I only write for HubPages. It's easier to navigate, create, and I think there is more freedom to expand our horizons on HP than on other sites.
I like HubPages too. Much better than a lot of other sites.
What other sites do you write for janesix?
Bubblews, Yahoo Voices, InfoBarell. A couple of new ones that don't seem worthwhile yet.
I tried Squidoo, after two years I've made abut $35 there.
I write at Bubblews, I'm not pushing it real hard there like some do, it takes me about three weeks to hit the $50 payout.
I make payout most months on HP lately.
I just do Hubs for fun. I tend to avoid rev share because I'm not big on marketing.
I don't like to work for royalties, I like to get paid up front; I determine the price by the length of the piece and the amount of research it takes. I have an hourly average I shoot for.
Mostly I have private clients I ghost write for, many of whom I got through Elance, Odesk, various job search ads (everything from Monster.com to Craigslist) and word of mouth. I've managed to get enough regulars with weekly/monthly needs to have a steady income for that and then I take some 1-shot projects occasionally.
I've also sold some stuff on Constant Content, though I really don't seem to have a niche in the more popular topics there so I haven't really kept up with it.
I've been approved to for Demand Media Studios since before they were Demand Studios. Back when they were "Write 4 Cash." They pay a flat rate for articles, currently about $35 on average for a 400-500 word article. if you're good with rev. share & marketing you can make more in the long run with Google Adsense on your own website; but they're good to write for when you have a sudden need for cash, or go through a 'dry spell' with other clients (like around the holidays when a lot of my clients get behind and wind down a little, it's nice to know I can spend a weekend on DMS and make up for it).
Wow! It's great to have $35 for 500 words. Most of us writers get only 3, 4 dollars for it on Instamedia and other sites.
The explosion of content mills really brought about a crash in writer rates. With content mills, a lot of people who would never otherwise have bothered to be writers began offering work for a couple of bucks. Some of them are desperate for quick cash, others just want to see their name in print. A lot of clients just looking for cheap content to fill pages decided they don't want to pay more than that. A lot of ads are full of "I need 20 articles, I won't pay more than $5." kind of jobs. It's sad that people have started undervaluing the skills of a qualified writer, but there it is.
Mind you, I'm not talking about revenue share like HP, which is a long-term investment and you keep copyrights; I'm talking about working for a flat fee here, selling rights.
There are still clients out there who want to deal with professionals. They realize you get what you pay for, and frankly if you're going to sell for work it's better to just hone your skills and hold out for real, professional jobs. DMS pay is decent (they pay more for people who write in specialized fields, but you have to have some serious credentials like advanced degrees or 10 years of experience in an industry). They have stringent requirements and demanding standards for what they want, though, and they are very critical and let writers go who can't produce work that lives up to their formula, so they get a lot of hate. There are a lot of disgruntled writers who have dedicated entire websites to hating DMS because they got rejections or were let go, lol.
Thanks for your concern. But I am not at all worried as I do not look for income. I hope many other writers like me are there, who like and love writing something only as a hobby and for spreading their views among readers.
No concern; there's definitely plenty of places on the internet for people who love writing as a hobby, and I think that's great. I enjoy reading a lot of people's creative writing and blogs who do so for a hobby.
I myself always dreamed of making Writing a profession; I started subscribing to Writer's Digest and Publisher's Weekly at age 16. I wanted to do my greatest passion for a living, and I spent a number of years getting an education and working hard to build a writing career.
This information was not so much for hobbyists, but others looking to earn a living doing what they love full time, since people here were looking for places to make money writing. A lot of people will look at those $2 and $3 jobs and ad rev income and get discouraged, I just want people to know there are real writing jobs out there for those wanting to write as a career, or part-time job, and not a hobby.
Sounds like you and I have a very similar writing career. I also mostly write for other clients. Word of mouth advertising once you're established is pretty sweet too. I may check out Demand Studios. I have an account on Constant-Content also, but I've been kept busy enough with clients this year so far that I haven't published anything there in ages. I'm currently working a huge product description gig which I hope I never have to do again, it's very tedious. After this ends, I'm going to be looking to expand my horizons some more again - or maybe I'll take some time to update my own websites that have been sorely neglected the past couple of years. sigh.
I write as a hobby and for my own satisfaction on my blog vnktchari.blogspot.in and my hub page and on wordpress.com with no income at all. I comment at many sites on news and articles which can be visite at mvchari.in and disqus.com I also write for remuneration to some clients which amounts to only $10 per month at present. I love writing with no time bars and at my own mood.
Wizzley, Infobarrel and Writedge at the moment. I'm cautiously testing the waters of Squidoo again. I"m also trying to devote time to my own blogs.
I write at Wizzley, Writedge, Daily Two Cents and Bubblews. I'm not sure how long Bubblews will last though, and I'm only staying as long as they pay me. I've not had a problem yet, but I don't trust them all that well.
Writedge and DTC are still new and I've not reached the payout levels yet. But I'm a believer in giving things time and don't mind writing for residual income.
Wizzley and HubPages are about on par for income for me, so I split my time evenly between them.
I write for Bubblews too but I don´t push myself into writing there and here. Writing is still my hobby at Hubpages and at Bubblews.
Squidoo's my main earner besides Hubpages, particularly as Squidoo seems to drive sales well, and my Amazon Associates links do well there.
Without Amazon Associates factored in, my average Squidoo earns about two-thirds per page of my average hub. (Until 2013, my Squidoo earnings used to be up to ten times higher). With Amazon sales factored in, the average-earnings-per-lens is almost as much as average-earnings-per-hub. Next month, thanks to a niche picking up, my Squidoo lenses should again be on top.
I've also got Zujava and Wizzley pages which earn negligible (Zujava) or no (Wizzley) income, and Google Adsense pays me 2-3 times a year for my blogs and YouTube videos.
In 2011-2012, I worked very hard to get my monthly online income up to $1200/month, which would pay for all my ordinary expenses. In 2013, Squidoo went splat and dropped my earnings to 25% of what they had been. I struggled with that for a long time, then realized: why am I driving myself to distraction, when I was only doing this as a point of pride (I like the idea of supporting myself with my online writing) as opposed to necessity?
Since then, I've been devoting myself to hobby blogs and my own websites which earn little or nothing, and I've retired somewhat from the online rat race. I still keep my hand in, and I'm still mindful about what types of content are successful on what sites, so (for example) if I get the yen to publish something informational or writing-heavy, it'll go on Hubpages, whereas if I get the yen to write about something with lots of reader interaction and/or potential for Amazon sales, it goes on Squidoo.
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