Clicking on other hubbers google ads.......
Something just occured to me, not only are we writers here but we are ALSO CONSUMERS. I see nothing wrong with clicking on a fellow hubbers google ad if it's something we are interested in. I am getting the feeling that some people are afraid to do this for fear of reprisal for being click happy and hurting their google adense.
I think we are missing the boat if we don't so this, why would I go somewhere else to get that same google info if I could get it on a fellow hubbers site?
I often see google ads that appeal to me and would like to click on them-
91- desert blondie
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Dorsi wrote:
Something just occured to me, not only are we writers here but we are ALSO CONSUMERS. I see nothing wrong with clicking on a fellow hubbers google ad if it's something we are interested in. I am getting the feeling that some people are afraid to do this for fear of reprisal for being click happy and hurting their google adense.
I think we are missing the boat if we don't so this, why would I go somewhere else to get that same google info if I could get it on a fellow hubbers site?
I often see google ads that appeal to me and would like to click on them-We are consumers! Were we not supposed to click on the ads in other hubs if we're interested? Yikes! I thought I just wasn't supposed to click on my own hubs' ads! Whats up with this?
No don't get me wrong please- no one said we shouldn't but I am getting the feeling from other posts I've read that some people are hesistant about doing this because they are afraid it will cause problems with Adsense somehow. My concern is that we ARE consumers and no one should be afraid to click on other hubbers google ads- and I am hoping that someone from HubPages will address this issue-
It's just this hesistant sense I'm picking up from some posts here.
But we are a BIG group of consumers here so it's definitely something we should talk about. Maximize our presence as writers AND consumers!desert blondie wrote:
Dorsi wrote:
Something just occured to me, not only are we writers here but we are ALSO CONSUMERS. I see nothing wrong with clicking on a fellow hubbers google ad if it's something we are interested in. I am getting the feeling that some people are afraid to do this for fear of reprisal for being click happy and hurting their google adense.
I think we are missing the boat if we don't so this, why would I go somewhere else to get that same google info if I could get it on a fellow hubbers site?
I often see google ads that appeal to me and would like to click on them-We are consumers! Were we not supposed to click on the ads in other hubs if we're interested? Yikes! I thought I just wasn't supposed to click on my own hubs' ads! Whats up with this?
94- stephhicks68
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Well, I am sure that I will be corrected if I am wrong, but I don't see the difference between clicking on an ad in which you are truly interested (and not just because you think it will help the hubber), or buying a product that they have placed on the Hub through Amazon or eBay. Just last week, I enjoyed a consumer review that I read and tried to buy the product through the hubber's eBay listing (I didn't win the auction, but that's not really relevant...) So, I guess what I am saying is that we could click as consumers. Interested to see what others have to say.
89- pauldeeds
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With eBay and Amazon they don't pay out anything to their affiliates unless a purchase is made. On the other hand with cost per click ads, which most AdSense ads are, they pay their advertisers for a click--a click which may or may not result in a purchase. For that reason, in order to keep their advertisers happy (and remember the advertisers are the ones that actually pay Google money), they have to take a fairly hard line against click fraud.
I wouldn't say that you should never click on an ad on someone else's hub on HubPages if it genuinely interests you, I just wouldn't make a habit of it. Furthermore, it's important to remember that if you have used URL Trackers here much, the ad that you think is someone else's may well contain your own AdSense id.Thanks Paul but I didn't understand that last part?
Does this mean that sometimes others google ads are the same as ours, and if so, when we click on them we are actually also clicking into our own adsense account?
Which in effect could get us banned from Adsense?pauldeeds wrote:
With eBay and Amazon they don't pay out anything to their affiliates unless a purchase is made. On the other hand with cost per click ads, which most AdSense ads are, they pay their advertisers for a click--a click which may or may not result in a purchase. For that reason, in order to keep their advertisers happy (and remember the advertisers are the ones that actually pay Google money), they have to take a fairly hard line against click fraud.
I wouldn't say that you should never click on an ad on someone else's hub on HubPages if it genuinely interests you, I just wouldn't make a habit of it. Furthermore, it's important to remember that if you have used URL Trackers here much, the ad that you think is someone else's may well contain your own AdSense id.- 89
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If you've referred another user, using URL Trackers, the way that we share revenue with you is to put your affiliate codes into the ads on their hubs 10% of the time. So, it is possible when you are viewing someone else's hub that the ads actually are "yours". If you never use HubPages URL Trackers, then it isn't something you have to worry about.
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- desert blondie
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pauldeeds wrote:
With eBay and Amazon they don't pay out anything to their affiliates unless a purchase is made. On the other hand with cost per click ads, which most AdSense ads are, they pay their advertisers for a click--a click which may or may not result in a purchase. For that reason, in order to keep their advertisers happy (and remember the advertisers are the ones that actually pay Google money), they have to take a fairly hard line against click fraud.
I wouldn't say that you should never click on an ad on someone else's hub on HubPages if it genuinely interests you, I just wouldn't make a habit of it. Furthermore, it's important to remember that if you have used URL Trackers here much, the ad that you think is someone else's may well contain your own AdSense id.Thanks, Paul. makes sense. And I'm so ignorant about everything except writing...I don't even know what a url tracker is, let alone using them!
stephhicks68 wrote:
So, I guess what I am saying is that we could click as consumers. Interested to see what others have to say.
I am sure I'm not the only hubber who will say, "Please don't click on my adsense ads".
I don't want anyone "helping" me or rewarding me for writing good hubs by clicking on ads and I would just prefer that even if you've convinced yourself that you have consumer "intent" that you not click my ads. Please feel free to give me a "thumbs up" or join my fan club instead if you want to reward me.
Here's my perspective -- Adsense ads are designed to elicit unconscious (subconscious?) clicking. Someone who clicks it doesn't necessarily realize that it is an "AD" that they are clicking. They just see a provocative text which suggests that it will lead them to something they want.... so they are compelled to click it.
If you have to stop and think about whether it is appropriate for you to click because you are a "consumer" then you are already not thinking like a typical consumer. You're thinking like an Adsense publisher and you are already putting too much conscious thought into it.
I swear everytime this subject comes up I experience an involuntary shudder.I don't even see the google ads on hubpages and other websites anymore. In this paranoid fear of clicking on my own ads, my eyes have shut them out.
Susan Ng wrote:
I don't even see the google ads on hubpages and other websites anymore. In this paranoid fear of clicking on my own ads, my eyes have shut them out.
I'm much the same way. I never click on them on any websites. And most of the time, I don't even really notice them unless they are very obnoxious.
Paul, some of the ads aren't for products, they're promotional ads for non-commercial websites. I do click on those on someone's hub or site if I want to visit the website. With all the websites out there, sometimes it's easier to find relevant sites from the ads.
I have found some of my best leads and information about other sites through clicking google ads. In fact, clicking on a google ad led me indirectly to the HubPages, because I first clicked on a Print'N'Post google ad in Yuwie, which then led to another click ad which was for Helium, which to led me to research other sites, hence HubPages. This has happened several times.
I never click ads of other hubbers as a reward, I click because it's something relevant for me.
And I welcome and hope that other hubbers will click on any google ads they feel will help their lives, or something they are genuinely interested in.embitca wrote:
stephhicks68 wrote:
So, I guess what I am saying is that we could click as consumers. Interested to see what others have to say.
I am sure I'm not the only hubber who will say, "Please don't click on my adsense ads".
I don't want anyone "helping" me or rewarding me for writing good hubs by clicking on ads and I would just prefer that even if you've convinced yourself that you have consumer "intent" that you not click my ads. Please feel free to give me a "thumbs up" or join my fan club instead if you want to reward me.
Here's my perspective -- Adsense ads are designed to elicit unconscious (subconscious?) clicking. Someone who clicks it doesn't necessarily realize that it is an "AD" that they are clicking. They just see a provocative text which suggests that it will lead them to something they want.... so they are compelled to click it.
If you have to stop and think about whether it is appropriate for you to click because you are a "consumer" then you are already not thinking like a typical consumer. You're thinking like an Adsense publisher and you are already putting too much conscious thought into it.
I swear everytime this subject comes up I experience an involuntary shudder.
91- darkside
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Too often, here and elsewhere but not in this thread, I see comments about "rewarding" people by clicking on their ads.
Adsense is not a rewards system.
We are not supposed to draw undue attention to Adsense ads. And this discussion is drawing undue attention to the clicking of ads.
I can't remember where I read it, whether it was an Adsense Team blog post or from a bona-fide Adsense Guru, but it was suggested if you feel the need to see where the link is going then Right Click > Copy Link Location
Paste that into the URL and find the string that is the actual site.
This is an example of the URL you would get (I grabbed one and changed some of the characters so it wouldn't work if accidentally clicked):
http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pa … 7777777777
Digging through the code you'd find http://layoutlimo.com is where it is sending the traffic.
If you absolutely positively have to go to a site that is advertising through Adsense, then do it that way.
Err on the side of caution. Don't play around with the livelihood of other community members and HP HQ.Dorsi wrote:
Something just occured to me, not only are we writers here but we are ALSO CONSUMERS. I see nothing wrong with clicking on a fellow hubbers google ad if it's something we are interested in. I am getting the feeling that some people are afraid to do this for fear of reprisal for being click happy and hurting their google adense.
I think we are missing the boat if we don't so this, why would I go somewhere else to get that same google info if I could get it on a fellow hubbers site?
I often see google ads that appeal to me and would like to click on them-If you see an ad for something you like then click on it. However I think Google does a pretty good job of tracking who clicks on what and where so if you only ever click on Google ads on HubPages and do it a lot then I suspect Google will frown on this.
I actually don't think I've ever clicked on a hubbers google, but I do from time to time do it in different places, like I said it's indirectly brought me to signing up for HubPages.
I'm sure Adsense must somehow have it in their algorithm to weed out abusers, otherwise this program would never work.
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The problem is, they don't just weed out the abusers, they cut off their adsense account with very little chance of having it reinstated and will not let them open another. I suspect most of us decide it is not worth the risk. I certainly have.
I have yet to find a google advertiser that was worth visiting anyway. Most of it is spam LOL
They are much less picky about their advertisers than they are about what is acceptable content and ad placement
And they cut off your account if they merely suspect you of abuse or decide they think that you just might abuse in the future. And it's their program and they don't need to prove anything.
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- Mark Knowles
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LOL
I am finding my relationship with google to be very much a one way street. Like being in a bad marriage. It's their rules, and they can change the rules any time, and it's up to you to work out what the new rules are. And you better work them out fast, or there's a divorce on the way - and they are taking all the furniture Which is why I would never put my livliehood in the hands of just google adsense. After studying it some, I certainly don't want to put all my expectations in the hands of a company that can "pull the plug" at any time and not give me a reason-
Just like any business, there has to be good communication going both ways.
And I agree, most of the advertisers there are not always topnotch, but it's just like Stumble Upon, sometimes you do run into some good things.
I know I for one am going to be careful what googles I click on from now on!embitca wrote:
And they cut off your account if they merely suspect you of abuse or decide they think that you just might abuse in the future. And it's their program and they don't need to prove anything.
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