I totally agree that the title is inappropriate for the quality that HP is trying to maintain -- however, the article is well written and contains some very sensible thoughts and suggestions. It is only the title that contains a derogatory term that everyone knows the meaning of -- there are not other such terms within the hub. I strongly believe that whoever chose that hub as HOTD, should have requested that the title be changed to drop the immature, inappropriate term -- the rest of the title is fine.
My point exactly. As you may have noticed, I never mentioned the hub itself because I scanned through it and didn't find anything inappropriate there. Just the title which should have been changed. To me it gives the wrong impression about the articles that are on HP.
Titles get attention and it matches the issue he brings to the hub. I don't see an issue with this hub title. Sometimes it's simply an appropriate response. Everyone has used it or at least thought it! It's in the Oxford dictionary.
Agreed. I'm not a fan. I see what the author may have been going for with the title, using "text speak" and all that, but I'm not sure it's entirely appropriate or representative of a respectable, authoritative image.
I don't mean anything against the writer. None of us are perfect, and sometimes we don't even set out to write a Hub that meets high standards, but HOD should represent everything this site says it's looking for in a Hub. Is this it? I don't get it.
Cursing aside, it makes sense to use a modern term (what do you call phrases like this? Do we all sound 100 years old yet?) when dealing with this subject. It's catchy and smart to use it in the title.
For example: if a someone wanted to promote a prayer, texting site, they could call it OMG. Tacky in every way, but you get the comparison.
This used to be one of my favorite games... going back and editing what you wrote to make the other person look crazy. (Look back, Ill show you.)
You can't derail a thread... every post is like a rail in a rail road track... if you lay them all down, the train will make it's way to the end... each and every one an equally important part of the track. *Deep thoughts.*
SHM, too. Don't get it. I don't like to participate in negative comments about a HOTD day either. But you're right for raising this question about the title, Cardisa. I hope HP staff will chime in. You, JG11Bravo, and EricDockett all raise valid concerns. I felt the same when I saw it this morning. I dunno.
I have to agree with all the negative comments on the HOTD, but now that it is done, what would you all like HubPages to do about it??? I do think in the future, the staff would pay more attention to the Hubs they chose so this does not happen again.
I agree, I once had a hub that I was asked to adjust, although I felt as if they were wrong in their opinion I had to follow suit. I personally have not seen the hub in question but i will be looking for it to see if I agree with everyone's opinion.
I've been under the impression that HP wants magazine quality/style articles. Not text speech from a phone screen. As such the abbreviations are not appropriate for the body of text, let alone the title, unless the topic itself is the use of such language.
About the use of phones in schools, and the schools reaction to students carrying them. Well written overall and with some good thoughts, it fit well into the HP scheme as I understand it. Except for that title - that puts it square back into a teeny bopper playing with her phone rather than a serious dialog.
Well, again, other than the fact that it represents a curse word... it is a clever title. There isn't an English speaking student alive who doesn't know what that means and most of them use it quite commonly. Most don't even think of it as a curse word... it's almost like the letters themselves have come to stand more for an expression of shock or anger than for the actual F word they represent. Not defending its usage at all, but as a title, I think it's clever, it makes sense.
I don't mind the text jargon or whatever they are called being used in a title. And yes I understand your POV since the hub is about smartphones in schools, but the use of that particular acronym is inappropriate for what HP says it's aiming for. Why not OMG, or WTH? Or some other exclamatory expression?
Yeah, I don't know... of course they didn't entitle the hub, but maybe they see it as quite common too? Maybe they are all in their early 20's? lol... I don't know. Again, I'm not at all supporting it, but I find it odd that I'm by far less offended by it than most. lol
I agree with you Cardisa. It is not appropriate title for a hub especially then to be picked for Hub of the Day. I think if reflects poorly on Hub Pages and on all of us if this is what HP is telling the world is great writing. I find it terribly offensive. I am shocked and surprised this would be chosen a Hub of the Day. I think it is a slap in the face to previous winners and winners in the future. Who wants to be associated with this hub? Not me.
I hate hearing the word implied in the title.I have never involved myself in Hub Bashing but this title really does deserve a quick edit to make it more appropriate for readers. I know that it offends all of my senses.
I used to be a merino sheep and cattle farmer Down Under. So... a dag is just a bit of what you don't want collecting at the rear end of a sheep..... typical self-depreciating Aussie humour I guess. Oh and btw (trust that is ok) I used to be a Drover as well.
very good Will... Just to get back on track, I find the F word offensive in any context and just because some Gen X / Y folk may use it in it's abreviated txt form on a smartphone, does not in my opinion edify any one. And as all you folk will have worked out , I haven't been around Hubpages for a loooong time either but this one has got me going!.
This is an interesting juxtaposition between generations. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE in my circle of friends uses the 'f' word. But I am old. *sigh* However, when I worked (in a very white collar, educated, high end world-) I found that some very clean cut main stream younger people used the WTF phrase fairly often! I accept it and 'get it' being used on shows like the Daily Show. Movies, too. But still refrain personally from using it. Still, I would rather not be associated with the term. In 1939 Gone with the Wind was censored for the use of "Frankly, my dear I don't give a damn." Language changes.
I'm just adding to what everyone else has said. HP should never have a HOD that is any way out of line...WTF is out of line as far as I can see. Not good publicity for a site like HP! And I too mean no offense to the writer, not even knowing who it is. I haven't been on HP a lot lately due to family illnesses so I probably missed it.
I don't know... I find the "WTF" thing kind of funny. Those initials are "out there" everywhere anyway. The meaning or root of them is kind of watered down at this point. A little bit of sense of humor about some things presented in small doses is a good thing, I think. Besides, it shows that the author has a genuine feel for the "mood"/flavor of the particular topic.
The sad thing is that thousands of potential readers who see that blazoned on the front page of HP will be lost forever, and will never come back, never click on a HP listing in the SERPs again. Why trash the brand? HP pushes Quality as its agenda and motto ( latest email) yet it slips up regularly with HOTD. I simply don't understand! It affects everyone who writes here.
I doubt thousands of people will leave and never return because of it. If you're so worried about "trashing the brand," why do you misuse/mis-attribute photos in your recipe Hubs as belonging to you when they clearly belong to many other professional photographers and food blogs all over the web? That's "trashing the brand."
Does anyone else pic the HP's staff gathered in a tiny office, drinking coffee and eating bagels. Paul leads the meeting off with, "Ok, "catastrophes of the day"?"
Matt brings a few technical glitches to the table, Paul asks him how soon till they can be worked out, then brings up a current sporting event... they talk about the highlights, then they all look to whatever poor soul is stuck with monitoring the forums and wait for the newest drama to unfold.
"Well, apparently the HOTD has got quite a few ppl up in arms." Poor Soul says.
"The Christians?" Paul asks already sure of the answer.
"No," says Poor Soul, "the over 30 crowd."
"Huh!" Paul replies, eyebrow arched, and then his mind drifts off to a Tim Tebow interview he'd seen earlier in the week as they all sit shaking their heads.
Apparently it is. HP turned off my ads for my "Yeast Infection" and "Spousal Sexual Abuse" hubs. I had to eventually remove them. The titles were appropriate but one hub triggered the filters and the other did not comply with Adsense publishing policies.
I must confess, this one kind of caught me off guard as well. I read the title, was moving on to something else when I went "wait a second, what the.." It did accomplish it's purpose. It generated traffic, whether it was the best way to go about it or not..
Looks like someone has discovered a way to say unmentionable things in such a way that they can be ... well... mentioned. Or pointed to. Or signaled to in some way. Or referred to. Why didn't someone else think of this before now.
Wait for a massive move over to LMAO titles with WTF and more inane words ... all of which will probably either drag down Hub Pages or else bring in new fresh eyes that love that kind of thing.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I think the way "WTF" is perceived now is more an expression of shock or anger. We all know what it means, but ppl seem to be comfortable with it. It's the way society goes. Mary Tyler Moore and Dick Van Dyke couldn't sleep in the same bed on tv 60 years ago, but we have straight up sex scenes now...
SIM here so I just want to say 4COL, WTF; BTSOOM why so many People are FO about the use of TLAs in HP titles 4 the HOTD, but then that's SNAFU for the forums here! Too many people with a SOHF! TIIC don't care so why should we?
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