Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords Shot in Tucson

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   "In the Republic the citizen is king."
   Anyone who thinks wealth doesn't control government in this country must be a fat cat in denial. The citizen is KING?
   
   Notice how many of the Forbes top 400 wealthiest Americans are wealthy because of INVESTMENTS. Yeah, that's an industry that really provides a lot of day-to-day value to the citizen king alright!!! You cannot tell me with a straight face that the average American is buying anything (except faulty mortgages) from these people.
   
   http://www.forbes.com/wealth/forbes-400 … amp;state=

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      uncorrectedvisionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      An opinion expressed in ignorance... the finance industry makes the life of luxury, Americans enjoy so much, possible.  One need only look at countries where there is no real banking and finance industry and where they make everything that their people use to find real poverty.
      
      Faulty mortgages - you mean like all those Fannie Mae and Freddi Mac backed instruments?   What wealthy person has at his disposal as much money as the Congress or the Federal Reserve?  When the federal government of the United States wants to spend more than it collects it borrows, taxes or inflates to pay for it.  Since taxes are finite and inflation and borrowing are nearly infinite, the government, even a liberal one, tends to borrow or inflate more than it taxes.
      
      The recent collapse of world finance should serve as a cautionary tale in that banks sought to create fiduciary instruments, based in the  marginal value real estate holdings, far in excess of the value of those holdings.  The inflated value of those holdings was still less than the 14 Trillion that constitutes the National Debt of the United States federal government.

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   Ralph Deedsposted 13 years ago

   Those hoping for answers may be disappointed: Jared Loughner, the man suspected of shooting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killing six other people, is not cooperating with authorities, according to MSNBC. He's due in court this afternoon, where he'll be charged with five felony counts. He'll be represented by Judy Clarke, the lawyer who defended Unabomber Ted Kaczynski and worked on Timothy McVeigh's legal team. Clarke is already in Arizona and hopes to represent Loughner at his trial this afternoon. When police investigated Loughner's home, they found evidence that he may have been planning his alleged attack on Giffords, including a note that said, "my assassination" and another that said, "I planned ahead."
   
   Daily Beast.com

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   We have handguns with 10-round magazines.
   It usually takes me a full magazine to hit the can off the log.

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   Whew, thanks, Evan, for the clarification.
   I'm glad I didn't jump down your throat too bad ! MM

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   Jim Hunterposted 13 years ago

   By the way, I seem to recall the media and a whole lot of you lefties saying that we must not jump to conclusions about the terrorist act at Ft Hood a while back.
   
   I call it a terrorist attack because it was actually a terrorist attack.
   
   You lefties seem to be wrong a lot more than you are right.

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      Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Jim!  I see you are still wrong about everything! 
      
      The more things change......
      
      Randy-

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         Jim Hunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Its a tough world Randy, a tough world.

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            Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You got that right Jim!  LOL!  Root hog or die pore!

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   Oh I see, Jim.
   Now it's Loughner's community college's fault.
   They should have saw this coming and locked him up.

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      Jim Hunterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      No MM you don't see.
      
      A lot of people could and did see this coming.
      
      And did absolutely nothing.
      
      So now that it has been done the first people blamed are the ones who had nothing to do with it.
      
      Why are the democrats and some on here exploiting the deaths of these people for short term political gain?

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         Jeff Berndtposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "A lot of people could and did see this coming.
         
         And did absolutely nothing."
         
         What to your mind should have been done? Serious question.

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         KFlippinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         God forbid we should have profiled this nutjob as a nutjob, professed officially to seeing this coming, that is what allowed this to happen, the silencing of common sense in the interests of tiptoeing around the right to be a nutjob for too many years, all hail liberal policies of respect and consideration for any old nutjob. How sad, how very sad, that this was immediately and for days, used as a political tool.  My thoughts and prayers are with this Congresswoman, and all that were lost in the name of Liberal politics and the right for nutjobs to live the American Dream of fulfilling their nutjob dreams.  Sad Sad these past few days, unreal rhetoric.
         
         Oh Jeez, an update, Whoopie G. now claims folks were being lynched in her day due to hate speech, now how is that for using this tragedy, does that likeness to this tragedy fly with you?? Or do you think it is really awful reaching to help your political party?? 
         
         Unbelievable use/justification of this tragedy for political gain all across the far left. Makes you wonder if they hired him, will that come out eventually?  It is like they were all ready to jump, point a finger that is proving quite crooked.

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            lovemychrisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            "does that likeness to this tragedy fly with you??"
            
            Yes. People take their hate and think it gives them the right to kill the people they hate.
            Only, in the case of black people, it was quite legal to kill for your hate. At least, they got away with it for decades. All they had to do was make black people less human.
            Seems to me, the fringe far right are making their opponents less human too. CONSTANTLY, on a daily basis...20 hrs a day. So--hey, if someone with psychological problems happens to get over-raged and kill someone.....Oh Well, hey--It's not OUR fault! WE didn't pull the trigger.
            
            It's called feeding the flames of hate.
            It's quite profitable, I hear.....like 35 and 59 miliion a year respectively.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Whoopie's got a chip on her shoulder bigger than Obama's, if that's possible.  That's been publicly evident time after time;  she just spouts off like she has a right to accuse anyone of anything and nobody seems to have the guts to call her out for it.

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         LiamBeanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You can't lock someone up just because they appear nutty. There are a lot of people out there who appear to have a screw loose.
         
         In fact, both the right and left, make a game of proclaiming the latest sound-bite celebrity loony-tunes.
         
         Fortunately, one cannot be locked up just because someone else says they seem crazy.
         
         It is truly a shame that something like this has to happen, violence against others, before any action can be taken. But imagine a country were you can be locked up just because someone else thinks you should be.
         
         Hell, we'd all be in jail.

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   Mishaposted 13 years ago

   Well, there is more interesting angle to this event. Asking yourself "Qui beneficium?" may bring some light into who is behind it. Let's see what the consequences we have so far, aside from terrible consequences to those being shot and their families?
   
   1. Health care repeal is postponed
   2. Gun prohibition proponents got an example to back their views.
   
   So, Qui beneficium?

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   authorfriendlyposted 13 years ago

   For anyone interested I put up a hub on the brain injury and discussing possible effects; used the opportunity to refer to wounded veterans sites (they also have head injuries)..

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      Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. Interesting. Helpful in providing a realistic outlook for Giffords' recovery.

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         LiamBeanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I have a number of hubs written on brain plasticity. One covers the plight of Phineas Gage, who had a dynamite tamper pass through his brain, very close to where Ms. Giffords' injury is. The tamper looked like a long crowbar. Apparently Gage had drilled a hole in a boulder prior to blowing it up in place. He was tamping the dynamite down with his when the charge exploded. The bar passed just behind his chin and out the top of his head. You can see a picture of Phineas and the tamper attached.
         
         He not only survived he appears to have recovered completely except for blindness in the eye the tamper passed behind.
         
         I doubt she'll be able to complete her term, but I'm relatively comfortable assuming she'll recover. With time completely.
         

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   Ralph Deedsposted 13 years ago

   Loughner's parents express sorrow and plead for privacy.
   
   http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/us/12giffords.html?hp
   
   The parents of Jared L. Loughner broke their silence Tuesday, asking the media to protect their privacy as their son stands accused of trying to kill a congresswoman in a rampage that killed six people and left 14 others injured.
   
   “This is a very difficult time for us,” said the statement, issued Tuesday afternoon by Randy and Amy Loughner. “We ask the media to respect our privacy. There are no words that can possibly express how we feel. We wish that there were, so we could make you feel better. We don’t understand why this happened. It may not make any difference, but we wish that we could change the heinous events of Saturday. We care very deeply about the victims and their families. We are so sorry for their loss.”
   
   The statement came as friends of Jared Loughner said Tuesday that his behavior had become increasingly erratic over the last year, underscored by his fear that two of his closest friends were planning to kill him, one of those friends said Tuesday. “He did not have many friends,” said Zane Gutierrez, 21, who met Mr. Loughner in high school. “We stopped talking to him in March of 2010. He started getting weird.”

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      Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I hope the media will respect that request. They didn't do it. Sure, if they knew in December, what their son would do in January.. But they didn't know.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    His parents are victims of his killing spree also. So sad.

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