Whenever I open the forums, I see countless threads by the same people, many of them unanswered or with only a couple of comments. I would love to see a limit on how many threads the same person can open daily. I often have to go to page 2 or 3 to see what else people are discussing/asking.
Also a number of these threads should be started in topical forums rather than the HP related forums.
Sorry if there's already a thread on this. I couldn't find one.
I certainly would agree with this. Too many people simply post to post and get attention. I doubt if they even come back to their posts.
The mistake, I think, is at one point I remember reading that one way to draw views to your profile and hubs was to post in the forums.....so abuse is there now.
Yes, I think so. I understand posting a thread for discussion, but when there are 3,4,5 threads opened the same day, it appears to be spammy and self-promotional.
The above may also explain why there are numerous examples of people offering advice that is - incorrect or incomplete or even echoing what someone has said just a couple of comments before.
Oh, thank you. I am so glad someone said it. I agree with Dale's comment that HP is encouraging this type of behavior by rewarding it. You get the behaviors you reward.
Are we arguing for stopping Free Speech here? my view NO!
Not at all. Often these threads are duplicate type topics asked or presented in a different way but are saying the same thing by the same person.
There are already multiple limits on free speech here -- if not we would be be neck deep in spam and trolling
No, we're asking for a measure which would ensure genuine discussions get the attention they deserve.
Most people who start multiple threads in a day are not genuine. They're attention-seekers.
Damn right, restrict them!
If their topic doesn't interest me, why the hell should I have to spend a second or two scrolling past them!
Why should I have to wait for the minutes it takes for more recently commented topics to push them off the page?
And no spitting on the sidewalk either!
I don't have a problem with people posting on topics that don't interest me. However, if someone is posting to have genuine discussion, they're not likely to post more than three or four brand new threads in a day.
We're not talking about those here - or at least I don't think we are. We're talking about the borderline spammers who post multiple puerile, attention-seeking threads asking inane questions - usually in the wrong category. They do it in questions, too. A limit - even a generous limit - would keep those in check.
I know right now we have some logic that looks for how long it has been since you posted to handle some automated posts, etc. but I am not aware of a daily limit per se.
How many max per day would you think is reasonable?
A few people have mentioned 3-5 max per day.
Would a 5 forum post per day limit feel too restrictive to some people?
5 forum POSTs seems somewhat restrictive...the ability to start 5 forum theads per day seems generous.
Matthew, I'm not sure what you mean by your first sentence, in regard to automated posts. If someone starts a thread, they should definitely be moderating it and responding if necessary. I'm sure many of us are not sitting all day on the forums and may not get back to a thread for a while.
I think 3-4 forum threads opened by the same hubber in one day is reasonable if they're not all the same topic or a question asked the day before in a slightly different way. Maybe a pop up warning could alert the hubber that they already opened a similar thread. 5 threads opened a day is very generous in my opinion. Often these threads have no/few responses and they take up space.
Thanks for asking. It would be helpful to hear other opinions.
What makes 5 a magic number?
If an action is enough of a problem to need to be restricted - why not 2 or 3? Or if 5 seems tolerable, why not 10?
And what about hubbers that everyone considers credible - could they earn an extra couple new threads, (above "average" hubbers), based on their reputation?
Of course if this is such a serious problem for so many hubbers, why not just nip it in the bud and restrict everyone to one new thread per day?
That should make it easier for you to find the gems that you think are appropriate - without having to wade through the trash that others don't know better than to respond to.
As Susana said, it's OPENING threads that should be limited. I don't think there should be any limit on participating in existing threads.
We discussed this in our community meeting today and have decided not to implement this feature at this time.
I think this is a great idea, since I have seen a lot of threads started by the same Hubber every day. It gets annoying, as the 'real' discussions are being pushed down onto Page Two or Three. It isn't a huge problem, but more restrictions should be put in place as spammy forum threads are being started for no reason.
I wouldn't classify this as restrictive or infringing on someone's freedom of speech. It's simply a suggestion in regard to forum policies. HP has basic guidelines for the forums of which I'm sure many have never read. There's enough trolling in the forums.
Just an opinion, I hope you don't mind, but you have to remember that old adage, "It takes all kinds." It is very possible that if it weren't for certain ppl who enjoy starting a lot of threads, the forum might become increasingly sterile. It's like the circle of life... you could kill all the flies, but what would happen to the environment as a result? I personally don't mind scrolling... I'd rather everyone feel welcome. As far as motive, it may not be so devious as suspected... it could simply be loneliness. I would imagine we all could reach into our hearts and imagine all sorts of situations that might cause a person to want or need to post often. If all the techies stopped posting, we'd be worse off, same with the topical, the ppl's who barely speak English and even the Religious and Atheists. This forum is just a really big, little neighborhood. Tolerance and acceptance is necessary. Even the trolls have a part... I personally enjoy them quite a bit. lol
When HP separated the forums into HP related and Topical, it was for the reason that some hubbers like to browse the HP related threads without seeing the more political, social, off topic forum threads and vice versa. Some don't like seeing all the traffic woe threads, etc. Fine. Then HP made the Sandpit forum into the Community and Freeform Discussion forums. So now the HP related forums still have political, social, etc threads. It makes sense that if someone wants to discuss social/political issues that the threads are categorized under that topic. I'm simply making a suggestion. Perhaps the issue could be resolved if non HP topical threads can only be started in the topical forums.
HP have this standard response to all suggestions made on the forums:
"We discussed this in our community meeting today and have decided not to implement this feature at this time."
Why bother suggesting anything ever again?
I agree with you that it is frustrating to even bother suggesting things in the forums since very little is approved.
by TheGlassSpider 13 years ago
Since there's a place for suggestions...What about an option for starting a thread and inviting specific people to it? Public and Private threads, in other words. That way people could debate a topic without interference, work on a hub project together...other things I probably haven't thought of...
by x 4 years ago
Is it a trend or is it being initiated by HP? Just curious.
by Brenda Durham 10 years ago
I just noticed that there are advertisements underneath the threads in the forums. Is that normal?
by Sa Toya 13 years ago
what do yo think...lately it's all changed a bit..then again could just be me.
by Lionrhod 9 years ago
There are a lot of us who haven't been feeling safe on the forums. They've felt stalked, harassed and browbeaten.Sadly, some folks go with the letter of the law, but not the spirit of it in their posts.For an excellent post on why we need Forum Moderators, check out what Makingamark says here...
by Susan Keeping 11 years ago
I don't get why it is necessary. Doesn't mean they will get any more attention.
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