I have had a real drop in views over the past few weeks, and as others have too, I just presumed it was Google panda or the usual drop we often get. But I decided to check in google search, and something strange has happened. I can't find many of my hubs. I have only checked a few so far but they are not showing at all.
The strange thing is that when I put in the title or even copy and pasted a paragraph from each hub, they only show up if someone has copied my hubs!
Any ideas? or should I say, Help! thanks
Oh, this isn't good. I'd better check on my hubs too as I have several listed on the first page.
While this is hopefully a temporary hiccup, the latest Google search algorithm changes have been widely reported as involving extensive de-indexing of sites such as blog networks. Google never confirms things like this until much later, so informed speculation is our only recourse for now. Over a year ago, Google published a lengthy list of sites that appeared to be a preliminary group for possible de-indexing — HubPages (and Squidoo) were among several dozen prominent sites included. I have always felt that was Google's way of providing a warning of what was to come. Then again, with algorithm adjustments, there are periodic disappearances that manage to reappear within a few days.
I must have missed that post by Google - do you have a link? It would be interesting to see.
I do not have the link at my fingertips or I would have included it or at least mentioned some additional sites on the preliminary hit list. I am going from memory. I recall reviewing the list several times in disbelief when I saw Squidoo and HubPages. That is old news at this point, however — it would only be fitting if Google has also de-indexed that page, too!
My stats have been way, way down this last week as well, but I just googled my top two hubs and they showed up. It's hard to tell if it was just a few days glitch because hubpages hasn't updated my stats in almost 3 days
I hope it isn't as bushaex said and I hope google hasn't possibly shut hubpages out, because almost all of my views come from google.
I did a search on my Hp name. The first few google pages were all Pinterest links to my articles. A couple pages further the HP articles started showing up.
I guess this means Pinterest is outranking HP.
I am reviewing my hubs and updating them. I noticed that they are still indexed highly by Google, occupying the first two slots in the Google ladder, but the traffic is down by 75 percent. I did not think that I will be affected by the migration since all my hubs are about the local (Philippines) scene. However, I am still getting a beating, and I am now hesitant to do another submission.
Nell, sorry to hear about your hub issues. I just entered 'site:yourprofileURL', and it shows 307 results, which are your hubs. Maybe the 404's appeared when the servers were moved/down and they weren't able to retrieve the hubs? But Glenn answered that one. G wouldn't report those.
I also just entered in quotes two of your hub titles and found them at the top of the search.
I just checked one of your Hubs and it is indexed by Google.
https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A … channel=sb
If you do a search of the full url following "site:" you can get the same result for any URL.
This lets you know that the Hub is indexed in Google and that they, perhaps, are choosing to rank other content higher than in the past.
My top ranking hub has disappeared as well. However, the three below it in rank are showing in Google. The ranking I am speaking of is the rank on "my account" page here on HP.
I checked a few of mine that had good position on G,and can't find them at all. Same as you.
as more and more information becomes available on the internet, google will continue to sift through it all to find the information they find most valuable. it is the nature of the beast. online writing isn't easy, especially when they are constantly changing the algorithms on us.
One of my hubs iS at the top of its search term and is still there, another dropped two slots, but I changed its name at the height of panic.
I just checked a couple of my hubs that had reduced traffic in the last 24 hours and they are still indexed. But I only checked a couple. I'm suspecting that Google may be de-indexing hubs when it fails to find them due to the delays with loading webpages from HP, which has been happening ever since they started migrating to the new data location. Sometimes these load problems only affect loading images, but I also ran into problems loading entire pages. This is not good when a Google bot runs into the same problem.
Here's the post about the migration...
I am running into "this web site is not available" for hours at a time. Not good if Google stores that as a "no." An uncomfortable reminder of Bubblews...
@ Glenn I have several that cannot be found that have a 404 in Google Webmaster Tools. Isn't Webmaster Tools supposed to notify individuals if a penalty exists from an algorithm update? I remember Paul told us at one time to check on this factor at WT.
Google reporting a 404 error on your hubs is a more serious problem. Did you try accessing the hubs yourself by placing the URL into your browser? If you get a 404 that way, then this indicates it was deleted. I would report this to HP in the Technical Problems forum.
I just checked my Google Webmaster Tools and I have a lot of hubs with 404 and 410 errors. But they are all hubs that I had deleted in the past. So it is correct to have a 404 or 410 status code. So with that said, did you notice if those hubs of yours were hubs you deleted? If so, then nothing to worry about.
Here's an article explaining how Google treats 404 and 410 status code errors…
http://searchenginewatch.com/article/23 … atus-Codes
I haven't deleted any hubs glenn, thats the scary part!
404 errors mean the page was unavailable, not necessarily deleted.
Hubpages has had problems with site accessibility this last week or so, so that would account for the 404's.
Susana, please correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Matt Cuts at Google, 404 means the page was "not found" - this is different from "unavailable."
The server issues the 404 status. That can only be done when the server is responding. The problem we've had in the past few days is that the server has accessibility problems and becomes unresponsive at times. Google would not get a 404 status under those conditions. The bots would check again several times before de-indexing.
Well, it was brakel2 who said she had 404 status errors. But it was not clear on what. Are you saying you have them too? And since you had never deleted any hubs, are you saying the 404 errors are on existing hubs?
Yep Glenn that thought did cross my mind too, thanks
Glen, the slow load time is mostly impacting signed in users. Please see my post in this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/post/2647409
Marina, Thank you for that info. I just read your other post -- that gives the detail everyone in this thread needs to know.
I never doubted that staff is working on it, and I appreciate all the hard work. As you can see above, the discussion here has turned mostly towards a report from two others that they are getting 404 status errors on hubs. And I'm trying to help clarify if they were looking at old hubs that they might have deleted. Google reports those in Webmaster Tools and I'm trying to explain (above) that it is not meant to indicate a problem.
All my articles are still there on google but my traffic has still gone down by more than 50%.
I run some niche sites as well as my hubs, and I noticed that these niche sites pages have risen above many of the big players. I have not noticed any change in hub traffic yet.
Thanks everybody for answering my question, it would be nice if hub staff could give us an answer so we stop panicking? thanks
I'm still thinking that all these problems are related to the migration of HubPages to the new data center, as Marina Lazarevic reported.
In addition, my Google Webmaster Tools shows that the response time to download hubs increased from an average of 243 milliseconds throughout August, to a high of 685 ms on 9/27/2014. I consider that slow and it may affect ranking.
Thanks again Glenn, I did find most of my hubs, but there were quite a few missing, but now I know whats going on it does make sense. I am sure hubstaff are working their butts of to solve it all for us, so I am just going to sit back and wait, I am sure it will be sorted soon.
Glenn, you seem to have an understanding of google webmaster tool so maybe you can answer this question or someone else can. When I check index status, it says there is nothing indexed. I have 41 hubs.
It does show me keywords and all sorts of other information about my hubs, but none are indexed. Is there something I'm supposed to do?
It also talks about a sitemap. Do we have a sitemap through HP?
It also says to verify my HP site with www in front of it, but it says there is no such thing. Should I just ignore that recommendation?
Sorry for so many questions. I'm hope someone can help clarify this for me.
Judy, First of all, make sure you linked your GWT to your Analytics? Assuming you did, click on "Google Index > Index Status on the left. You should see a graph showing how your indexing has changed over time. If you want to see the individual hubs, look in your Google Analytics.
We had a lengthy discussion about the sitemaps in another forum. When HP moved to a new server recently, they moved all the sitemaps into a separate domain. They are no longer in our own subdomain. So you can't specify your sitemap anymore in your GWT.
HubPages does not use www in front of their URL. If you use it on the top domain, you will see that your browser changes it to just "hubpages.com" without the www. If you use it on your subdomain, you will get a 404 not found error. So don't use www in any case with HP.
Let me know if you have any other questions. Always glad to help when I can.
IMO, the best way to check on Index status for a sub is to do a search for "site:" followed by the subdomain url. The webmasters listing is very unreliable and can be out of date, in my experience. Adding part of a title such as 'Simplifying Mixing Colors" can be used to check whether an individual hub has been indexed.
That's a good method, and no need to log into GWT. There's another benefit in doing it as janderson99 says - you get to see how well your summary is used. If you see "…" at the end then that means it was too long. Both Bing and Google cut off at 160 characters even though HP allows up to 200 characters in your summary.
Thanks for all the answers to my so many questions. I'll have to check to see if I have it link to analytics. I know I have it in both analytics and webmaster, but I'm sure if that links them or not. When I click on index status it just shows a flat line and 0 indexes. I'll also take a look at the link to the other forum discussion you mentioned. I really appreciate your time.
do a search with this after replacing (dot)s with.
(store it as a bookmark)
simply add a title, or part of it, to see if it is indexed
site:judyfilarecki(dot)hubpages(dot)com Simplifying Mixing Color
Good News. Last night I went into the google fetch tool that someone had mentioned and added my HP address and low and behold. I just checked the index status in Webmaster, and I am now indexed there so I can see the graft. I know I was indexed prior because I could call it up on search, but it just wasn't recording in webmaster. Thank you both for you help and suggestion.
Thanks Glenn for info. I found one hub so far of the missing ones. I hope things get better., as so many hubbers squids have problems.
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