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Rank08 Host Located

  1. Writer Fox profile image78
    Writer Foxposted 4 years ago

    Rank08.com, one of the websites duplicating the entire HP website and hiding its hosting company behind the reverse proxy host CloudFlare, is hosted by a company owned by IBM.  I just got an email back from CloudFlare and the host is:

    SoftLayer Technologies
    4849 Alpha Road
    Dallas, Texas

    Send DMCA requests to:
    abuse@softlayer.com

    If you have a Hub, it's plagiarized on Rank08.

    1. wilderness profile image95
      wildernessposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Well done and thanks!  Off to file.

      1. JMcFarland profile image89
        JMcFarlandposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I just found my hubs there.  What information needs to be included to file?

        1. Writer Fox profile image78
          Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Fill in the blanks with your information and send to the email address I gave above:

          Pursuant to 17 USC 512(c)(3)(A), this communication serves as a statement that:
          I am the exclusive rights holder of articles on the [http:// yoursubdomain .hubpages.com] website and the owner and author of the following articles, posted on www.HubPages.com:

          [List all of your Hub URLS – I used alphabetical order]

          These exclusive rights are being violated by material available upon a site you are hosting at the following URLs:

          [List each plagiarized URL:  http://      www.  rank08.com/ etc.
          Use the same order you used to list your Hubs.]

          In fact, the site you are hosting is scraping the entire HubPages.com site in real-time.

          My request to rank08.com to remove my content has been unanswered.

          This is my contact information:

          [List a name – It's supposed to be your real, legal name
          address
          telephone number
          email]

          I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above as allegedly infringing is not authorized by me, the copyright owner, its agent, or the law. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

          I hereby request that you remove or disable access to this material as it appears on your service in as expedient a fashion as possible.

          I trust that you will discontinue hosting my plagiarized content on rank08.com  website.

          [Put the same name you used above at the end.  This is 'signing' the notice and is required.]

          1. Alisha Adkins profile image92
            Alisha Adkinsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you for this information.  I started to compose an e-mail to softlayer.com, but after laboriously cutting and pasting the first 10 links to my stolen material, I erroneously hit a key and my entire e-mail was eaten.  I can't stand to start over just now -- it's going to take me hours.  I feel for hubbers with 100+ copied hubs to report.
            The ENTIRE HubPages site is copied at  rank08.com.  Can't HubPages handle this on the behalf of its users?  Reporting these scraping sites  is in HubPages' best interest, and having every single user report individually is horribly inefficient.

            1. galleryofgrace profile image81
              galleryofgraceposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Hp is allowing it! Probably they're profiting from the ads.

              1. Alisha Adkins profile image92
                Alisha Adkinsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Seriously?

          2. BStoneBlog profile image81
            BStoneBlogposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you! Just sent off my request using your template. Fingers crossed!

    2. Cardisa profile image90
      Cardisaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      WF, I followed your instructions as per the other forum post about requesting lost revenue. I also filed the DCMA.

      1. Writer Fox profile image78
        Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you.  Short of a staff member of HP filing, the more Hubbers who file will increase the chances of the site being taken down by the host. I hope the entire site will be removed, not just those of us who filed about our individual Hubs.

    3. VinitaAmrit profile image83
      VinitaAmritposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Why do I see a page of  http://www.hawkhost.com/ when I type Rank08.com in my address bar? - Has the domain been called off? If anyone can figure that out pls do let us know as well.

      1. Writer Fox profile image78
        Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Hawk Host is a reseller of hosting services from SoftLayer.  That's how the plagiarist site was hosted. The Rank08 content has been removed thanks to everyone who filed the DMCA notices. Hawk Host is now displaying a page saying that the URL has no content.

  2. Angie Martin profile image80
    Angie Martinposted 4 years ago

    Thanks so much for the info! After calling and complaining and filing DMCA complaints, I found that my "page" is no longer a mirror one that is updated as I update my hubs here at HP. I don't know if that's the way it is for everyone's page, but at least they've stopped the mirroring portion of the site. Off to file yet another DMCA notice!

  3. Daughter Of Maat profile image97
    Daughter Of Maatposted 4 years ago

    Softlayer technologies was the same company that hosted Bigezines when that site copied all of HP. Am I seeing a trend here?

    Off to file another DMCA myself.

  4. ologsinquito profile image92
    ologsinquitoposted 4 years ago

    Thank you for all of your hard work in this matter Writer Fox.

    1. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You're welcome.  The host has another 24 hours to respond and the owner of the site can still object.  It's not over yet.  Keep those DMCA requests rolling in.  Remember, they may just take down the content of the people who file and leave the rest online, which hurts traffic to all of HubPages.

  5. sparkleyfinger profile image92
    sparkleyfingerposted 4 years ago

    I have sent the email. As rank08 doesn't seem to have a search facility, I only saw one of my hubs, but i listed all of the URLs in my email. I haven't spent the time trapesing their site to find all of my articles, but I have little doubt that they are there, so I figure, let them do the work!

  6. ZachKaer profile image88
    ZachKaerposted 4 years ago

    Can someone explain how to report these sites? I barely started on here and have found my GIMP tutorials on other sites already. Where do I go and what steps do I take to try and stop this?

  7. ZachKaer profile image88
    ZachKaerposted 4 years ago

    going to a category and press ctrl+f will help you find your hubs...just an fyi
    that's how i found mine.

    1. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The information is posted above on this thread and the wording of the email to send.

      1. ZachKaer profile image88
        ZachKaerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks Writer Fox I just scrolled past your post first time smile

  8. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 4 years ago

    I looked through for one of mine ....

    [1] I saw no ads showing on their pages
    [2] quite a few hubs were translated into French (automatically) .... I found the one I was looking for in French.

  9. Reality Bytes profile image89
    Reality Bytesposted 4 years ago

    Going through the topics to find my own hubs, they are there.  When I click the link it brings me to my own page on HP. 

    The links of others leads to a duplicate of the hub with no ads.  Some are even translated into other languages. 

    Am I the only one being directed back to HP?

  10. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 4 years ago

    I have filed a DMCA.  For those with a long list of urls and MS Word, you can copy your list by doing this:

    In Hubpages, select the whole stats page.
    Paste it into Word and it'll appear in a table (certainly in Word 2003)
    Select each column in turn and choose Table, Delete Column, leaving you only with your titles.
    Now save that as an .html file using: File, Save As - save it anywhere/to your Desktop and in the filetype dropdown choose .html
    Find that file on your PC and open it up from your browser (File, Open)
    Ctrl A to Select All and Ctrl C to copy.  Then Ctrl V to paste it into your email.

    1. sparkleyfinger profile image92
      sparkleyfingerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      awwwh! I just done it all the hard way!!!!

      1. earner profile image86
        earnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Well, you've learnt a lesson.... being lazy and slow will mean somebody will present a solution that makes it easier ....

        smile

        1. sparkleyfinger profile image92
          sparkleyfingerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          That is a very valuable lesson! Thank you! smile

    2. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      You need the actual URL, not the Hub title.

      1. earner profile image86
        earnerposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        It clicks through, it's an html link..... and I wasn't going to track down 200+ urls myself.  I've got another 100+ hubs under another name that I CBA to do it with.

        Low traffic = low motivation to spend hours faffing.

        1. Writer Fox profile image78
          Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Believe me, I'm on your side.  Hope it works.  And yes, it's a time bandit when HP could be doing this for everyone.

  11. LCDWriter profile image95
    LCDWriterposted 4 years ago

    Does it seem to be down now?

  12. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 4 years ago

    Yes the site has been taken down by the host.

    1. Angie Martin profile image80
      Angie Martinposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Finally! Woo-hoo!!  smile

    2. FatFreddysCat profile image91
      FatFreddysCatposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      "And there was much rejoicing (Yaaaaaay)"

      Seriously, great work everyone. Another one bites the digital curb....

  13. earner profile image86
    earnerposted 4 years ago

    I bubbled this, with a link to Writer Fox' profile.  Thus sending some good karma/traffic (potentially) in his/her (?) general direction.

    Thanks for making it easy.

    1. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Cool!
      So glad that site is down.  Turns out it was also redirected through an affiliate host.

      Don't write this guy off forever, though.  Unfortunately, people like that have a high reincarnation rate.

  14. Astra Nomik profile image73
    Astra Nomikposted 4 years ago

    Here is a weird question... but how hard would it be to add some kind of encryption to Hub Pages to stop it from being so easily scraped by software that copies web content. If search engines and other companies can encrypt search engine results, surely HP can encrypt hubs and make them unscrapeable.

    This whole rank and file theft of other people's content is driving people away from hub pages as a writer community. The theft will damage HP's name in the world. Something should be done. But what IS being done?

  15. chef-de-jour profile image89
    chef-de-jourposted 4 years ago

    That's an interesting question. If encryption is only a matter of cost then would it be worth a cent each for this to be done by HP, thus safeguarding all our hard work.

    Or is encryption simply not doable on our hubs? I'm not technically expert enough to know if anyhting like this can be done or if the idea is dead in the water?

    I'd pay a cent to guarantee 100% copyrighted material.

  16. Astra Nomik profile image73
    Astra Nomikposted 4 years ago

    Wow.. I think that answers my question. I am so happy to see the evil rank08 got sucked down in to the fires of hell.

  17. chef-de-jour profile image89
    chef-de-jourposted 4 years ago

    By the way Writer Fox, you should seriously think about being employed by HP for all the work you've done. Freelance basis?

    1. Writer Fox profile image78
      Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Thanks, but no thanks.  I agree that they need an SEO content editor but HubPages doesn't accept my advice even when it's free.  To pay for a good one in that part of the country would take a six-figure salary and HubPages is down to seven full-time employees right now.

      1. Will Apse profile image88
        Will Apseposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I don't think the role of employee would suit you. I think you would have to be the boss.

        From what you have previously said this would mean:

        Unlimited affiliate links on any page (ignore those spam warnings from Google)

        Dofollow links for all (that will get the webspammers pouring in from every corner of the web)

        The main domain would not be used to try and boost traffic for hubbers deemed worthy, or generate the income that the site needs to carry on improving.

        Mirror sites that have no impact on HP when it is healthy (and can only be detected at all when the site suffers a massive penalty) would take up most of your time as you ruthlessly hunt them down.

        I think as boss of the site you would certainly put an end to the lingering uncertainties of its future success/demise.

        1. Writer Fox profile image78
          Writer Foxposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          You need some new eye glasses, Will.  I proposed none of those things.  But I don't allow Trolls on forums I monitor.  In reviewing this forum's postings from two years ago when the site changed to Subdomains for authors, I noticed that you were called a Troll even then. Take it back under the bridge.
          http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78912?page=25

          And I know how upset you are that your Hubs were not chosen for Editor's Choice.  Perhaps if you make some improvements they will be.

          With or without an EC award (I opted out), low quality articles don't belong on a website.

 
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