Thank you all for your answers. I think I will no longer spend my time there.
i haven't been there for a week, I focus on HP right now. I am fed up that Arvind is ignoring our pleas and am trying to delete my posts there, bring them over to persona paper.
With what in mind? Anyone who sticks with Bubblews to earn money is wasting their time. As we all know, sites need Google traffic to make money. Bubblews was a rare exception for a while, but only because it was paying out far more than it was earning.
Now that it has a fraction of its membership, internal traffic won't be enough to pay well, and the whole setup of the site isn't Google-friendly - so it can't possibly "recover".
Where it might find a niche is as a social networking site for writers, where people share snippets of writing for fun not money - but whether the owners will be satisfied with that is another question.
I decided that I was too hasty with my reply yesterday so I slept on it and now, I've re-considered my answer:
Yeah, that's much better.
Never used it, and after reading all the negative PR, don't think I'll bother. :-)
I've never used it, but from what I hear, I'd be better off staying far far away.
The openly admit to being delinquent on payments, so of course not.
They let in too many scammers, spammers and creeps when they were first building the site. They paid these people a lot of money. Over a million dollars according to Arvind. They took way too long to figure out that the scammers were destroying the site. So, how can you trust them to make it right now, when they are totally out of money?
Austinstar you are listening too much to what Arvind is saying and not using your own eyes and brain.
As Arvind himself said in his last post; the site and all of the users benefited from the manipulators and spammers. It did not matter that people were posting plagarized material or joining little groups to like each other and other issues; they all still generated views for the advertisers and the site was paid.
Him keep mentioning the spammers etc was a smokescreen to hide the fact that they just could not / would not pay.
From the very start they knew what they were earning. They knew that they earned less than they gave away to the users. This is why from the very start they had problems paying many people and people were told that they were not paid multiple redemptions due to rule infringements that they could not identify.
At the start this was easy; there were many people that would give up before they reached the payout and others that would break the rules that they would not pay. So they were able to pay the majority of the users.
But the promise of 1c a view did what it was intended; they hyped up the site, showed how easy it was to earn, even Arvind went onto Youtube and boasted of users that can earn up to $1000. So the site grew and grew until it was exceeding a million views a day. There were media interviews with Arvind where he is boasting about the traffic, plus you can estimate it just from the number of posts they were making a day (more than 2000 an hour at the peak!) - they grew and grew that site massively.
By this time they had many regular users that were posting their 10 a day and heavily socializing on the site to maximize their earnings. These vastly outstripped the new starters that abandoned the accounts and the spammers that they would not pay, so how could they pay?
So they stopped paying! Simple as that they just stopped paying all but a handful of people to keep the illusion that the site was still paying (and to avoid lawsuits in the US..)
They started in June/July and said that their servers had lost all of the redemption information. Then they paid for a few weeks then they stopped again - especially for anyone not in the US. They promised that they would process the redemptions and pay them; after 30, then 60 and then finally 90 days. Of course at the end they just said that they would not pay!
All of this non-payment happened at the height of the site when they were getting over a million views a day. So if you assume that they were getting $3 per 1000 views you can see that they were raking in around $100,000 a month. So if they did not pay anyone for just 3 months of that 5/6 month period that is a very healthy amount in their pocket.
Now finally they are adjusting the payments to what they are actually being paid - which means that they are paying 1c for around 5-10 views.
Meanwhile all you can say is that either it was a scam right from the start to make them big money or they are completely inept and incompetent at their jobs in a MAJOR way.
In my mind they had the following aims;
Build the site big and sell for a massive profit like all of the other big sites - but any buyer would see the flaw of them buying the traffic for more than it earns.
That failed so stop payments at the height of the site to rake in advertising money - which they did!
Call me a skeptic but I don't think that the realization that they were paying too much was not something that suddenly came to them - anyone with half a brain could see it right from the start - and they had the actual numbers right there in front of them!! - SCAM and FRAUD!
I entirely agree with Austinstar. I was on Bubblews right after they improved the site in July of last year. It's amazing that at that time a lot of spammers from Vietnam and other Asian countries joined Bubblews and were consisting earning $10 for every article of trash they published.
Because now that they've admitted they are a pyramid scheme....how would that be different?
I have just joined the ranks of deleted Bubblews users. Seems Arvind likes to talk crap but is less keen on listening to it.
As you know, I was never on Bubblews. But, my favorite quote about what happened there is this from Arvind: "We reported lots of money that we didn't have. The money that you "earned" never existed. We didn't "steal" it and go on vacations to Aruba or buy motorcycles. It just didn't exist."
So you see, it was all a fantasy anyway. It never existed. It was just a dream . . .
Nice stickman. That non-existing money was a brilliant wheeze... some of their more misguided users are buying it.
Any chance on seeing a copy of your post that triggered the event?
It was more a series of comments on Arvinds latest philosophical garbage that probably caused it. But only questioning what reason anyone would have to join the site when the money and trust has gone.
Quite reasonable I thought.
I left a comment on one of the staff's bubbles asking why no one noticed that money in was less than what they promised to pay a couple of years ago..
I was deleted (again) within the hour..
If B was a country they would have secret police that dragged dissenters out of their beds at 3am and removed them..
I don't write at bubbles any more but I keep an eye on it to see how many days it survives. I noted Mark Ewbie's forced exit for daring to criticise Arvind and I suggest this is a sign. Just like the ravens at the Tower of London or the apes on the rock in Gibraltar, with Mark gone the site is doomed!
Another sign of the bubble bursting is a rapid increase in the number of posts advertising Escort Services (prostitution) on that site (with links to adult sites). I used to flag them but noted the 'staff' (singular?) was very slow to remove them. Now they are so busy banning good writers like Mark and LeanMan, they allow the spam to grow unchecked.
The sad think is those who are left continue to believe that the site has a future even though Arvind has not promised to pay anybody any more. Arvind's continuing ability to inspire confidence in people in general, and the global poor in particular, is sickening.
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