These two clowns have a combined IQ that equals a small light bulb and yet they have a following. Limbaugh radio show boasts that it's the most trusted news source. Right wing Republicans rate him about 24% as trustworthy. Everyone else rates him at less than 2%. Beck is just a plain jerk who likes the sound of his own voice and has a chalk board fetish.
My step father had the perfect reply for people such as yourself. While watching a well known comedian one night on the TV he began laughing so loud that he woke my mother, she snapped at him to turn that thing off, the woman was just an idiot. His reply: " I wish you were an idiot like that instead of a real idiot" If you could hear the things that you say, you might be more careful of what you say. Have a wonderful day sir.
Cuts both ways. You're right. They're all distractions to confuse "the li'l people" like those pulp-sci-fi novels where a monster manifests from the populace's thoughts (Forbidden Planet, Freddy Kreuger...take your pick.)
They both have the constitutionally protected right to lie to their viewers which they both exercise. Their viewers have the right to fact check their lies but obviously, they can't even spell fact check.
Mormon is nothing more tham moron with a litlle extra mmmm thrown in. It is really sad that people need the kind of crap they spew to get thru a single day. I have to wonder, are they both TRUE christian conservatives? Yep the put their holy underwear on one leg at a time just like their god does.
My Aunt posts stuff like this every day on Facebook. In fact 5 minutes ago I had to read about how Glenn Beck is an idiot from her. And I thought to myself, boy am I glad I'm not involved in that.
Where do you get those numbers from? Those are biased numbers, because if you were to ask me I'd give you the right answer. I have no idea. Because there is no way to know if they are trustworthy just by watching/listening to their shows.
Fox News and CNN are slowing down the process of human development, I am sure of it.
I am so sick of having to listen to people in smug/nasty voices say.. "the far left" or "the far right" like they are scum. No one has even met these people, yet they form outrageous opinions. And I am 100% sure it is because he doesn't have democrat next to his name. They go on TV/radio and say things with shock value. And you all post about them more and more, only feeding the fire.
The only guy that I really have a genuine dislike for is Al Gore, as he is a liar and a scam artist. Not because he is far left, I can care less about that. Case in point An Inconvenient Truth, go ahead and check out how accurate that movie was.
You sound just like my dad, except he would be slamming "the far left".
I am not involved in politics as it makes me sick, reading things like this just makes me sicker. I can't stand what politics has become, sorry.
Spin doctors and Rhetorical magicians. It's hard to escape them, many in my family tree treat Gore as a credible source. I don't.
I know politics is disgusting, I'd be more worried about the people who aren't disgusted by it. But that gives us all the more reason to become active in the field or we will truly be slaves to these cheap magicians.
"I have no idea. Because there is no way to know if they are trustworthy just by watching/listening to their shows."
Why would you say that? If you read a few newspapers and other sources and compare what they say with the actual facts it's not hard to tell that they aren't trustworthy. Glenn Beck is a pathetic, uneducated loser. Limbaugh is smarter than Beck but even more dishonest and partisan.
Regardless as to whether they're idiots or not...who has the most listeners? Limbaugh or Matthews? Beck or Oberman? Almost every single legitimate poll shows that nearly 70% of this nation is conservative. Sorry, seems you're surrounded by idiots. Bet this past Nov. 2nd messed up the future for ya.
Right, Ron, but even your poll shows more conservatives than moderates or liberals. Even among Democrats, there are more moderates than liberals - according to the poll you linked.
As for the original question, I can't answer it. I've NEVER listened to Rush's show - only heard short clips on the news. I don't care for Beck, though...or Olbermann. I don't like either extremes of the political spectrum.
There are more conservatives than liberals (probably a reflection of the woeful state of our school system). The claim of 70% is outrageous- the product of ignorance or dishonesty on the part of the offending party.
"And I am 100% sure it is because he doesn't have democrat next to his name."
I don't like Beck because he said President Obama is a racist who has a deep-seated hatred for white people. Because he lied and smeared Van Jones so much, we lost a good employee working for something I believe in. Because he sneers and derides every single "liberal" as if they are less than human.
He is a NASTY character.
And Limbutt, well--his NASTINESS goes YEARS back. First ever president hater du jour. But he also hates anything "liberal' as if they aren't fit to be in his glorious presence. Calls for drug users to be thrown in prison, unless they are him, I guess. Called President Obama a jack-ass. Called Clinton a pot-smoking draft-dodgin philandered-in-chief.
Yet, not a PEEP about manufactured false intellligence leading up to invading a Sovereign country.
Oh yeah--he was all for torture too. Sadist!
You can have that whole nasty bunch. Go on and pretend people don't like them cause they're not Democrats. That doesn't even make the list.
There is a lot of name calling in this thread but precious little in the way of anything that refutes the arguments or claims made by beck or Rush.
I'm still scratching my head over why ANYONE would defend an avowed communist like Van Jones (and for all the righteous indignation, nobody seemed particularly upset over him calling Republicans a**holes).
Guess when it's you're guy, then anything goes, huh?
Re: Dancing with the Stars - Ballroom dancing requires strength, skill, and even some talent. Every step must be executed accurately and with precision and is almost on a par with figure skating, though I personally feel skating is more demanding. The height and weight of the partner is also something to be figured in when choreographing dances. There are strict rules and competition dancers are judged accordingly. Dancers are some of the strongest atheletes.
Gaga is an artist who really thinks outside the box. She may not be top drawer but I give her kudos for creativity, initiative and uniqueness. She likely will be a fad like Boy George but if her music stays fresh, she may endure the fickle music market.
I often think that many buy these books for a laugh. Also I'm sure public libraries buy a lot of them. When it comes to bestseller books, my favourites never seem to be on those lists and I often hate the bestseller ones.
Sadly, best seller lists are skewed. The sale numbers are inflated creating interest and becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I drive for a living so listen to a lot of talk radio. I happened to catch Beck from day one. He's a funny guy much of the time, does a lot to raise money for charity, and is sometimes just looney. That doesn't make him a liar.
Limbaugh, at one time, was a brillian political analyst. When he lost his hearing, something changed. He makes many mistakes in his speech and has, for some reason, gotten into name calling. I don't like it but he wasn't always like that. This doesn't make him a liar either.
It's important to listen to a variety of news sources and try to come to a consensus of your own. The world is full of idiots. And the world is full of liars. The two are not mutually exclusive. Example: "false intelligence leading up to the invasion of a sovereign nation". Incredibly, every intel source came up with the same false intelligence. Incredibly, the Taliban declared war on the U.S. Incredibly, some people hate their own country and blame political parties and radio program hosts for their own small minded hatred of any opinion which is opposed to their own.
One of the more amusing things to me is that when I say I listen to Rush liberals tend to shut down, immediately. Then they treat me as if I have no mind of my own - funny thing this annoying free speech thing. Fine if Keith Olberman rants and fumes and spews in ways that very few conservative radio people would ever try and he gets a pass when he appears to be quite unhinged, even to Ben Affleck.
ucv - With respect to everyone else, I think quite the opposite is true. Rush's dialogue is better received by a more sophisticated listener, with higher I.Qs, those who have learned to reason things out for themselves, those who have learned to listen with an open mind, who do not presume to know the mind of anyone but take their words and sift them. Most people do not know how the word dittohead began. It doesn't mean his audience dittos everything he says.
He's a manipulator. He twists things to fit his liberal-bashing view.
And Limbaugh has always been a name-caller.... didddle-up diddle-up diddle-up....Femi-Nazi's. Femi-Nazis. Femi-Nazis. That was the first non name-calling. circa 1991.
From an insider, regarding false intel:
"The administration didn’t believe false intelligence, it created it, order it in place before the election to be ready for, well I guess, 9/11. Silencing Plame and Joe Wilson, those were the same people who planned the creation of the phony intelligence. There was never a discussion of a serious terrorist threat against the United States. These guys would have fallen off their chairs laughing themselves to death. It was all a joke to them, 9/11, the Iraq invasion, all of it.”
Chalabi was a double-dealing operative. Curve Ball was a psycho. Powell's chief of staff has said it was all bogus. One man was murdered for saying the intel was "sexed up".
For the record, I don't hate America, I hate what people like those you support have done to it. Don't you EVER speak for me! What nerve and gall.
And there is nothing to be learned from racism and insane rantings. ergo_Russsshhhhh and Beckles the Evil Idiot have nothing worth listening to.
Honestly, I could never speak for you. Moreover, I don't really support any of them. I try to take an objective approach. Sometimes I agree with Beck or Limbaugh, sometimes I agree with Obama. Usually I make my own judgements and am not easily swayed by any particular side or individual.
Actually, lmc, I was referring to you. I would really like it if we could sit down together and talk, though I know this is not possible. I'd like to know what makes you so angry. At least that's the way your comments come off. I don't know specifically what you're referring to when you say you hate 'what they have done to it'. I don't think any particular segment has done all of 'it' whatever 'it' is. All the politicians have had a hand in the destruction of this nation, not just the Republicans, or Rush. And Beck has only been around for five years or so? You believe a clip which says the intel was trumped up but you don't believe half the world's intel. That's your choice. So be it. You may be right. We may never know the truth. But you cannot possibly be sure you are right unless you were there.
Neither man impresses me as an idiot. It is funny, when someone does as we would have them do they are brilliant. When someone does what we would not want them to do they are evil or stupid or both. Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck have millions of listeners on hundreds of radio station selling millions of dollars in advertising resulting in thousands of people earning a living. If they were really so useless would there be this attention? Didn't President Shining Handsome Obama win by popular vote? Why do we choose to trust one popular choice as wise and distrust another?
Fareed Zakaria; "If supporting violent or extreme actions against governments was enough to make someone a terrorist, he said, then "how would one describe a man who has been fueling such anger against the American government on television daily for the last two years? How, in other words, would one describe Glenn Beck?"
And it's not only Beck... It's all of them. A Righty-Brigade of anger against the gvt.
Ooooops scratch that...now that the billionaires got their money---the anger seems to have dissipated! How strange. SNARK.
70% 40& 150% 2% -- The numbers are meaningless. Americans are friggin as fickle as they (we) are gullible. Check out this latest "poll" showing that the GOP/tea party tsunami is already waning -- and it ain't even hit shore yet!!!
---------------------------------------- Breaking News Alert: Post-ABC poll: public not yet sold on GOP December 14, 2010 5:03:14 PM ----------------------------------------
Republicans made major gains in the November elections but they have yet to win the hearts and minds of the American people, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
The midterm elections – where Republicans gained 63 seats to take control of the House of Representatives and added six seats to their Senate minority – were widely seen as a rebuke to President Obama. Still, the public now trusts Obama marginally more than congressional Republicans to deal with the country’s main problems in the coming years, 43 to 38 percent. And when it comes to who has taken the stronger leadership role in Washington, it's an even divide: 43 percent say Obama, 42 percent the GOP.
I'd be happy if the next generation got to keep more of the money they earned via permanent tax cuts. The give-away I think is wrong is the give-away of my tax dollars to other countries, among other things.
Rachel Maddow is brilliant; Keith Olbermann falls off the deep end now and then; and Chris Matthews is just a lightweight political fanboy. Beck, however, seems to have no limit to the depths he will sink to keep his viewers riled up enough to continue watching his nonsense. Rush is a little more cunning in that he knows he can keep a bigger audience by maintaining some semblance of limits, but he's a money-grubbing snake-oil salesman just like Beck.
Rachel Maddow is a Rhodes Scholar with a doctorate. I don't always agree with her views, but I like the way she handles them. She's not a "yes girl" for Obama or the Democrats, either. I've seen her call them out plenty of times.
I don't like either of them. Even though they're idiots they've both made a lot of money selling books and being on air. I'm all for making money, but the way they go off on conspiracy theories and making people panic is not the way to go.
Well, personally, I'm not much of a joiner or follower. The mirror tells me how old I am. Not much else.
But bigger among the idiots are the networks who perpetuate their reign, and bigger than that are the people who follow them like lambs. Buying into their fear, bigotry, and salacious stories is just sad.
But it does indicate the power of money. Spin stories and upset people really, really well, and you can make money at it.
Thought I'd scope out Chris Matthews' education. He is a 1967 graduate of the College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, Massachusetts, and did graduate work in economics at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Matthews served in the United States Peace Corps in Swaziland from 1968 to 1970 as a trade development advisor. According to Wikki Matthews voted for W in 2000. Imagine that!
My first introduction to him was on a political roundtable show The McLaughlin Group back in the late 1980s/1990s. This is probably where he learned to interrupt his guests!! The show had 2 conservative and 2 liberal guests each week.One was Eleanor Clift from Newsweek. Robert Novak and Pat Buchanan represented the GOP stance. Apparently it's still running, but I haven't watched it for years.
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