real out if nothing. so what was jesus number? if he was a man wasn't it 666? so there now what? fools are easy to find out here living the high life...

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      crystoliteposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Thats a good point. If the number of MAN is 666, then Jesus is equally 666. If the illuminati organization is made up of MAN, then it is 666. Everything came from nothing and then became something (real) So I believe that anything MAN is capable of thinking is already real. Think about it.
      
      i wonder if there is 999

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         bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         i guess we are the only ones that have courage enough to ask???

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         Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         The number of man is just 6. The number of God is 7. 666 is something else entirely.

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   klarawieckposted 12 years ago

   I love numbers 6 and 9. Let me know when that's predicted to come together. I'm interested!

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      dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lol!   well get you the T shirt!

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   I always heard that the 666 represented the 666th denomination that broke off from another branch of Christianity. They told me that happened when the Pentecostal/ Charismatic movement  started in the 20th Century. Because that was in LA.  Everyone knows that's Satan's playground.
   
   If you look at Revelations 15:13-14 it references what God thinks of their speaking in tongues and Revelations 14:10 says what will happen to them for doing it.
   
   You can verify this as truth by cross referencing Jeremiah 8:8-9 and 8:12.
   
   There's more, but really unnecessary. Proverbs 15:31. This says it all.
   
   Be ye sinners warned.
   
   
   
   Or, the much more likely explanation is; it's just another number that doesn't mean anything.

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      bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      who's truth? why should i listen  to you? when i have already been "warned"didn't G-d give me free will to do as i pleased? or is that something that you want to take away too?

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         Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is that possible? You'd give up your free will? Just like that? You must be religious.
         
         It is tempting, but I don't want to take advantage.. You keep it.

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            bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            religious is for Christians. they are the one's that don't believe.

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               Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Now, you're becoming interesting.
               
               What do you mean by that?

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                  bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  everybody has rules, or commandments or laws of G-d to fall back on. but nobody ever takes free will for a ride. why? because they don't want to look stupid in the eyes of their fellows. But it is always easiest to blame free will. "Hey you got free will,make your own choice!" or "use your judgement" but when they make a mistake or somebody loses an eye its always G-d judgement against the "sinner" wtf? it was the "sinner" that used their own free will right? so why blame G-d or Satan when we ourselves are the reason for punishment! G-d has nothing to do with it. so quit fooling yourself take responsibility for your own actions! now who going to answer the question. if 666 is the number of man, and jesus was a man. Isn't his number 666?

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                     Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, I was right there cheering you on, up until the last part; at which point you lost me. I think they are trying to define pure evil.
                     
                     If you are the type that is prone to look, you might be looking in the wrong place. I'd go with someone like Rush Limbaugh.  They are trying to keep the conversation current.
                     
                     It's no fun pointing fingers at figures in the past. And, there's the whole holier than thou hurdle to consider if you make the Christ the bad guy.

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                        bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        ok then let's bring it into the new age. all of the so called christians that go around pounding on their bibles during bible hour on tbs. then when it really counts(homeless, family's that lost their home. former marines that get shot down in their own home, kids that need medical care) where are they? how come it takes a federal mandate to get anybody in the "faith" to do something outside of their comfort zone. but they are the first ones to bitch and moan if it doesn't fit in with their concept of what the word of G-d says.  then when it gets pointed out that this is the real of it, all of a sudden we, who do care are always made out to be the satan worshipper's or the leaders of the conspiracies to denigh G-d into the world. I DO believe in G-d but not the G-d of TV land or anybody elses version of G-d . There are NO versions to the truth. if you believe then you buy the whole package. no one is better than me and I am no better than anyone else! G-d is love, remember! tell me, where is the love?

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                           Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Very nicely said.

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                              bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                              thank you

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   dutchman1951posted 12 years ago

   Religionism; becoming a legend in your own mind!

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      bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      can you fit it on a t-shirt?

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         earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I'd wear it!

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            dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            me to!
            
            a friend of mine has one with a picture of a Bible, showing it's cover in Red and Gold.
            
            around it in Black writing, it says; Read the Novel, Hero dies in the end!

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   You mean Greece which has crippling debt, an unbalanced budget and is threatening to crash the economy of Europe by defaulting?  My heart bleeds for them.  not sure what is mysterious about how that happened.

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    dutchman1951posted 12 years ago

    question?
    
    does any one really know what 666 means, this internet stuff is a dead end, when looking it up?   

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       jacharlessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       dutch, the numbers represent the 6th Hebrew character -vav.
       There are two types mentioned -the perfect vav and the broken one.
       
       The 7th character is zayin (also called zion) which is the crowned vav.
       
       James.

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          dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          ahh, ok, now I have a start to look at this, thank you

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             bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast
             this is about the best you will get. besides 666 is the wrong number! just ask any jewish person...

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                Jonathan Jancoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Wrong number? So, what is it, 668? Neighbor of the Beast?

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                   bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   once again 666 is the number of MAN, revelation 13: 17-18 The number of the beast??? who knows. A Crowley claimed to be the beast-he was a man- so maybe it's all of us? or just some of us? I with earnestshub, looking for the tin foil...

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       bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       The Number of Therion and the numerology thereof
       
       The Number of the Beast is 666. The number is of prominent significance in the Magickal system of Thelema. It is the sum of the numbers inside the magic square of the Sun, which is still used today by some Kabbalists, astrologists and numerologists.[4] According to Crowley, it is a solar number.[5] The Stele of Revealing bore the catalogue number 666 at the time when Crowley discovered it, which was one of the events that lead to the writing of the Book of the Law.
       It can be said that the Hebrew letter Shin (ש), which is written in the beginning and end of the Hebrew word for Sun (Shemesh), conceals in itself the number of the Beast, for its shape is three Vaws conjoined together, whose gematrical value is 6. It has been noted by some that the abbreviation W.W.W. may be interpreted as 666,[6] for the Latin letter “W” formed out of the Phoenician letter Wav, whose value is 6. This can be explained by saying that the rise of the Internet is one of the things by which has been marked the beginning of the Age of Aquarius,[7] which is strongly tied with the concept of the Aeon of Horus in Thelema.[8]
       The following words and phrases have 666 for their gematrical value:
       Το Μεγα Θηριον — Greek for “The Great Beast”. Koine Greek is the Greek dialect by which the books of the New Testament were written, including the Book of Revelation, where the most popular mention of the Beast's number is recorded (13:17-18).
       תריון — a Hebrew spelling of “Θηριον”, Greek for “Beast”.
       שמש יהוה — Hebrew for “Sun of the LORD”. It is the value of the Tetragrammaton (26) added to the value of the Hebrew word for Sun (640).
       סורת — the negative spirit of the Sun.[9]
       נכיאל multiplied by 6 (111x6) — the positive spirit of the Sun.[9]
       נשימירון — the Qliphoth of Pisces.[10]
       פרי שלום — Hebrew for “Fruit of Peace”.
       אליסטיר קרולי — a Hebrew spelling of the Name “Aleister Crowley”.
       השטן שב — Hebrew for “The Devil has returned

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          bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          now lets think outside the box for a minute. 666 is something that holds the Christian mind in thrall. it has everything to do with the inquisition and a few thousand of bulls by a couple of Popes that didn't want to 1. lose control 2. go to hell by accident 3. get burned for what they were doing!!! now  say what you want, it is a subject that will confuse many people for eons to come, because it was meant too. no i really don't care what people think and am inclined to believe what the mystical jewish think. (111x60-the positive spirit of the sun.) why do I want to think about evil stuff? when there is so much in the world today. let's leave it where is, and try to fit it on a t-shirt...

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    Jonathan Jancoposted 12 years ago

    I dont know if anyone has pointed this out yet but the mark of the beast is the bar code. the upc code. look it up if u think I'm full of it.

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       earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Perhaps you could provide a link. I saw nothing in Wiki I could see the 666 in.

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          Jonathan Jancoposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Ok Earnest, I don't know how much this will actually explain. But this article looks like the most detailed one I could find.
          
          http://www.indexoftheweb.com/Patriot/TheMark.htm

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    platinumOwl4posted 12 years ago

    There is a difference between the two. A take over is easy just add more channels to the satellite and more porno site and its a piece of cake. Many people occupied with mindlessness and degenerating photos of enslaved bodies.

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    bri36posted 12 years ago

    are we done here? cause there is still a lot to cover or is everybody bored?

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    bri36posted 12 years ago

    this is for bird man. bro take some medicine and wash of the Vaseline. it's starting to melt your brain. maybe let some air out of your girlfriend, i think she is plotting to jack you for the car...

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    earnestshubposted 12 years ago

    666 are three numbers that are the same as each other.
    There ya go!

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       dutchman1951posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       so I am finding out also!

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          earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Wottalottarot!

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             bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             so now you guys believe? told ya we should get t-shirts made... 666 is only for the christians to use as a password once they get to hell. or for the really crazy magic user dudes on warcraft to power up some super blue lighting zapper spell that turns satan back into a goat.

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       qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       ...and upside down are 999...now I think we've covered it intoto!
       
       Qwark

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          earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Well done!
          
          All that was needed was to turn the page upside down and I saw it straight away!
          I'm glad you found the last piece of the puzzle.

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             qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             

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    qwarkposted 12 years ago

    I read these responses and shake my head in utter disgust!
    
    Believers in this monotheistic "claptrap," constitute the majority of extant humanity!
    
    Isn't it obvious to the, "thinking' minority, why "ALL" life on this planet is in great jeopardy?
    
    What is truly "scary," is that as human population grows, the threat will increase in kind!...and there's NO CURE!
    
    666?...PURE BS!
    
    The "illuminati" and a "new world order?"...one can only guess!
    
    The "certainty" is, that the future of "man" will be decided in this century.
    
    Qwark

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       bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       really? i thought Robert J. Oppenhimer and the father of the H-bomb Teller already decided?

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          qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          bri36...yep! It was decided!
          Einstein said (paraphrase) ...the only way mankind can survive is under the control of a 1 world gov't.
          Our contemporary future is sealed.
          If we make it the next 50 yrs, my dust will roll over at the bottom of the Pacific!
          QWark

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             bri36posted 12 years agoin reply to this

             thanks for clearing this up QWark so maybe now we can work on getting the T-shirts printed up, and helping the TV preachers spend some of the money.
             anybody want pizza?

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                qwarkposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                I'm all for the pizza and the t-shirts! :
                
                The preacher in our lcoal church is driving his cheaper "Rolls." The Rolls "Silver Cloud" convert is in the shop.
                
                I'm comin' to the end of my journey, I'll leave what's comin', to the kids to handle.
                
                Lets see them try to put "Humpty Dumpty" back together again.
                
                NOT! :
                
                Qwark

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