From your experience which platform is better of the two, as far as promotion of your work is concerned? Some of my friends tell me that google+ is likely to do better due to its G connection. What do you say?
Traditionally FB has been better (hark at me saying traditionally for something that has been true for about three/four years) but Google+ will be better in the future. I would start using G+ now to get yourself in a good position when it takes off.
I agree with Mark Rees. Google+ is the future, unless FB does something drastically well in 2014. Most people on my FB have lowered their contribution to the forum there. Google+ is more liberating.
As things stand right now, based on how to content is currently shared, FB is winning the race. But moving forward, it will be G+
So get your presence on G+ at the earliest, and claim your custom URL before someone else takes it.
PS: Don't ignore Twitter. And LinkedIn.
What drastic thing you think FB should do in 2014 to stay ahead of g+?
I recently held my nose and set up Google plus for work stuff. I wouldn't use it for my personal life. Why let any of the big corporations anywhere near personal info?
How do you propose to use G+ for that? Certainly, people's personal stuff is meant to serve the bottom lines of pure money makers.
One of the crowd sourcing sites where I do copywriting requires you to have a Google+ account, if you want to contribute blogs there. A couple of the site's clients are requiring not only that you have it, but also that you belong to a minimum of 7 circles, whatever that means.
With all due respect, Will, how is FB having your personal information any better than G+ having it? Both are megalithic corporations who will use your data to target you with advertisements. While neither seems to be particularly protective of your data (both are alleged to be in cooperation with the NSA for example), I trust the security of Google more than I do FB against hacker intrusion.
So far Facebook but G+ is catching up fast. More so because your G+ activity also influences your SERPs which has not yet been admitted by Google but yes it does.
Is there something you can't do on FB but google+ has it? So there is inherent bias in favor of those using G+?
None seems to work for me, though hard i try on both of these
Facebook is a place where I talk with friends I've made in real life and online and keep up to date with their lives. I also belong to a few closed FB groups, which give me much entertainment and sometimes very valuable information as well.
On Google+ I am spammed with everyone's articles, so I spam them back with my articles. Even people who are friends of mine on FB post nothing of interest on G+
If you're going to post on Facebook then you'd better have a fan page to promote your writing. If you're going to have a fan page, then you need to put work into it, posting material every day (and not just links to your Hubs). Just sharing with your friends on your personal profile isn't going to give much benefit (and will probably annoy some friends to the point where they hide your updates, so no one benefits).
Some writers set up groups to share each other's work on Facebook. That's against Adsense and HubPages TOS - I guess it's unlikely you'll be caught, though, so it's really up to your conscience.
Google is trying very hard to turn Google+ into an alternative to Facebook. I don't know anyone who genuinely uses it to catch up with friends - it seems to be full of people who want to self-promote. So as a means of getting real readers it seems a waste of time. However it does seem as though Google is giving preference to authors who have a Google+ profile
You seem to have real insight about how these social media sites operate. So what is the best you can get in terms of promoting your articles from these sites?
When I hear people say that google gives preference to people using its google+ cousin, I am no sure whether it has to be true although it makes sense.
Google has made it clear it favours authors who have a Google+ profile. That doesn't mean you have to use the profile, or that it necessarily favours backlinks on that service. You just need one. Apart from that, Google+ (as far as I can see) is a wasteland populated by writers and business people promoting their stuff at each other.
If you're trying to attract real people, then there's no question Facebook wins over Google+, because it's used far more widely by potential readers.
Wrylilt is the expert on Facebook. My own view is that there's no point in using it to promote your Hubs, because it's hard to build a following unless you're specialising in a particular subject. Then you can build a fan page for yourself around that particular subject, post interesting facts, photos etc about it and attract like-minded people.
Marisa: I post new articles from my blog on Google+ and links to most of them show up almost immediately on page 1!
First is google to get pay. Then facebook to let other people know about your work.
I will set up my G+ account again for business. My facebook personal page continues to get my business posts and I cannot seem to sop it.
I used Google but they place ads over your work, on the side, across it , on the top and bottom. It is distracting and annoying. I dropped out. I did have over 5000 readers in weeks. Yet never saw a dime of what I earned.
Both FB and G+ have their ardent followers. In my book (and this is just my opinion, no more valuable than anyone else's) G+ is far better.
Those of you who are reporting that all you see on G+ are people spamming their own work, then neither you nor your G+ contacts are using it correctly. Them, because they shouldn't be using a social network just for self-promotion. You, because you're not slotting people in the right circles and throttling their input into your stream (yes, you can control how much content each circle can add to your stream). You can even put them into circles that have *no* input to your stream. That doesn't mean you can't see their posts, it just means you have to click on that circle specifically to see them.
Personally, I've created circles for various topics that interest me (classic cars, writing, etc.) Contacts that do nothing but self-promote either get slotted into a muted circle or, if it's bad enough, dropped altogether. I do _occasionally_ post something I've written, but I either send it to the circles of people with a common interest, or I send it to 'public' only if I really think it has broad appeal. I'm just as likely to share something written by someone else if it's useful or interesting.
I think that people who use either FB or G+ strictly for promotion, and don't enjoy the social / business / family networking options available will ultimately be disappointed in the return on their investment.
Thanks for explaining more about the circles and level of control over your stream, I didn't know much about those!
I hadn't thought of using the circles that way. I think I'll start doing that.
Thanks jponiato, for explaining the details of G+. I gather from your description that people generally don't know the right way to use a platform and then complain! I am certainly in this category (minus the complain!) but try to follow what you said.
A question to jponiato:
Given the choice what will be your ideal platform in terms of features, assuming that you can grind facebook and G+ in a grinder and create a new species!
That's a difficult question for me, because I like G+ so much! Giving it a shot, though, I'd say the learning curve for FB is a lot easier for newbies than G+. All that granular control over what you see and with whom you share adds complexity, which is off-putting to non-technical users. This is probably why G+ is sometimes perceived to be more for techie / geeky types while FB is seen to be more for everyone else. If there was a way to meld the two, taking the more stream-lined approach of FB but adding the level of control from G+, I guess that would be ideal. What would really be cool but seems highly unlikely because FB and G+ are direct competitors is some sort of built-in integration, allowing people to 'follow' each other across the platforms. I know there are 3rd party social add-ons that are designed to facilitate this, but I've never tried them.
I think yes I will agree with your friend. G+ is a better choice now a days.
It depends on your goals and what you are trying to do. If your goals have anything to do with traffic...then google plus is probably not where you want to be
I agree with those people who said that as per now days facebook is better than G+. May be in future Google+ will be better than facebook and also I hope so. But in both cases you should to increase your followers by following thematic and related person to your site or product. You have increase your social network on both sites otherwise both are useless.
Well Google have been integrating their products more closely together over the last year, so I would say Google+, but I wouldn't rule out Facebook either with the Pages you can create, if you can create enough social engagement through your online content, then your traffic could increase.
Never rely on one more than the other....
I've worked with Social Media and I always posted on Facebook and Google +. Facebook is good because there are so many people to connect with and that can see your stuff. There are more personal profiles. However, I used Google + a lot as well because there are a lot of businesses that have pages that you can reach out to and interact with. They are both good, and I'd say use both because they both have their pros.
On a side note, one good platform to use is http://www.scoop.it/
They post to Tweeter, Tumblr,Facebook, LinkIn etc at the same time.
In my opinion, if you want things to be really genuinely shared then Facebook is better, but if you want to be more recognised in the Google search than G+ is the way to go. Obviously both are a must, and I would also include Twitter, I believe that is a better platform than either of the other two.
Much easier to gain a large audience in G+. I had 7 at the beginning of the week and now have over 1200. Having numbers is always better.
It doesn't matter at all. It is up to you to provide great content. It is up to your readers to decide which platform to share it on if they deem it worthy. Your facebook and google plus are part of your social network. Create interesting and useful hubs, and aim towards them being shared on everyone's network.
They both are equal if you are using if you want to be recognize by google which one of the largest search engine site then you should use google+ and If you want to gain audience on your site you can also use Facebook as a source of traffic.
Both Platforms have their own reputations and audiences level. However, both are used for social sharing s and engaging with friends & connecting others worldwide. Google+ has grow very superbly. I would be suggest you to work on both social networks to gain reputations, visibility and fans followers :-P
I think someone else said it, but G+ is not very targeted when using it for promotion of Hubs. If someone sees your link an is interested in the subject, they will click it. FB is more reliable because most of your following knows you. They might look just to see what you're up to. Twitter and G+ are similar in the fact that the more respect you have for a given subject, the better they are for marketing.
I would say to have a presence on Google+ as it may grow in the future, occasionally post there. Most people are on Facebook at the moment, so this would be my primary choice. If you create a Hootsuite account you can publish to multiple platforms simultaneously.
I agree with your points. Google+ may be more grow in future as compare with facebook but now a days Facebook has more traffic or visitor. I'm using both account for promotion of newly launched search engine http://www.checktick.com but I'm getting good traffic from facebook in compare with G+
I think this is unfortunately an apples to oranges comparison. While G+ started off as a social platform it also quickly failed as one. Facebook is more a social platform today while G+ is becoming an extension of Google's information collection service.
The G+ social platform, to me, is a complete mess. I can't track anything that is going on. However, the profile pages for individuals and businesses are quite nice and much better than Facebook.
I'm pretty sure G+ is going to be used as a search engine directory service and personal knowledge-base while Facebook will remain the primary social media platform.
For publishing purposes, it makes the most sense to use a dashboard system and post simultaneously on all of your accounts. For those that can't do this or have limited time, I think it's ideal to post articles on Facebook but maintain a G+ presence that is connected to "authorship" so that Google "sees" you on search engine rankings.
G+ is simply the best but it's not so popular here, in Bosnia. FB is number one but I don't like to use it, to much spam even if you adjust it maximally.
For me Twitter is good sollution.
In all honesty I can't see what the fuss is with Google+ Not only is it a really ugly interface, but it's also unnecessarily complicated to navigate, something which is quite typical of Google products. But Google being the giant they are, I guess people will have to start using G+ if they are to eventually dominate the social networks as they have done with internet search.
I can't see FB users moving over to G+ any time soon, but some may use it in addition to their FB pages as a way of promoting their products/services/content. FB is also getting far too big for its boots IMHO, simply because they keep changing stuff around and updating policies, all this of course, is meant to confuse users so that they can grab more of your data while covering their own backs from a legal standpoint.
Thanks for all opinions. I think now a days both are useful. But its depend on the user and his process to gain benefit from both sites in the sense of site promotion. If we use both sites for promotion point of view then we should to increase our circle and should to follow genuine user only.
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I like FB myself. I don't like Google plus at all. I do link my articles there but I just don't like the way G is set up. FB is much more personal and you can make a page just for promoting your writing if you want. I have not done that but do a have page just for my designs and have had some success with that.
It doesn't matter if you use either or any other social media platform, unless you are using them to put your information towards a large number of people.
So, unless you have an extremely large audience, in the realm of 10,000 plus people, you really are wasting time promoting your work on social media.
Where is facebook going in 2014? Here's an article that may affect our decisions on where to invest our social networking efforts:
http://socialmediatoday.com/adhutchinso … ook-2014#!
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