Alcoholics and Drug users draining our Society
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENT
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cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTWhat are you trying to say, what are we going to do with them? We cant kill them of course, if after psychological counseling and other effort failed and they are not considered harm to society only to themselves, they should find a way to improve themselves and get away from addiction through the help of family members. they can be cured only if they are willing to be cured.
and here i thought it was the transfer of wealth that's draining our society.
frickin' drug addicts.
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it's true. and all we do is fork money into programs that really don't help people get back on their feet.
Give a man a fish- he eats for a day. Teach him to fish- he can eat all his life.
Our nation encourages degenerate life.- 92
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here in the US what is draining the society are some policies which are misplaced, i.e, continuous military spending in Afghanistan, health reform program which is doomed to fail even at the start, unemployment rate placed at 10 percent and above, there is a need for overall makeover of the system, they should have emergency meeting to discuss all of these, OBAMA admin
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sooner than later wrote:
it's true. and all we do is fork money into programs that really don't help people get back on their feet.
Give a man a fish- he eats for a day. Teach him to fish- he can eat all his life.
Our nation encourages degenerate life.the First Lady encourages people to volunteer. i think it would be splendid if she would compel people (able bodied of course) who are on the public dole to pay it back by volunteering. it would make them feel good and give back a valuable service to the community.
We fork out millions every year to HELP !!!!!!!!!! these people when the vast majority do not want help, they get all the benefits going and FREE prescriptions for there methadone (make them pay for it if they really want help.
The genuine ones who do want help are being left behind because of all the wasters out there who take up all the time and resources.cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTDo you have any specific numbers to back this up? I'm against wasting resources as much as the next guy, but I am not so sure that the relative amount put into rehabilitating drug addicts (who are happy to receive free benefits) is so substantial.
Every "drug user" I have ever heard of or known would do anything to stay out of prison... I'm not sure who is booking jail cells for the heroine...cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTCalabacus, have you ever walked into an AA/NA meeting? The people there are not those you might expect, many are upstanding folks in the grips of a disease.
The disease of addiction does not discriminate according to class.egiv wrote:
cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTDo you have any specific numbers to back this up? I'm against wasting resources as much as the next guy, but I am not so sure that the relative amount put into rehabilitating drug addicts (who are happy to receive free benefits) is so substantial.
Every "drug user" I have ever heard of or known would do anything to stay out of prison... I'm not sure who is booking jail cells for the heroine...I used to work for Glasgow addiction service which employs hundreds of workers including Nurses. The cost of residential Rehab runs into Thousands of pounds with very poor results. A lot of these people claim bus fairs and other expenses (because all their benefits go on drugs and alcohol). If they have children they claim even more and where do you think most of that money goes.
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cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTThere is probably some truth in this, but certainly you've made a generalization more than anything.
Anyone who sucks air is a drain on the earth, economy and society. But I'm not sure I'd want to live alone on the planet, either.- 69
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I always thought that medium and minimum security inmates could be used for the jobs "nobody wants to do" that was usually carried out by the illegal imigrants. now the economy does not have such jobs.
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Daniel Carter wrote:
cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTThere is probably some truth in this, but certainly you've made a generalization more than anything.
Anyone who sucks air is a drain on the earth, economy and society. But I'm not sure I'd want to live alone on the planet, either.I think some of the concern stems from the way in which these policies are emplamented. I would say that we have some major flaws. Its not that anyone wants to see these people dissapear- but eventually make progress and maybe even contribute.
cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTA financial advisor told me that 1% of the population holds 97% of the money so your thinking is all messed up. If all the money was going to help the ones who need it, there probably wouldn't be a problem.
Besides that, perhaps your profiling technique needs some work, here, let me help....I have had an ongoing addiction to heroin for 35 yrs. I raised three college graduates, have a degree in tech. communication, have written several books, owned a couple of businesses. Get a fact or two before you talk about other peoples' problems.
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sooner than later wrote:
I always thought that medium and minimum security inmates could be used for the jobs "nobody wants to do" that was usually carried out by the illegal imigrants. now the economy does not have such jobs.
There are quite a few states using inmates for road crews, ditch work and public upkeep, but more and more are dropping those programs for cost reasons. Security has also become a concern. Here in Tennessee its a cost consideration though. There simply aren't enough Officers to work the prisons and jails let alone provide security for work programs. However they have gotten around that by making those same jobs now the responsibility of those doing community service. They don't get paid for working, but actually pay the state while they're out there. I think its fair. You might also be surprised by just how many inmates want to do some kind of work program while incarcerated. It's actually considered a privilege in states like Georgia, and North Carolina that still employ chain gangs and work crews. Inmates will do anything to get out of that cell for a few hours.
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cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTI actually see it from another point of view. There are a lot of normal people who have problems and no help and they end up turning to the bottle or drugs.
Maybe, if government could open up Coaching centres, Mentoring places or places to really help people with what they are going through, there wouldn't be so many on drugs and alcohol.
Some just use it to numb the emotional pain they are going through.
Another example is teens - a lot of teens are commiting suicide now because no one is really listening to them or getting them to open up to various issues they might be dealing with - which could be broken relationships, bullying, taunting, sexual abuse, weight issues etc. This eats away at them as they have no experience in dealing with it - then bad thoughts set in and before you know it, they turn to drinking, drugs or just kill themselves, thinking no one cares.
So sorry for writing a short Hub. Lol. ...but you did ask for a comment.
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Scott.Life wrote:
sooner than later wrote:
I always thought that medium and minimum security inmates could be used for the jobs "nobody wants to do" that was usually carried out by the illegal imigrants. now the economy does not have such jobs.
There are quite a few states using inmates for road crews, ditch work and public upkeep, but more and more are dropping those programs for cost reasons. Security has also become a concern. Here in Tennessee its a cost consideration though. There simply aren't enough Officers to work the prisons and jails let alone provide security for work programs. However they have gotten around that by making those same jobs now the responsibility of those doing community service. They don't get paid for working, but actually pay the state while they're out there. I think its fair. You might also be surprised by just how many inmates want to do some kind of work program while incarcerated. It's actually considered a privilege in states like Georgia, and North Carolina that still employ chain gangs and work crews. Inmates will do anything to get out of that cell for a few hours.
yeah, i think if they could figure out how to make the program pay for itself it would be a win win. I imagine inmates want to get out to break the idle time.
There has to be jobs that would pay- and the money could be aplied towards the security required and start forcing restitution(which is a joke right now). - 69
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Lady_E wrote:
cabalacus wrote:
The amount of resources put into alcohol and drug abuse is scandalous and placing great strains on our economy.
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
Drug users are happy to go to jail as there is usually a plentiful supply of heroin there and it is no deterrent to them. Methadone does not work and only supplements there drug habit.
PLEASE COMMENTI actually see it from another point of view. There are a lot of normal people who have problems and no help and they end up turning to the bottle or drugs.
Maybe, if government could open up Coaching centres, Mentoring places or places to really help people with what they are going through, there wouldn't be so many on drugs and alcohol.
Some just use it to numb the emotional pain they are going through.
Another example is teens - a lot of teens are commiting suicide now because no one is really listening to them or getting them to open up to various issues they might be dealing with - which could be broken relationships, bullying, taunting, sexual abuse, weight issues etc. This eats away at them as they have no experience in dealing with it - then bad thoughts set in and before you know it, they turn to drinking, drugs or just kill themselves, thinking no one cares.
So sorry for writing a short Hub. Lol. ...but you did ask for a comment.I couldn't agree more. here.
most of these suicides are from broken families. I have seen the percentages, and it is staggering. 
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cabalacus wrote:
The vast majority of these people contribute absolutely nothing to society and have claimed state benefits all there life.
This statement is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever heard, open your eyes man. Lawyers, doctors, wall street traders, politicians..... there are people chopping up lines in all walks of life. You don't notice them, because they arent asking your for a dollar in the street. They say that ignorance is bliss, but your so ignorance that you must have a 24/7 non-stop orgasm or something.
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cabalacus wrote:
We fork out millions every year to HELP !!!!!!!!!! these people when the vast majority do not want help, they get all the benefits going and FREE prescriptions for there methadone (make them pay for it if they really want help.
The genuine ones who do want help are being left behind because of all the wasters out there who take up all the time and resources.But your from Scotland? It's not costing you anything, it's costing ME to look after your junkies.... since Scotland is largely subsidised by English taxpayers, and then get their university studies free and additional healthcare services. So what if I said that the English refused to subsidise Scotland and that if you needed your subsidised education and your subsidised healthcare, you would have to pay for it?
