How's Your Traffic Situation post Panda
Yup.
Here's my traffic through 2012 to present. Still "doom and gloom". Some say theirs is going up now, but since the heavy Panda hit on HP of a few weeks ago mine only recovers a little and then goes back down to its new "doom and gloom" bottom.
Writer Fox, thank you for responding and offering your tips and suggestions. I will go look at your tutorial hub.
. So, I think you are saying that all the sudden Google could even have found better answers than what all my high traffic hubs had been offering. Will do some looking into this.No offense to WF, but that is old advice. The game has changed and if you want to move with it, you need to be looking outside of google traffic in order to garner authority with google.
Hubpages as a site has lost authority and rankings. Most of my highly placed, well optimized, SEO perfect hubs went from 1-4 in the SERPs for their given keywords to the second or third page of results overnight, and my traffic graph, which I posted earlier, looks much the same as yours does. I don't think that can be fixed with keyword research and on page optimization.
It is not that google has found "better answers." It is that the process they use to determine what they consider to be "better," has been changed. They are now using different metrics to determine "better," and whatever it is, hubpages doesn't have it. I personally think it is "site authority," and unless you are youtube or yahoo, it is going to continue to get more difficult to generate this from a user generated platform.
At the end of the day it is all about the money. The big players want their internet back.
I don't care when you wrote it. The advice you are giving Ms Dee is wrong. I know because I have done it and it doesn't work except for certain low volume, low value search terms such as "rats problem" which actually only has 4,930 results if you search for an exact match. You think I didn't try all the standard approaches to fix my income loss here? Now - if I could find your article for "SEO tutorial" or "how to do SEO" or "learn seo" I might be impressed, but - I can't find your article anywhere for these terms.
Hubpages has gone from 1.8 million uniques a day to 700k uniques a day. And shows no signs of preventing the slide. It may be viable for you, but - I do not think Ms Dee is going to fix her traffic loss by doing keyword research and optimizing her pages, and certainly my income loss makes it not viable for me any more. I know my keyword research thanks. That is not the problem here.
Here is a real-world example for you. I am now being outranked for the term "homemade hamburgers" by this page:
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/juiciest-hamburgers-ever/
You see the words "homemade hamburgers" anywhere on that page? In the title? In the URL? In the meta description? In a search result? No amount of optimization is going to help me outrank that page.
Why not?
After reviewing comments from all the hubbers here, I am just wondering no one really knows what's actually hurting the SERPs in google search results. However, I am really interested to know about your search traffic from Yahoo! and bing.
I have a medical blog, which has a Page Rank 3 from google; before the last Panda update on May 22, I regularly got a decent amount of traffic from google for many of my keywords.
I had a few keywords (e.g. "how does the nervous system work" and "how does the lymphatic system work") that were always on the no. #1 spot of the top 3 search engines: google, yahoo and bing. However, the most interesting part is that those keywords are still in the first five search results of both yahoo and bing though I am outranked by google from page 1 to page 3. In addition, you will be amazed to know that all my keywords are still on the same position in both yahoo and bing.
For the last two months, I am just getting frustrated over and over with my Google Analytics' data; because both yahoo and bing are now the top two traffic sources and google is just dead for my blog! What's going on?
I become more curious to find out the sudden awakening of two dead bodies like yahoo and bing when I saw a sudden spike in my GA data last week. Can you tell me why these two sources suddenly started sending traffic, as they never sent much traffic to my blog?
Although, my findings may not satisfy you, as they are not based on a scientific study, but I believe they will provide you some idea about what's really going on.
Have you ever used the MOZ toolbar? If not, just download it in your browser. Now go to Google and type the keywords that were ranked at the top positions before the update.
Where is your keyword now? Maybe it's in page 2, 3 or 4. Don't worry, because it doesn't matter anymore now. Just give a close attention to the first page of the search results and check the MOZ data. You will probably see all the sites in the 1st page have a domain authority between 80 and 100. Now check the page authority though it's not that important.
Have you found the key elements of this new update? If not, just open all the results of 1st page. Aren't that search results driving you to .gov, .edu, .org, and finally, .com?
Do you know how many Average Monthly Searches your keywords receive each month? If yes, just read on and if no, go to google Adwords to find out the Average Monthly Searches.
Is the Average Monthly Searches for a keyword greater than 1000? If yes, believe me or not, your keyword is now fighting with a keyword from high authority .gov, .edu, .org, or .com sites. So, there is a little chance that you will get your keyword in first page. No matter how many times you edited that post to get your keyword again in top position, you will never be able to get your position back again unless google goes back to its old algorithms.
However, if the Average Monthly Searches is lower than 500 and the keyword isn't fighting with a keyword from high authority .gov, .edu, or .org sites, then there is a chance that you will get back your position reediting your content.
Now let's get back to bing and yahoo again. Can you guess why they suddenly started sending more traffic after the Panda update? Interestingly, it's because people aren't finding what they used to find through google searches. Google is now just driving an ordinary web reader to a site that is full of academic contents. How an ordinary reader could understand what is written in an article that follows academic style?
As people always look for short and easy to read contents, many of the web searchers (according to my GA data, especially, from U.S. and U.K.) are now trying alternative search engines.
Believe me or not, it's already taking a big effect in search engine market. Now pay your close attention and see the screenshot below. For the keyword "how does the nervous system work", it had a steady growth from October 2012 to May 2013. It took the highest peak at May 2013 and just after the Panda update, from June 2013 to till now, the Average Monthly Searches significantly dropped.
Finally, I would like to say no matter how hard google team tries to manipulate things to get them in their way, the no. #1 search engine might never be successful. Because it's not the google
, it's the people who determines where to search or where not to search. 
My views just keep on dropping. Extremely discouraging.
See Greekgeek's reply above - she hasn't been affected and writes on a wide variety of topics. Furthermore, she says that she hasn't written much this year, which suggests it's not a freshness issue in her case either.
I've fallen foul of a Panda update before. Nothing about my writing, my pattern of publishing or my topics changed, yet one day I was in favour, the next not. Several weeks later, I was back in favour. My traffic steadily rose for months even when other hubbers were experiencing falls - rather like you've reported - then mine started to fall. And fall. All my hubs are featured, I have an average score in the 90s and I write long, informative hubs with few Amazon capsules. I am now outranked by four sentence long wikianswers in some cases - that famous Google quality drive in action
Is it worth my while shuffling hubs around on to different accounts? I should imagine I would never, ever see a payout again.
Here's a screencap of my Jan-Aug analytics data for my main account.
So, basically, typical fluctuations, one brief social media spike, and an overall 16% rise this month compared to last month. I usually get a slight traffic dip in the summer, so that may simply be the back-to-school rebound.
I gather that my numbers are not typical for most Hubbers, however.
FWIW, nearly all my hubs are informational or tutorials, with very few Amazon capsules and only one hub with an eBay capsule. (It does get rare sales.)I hit a lull for about two weeks (traffic dropped by around 50%). I've been active and writing for about 2 months, account is 2 years old. Well, I kind of quit writing to see what would happen, only added like 1 during the lull. I pulled out of the lull quite a few days ago, and my views have *almost* tripled. One of those hubs that's pulling the most was pulling hardly any views for the longest- then it seemed as if it went viral. All of my stats say it's google sending the traffic- and overall traffic increased to other hubs too. I guess I hit a sweet spot after the update (when they evaluated my sub) and they boosted me nicely. I rarely/never use amazon/product/affiliate links at all now as well, which they don't like. Amazon seems useless for me anyways. I'm not pulling a whole lot of traffic.... but my CPM is really, really high. I'm STILL trying to figure out exactly why it is... and my newest experiment will hopefully help me focus in on the reason that my cpm is sitting high. My traffic is still on an uphill climb. It's been going up & up since before the weekend and shows no signs of slowing yet. It'll make a gal smile quite a bit
I alsoooo started pinning my hubs quite a bit, since I became VERY active on pinterest. I LOVE that site! Anyways, i'm wondering if my pinning helped. I wouldn't think so though, because that's such a small, teeny tiny bit of juice. And it's not like everyone else here doesn't promote their material on social media. OR perhaps Pinterest really is that powerful even though spammers are aggressive on that site. And I'm trying to prepare for some Christmas hubs as well! I think it'll increase GREATLY because people will be researching more for new gadgets, good presents, decor ideas, how to's, etc. Exactly what we're good for! Learning Hi Cardisa!
It's great to hear that you weren't affected during the update, I'm sure with the top notch quality hubs that you have, Google should reward you. I wasn't very hard hit, I only had a drop for a week of about 100 views and now it is rising again back to where it was before Panda. I suppose I was lucky enough, some had major falls of up to 80%. Thanks for your kind wishes, Cardisa.
My views have suddenly risen and I'm feeling a little more encouraged.
- epsonok0posted 11 years ago
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That thing is a pain in the neck.
And HP told me my message was too short. WTH? I was answering a simple question. But that was not good enough. So, I recited the poor guy some song lyrics to get past the filter.
Traffic on HubPages was 905,955 unique visitors yesterday with 1,442,650 page views. That's more than twice the traffic of competitor squidoo.com. HP is now ranked the #100 website in the world for traffic. So, the opportunities do exist on this site.
There are still some problems, especially with the QAP ratings and new style tips. HP is doing a better job of eliminating the junk but still cannot identify a Hub with Google-quality potential.
Even so, many people are reporting increased traffic recently. Traffic to my Hubs increased by another 50% in just the past two weeks.
Thanks Alison. When I check out my anxiety related hubs on HP's topic pages, I found so many of mine sitting there in the top thirty or so. Is this what you mean? Is there anything I can do about it? Sorry if I have misunderstood and thanks again
The principles pf SEO are not that difficult, honestly!
Searchengineland is one of the most reputable SEO sites around and has good resources.
This is the start of their well known 'Periodic Table of SEO' series:
http://searchengineland.com/guide/seo
Of course, Google make the details hard to understand, deliberately, so that their search algos are hard to game. They also change the rules at regular intervals which leaves most people playing catch up most of the time.Hopeless, lol.
'The overall HubPages site received a 19.06% increase' after July 28th Panda run.
The graph below is for June, July and August. Where is this 19% increase? You couldn't possibly mean that little spike could you? Those spikes are a feature of Panda runs and mean nothing except there is a Panda run.
'Wilderness reports a 40% increase.'
Wilderness was talking about the impact of EC hubs after his Panda hit.
You cannot read a graph and you cannot listen to what other people say. You did not get a Panda hit so, somehow, nobody else did... lol.
And that is the most important point -- different people have different experiences on each Panda run because Panda impacts the domain, sub-domains and pages separately.
Until you can grasp the fact that site traffic fell sharply (study that graph) after the last Panda and that many individuals have suffered greater percentage falls than the site as a whole, no one should take anything that you say seriously.
Incidentally, your pages are so new, Panda would have passed them over. Your hit will be in a few months.As usual, you are mistaken Will. This is the correct traffic graph for HubPages since the last Panda update. Notice the 19% traffic gain since July 28th.
"Incidentally, your pages are so new, Panda would have passed them over. Your hit will be in a few months." – That's not how it works Will. Do some more research on how Google algorithms work.
Early days, but I'm also seeing a significant increase in both traffic and CPM today
Will, That was before I'd seen your counter-opinion to what Writer Fox advised.
- epsonok0posted 11 years ago0
My traffic is the lowest I have ever seen this Summer
, is this supposed to happen or am I the only one? How's your traffic?My traffic is up another 45% this week.
that's right...
the rise and fall are all part of the game.
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