Job for Quality Writers

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   Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years ago

   I am in need of Good writers. I will give you a job. If you are interested please do skype me: My ID: Ahsanejaz2
   
   Only quality workers aply.

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      page1articlesposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It would help if you defined what kind of writers you need, what kind of project(s) that you need writers for. It would also help if post didn't appear like an ad for a sleezy, substandard, SEO mill. Just saying...

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Might be useful if you gave an indication of what you are willing to pay. This will save your time and that of others since only those willing to work for your suggested rates will think about contacting you.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   Or what kind of writing, good writers tend to be specialists.
   
   Absence of specifics makes me tend to assume it is for something like a paper mill.

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   Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years ago

   It depends on your quality and words. But, we will not pay less than $4 for each article. More details will be on skype interview.
   
   Feel free to Apply.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   So at $4 per article, even if we look at a fairly minimalist "article" of 200 words, you are looking to pay writers 2 cents per word
   
   Perhaps you are not aware, but if you want something more than "Engrish" nonsense produced by an automated spinner, copywriting rates for decent writers in developed countries are in the range 10-20 cents per word.

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      Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      lol, well than this job isn't for you.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Certainly not! I am not a monkey and therefore do not work for peanuts.

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      Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I guess you are wasting both your and my time. People are do contacting me.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Unfortunately, some people do not have respect for their talent and are happy to work for peanuts.

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            Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I guess some people do think they have talent and they are better than others but in real they are nothing. lol

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               Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I hope you realize you are insulting some of the best and most talented writers on this site.  WriteAngled  and UnivitedWriter are both very respected here and have a right to command appropriate pay for their work. And, as a longtime writer, I can tell you that $4 an article is not the 'going' rate in the USA. Freelancers (quality writers) in good markets here get many times that amount.

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                  Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  I am sorry. I don't want to insult anyone. Actually, I have said that we don't pay less than $4 for 250 words article. We have also paid $15, $20 and $40 per article. I have mentioned before that it depends on Quality.
                  
                  Anyway, I am out of here. I think I have wasted my time here, I can get quality writers on Freelancing site.
                  
                  Thanks,

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                  gmwilliamsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  It sure isn't.  $4.00 is totally inane.   No one in their correct thinking mind is going to take his offer.  This poster is totally wasting everyone's time here.  My advice to him is begone and begone quickly!

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                  Paul Maplesdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Indeed. I run a professional proofreading, editing and writing agency, so am pretty aware of rates in the field.
                  
                  To the original poster, if you want a professional, with expertise in the field to write a well researched, in-depth article on their area of expertise, you can expect to pay anywhere between £30 and £50 ($45  to $75) an hour for their time.
                  
                  The actual amount will vary depending on their experience and expertise, but if you want to find high-quality writers that can really bring insight, depth and value to an article, you do need to pay for that.
                  
                  Writing is a professional service, just like accountancy, the law, IT or many other fields. Although people perceive writing as having a 'low barrier to entry', the truth is that quality does vary enormously, and clients learn very quickly if you aren't worth the money you charge. Hence those of us that have been doing this for a little while are fairly confident in the rates that we charge, because we know that our clients are willing to pay for that value.
                  
                  If you are after very cheap rates, and don't care about quality, I am sure you will find freelance sites out there, however, HP is not a great place to look!

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                  Sarra Garrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  It's sad isn't it?  There is no pay for quality writers therefore everything is outsourced overseas.  I know I'm not going to write a 500 article for $1.00 it's a waste of my time.

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         psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Quality writer,sir, do not write generic articles for an anonymous company paying less than minimum wage.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   I am so happy for you and them. I am sure you will get the quality content you merit for the payment offered.

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   SAM ELDERposted 12 years ago

   Before you give someone a piece of your mind, make sure you can get by with what is left.

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      SoundNFuryposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I'm guessing health benefits and a 401k are off the table.

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   WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

   Well, I guess the baseline for how people judge their talent is what they actually earn on a routine basis.
   
   I do not bother to switch on my computer for less than $40 per hour when I work for others. It tends to be more than that most of the time.
   
   I guess this thread should join the other dead ones on how people here should lose time and money by offering to help edit/translate material written by ESLs out of the goodness of our hearts!

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Of course, someone paying Pakistani rates will probably be able to attract a lot of quality writers from Pakistan and neighbouring countries.
    
    That is to say, "quality" by Pakistani criteria...

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Of course, you can get writers on Freelancer.
    
    Their quality is a matter for a separate discussion.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

    I am interested.  Subject to an introductory fee of ten dollars, which is what I charge for introducing myself, we may be able to start on a path of mutual benefit.  I expect sole rights in the Cayman Islands and a non refundable up front one hundred dollars deposit per article.  All content to remain the property of Crown Estates Inc. and with the name of Stella Gibson clearly shown as the author and rightful heir pursuant.  In the event of subsequent legal claims I require you to lodge deposits to the value of 500,000 US dollars in the Jersey Bank of Gibson and Son.
    
    In return I can guarantee you an income not exceeding ten dollars a month.

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       Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for your application but I have clearly stated that "Quality Writers Only" Sorry :p

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          Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          lol.... fair play

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             Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             That was a joke don't mind me.

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          psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          You write badly, get insulted easily, and can't take a joke.  And this is on top of not specifying what the job is and not paying professional rates.  if you are surprised by the response you have received here, well you shouldn't be.

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             Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I am glad you visit my article I got 1 view, it will help me in my earning ^_^.
             
             I don't consider myself a good writer. English isn't my mothertongue, I am still learning it.
             
             Yes, I am do surprised, that is why moving to freelancing sites.
             
             Thanks all and I do apologize if my words hurt someone.

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          benashirazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Salam O laikum. Maine ap ko skype pay add kiya. (:

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Mark is one of the highest quality contributors on Hubpages currently.

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       Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I know he is I was just kidding. Just replyin to a joke. No offence.

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          Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          None taken. I played, you played back - we are cool.

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    DreamerMegposted 12 years ago

    I see that you are putting comments in other hubbers' posts stating that you have a job for them and asking them not to approve the comment?

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       Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Oh yeah, I offered 1-2 person but later on I see that there is a forum.. I did that because I see no message or contact of him.

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Well, I hope you have realised that this is not a place to get slave labour at pathetic rates.
    
    The third world spammers here, who might possibly be interested in your appalling rates of pay, are too busy spinning their c__p on mesothlioma, lawyers, insurance and other high-price keywords to frequent the forums.
    
    Quality writers in the first world would not demean themselves to write an article for $4 or $10.

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    DzyMsLizzyposted 12 years ago

    How can someone who lacks a grasp of proper English grammar and sentence structure hope to judge what is and is not "quality" writing in the first place?
    
    I smell a scam.

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       Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I woudn't judge it, I have a team of professional and quality assurance.

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          psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I would suggest they make the online posts on behalf of your enterprise.  Because you are its public face and your communications... are not suggestive of quality writing.

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       gmwilliamsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Already reported OP.

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    I take great pleasure in pointing out reality to people like this.
    
    My email is spammed every day by similar losers from the same part of the world thinking they are going to make a killing running a translation agency from whatever doorstep they are inhabiting, despite not knowing the first thing about the industry.
    
    Each time I turn down a job offer in my specialized field from such bottom feeders, I smile. I think of how they are going to sweat when they have to explain to the end client, who mistakenly hired them because of their rock bottom prices, that they cannot get anyone to do the work.  Otherwise, I imagine how they will send in a god-awful machine translation submitted by a loser like themselves, because they cannot tell the difference between c__p and quality.
    
    I am so happy that globalization does not work in the fields that concern me.

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       Ahsan Ejazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Don't let me insult you, go check your articles first.

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    MelissaBarrettposted 12 years ago

    Despite the near-hate speech provincialism displayed in some of these answers, I agree with the general feeling that 4 dollars is too little to pay for an article.
    
    Online writing/content writing that is considered "expensive" at 40 bucks per pop is already excessively low paying in the field of freelance writing (where you can expect .50 cents to 2.00 per word). Four dollars per article for a "professional" article is pretty bad.
    
    Hell, I charge 1.00 a word for an obituary and that's standard for the work.

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       Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       So a four dollar article might be "Here is a toaster".
       
       Very interested in what you are saying about a dollar a word Melissa.  To me, that is a small fortune, given my usual article return.

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          Paul Maplesdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Although if it were an obituary, it would be "There was a toaster"...

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             Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             THAT's why I didn't get the gig.

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             Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Or maybe, "So & so is now toast." 
             
             I know - bad joke.  Sorry!

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                DrMark1961posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                "Take this job and ...."
                Sorry, I wanted to write more but I ran out of credit.

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          MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          People get so wrapped up in either content writing (internet) or magazine/newspaper writing (print) that they forget about all the other crap that needs to be written by somebody.
          
          Those little informational brochures you see at restaurants/truck-stops/gas stations about local attractions? Those are usually paid for by the state tourism board. (Along with a buttload of other brochures and pamphlets at actual site).  Those jobs are often hired out with the actual writing being 30-50 percent of total budget allocation for the pamphlet.  If you have some rudimentary graphics arts skills, then you can pretty much count on the 50 percent.  The rest going for printing and distribution.
          
          Menus in restaurants, obituaries, church bulletins, catalog descriptions, government publications, hotel/bed and breakfast directories (You know, the what's nearby book that no one reads), product assembly instructions, etc. Writers write that stuff.  There's very little competition for the jobs too, especially in rural/under-educated areas.
          
          If say, a local hotel wants a "what to do in the area guide" and is willing to pay $750 for the project and you have enough skills to throw print and photos together AND know a good printer then the whole project is yours...  I've done them before using Microsoft Publisher, they take about 8 hours to put together and two trips to the printer.

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    gmwilliamsposted 12 years ago

    Reported him.  He is trying to promote a business, he wants to employ people to write for him.  Promotion of business of any kind is not allowed in the forums.

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Well, I certainly don't charge the dollar a word Melissa cites for my translation work. An average day's earning for me is only about $200-300, although I am lucky in having more work offered to me than I can handle so never have downtime.
    
    Perhaps I am in the wrong industry though, since it takes me far less time to write a given number of words than to translate them. At my translation output, I would be looking at $2000 per day minimum at a dollar a word, so as a writer I should expect $3000+ per day?

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       MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       If you are writing obits, are personable enough for someone to hire and 15 people die that day (and all are being buried by the funeral home you have a relationship with)... and you can fire off 15 warm-hearted and caring obits, then sure.

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       Paul Maplesdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Our proofreading / editing rates are broadly in line with your translation rates WA; we charge a bit more per hour for writing, but not substantially.
       
       Melissa, that's an interesting idea about the small businesses looking for that, how would one go about finding such work?

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          MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I stumbled onto the obit work... For the business directories... cold calling.  Sorry.  It's going to work only on non-franchised hotels/businesses though.  The franchises usually have their in-house people. 
          
          Make up a sample or two for the directory with generic hotel information/services/sample emergency exit maps etc. then the stuff to do goes behind that.  All pages are laminated and generally spiral bound.

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             Paul Maplesdenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Good advice, never thought about cold calling for writing before!

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                MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                LOL... Here's one up on that.  If you want to do for bed and breakfasts (who have smaller budgets) do for free and sell advertising space in the directories for local businesses.

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             Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Just as you stumbled on the obit gig, I was recruited out of the blue to write responses for conflict resolution (I'm trained as a mediator); they're never very long - a few paragraphs, and take maybe 15 minutes, and they pay &5o for each letter - more if there are complications.
             
             Here are a few examples of payments I've gotten for various types of writing:
             
             - $125-$150 for 900-1200 word articles for monthly magazines (BTW - all the writers felt that was too low)
             - $500 for a short business proposal (crafting the text based on what the business wanted to do)
             - $50 - very short conflict resolution pieces
             - $300 - two very short news releases (a while back - would be more now)
             - $250 - short (900-word) travel piece for major daily newspaper
             - $75 - short (900-word) article for national youth religious magazine (I donated it back to them & took the write-off; couldn't bring myself to take money from my church).
             
             By far, the more lucrative part of my writing career has been staff positions, mostly for various governmental agencies. They were demanding jobs, but I learned a lot & the positions all came with very good pay, full benefits and great retirement plans. No regrets at all.

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    psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

    In my experience pro-rates started at about 5c a word and can go sky high from there.  But that would tend to be a specialist market hiring an experienced specialist writer.

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    IDONOposted 12 years ago

    Is this Hubpages or Craig's List?

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       benashirazposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Hahah.

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    shlomovakninposted 12 years ago

    People, you do realize it's April's Fool day, right?!

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       Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Well, I wrote my post on March 29th. and the OP probably doesn't have the April 1st tradition where he lives.  Nor, apparently, is there a tradition of being courteous to others.

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    My articles are fine, thank you.
    
    One of my pieces here was Hub of the Day last week.
    
    I have in the past also published academic papers in scientific journals, as well as articles for the general public in magazines.
    
    However, I prefer to play with words as a translator at the moment, since that pays well and brings me more work than I can accept without any marketing on my part. Participating in HP is what I do when I want a break from work.
    
    I think you need to check your articles going by this sentence:
    
    "So your successfully done with high school and just got in to college and realize that you are having a hard time keeping your head afloat."

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    sen.sush23posted 12 years ago

    Wow! But you must appreciate his gumption! He did manage to get you all involved seriously and consider the 'worm' he dangled for you, and also start pitting against each other ...
    
    Hilarious!

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Pitting against each other for what in particular? I don't think anyone was trying to get commissioned
    
    All we did was give examples of the level of payment at which we might consider accepting a project.

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       sen.sush23posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       You (meaning, some of you) sounded pretty intent..sorry, did I sound rude? Let's hug....
       Its April Fool's Day after all!...

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    WriteAngledposted 12 years ago

    Hmmm, well I get incensed about attempts to drive down rates, so yes I make my points on that topic forcefully. If freelance professionals do not stand up for themselves and insist on fair pay, we will all end up in the gutter scratching for a miserable living.
    
    That is why I always speak out against people who try to exploit writers or translators, by offering lousy rates or, even worse, by suggesting they might want to do the work for free in order to "get their name known" or "earn good karma".
    
    The most infuriating thing is that no one would think of approaching a solicitor, plumber, accountant, builder or other freelancers in other fields and offer them despicable rates or ask for free work. However, writers, and translators also at times, are seen by many as hobbyists or people who only want to get a little pin money for frivolities. To people who think like this, it is perfectly OK to insult writers/translators by offering them peanuts for their work.
    
    Anyway, I need to get back to translating a long article about pesticides ....

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       SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       One of the biggest problems is that accountants, plumbers etc. often have qualifications and/or a proven track record therefore, as you mentioned, no one would approach them. Sadly there are millions of writers who have no credentials, no experience and no proven track record as serious writers therefore freelancers feel they can offer 'low wages' simply due to the lack of experience and qualifications.
       
       For every professional writer (and there are perhaps ten or twenty I would consider that on HP) there are thousands of average writers like myself who often consider themselves professional. I am not a professional writer - I am a hobby writer.
       
       That's not to say that I would accept a job for an article for $4 - the minimum I would accept as an average writer is $20 for 500 - not a huge amount per word, but with my experince and skill level, I feel perfectly acceptable.

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          Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I feel there are more professiinal writers than we realize on HP - but some are not active in the community, so they're not visible.  We also have very skilled 'hobbyists,' as you put it, Simey. 
          
          The ones who drag us down are those who think that because they have a keyboard and access to the Internet, they are writers.  Facebook and Twittef haven't helped matters - there's a huge difference between posting things on social networks, or even blogging, and being a competent professional writer. 
          
          Unfortunately, people think they can get quality work for peanuts.  And they pay people who produce junk or who steal the content from elsewhere.  Yes, some of the $4 articles are good quality, produced by people who aren't in an area that commands higher rates, but much is really bad writing.
          
          Worse yet - good.content is sold by thieves, and the original writer does not get the credit or money.  Some of my content here was sold to a guy who needed a particular topic on his website.  I contacted him, and he removed it - but both of us were ripped off.

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             SimeyCposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             "I feel there are more professiinal writers than we realize on HP" - agreed - the numbers I quoted were of people I know who earn as a professional writer - not have professional qualities - there are hundreds if not thousands of professional writers here.
             
             "Unfortunately, people think they can get quality work for peanuts" As with anything in life -you get what you pay for.
             
             "The ones who drag us down are those who think that because they have a keyboard and access to the Internet, they are writers" Exactly - the 'average' writer I mentioned are not in this category - there are sadly a lot of 'writers' (who don't merit the accolade average!) who string together a few words and get paid the $4 ..... at the end of the day this type of writing won't be that successful anyway!

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    gaplumberposted 12 years ago

    Oh good grief, sometimes the best reply in no reply.

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    SAM ELDERposted 12 years ago

    Whoever debases others is debasing himself/herself. Few comments sounded like racial discrimination and it's sad....

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       Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry - I do not think standing up for the integrity of our native language and the right to have fair wages for quality work is 'racially' based.

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          psycheskinnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          I think, perhaps, the reference is to some implied denigration of the people of Pakistan. I think some comments were flying pretty close to the wind on that one.

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             Marcy Goodfleischposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             I see your point - just hoping concerns over language skills do not get construed as biases against other populations. Or get phrased that way.

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    Savio Dawsonposted 12 years ago

    Honestly, I have no specific burning reason to post here, but just a word of caution... Someday all writing work will also be outsourced to third world countries and then the english they write, will be standard english...... Just a thought... Just for fun!! :-) :-)

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