Well, this is the day of the site-wide profile page update.
So, how is that going?
Post your thoughts and experiences here.
Having already converted sometime ago, I remain unscathed.
I imagine there are going to be a lot of people who are clueless because they don't keep up with the announcements forum.
Even those who have already changed to the new format -- I see many who have never completed what they needed to do, such as:
1. Moving links from their bio text to the new link fields. They don't seem to realize that links no longer can be used in the bio text.
2. Redoing the text of their bio to make the most important info viewable without clicking "more."
The links are also no follow now so there is no added benefit. Except for the Google+, all the other buttons are nofollow. Not sure why they left the Google+ alone but it's okay with me.
The Google link is "follow" so that you can claim Google authorship by also placing a reciprocal link in your Google Profile. This is one of the greatest advantages of the new profile because HP also included the rel=me authorship markup on the new profile link to Google.
I do agree with you about the others. Not sure why they decided to make Twitter and Facebook nofollow as Google suggests authorship links between all profiles.
Well that makes sense and good to know too considering that I really just started using Google+ and recently claimed authorship on several of my blogs. Did not know I could do that on HP so its first on my to do list for tomorrow.
I just checked your Google Profile and I see you put the required reciprocal link back to your HP profile. So you should start seeing your image in your search listings soon. Looks like you've got some interesting hubs that I'm going to have to check out.
Ahh yes, I was going to make the changes this morning but when I went to bed last night I was restless so I got back up and changed it.
It's an awesome feature to allow us to claim authorship here on HP. I've already seen some benefits as far as a small spike in comments and traffic.
If anyone needs help claiming Google authorship, I advise you to go to Glenn Stok's hub on the subject. He gives a great tutorial on just how to do it here and many other places where you might be writing and he gives some resources to test it out... Great job again Glenn.
I wonder how long it will be before HP discovers that one of my recent images is a naked female in a tree.
Good PSA post. I'll add, making use of the carousel.
Yes, that's going to be something left out by those who waited till now.
Well, so far, life has not ended as we know it.
active visitors on site"
Where does that info appear?
(Do they have to be 'active' or can they just be sitting there looking? )
Actually, I thought you meant followers of this forum until I saw your next post when I just came back to check now.
As far as followers, it's now only 3. I guess that means only you and I, as well as one other, are interested in where this is headed.
I was one of them. Looking for the naked girl in the tree.
Where was this announced? I see my profile has now been stripped of most of it's value.
It was unofficially announced 51 minutes ago by Paradigmsearch!
They snuck that tidbit of info into last week's newsletter.
Yep, your bio links are dead.
But your bio can say they are available at upper-right. That will help somewhat.
And the actual changeover date was announced in the newsletter (though I didn't read that either).
The other big change (besides losing our do follow links) is that it's no longer possible to search within a Hubber's Hubs. You can only use the main search. This is a major issue which I posted about here:
Question: What is the significance of the numbers that appear beside the photos of articles listed on the profile page? Guess I missed that description!!
Well, I noticed that HP "flickered" there for about 30 seconds or so a little while back. I checked the profile of one of the "resistance leaders" and it is now the new design. Looks like it's all a done deal already. What fun is that?
I updated it a couple weeks ago and so far have not seen any changes in traffic or anything else. The downside for me is that I can no longer place links in the body of my profile and considering my profile's page rank it use to provide a little something extra... Though I guess it is good for the site as a whole as it will no longer benefit spammers to come and create a profile just for the backlink.
Yep, I held out to the end.
The only good thing I can say is that it's really easy to change your profile.
I hate - HATE - that I can't control "Others you might like..." I spent about 10 minutes clicking the x's on those three selections, and so many of those rotations offered up hubbers with 0 hubs (not to mention the hubbers whose work I know is dreadful). So I decided to select hubbers with 0 hubs for all three options. What will that say, HP? The thing is, I don't know if HP does an auto-rotation on those things. I hope not. I hope my 0-hub choices stick.
@Mark, as far as my profile having value, I'll have to give this some thought. It certainly isn't a place to drive traffic elsewhere (which it did before), nor is it a place to build up referrals. I don't know what it's good for, yet.
I didn't see your post when I posted mine earlier. I was looking for an Official HP post (like a sticky on in blue at the top of page).
I wish they would have at least given us a sest date before changing this. "Sometime later..." does not give proper head-time. lol
They probably never got around to checking the little boxes at: http://hubpages.com/my/activity/forum-topics-following
ha ha ha... not really...i added a background though and changed the featured hub...i don't link to anything anyway...i was trying to get rid of 'recent photos', do you know if i am able to do that?
As far as I know, no. Oops, that was a know no.
btw, could you add your social media links so that I can stalk you properly?
ha ha ha....i did connect it to FB, but it didn't accept it...i'll try again...same happened when i changed my featured hub...i kept saving and saving...finally though it worked....now back to FB
did that work...i think i added you as a friend...i`m `not techno savvy`
anyway...later...i`m done playing around with my account...so far, i`ve lost my profile photo and then couldn`t edit it....etc...etc...but finally got it back...etc etc....off to have some dinner and hang out with Raven
My recent photos are awful. I have Charles Manson, Prince Charles, and some other person. I wrote about them, but would have liked pics of more attractive people I wrote about. How can you change the background? I am not sure I want to, it looks too busy to me already.
My "latest images" are ones I posted to a forum thread! So, if you want to get rid of the images currently displayed, just post some new ones on the forums. When you next put images in your hubs, which you don't want to be so prominent on your profile, put some more images on the forums to push them out of the three display spots. These will need to be freshly uploaded, but I guess you can reuse existing images if you give them different files names before uploading them again.
I think it is totally ridiculous to have every single image we have ever loaded onto this site in any context appearing on our profiles. Apart from anything else, I'm sure there many be potential copyright issues around many of the images people have posted on the forums here, because they mostly won't have been attributed like the ones in our hubs.
I really don't like the feature as it is now, either. I think it is to encourage visitors to watch a slide show of your pictures but who is going to click on it if the pictures that show up are out of context and look ridiculous.
I like your idea of posting in the forums to get the ones you want to show up "featured", or at least getting around the problem of having silly pictures show up on the profile page.
That has happened to me as well. I'm going to try it again here and now to see if that still works.
What is even more disturbing is that images I removed from "Photos" in my account are STILL showing up in the gallery on my profile!
I find that totally unacceptable.
This one cracks me up. http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/103463? … ost2206677 And now it is on my profile page.
Awwww, didn't realise you were so cute.....
I'd like to get this one 3 across on my profile. Each from different source.
That's because when you remove photos from your account the actual file is still in the HP database. I found that out by deleting photos that I had still used in hubs. The image in the hub was still there, even though I had deleted it from my account image list.
Another thing that's interesting: I recently created a new hub and reused a photo of a prior hub by selecting it from my HP database, rather than uploading it again. And I was surprised to discover that it appeared in my profile as one of the three recent images. So what this means is that simply reusing an old photo in a hub will make it reappear as a recent image in our profile. No need to upload a new version.
Could you please post the link to your hub that livewithrichard is talking about?
Paradigmsearch- I used this one by Glenn Stok and it worked for me on How to Claim Your Google+ Authorship.
http://glennstok.hubpages.com/hub/compl … directions
Your picture shows up next to the search.
SUCCESS! I am herewith a verified dude.
Uh... Did I speak too soon?
I've got the nice, green/white "Verified", but no "rel=author" after my G+ number. But it is also showing my avatar, author name, real name, etc.
Well, I'll know soon enough when I do some searches next week. I doubt my avatar will show up, since it's not a head shot. But if the other stuff does, then it's confirmed.
All's good. If you go to your Google+ profile and hit "About" next to other profiles you have your hubpage link. When you go to your HP profile you have your Google link.....it takes awhile for the picture to show in the search results.
Hopefully, Glenn Stok will come on and double check, too.
Thanks. The concept is simple, but syntax has been known to destroy many things...
Yes I checked for both of you. You are both verified. I even checked a random Hub of yours, paradigmsearch, and it is verified too. So that means you have authorship recognition, but without a face shot, Google may not use your avatar.
summerberrie, Both your HP profile and one random hub I checked are both verified. But we knew that already since your sweet face show up on Search results.
By the way, anyone can check if they are verified for Google authorship by using their Rich Snippets Test Tool at http://www.google.com/webmasters/tools/richsnippets -- just test your HP profile and one hub.
Thanks, Glenn Stok!It is nice to have it verified!Thanks for writing the how-to hub.
You're welcome. I actually had just updated that Hub to reflect the new and easier method with the new HP profiles. I was working on it till 3 in the morning since I saw a lot of people who claimed Google authorship in the past had come back to review how to do it now. So I updated it for that -- it's much more simple now.
I just came back on tonight to check the forum and saw paradigmsearch's request for me to post the link. You beat me to it. Thanks for posting it.
I see you had success with Google displaying your image in search results. Me too.
Isn't the new HP profile wonderful? I see so many people complaining about it in the other forums, but they miss the important features like this one.
Hello Glenn. I use used the rich snippets testing tool from your hub and although the tool pulls up my name and Google links, under Author is now shows Unverified. It used to be verified before the Profile change. Do we have to now figure out how to get verified again?
I guess you figured it out since you posted this question, because I checked and you are verified.
I see a number of people who claimed Google Authorship by the alternative method and never changed to the new method.
Google supported the alternative method for people who were on sites where they had no control via HTML. Now that HP does it for us in the new profile layout, all one has to do is plug in their Google URL into the proper field, as you had done since your post.
Hmmm, glad you see it. I must not be using the test tool correctly then. I still get the Unverified authorship on the bottom 2 results on the page.
I just tried it again with your profile and it IS verified. But I also see that you left rel=author in you URL. HP takes care of the authorship markup now, with the new HP profile, so you should remove that tag. Just use your Google URL without any additional tags. Then let me know if you still see those two errors.
I made the change on my profile you suggested, It made a difference on the second part of the test page. The google profile links in the tool (last verification) does not change to verified. Does this matter?
It's strange that I don't see the same that you see in the test. Can you cut and paste the results so I can see what you see? I'm shutting down for the night right now but I'll check to see if you replied tomorrow. And hopefully I'll have an answer for you.
Sure Glenn. Have a good night. I will place the image here.
That's really weird because when I put your HP profile URL into Google's Rich Snippets test, it shows that you are verified. Maybe you need to clear your cache. You might be seeing a cached version in your browser. Let me know if that soves the problem.
I see that it is verified as well. Must be the cache.
OK, thanks guys. I will try that then. Ever since the profile change I am seeing a flood of blue arrows! My main hub for the season is doing well, except from Google.
I switched to the new profile about a month ago when we were first able to voluntarily upgrade to it. And my traffic went up shortly after that. But today I noticed a bunch of blue arrows also.
So whatever's causing your loss of traffic today may be the same thing that I'm experiencing. Since I had the new profile for such a long time already, I really doubt it is the cause of the blue arrows.
I get a bunch of blue arrows from time to time, and then at other times I have a bunch of up arrows. Traffic comes and goes for many unknown reasons.
I must confess, I like the look of it. What I don't like is:
(a) the link to my RSS feed is invisible - and I can't provide a hyperlink to it in my profile "blurb" instead. That means I lose the opportunity for regular readers (who don't want to join HubPages to follow me).
(b) the average reader will struggle to work out how to contact me - it took me ages to work out where it was myself!
(c) readers can't search within my Hubs. Instead, they have to use the man search box, which means they're presented with Hubs on the same topic by other Hubbers, which means I may lose the reader to someone else.
These three things make it less likely that a reader will engage with me. How do you feel about those features?
I normally get an email every day or two from people asking advice after reading my hubs.. So I had to actually spell it out in my profile introduction before the "more" button so that people can contact me.. they would never find it otherwise
I agree with you on everything - I think the new profile looks great, but the lack of a "local search" facility is bonkers. Why get rid of something so useful, which takes up hardly any space?
(a) I see you are not using Twitter. My solution is to use Twitter for those who don't want to sign up with HubPages but who still want a way to follow me. I give those followers more than they bargained for since I not only tweet my own hubs, but I tweet other hubs when I find something I feel is useful.
(b) I agree with that. I don't like it either that the "Contact Hubber by email" link is hidden away in the Fan Mail page. But there must be a good reason for their decision. Maybe to avoid too much direct email that we can't possibly have the time to reply to anyway. Some Hubbers have thousands of followers. Imagine if even a small percentage of them found it too easy to email direct.
(c) You may be missing the point. You now may be getting MORE traffic from people searching via the search box and finding YOUR hubs. Before you just got traffic from your own readers.
I do have a Twitter account, I missed adding it so thanks for pointing it out.
I have thousands of followers and I am not bombarded with emails.
I don't expect to get a lot of traffic from people searching within my profile. I just want to keep my bounce rate low, by keeping readers within my sub-domain a bit longer. If they arrive at my profile then use the big search box to look for a topic, I'm likely to lose them sooner.
As you say, there must be a good reason for HubPages' decision and I can take a guess. Almost every recent change has been designed to de-emphasize us as writers, and put the emphasis back on HubPages as one big site.
- Our presence is less obvious even on our own Hubs (much smaller author box)
- It's no longer possible to sign up for the RSS feed of a single author
- It's no longer easy to contact an individual author (you have to know where to look)
- It's no longer possible to search within an individual author's work
Of course, it's HubPages' privilege to do that, because it's their site. Can't say I'm entirely happy about it.
As far as not getting many direct emails, I know. Most people don't send direct emails to authors anyway. As I mentioned before I am in agreement with you on the fact that this link is no longer on the profile page but instead is hidden in the fan page.
On the topic of bounce rate: I see what you mean. We could lose people searching for something and then clicking away. But on the other hand we could gain new readers who are searching for something that we wrote about, and they end up finding our hubs. See what I mean?
I know you have your opinion about de-emphasizing us as writers, but I have to disagree with you. HubPages wants to make money, true. They are in business to make money. That is no secret. It's their site. But they will make money only if they help us make money. Remember that the income is shared 60/40.
I have read about many of the changes that I see HP doing over the past couple of years, prior to the changes, in Google's webmaster blogs. Many of these things I have tested on my own business site long before HP did it. When Google made suggestions, I went ahead and tried experiments. Much of it helped improve traffic to my site. So I'm not surprised that HP is following Google's suggestions too.
Some things take a while to take effect. And there is one thing that's a major difference between my personal business site and HP. That is that when I follow Google's guidelines I'm doing it for myself. But when HP does it, it's for an entire community of subdomains with differing levels of unrelated content. I'm not sure if this makes any difference, but it may change the behavior of the methods implemented. So try to be patient. HP is working hard at trying to find solutions that make things successful for all of us.
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