Ads And Reader Satisfaction
. . . And who knows how many regular readers use AdBlockers to read HP articles? But, just out of curiosity, here's a question: When readers use adblockers while reading our articles, does their visit count as an impression?
. . . Second, I was reading an article by Mr. Glenn Stock the other day in which he said that he believes ads have an impact on GA bounce rates. I agree with him.
Remember about two weeks ago when we were having issues with ads not appearing anywhere other than the US? Eugene posted a forum where we discussed the bounce rate at the time, and the bounce rate was actually higher when there were no ads showing up on our articles. I'm not sure how ads can help visitors stay on the page, but they definitely help us in some way. Although I agree that ads between lines break up the motion and disturb the readers.
Best wishes to all!
Yes, it says to make sure your ads are relevant to the content of your website.
But see this section as well: "Is a high bounce rate a bad thing?" The answer is that it depends. Yes, a high bounce rate is bad if your site's success is dependent on users viewing more than one page. For example, if your home page is the gateway to the rest of your site (e.g., news articles, product pages, your checkout process) and a high percentage of users are viewing only your home page, then you don’t want a high bounce rate.
When you visit Hubpages' homepage (discover. hubpages), you will notice that there are relatively few ads (I can see only one ad on the homepage). Readers who reach us through organic searches are unlikely to click on another article in the suggested/related articles capsule... It's because, in my opinion, all of those articles are irrelevant to the content that a reader is reading. Why would they want to read those articles if they're seeking for something else? When seen in this light, a high bounce rate isn't an issue.
I guess Hubpages just have to toe the line and they're limited by TAG in what they can say. It's a shame they have to use the new template, the old one was fine and modification was easier. I heard my name mentioned here, so just dropped in to say hello from my vacation on sunny Paros!
I turned on ad-blocker...
while reading one of my articles.
It appears that the same ad
placed by Google
bypasses ad-blocker. Not only that, the same stupid advert, completely unrelated to content appears no less than 5 times bang in the middle of the page interrupting my text.
I don't need to click on the ad to know that my IQ is high enough to tell me that this cannot be good reader satisfaction!I completely understand your frustration and anger. Regarding ads, I completely agree with you. I'm not sure whether HubPages staff will respond to your email or this thread, or if they will respond to anything at all. With all due respect, I disagree with your assessment of "hopeful newbies." Veterans were once newcomers. As far as I know, no one came to this site as a well-established writer, but the site has provided many of us with a wonderful platform to fine-tune our skills. It is up to the individual to decide whether they want to leave or stay. If you're only here to make money, I believe the site may no longer serve your purpose; as you stated, it's no longer worth it. However, many hubbers here write for almost nothing in return and serve the site (including new and old hubbers)
Perhaps this is why HP doesn't mind relying on newcomers as well. My comment here is not intended to cause chaos, but it is my honest opinion.
The site is going through difficult times, but it has also shown you a golden period. There is no evidence to support your claim that they feed the bosses. If there is, I respectfully request that you prove your claim.
I have no idea how many people will ever stand with me. But I'm being genuine. Yes, the spammers on the site are a pain, but newcomers who can write well are the future; they are people HP should trust and rely on. And believe me, HP does put new hubbers under extreme pressure, just like polishing a diamond requires extreme pressure for it to shine. The majority of my followers and those I follow are old-time hubbers, and every one of them has contributed to my success.
Best Regards!
Italics = Misbah quotes
… no one came to this site as a well-established writer.
I was chief editor of NewDance magazine before Harper Collins published three of my hard-copy books. Like many others on this site, I am a professional writer.
There is no evidence to support your claim that they feed the bosses. If there is … prove your claim
Don’t be so naive Misbah, wake up! Companies must grow in order to make profits so they can sell out to larger companies who make profits so they, in turn, can sell out to even larger companies that make even more profits, etc, etc.
Millions of today’s workers have three jobs and cannot feed their families or pay their bills. Isn't that enough proof in today’s capitalistic pudding?
… the site has provided many of us with a wonderful platform to fine-tune our skills… many hubbers here write for almost nothing in return and serve the site.
Keyword here: serve. Slaves serve, workers earn money to survive.
Regarding ads, I completely agree with you.
In that case, please Misbah DO something about it. Add your voice to our cause by sending an email to: team@hubpages.com before the entire site goes under from lack of reader (and writers') satisfaction.Sue Adams, thank you so much for your response. With all due respect, I am not satisfied with your response. You have no sources to back up your claims that "they feed the bosses."...... Do you know how many members/writers there are on HubPages?
You are simply expressing your thoughts and opinions; we can listen to them, but if we do not believe them, you cannot simply label another person as naive. You haven't said anything that leads me to believe your claims are true.
Here’s a link: https://hubpageshelp.com/money/Learning … y-HubPages (please read this before running your campaign)
Please keep in mind that HubPages is, first and foremost, a community for people who love to write, share information, and help others. Making a bit of extra money is a nice bonus, but it should not be your primary motivation. In other words, writing on HubPages works best as an enjoyable hobby and should not be mistaken for an alternative to employment or an income source that will fully support you.
Have you ever read this before? I know someone here who still makes $200-300 per month, but those are exceptional cases.
Before running these types of campaigns, you must back up your claims.
Thank you & best wishes!Thank you so much for your kind words, Eric. I appreciate it very much. Your comments in the forums are always interesting, informative and helpful. I've always valued your opinion. I just don't like it when newcomers to this site read such claims and believe them without further discussion or investigation.
Blessings to you!
Thank you for your input, Bev. I agree that many of you have witnessed HP's golden period, but things were different back then. Who would want their company to drown in the depths of the ocean? There was less competition back then, less digital age, but now the competition is high, and HP, I believe, is making an effort to improve. Yes, they should respond to the forum messages. I appreciate Matt Wells's continued participation in many threads, but it is not solely his responsibility. It's fine to ask for answers, but accusing them of feeding the bosses is not. ( this is my opinion)
The problem is, Misbah, that the improvements aren't improvements; they are making our articles unreadable. Our articles are drowning in dross.
There was plenty of competition around previously. We're only talking 2018/19 here
Not exactly the birth of the Internet.
And whoever said that HP is relying on 'hopeful newbies' to provide fresh content is also correct... because so many established hubbers have stopped writing because articles look so bad.
As to 'feeding the bosses'... well, as earnings have fallen so drastically for us, it's a reasonable assumption to make. We writers are running to stand still. No wonder so many give up.
I'm leaving my work here simply because it still makes me a few hundred dollars a month, but I prefer to put my effort elsewhere.
Thank you for sharing, Bev.
I'm not sure if HP is truly relying on 'hopeful newbies,' but I am certain that they need new faces.
Secondly, I believe it is up to the writers to decide whether or not to stay.
Furthermore, in my opinion, if anyone truly wishes to leave, they must do so in a respectful manner. Many well-known hubbers have left HP, but not in this manner. But then everyone has their own style. I think I must not interfere in that.
It is up to the writers whether or not they wish to write for the website. What good does it do anyone to criticize others (newcomers) for no reason? I believe that not all new writers are simply stuffing the site; many are writing very well. Please correct me if I am wrongI agree with you, Linda, and I genuinely appreciate your response. I have no issues with anyone or any response to this forum, other than this:
https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4249532
In my opinion, this isn't just criticism; it's an accusation that was later discovered to be an assumption when the person failed to back up their claims. . . I believe the comment is rude and disrespectful as well. I really can't understand what is the point of criticizing people they don't even know (newcomers) for no reason? I don't believe all of the newcomers are spamming the site.
I do understand their anger and frustration as I mentioned here in this comment:
https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4249539
Your and Eric's responses to my comment were both polite and friendly. I appreciate you both!
https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4249562
Blessings and Love to you as always!
I agree with the facts, and I see where you're coming from; when people say something, they will have to listen to something in return, if not always, then sometimes.
You said: It's not your job to tell people how to be respectful, especially those of us who have been here for a long time.
Please don't be harsh because I was polite to you in my comments...
The site is as much mine as it is yours! Yes, I am not here to teach respect and have never taught it. Please do not link it to my previous response to you in another post. It can cause confusions. I already stated, everyone has their own unique style. I don't enjoy cross-talks, but I appreciate your response.
Let’s just end it on a good note: I would have liked it more if Juliette had been able to respond to this question herself. When people say "slave," it makes me giggle. When does HP ask the authors to be their slaves? I would not post any additional comments on this topic since I have yet to receive a proper response to my query; instead, I am receiving assumptions upon assumptions. I have never disputed with any of the three facts you stated.
Take care and enjoy!
Thank you for your response once again, Sue Adams. This is what OldRoses said to you about 8 months ago:
Revenue is gross income. The more important number which they don't mention is the profit after expenses. So revenue of $142 million is meaningless if their expenses are more than that. It is possible to have millions of dollars in revenue and not be profitable.
https://hubpages.com/forum/post/4204614
I found OldRoses’ statement to be valid and helpful
The Arena Group combines powerful brands. HubPages is not the only thing they have to carry along the way.
Your second link contains no information about when it was written.
I believe HP has a bright future, but such campaigns can confuse new writers on this site. I'm aware of all of these details because I have some great HP friends who are old-time hubbers. I haven’t experienced that time of course but I'm aware of that Squidoo thing and all.….
My mental image of Hubpages is that it's like the Marie Celeste, with just Matt in the engine room and remote controlled by TAG. I hope I'm wrong. It's a shame and unfair how we're treated as plebs with lack of information. Meanwhile I'm going back to enjoying the end of my holiday, writing from a hotel room on a stopover in a very hot Athens
(Might write an article about my adventures)
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