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   lorlie6posted 13 years ago

   In my relatively short time on HubPages, I have come across Hubbers who seem to do nothing but become fans.  Are these spammers, or am I way off base?

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      Grace B. Hornalesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I'm very new here but I get it why people become a fan. Simply because it is one way of getting your profile and hubs viewed! Thus generating traffic to your profile and hubs.
      
      If you become a fan to somebody, he will likely return the favor and read through your hubs if you have interesting hubs.
      
      As the saying goes, "Be found, be around"
      
      It is never a bad thing to become a fan to people, especially intelligent people.

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         lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         How true!

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         mufasakingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         lol i like the last line you added.  We all know what can happen when we becomefans of unintelligent people...we all go watch the simple life.lol

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            lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It can be entertaining, but I'm trying not to do that.  I look at their profile first, check out some hubs, and then decide.

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      rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      it's like facebook or twitter where people just fan or follow someone in hopes they will do likewise.  I like to give people a good reason to fan me, and vice versa.
      
      and for those who have just gone through fanning in hopes I will read your hub, I generally don't. I read the hubs that interest me and there are so many excellent writers that never show their face in the forums.

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         Jane@CMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Bingo!  You are so right!  I read so many hubs from people I've never seen on the forum, really good hubs.

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      Redneckmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Think about it, if you add them when someone visits your homepage they can be spotted. I can name you 5 people who are quality members that fan almost everyone plus the usual " Ello mate are you new, here is how it is done now add me, wink wink, always the usual two

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   Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

   sadly some are spammers, others just like to become ppl's fans.

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      lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks, Crazdwriter, I appreciate your response.

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         Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         anytime...shoot look at me lorlie...224 fans in 3 months? yes I know some are serious but the rest...I don't know

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            drej2522posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Oh come on, crazd! Most people are good at heart. All 224 fans are serious! I'm going for optimism here!

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   Maximus591posted 13 years ago

   There is a mutual back slapping when it comes to fanning
   
   'You fan me and I'll fan you'
   
   On the surface it would appear people are just being friendly when they fan, but on a deeper level, it has something of a sycophantic quality that's really quite disturbing.

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   darksideposted 13 years ago

   They are "fammers".

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      Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol new word to add to the dictionary

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      lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Interesting!

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      Janettaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      yup exactly

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      cosetteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      love it...

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   Poppa Bluesposted 13 years ago

   I suppose some are spamers but who cares? It's all good!

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      lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You are quite right, Poppa, thanks for that...

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      prettydarkhorseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      hi to all, I dont know what is a spammer? please somebody explain to me, thanks...

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         Poppa Bluesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I guess it's people that want you on a list so they can email you sales inquiries etc.

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            lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed, Poppa, they are advertisers masquerading as Hubbers, at least that's my impression.

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         manlypoetrymanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Some folks get that name from being on here with no hubs and no fans...especially after they've been on here awhile.

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            lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I wonder why those folks joined HubPages to begin with, what would their motive be?

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               Crazdwriterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               To annoy us all? lol

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               Rochelle Frankposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Some people think this is just another social network-- it's kind of a game for them. The number of fans you have does not often mean a lot, even though it's nice to think that your "fans" are reading your work.
               Hubpages has a lot of numbers to  consider, and they are fun to watch, but don't give them first place importance in your activity. Follow your own heartfelt counsel.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 13 years ago

   oh like spam in emails...i understand now, thanks to all

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   Flightkeeperposted 13 years ago

   Maybe they're hoping it's like some type of marketplace where they can sell things.

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   Janettaposted 13 years ago

   I think many do it in hopes that atleast some of those they have fanned will fan them back. Sadly, many do which only spurs them on. I always check out a new fan's profile just to see if I was fammed. It's irritating to go to a fan's hubtivity and see a long list of fanning with your name included.
   
   You shouldn't fan some one just to get a fan in return, it's irritating. Kind of defeats the whole purpose of fanning IMO

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      Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Some sites make a distinction between fans and friends. Hubpages don't. So both kinds of relations go under the same category.
      
      As for the general topic of the thread - hubscore algorithm takes care of those who are famming.

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      rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      same here. I always read the profile first to see if they went on a famming spree. I don't fan very often, but it doesn't mean I don't like someone or value their writing.

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   myownworldposted 13 years ago

   yes, and to add to that, alot of people just become your fans...but very few of them actually bother to read your hubs, let alone comment on them! so for me, it's basically, just a number...'real' fans i.e who read your hubs regularly are very rare!

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    rmcrayneposted 13 years ago

    I hear ya Lorie.  I started a similar post a few weeks ago. I had a couple recent fans at that time whose Hubtivity consisted of fanning, being fanned in return and publishing an occasional hub.  No forum activity and no comments to hubs of others.

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    Crazdwriterposted 13 years ago

    I swear I try to comment on my fans hubs but there are soooo many I can never get to them all

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    SoftCornHippoposted 13 years ago

    "I swear I try to comment on my fans hubs but there are soooo many I can never get to them all"
    
    That made me laugh - but really - I don't know how is the best way to respond to a fan's fan mail?  I've been going to a hub of their's to comment, but is that the best way?  I noticed some not really appropriate fan mail - I guess that's "famming"  But it is all fun.  I'm looking forward to the time when I won't be able to keep up with all the fan mail! Ha!

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       tksenseiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I like to send a 5x10" glossy and a lock of my hair they can treasure as a keepsafe.

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          Lisa HWposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Very funny.  I hope you sign the photo too.  No glossy should be without a signature. 

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    rmcrayneposted 13 years ago

    If someone fans me, and I recognize and appreciate them from the forums, I will fan them back.  If it's someone I don't recognize, I will go to their profile.  I try when possible to read one or more of their hubs and comment.  I will fan them if I think I would be consistently interested in their work.  If their hubtivitiy shows them as a habitual fanner (fammer), then I rarely read their hubs, or fan them.

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       lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That's exactly how I handle it, now that I've been fanned by some whose hubs are obviously sales pitches.

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    creativeone59posted 13 years ago

    If someone is nice enough to fan me, I think every good turn deserves another, so I fan them back.  creativeone59

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    creativeone59posted 13 years ago

    If someone is nice enough to fan me, I think every good turn deserves another, so I fan them back.  creativeone59

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    jenblacksheepposted 13 years ago

    Usually if someone fans me I go to their profile and see if they have a collection of hubs that I would be interested in. If I like their writing then I fan them (regardless of whether they were famming) but if they are not in my prefered topics then I don't bother.

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    earnerposted 13 years ago

    I'd never fan somebody just because they fanned me.
    
    My top reasons for fanning are:
    - You talk sense
    - You made me laugh
    - I've found myself on several of your hubs and find your subjects interesting
    - Nice avatar
    - You sound like you're hot
    
    So, mostly for good reasons, but sometimes... that last one.

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       lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Love that, earner-I'm pretty hot, dontcha think?  )

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    Sue Adamsposted 13 years ago

    But have any of you ever deleted a fan? Probably not because it looks good to have lots and lots of fans and does it not raise you Hubber score?

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       Grace B. Hornalesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I agree with this.
       
       To think about it, what "bad thing does it do to you if all people fan you? nothing, right?
       
       There's nothing to loose, in fact you gain because you'll appear on their page and people can spot you and ur hubs and you get famous! ha ha ha
       
       So please fan me guyz, I just started here. But be sure to read my hubs. I'm still busy writing more though. Be patient.

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    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    You can "un-fan" somebody you are a fan of, but you can't "delete" somebody who is a fan of yours. It's beyond your control.

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       Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I don't like that at all. I think we should ask the staff to change the rule.

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          Redneckmanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah like they listen !

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             Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Well, if we put it to the vote and won they might.

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                Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Give it a try, you are not the first who brings this up. But most people like it as it is.

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                   Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   That's what I feared. I don't want fame, only fortune.

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             pauldeedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             On HubPages, as in life, you can choose who you love but you can't choose who loves you.  Unlike many sites fandom is not necessarily mutual.  Our recommendation is to only be the fan of someone who's work you genuinely like to consume.  You don't have to agree with them, you don't even have to like them, but hopefully what they produce is thought provoking and stimulating.  If all a Hubber does is churn out drivel, do us all a favor and quit their fan club.

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                rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I like that, thanks for commenting. hey Paul, congratulations for hitting the 100 slot!  You should make one of those threads spreading the news!

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                Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                In real life, the people who claim to be my friend only to suck me out I can boycot, delete from my address book. Here, what do I do with fanners who post duplicate comments in my fan club without ever reading a word I write? Couldn't those people be blocked from fanning? I can't quit their fan clubs 'cause I never joined them in the first place.

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                   rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   they're everywhere, don't worry about it. it's just a little game some of them play.

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          Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          No, I don;t think so. If you give it a thought, you will see this is exactly like life - you don;t choose your fans, they choose you. And I like it this way.

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       Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       I get an email every time one of my fans publishes a new hub. Thank god I only have 30 fans or so.  What do people do with 1467 fans? do they too get an email every time one of their fans publish? How can they connect with their fans? Well the answer is they can't so what's the point? A fan club? No, it's just a list of hubbers that have seen your work I suppose.
       
       But no-one has yet answered my 2 questions:
       1. Does your number of fans affect your hubscore.
       2. Are hubscores generated by robots or humans?

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          rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          sue, not sure about the answers, but do thinks number of fans is factored in along with other numbers.
          
          did you know you can change receiving an email each time one of your fans publishes?  you can request to receive a daily update.

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          Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          You get this email for people you are a fan of, not for your fans.
          
          Answering your two questions:
          
          1. Yes, slightly. Nobody will tell you the exact numbers though, cause HP don't disclose them.
          2. Of course robots. Or rather computers. How many staff should they have to make this manually? They have hundreds of hubs published daily, if not thousands.

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          lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          1. I have no idea, but I've noticed an increase in my author score as I've gained fans.
          2. The folks at HubPages call it an 'algorithm,' which to me sounds like a whole lotta hooey. )

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          lorlie6posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I forgot to address your point about emails...Gawd, I have no idea what some of these authors do with all of those.  My email is full of HubPages submissions every day!

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       rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       misha, you have 1851 fans is that why you're smiling?

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          Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Sure thing! But may be I started smiling first, and fans came second?

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             rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             I'm sure it's that you're so sweeet and you have a way of expressing yourself that makes us want to listen.

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                Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Ah, you made me blush Rebekah

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Why would you want to delete someone who has fanned you? What difference does it make to you if hubbers you might not choose to fan back are your fans? It's a positive. Nothing negative in having someone as a fan. More fans is good. Means you are popular and writing hubs that others like!
    
    BTW, not only is Hub Pages publishing hundreds (I think it probably IS thousands) of hubs a day,they are also adding newbie hubbers at an incredibly fast rate. We're growing as a community!
    
    As to fammers, yes. There definitely are some hubbers who seem to make a career out of fanning other hubbers. Never publish or comment. Only fan. What this says about their psychology I'm not entirely sure.
    
    BTW, I have quit Misha's fan club about 25 times but he's so darned cute I keep rejoining:-)!  MM

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       rebekahELLEposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       that's funny MM,
       
       we all know that HP hit the top 100 spot today right?  for top web sites in US.  we're moving upward.

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       Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       LOL Why would you leave it? But I appreciate you coming back though ♥

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    Pearldiverposted 13 years ago

    I'm probably like many when it comes down to be fanned by someone who has done the same to 20 others. I like to read the hubs of others before I fan them and generally leave a comment.
    
    Also like others; there are several 'senior' accounts that I have fanned, read their works and commented on... Who don't return the favour to me. Perhaps that comes from their perceived 'coolness' or they don't like my works (or perceived personna of me). Of course Time is another factor.
    
    The best I feel I can do is read and support as many good writers as possible. I think it's nice to have genuine fans and certainly beneficial to your writing if they provide objective critique.
    
    And for those who have read my works; thank you.. I will read yours. If you've fanned me thanks twice

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    chenmikehkposted 13 years ago

    I dont go fanning others! Except those who fan me, I tend to reciprocate. Perhaps my eastern culture of being polite.
    
    Apart from that, generally, unless I read an article I like, I do not become a fan of others.

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    Mishaposted 13 years ago

    Again, friends and fans are different kinds of animals.
    
    You can disapprove their fanmail. Other than that, you can do nothing regarding them being your fans. And frankly, I am at a loss trying to see why you are worked up about it that much. Could it be something else? If anybody is rude to you, you can always report them to staff.

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       Sexy jontyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Ya exactly .... this is the way everyone should deal ....

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       Sue Adamsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       It's not that. I just hate fake. And I hate people wasting my time. But I'll shut up about it now, promise. BTW you, Misha, are very welcome as my fan, please don't go away.

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          Mishaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Aw, thank you, I have no intention to leave.

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