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   Carb Divaposted 2 months ago

   More on the topic of the sinking ship that is Maven/Arena Group. Just for fun, I compared my last 7 days here vs. my last 7 days on Medium. On HP 4,633 views and earnings of $14.60. On Medium 1,700 views and $378.98 in earnings. On Medium comments and engagement are almost mandatory to succeed. There are no ads and payments are not restricted to a PayPal account.

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      Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Then, jump ship and go.

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      WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      That's a huge difference. It's my understanding that you only get paid for articles on Medium for the first few weeks or did I get that wrong? Just wondering how you're making so much money. Your post has me considering trying them out.

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         Carb Divaposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         It is true that the newest articles rise to the top, but I have some that were written a year ago that still get traffic. And, you can revise an old article and resubmit and gain new views.

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            WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you so much for the explanation.

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         TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         Not true. I posted an article in April. Has 105,000 views so far, and earned about €1200.
         
         I have articles that are earning from years ago.

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      JerryFisherposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      That works out at $22 per view on Medium. Does that mean people are donating to you? I don't understand how you could could earn so much per view.

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         Glenn Stokposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Jerry, That works out to 22¢ per view, not $22.  That’s more realistic since the $5 monthly fee subscribers pay gets divided among all the authors' articles that they read each month.

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            JerryFisherposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            My huge mistake! Thanks for the correction Glenn. Agree that that’s very realistic.

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               Glenn Stokposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               No problem Jerry. It's an easy mistake with a slip of the calculator.

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            Payton74posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

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               theraggededgeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

               How is it any of your business how other people run their lives?

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         TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         22 cents peer view. I don't understand that either. There is some sort of bonus system at work that I don't understand, but a few months back I did $2k, and I think I might have beenefitted from it.

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      MizBejabbersposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      Linda, glad to see that you are doing so well on Medium. I haven't written anything in quite some time. One reason is that I've come to the conclusion that HP wants plastic articles that could easily be written by an AI. "Keep your personality at home because we don't want to know you" is the attitude that HP editors project. I've missed you and my friends who have left HP, but I hardly venture there because I rarely see anything that interests me anymore.
      You write the type of articles that have a theme that people will follow, so I can see why you are doing so well. I guess I need to get back into the swing of things and check Medium out. Maybe when things calm down at my house I'll do that. Thanks for letting us know how you are doing.

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      TheShadowSpecterposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      Medium sounds good to me.

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      hclpdposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      The good news is that Medium has started revenue share with many more countries including India. So it's time to say goodbye to this place. I already have a reasonable audience on Medium. I think I'll take my chances there.

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         TheShadowSpecterposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

         How is Medium about writers publishing controversial articles on their writing platform?  I've encountered some censorship here on HubPages, but I was wondering if Medium was more permissive about what people publish there.  Artistic freedom is important to me.

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            Carb Divaposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            Here's a link that explains what content they do not allow.
            https://policy.medium.com/medium-rules-30e5502c4eb4

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               TheShadowSpecterposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

               Thank you! :-)

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               Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

               I'm still studing this link, and another one, lately given, and I'll given Medium a go.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            Medium definitely has censorship. You have to read the rules. I know people who got banned.

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      Miebakagh57posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      It means it's more rewarding at Medium than at hubpages.                                           I would have had registered with Medium too. But seems its still restricted to America and European countries.                                       I'm an African.

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         theraggededgeposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

         Check again, Miebakagh, they've expanded the list of countries recently.

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            Miebakagh57posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

            Thank you, Bev. Will do soon.

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            Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            Yes, Bev. Nigeria, my country, and other African countries are now member countries.                                         I'll later give 'Medium' a go. Meanwhile, I'm studing site to get the big picture. Much thanks for informing me about the update.

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      angelic0818posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I'm new-ish on HP but the idea of Medium interests me with some of the comments here- connecting to others and more personal type writing such as poetry. I had a question though about membership on Medium- can you have a free account to write on Medium or do you have to subscribe? Thank you.

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      Coffeequeeenposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I've never heard of Medium before, but it definitely sounds like something worthwhile.  I love writing and reviewing stuff I've watched on TV or books I've read.  Thanks for the heads up!

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   Jodahposted 2 months ago

   I totally agree, Linda. My earnings aren’t quite at your level, but the percentage in comparison are the same.
   Success at Medium depends if people are willing to write frequently and engage with others.

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      MizBejabbersposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      Hi, John, I loved the engaging with others and I really miss it. I didn't realize that Medium did that, but then I kind of lost interest in writing. I haven't worried about it since I retired from "it" anyway.

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         Jodahposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

         Yes, MizB, the community engagement is one of the things that convinced a number of us to start writing at Medium  when we could no longer comment here. Also having no ads was a big incentive.
         I write mostly poetry and short fiction there and although earnings have dropped a little this year I am averaging $150 per month there. If I have one poem boosted that could increase to $700 or $800, which I have made a couple of times.

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   Carb Divaposted 2 months ago

   I have 5 drafts. I'm going to publish them and then stop writing. I expect residuals for a while.

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   Rupert Taylorposted 2 months ago

   Medium didn't work for me, probably because of the type of articles I write - fact-based reportage. The platform seems to favour first-person experiences and opinion pieces, more blog-style writing. Not my thing.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I noticed that when I started.  I changed the way I wrote.

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   eugbugposted 2 months ago

   I usually make about $2 per month on Medium with 155 articles published.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Why?

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         eugbugposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         Presumably because the site isn't suitable for my "how to" guides and science tutorials. I did setup a home and garden publication, which didn't take off, but I haven't given up on it yet. I'm experimenting with Substack at the moment.

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   PaulGoodman67posted 2 months ago

   Medium was great a few years back but, as with HP, earnings have gone down and down.
   
   To stand any chance nowadays, you have to constantly publish new material, and like and comment on the work of others so that they will return the favor.
   
   Old material tends to fade quickly and Medium doesn't pay you for external traffic, so the views you get from, say, Google, don't earn.
   
   I always preferred the HP model but I'll admit that it is also failing.

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      WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So basically you only make money if other writers on Medium read your work? Is this correct?

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         eugbugposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Yes and they have to be subscribers too I believe.

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            WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you for the info.

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         SerenityHaloposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         For the time, yes. You get paid if other Medium writers read your work. It’s uncertain whether it will stay that way. There were talks of changing that to be more open.
         
         The best way to earn on Medium is getting published in publications, then you start getting into different reader circles. You can’t rely on SEO alone to help carry you as well as you could do that here.
         
         Medium’s boost program helps get you noticed. I think Medium is fantastic for creative writers. You get community and earnings for your stories or poems, and that can be hard to do in other places, like here HP is more for SEO. I can’t stress that enough…
         
         Traditional publishing is slow, very slow. You can publish quickly and see a return for your work with Medium. I’ve started publishing creative pieces there and then longer more detailed articles here.

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            WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Thank you for your input. How many hours would one need to spend each day on Medium to earn some money?

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               SerenityHaloposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               I think that will depend on how much you’re wanting to make. If you can plug in a couple of hours here and there to test it out, that might get you started. I currently make about an extra $50 from it a month with a handful of poems published throughout the month. I’ve wondered what would happen if a published daily or every other day.
               
               I don’t currently have the time to invest a lot on the engagement side. So I do what I can when I can. People who spend a lot of time on there are growing rather fast. I think for freelance writers it’s good to keep a few plates spinning.
               
               The key really is getting involved in the publications. Though don’t get involved in a read for reads kind of scheme… Medium frowns on this and it can get you banned if you’re not really contributing but just engaging for the sake of money.

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                  WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  Time wise, this sounds doable to me. I might give it a shot. I appreciate the information you have given me.

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                     PaulGoodman67posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

                     Four or so years ago, I used to write a few articles/month and earn hundreds at Medium. Nowadays, it will get me around fifty dollars at the most. As with HubPages, the earnings trend is downward.
                     
                     Most of the top writers when I joined Medium have left and a lot of the publications have shut down, mainly because of the declining revenue.
                     
                     It's very much a closed system. People pay a subscription and the earnings come from those subscriptions.
                     
                     While there are some people who pay just to read, in many cases, the earnings are effectively coming from other writers. Essentially, the less popular writers fund the more popular.
                     
                     I can't say that I'm a fan of this system.

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            TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            This not true. Most of my readers are not writers. They are readers only. I don't engage. I don't submit to publications, and I have never been boosted. I still earn enough. To make it worthwhile.

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            Sugar Faithposted 2 days agoin reply to this

            Thanks for the info.

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         TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         No. That is a myth by people who misinterpret what engagement means. It means the reader is engaged with what the writer has written - not writers engaging with other writers.
         
         There is also the idea that one must submit to publications and be boosted. Not true.

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      TessSchlesingerposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      You would be right that there is less payment. Three years ago, I would earn $2500 fot 30,000 reads. Now I am paid $1200 for 60000 reads.
      
      I don't write every day and I have never engaged.

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   eugbugposted 2 months ago

   Is anyone having problems importing Hubpages network site articles to Medium I'm finding it doesn't import photos. Maybe it was always like that. Is there a workaround without having to manually copy and paste images?
   
   Edit: I've just remembered how I did it. It works if article content is just highlighted and copied to the clipboard and then pasted into a new blank article on Medium.

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   Yes, that is how it works. But, Can we copy-paste content from one website to another? It will be treated as plagiarism and penalized.

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      theraggededgeposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Yes. As long as the content is published at HP first. Each site has a different audience... HP is external; Medium is internal. You can add a canonical link to tell Google that HP is the main target.
      
      I've also added a note at the bottom saying 'Article originally published at HubPages'.
      
      Remember, it's your work, you can post it wherever you want and it isn't plagiarism because you aren't stealing it.

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   eugbugposted 2 months ago

   I notice now I can't post a link to my Medium Home & Garden publication to Facebook. They're calling it spam. Has anyone ever been successful in sharing links to websites on Facebook? I think they have me on some sort of blacklist at this stage. So I'm just spamming their Linkedin account to piss them off.

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      Kenna McHughposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

      Eugene,
      I have no problem posting on FB from any of my sites.

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         eugbugposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

         The issue seems to be posting links to a publication. I can however post links to articles in it. Maybe the anti-spam algorithm is intelligent enough to discover that I'm the author of all the articles in the publication.

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    Jodahposted 8 weeks ago

    Yes, I often share links on Facebook to my HubPages and Medium articles. I haven't had a problem yet.

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       eugbugposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       I checked again and I can post a link to an article, but not a publication.

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    Sugar Faithposted 8 weeks ago

    Hi, I have been here for many years but I am a newbie on Medium.  Take care!

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    Sugar Faithposted 8 weeks ago

    Can you follow me back in here. I love both of your articles. please don't stop writing in here HP.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 8 weeks ago

    By Publication, do you mean a Blog? Yes, you can't post a link to your own blog. You can post a link to a particular article of yours.
    
    Sometimes, even links to articles are rejected as spam by the illiterate bots (they become illiterate occasionally!).

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       eugbugposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       A Medium publication.

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    Jodahposted 8 weeks ago

    No, I don't think I have ever tried to share a link to a publication, Eugene.

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    Genna Eastposted 8 weeks ago

    Thanks everyone for the interesting information regarding Medium.  Very helpful!

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    Amara Hassanposted 7 weeks ago

    Medium is doing much better than HP. Its look like HP is declining with everyday passing. I have almost left writing here because of that. If anyone from here would like to connect on medium it would be great.

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       Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       A link was given here as to what content Medium don't all.                                              I'm studing that before register or connect.                                       Amara Hassan, so you're at Medium now? Congratulations!

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       angelic0818posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Could you tell me if you need to have a paid account to write at Medium?

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          SerenityHaloposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          You do not. You can only read 5 articles a month though. That makes it harder to engage with others. It’s worth testing things out in the free version.

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             TheShadowSpecterposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             If you have a free account at Medium, can you still earn money from the articles you publish on that writing platform?

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                SerenityHaloposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Yes, you still earn.

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                   Cloverleafposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   I believe their requirements changed. You now need to be a Medium member to join the Partner Program. This means you need to subscribe to Medium, which costs $5 per month or $50 per year.

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                      SerenityHaloposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      It is possible that the rules have changed. I eventually upgraded to the paid version.

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                      Misbah786posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Yes!

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          Grip55posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          My wife said stay here on hubpages, if you don't want to pay for a membership on Medium. If you cannot afford the $5 to check it out stay where you are. - My wife said pay to read or stay where you are. Even Glen Stop does not have a star or a heart by his name of Medium. That is how you tell whether they are a free member or not. I hope cloverleaf is right, and they changed the requirement to join the Partners program. She started out for one month at a $50/year membership than upgraded to $15/month or $150/year. It has paid for itself the first month,

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             WriterJanisposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             What's the difference between paying $5 a month and $15 a month?

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    Carb Divaposted 7 weeks ago

    Those are good questions. Here's a link that explains in detail all about Medium--how to write, how to read, membership, etc. I signed up years ago so don't remember the details. I think it's $5 per month or $50 per year. With that you can read unlimited articles and writing is free. Content without distracting ads and videos as such a relief from what we have here, and interaction with others forms a community of friends as we had here back in the good old days.
    
    https://help.medium.com/hc/en-us/articl … ing-Medium

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       WriterJanisposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Thank you Linda!

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    Grip55posted 7 weeks ago

    My wife writes on Medium. She is a friend of medium membership. She just got done, blocking all the free memberships that followed her. She calls them "Freeloaders"/ When you go into Medium, as a free membership and you post on someone's article, and expect them to come back and post on your article and make you money, you are damaging the platform. You are sucking the life out of it, by draining the finances paid from someone else's membership fees.
    If you plan on doing this my wife said stay on hubpages. She pays $15 a month to write on Medium, and the people whose articles she posts on get 4x the payout. She just deleted and blocked over 100 "Deadbeats" or Freeloaders as she calls them today, that were following her. She has also wrote an article on "Freeloaders on Medium.

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    Miebakagh57posted 7 weeks ago

    Thank you guys for the information about the free and paid account, the subscription and partner accout.                                    I'm still studing the two previous links given in connection with the issue.

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    Mark Ewbieposted 7 weeks ago

    After years of resisting I joined.  First impressions are that it feels a bit like HubPages used to be, if the engagement thing was important to you..
    
    When comments disappeared from HP that felt like a backward step.  No such issue with Medium - it is a big part of what they are about.
    
    The other element is writing.  Just real normal writing to engage with readers.  It doesn't feel forced or spammy somehow.
    
    OK it's only Day 2 for me but I give it a thumbs up so far.

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    TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks ago

    Mark, if you need help, let know. In terms of earni gs, I am probably one of the top writers therr.

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       Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Tessa, how simple is the regisraion process? I need help in this area. Thanks.

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          TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Registration is easy. Earning is not. It also depends on where you are. Medium just said that they have welcomed a whole lot of new countries to earn. However, Medium only pays through Stripe, and Stripe is not in manty of the countries that they mention. So I don't know what is happening.
          
          I earned when I was in South Africa, but I had a Stripe account from the years I lived in the UK and what I earned was paid into a UK bank account. That is the difficult part.

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             Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thank you, Tessa, thank you.

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       TheShadowSpecterposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Does Medium have niche site like HubPages does?

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          TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Not sure what you mean by niche. it has publications on various topics that you can submit to.
          
          The most important thing, though, is to write on topics that have a high readership. For instance, IT has about 50% of readers - well it used to a few years ago.
          
          Topics like politics and self-help have a high readership. Stories about how to write or how to make money have been removed from the algorithm.
          
          Things like poetry, spirituality, etc. have little readership. One might make a few bucks a month, but that's about it.

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             TheShadowSpecterposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Tess?  What I really meant to ask was whether Medium also has vertical sites like HubPages does.  For example, Dengarden, ToughNickel, ReelRundown, TurboFuture, etc.  Does Medium have anything like that on its writing platform?

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                TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                It has publications - tens of thousands of them. Anyone can open a publication. However, there are some top publications, and the trick is to submit a story to them. If the editor of that magazine/publication likes your work, s/he can 'boost' your article, and you will get more reads.
                
                It will take you a while to learn which one's have a good readership.
                
                For myself, I don't submit to publications, but most people do.

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          TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          From someone else's story.  As with all writing sites, most don't earn much, and it is not certainty that one will earn. One has to be willing to see what the website rewards and one constantly has to update skills.
          
          
          https://medium.com/@OrestisPs./how-much … b9b6c9ec93
          
          
          

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       Mark Ewbieposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Thanks Tess, I'll let you know if I get lost.  Currently feeling my way into the place.

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          TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Okay. Good luck. It's a good platform. Remember the days when we learnt SEO and we wrote to sEO standards, and we had to figure out which stories would rank, etc. One has to do something similar on Medium - only taking the readership into consideration. Good luck.

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             Mark Ewbieposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thanks again Tess.  I need to feel my way in to Publications, find out which are the best fit for whatever articles I am trying to publish.  And to be honest, I need to learn to write again.  It's been a long time since I did much of that.

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                TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                You write humour. You need to put humorr and satire in the tag bit. Then go to the SEO section and start it with satire or humor. Google sends a fair amount of traffic.

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    viryaboposted 6 weeks ago

    After pondering on the Medium issue for a few days and reading some helpful links I found here, I decided to take the plunge and dive in.
    Im still a free member now, but I think I’ll consider upgrading to Member. $5 a month isn’t too bad, I think.
    
    I have much material I can repurpose and post there, just to see how it goes.

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       eugbugposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       You also republish an article when it gets stale. It's permitted by admin. I wrote an article about that there.

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          viryaboposted 5 days agoin reply to this

          Can you please point out the article you speak about here?

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             eugbugposted 5 days agoin reply to this

             https://medium.com/technical-excellence … e74046f14d

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                viryaboposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                Thanks a bunch.

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                Glenn Stokposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                I just read your article, Eugene, and this is really good to know. I was not aware they changed their policy. I had given up on Medium, but this could be a life-saver. I'll have to try it with my old articles. Thanks for doing that investigation with Medium's support staff.

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                   eugbugposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                   Thanks Glenn. I wrote that article a couple of years ago and ironically it itself is republished. Not sure whether they've changed their policy in the meantime.

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                      Glenn Stokposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                      Well, I guess I stopped paying attention when Medium began going downhill. It wasn't worth my time, although I tested the waters (so to say) once in a while. But now, I plan to delete and republish an article from 2019 that earned over $400 in the first few months and nothing since.
                      
                      Anyway, thanks for the heads-up that your article was republished a couple of years ago. With the possibility that they changed their policy once again, I'll consier this an experiment. No harm if it fails since we no longer earn from old content there anyway.

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                         Jodahposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                         You can earn from old content at Medium, you just need to pin a few older posts to your profile and change them up now and then, or write a new article and add a couple of links to older articles.
                         I have a poem that I published there more than a year ago and was boosted, have it pinned to my profile and it is still my highest earner each month, because when people check out my profile they often read it.

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                            Glenn Stokposted 5 days agoin reply to this

                            Thanks for the suggestion, John. I actually do pin some old articles to the top. But I discovered it only works when I limit it to one or two. When too many stories are pinned simultaneously, then people don’t see the new ones because they don’t scroll down.
                            
                            The results can differ for a number of reasons, based on how many active followers you have and how the algorithm works in your favor. In your case, you’ve got a lot going well for you. But that isn’t always the case for everyone.

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       Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Viryabo, can you point out to me that specific link for registration?                                  I will very much appreciated it.

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          theraggededgeposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Just go to the main Medium site. You'll see the option to join. Click on Get Started.

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             Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thanks, Bev.

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          viryaboposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Yes, like Bev said.
          I just Googled Medium, (https://medium.com/) and clicked on Get Started on the top right corner.

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             Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Much thanks, Viryabo.

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                viryaboposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                You are welcome

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       WriterJanisposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Good luck! Please let us know how it goes.

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          viryaboposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Thank you.
          Will do.

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    Lowdown0posted 6 weeks ago

    There are tons of AI writers on Medium, it is hard to tell who is a bot or not. There are also so many tall tales of people making money, most writers make less than $5/ month even with a good effort. It is about being politically correct and being a respecter of persons, then maybe you will make $100/month with a near full time effort.

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       TessSchlesingerposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       I made $1100 so far this month. If you want to know why, go to my 'about' section and read through that.
       
       The bottom line is that on every site I have written on since 1999, only the top 5% earn. This is set up so that business makes a profit..
       
       On Medium, this is no different. You are right, most people earn a few pennies. I provided a link earlier on in this thread about the numbers of people who might make a $100 or a few hundred. A very much smaller percentage reeach 4 figures.
       
       People like Barack Obama and Cory Doctorow reach 5 figures.

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          TheShadowSpecterposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Tess?  Out of curiosity, do you know of anyone on HubPages who earns that kind of money on their articles?

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             Cloverleafposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

             I do, on PetHelpful. But it’s taken 13 years of writing here to figure out what works and what doesn’t. It’s been a steady 4 figure/month for about a year now. It really does take a lot of patience, persistency, and constant learning, especially when it comes to SEO, as much of my traffic is driven from Google.

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                TheShadowSpecterposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                I'm glad you told me that.  It gives me hope that I could be a heavy-hitter here on HubPages in the not-so-distant future.

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                JerryFisherposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                Will you still earn this after October 31?  Or, will you shift your articles to Medium or Substack?

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                   Cloverleafposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Jerry, that's a great question!
                   
                   Moving domains always comes with it's challenges. I'll have to move my PetHelpful articles to Discover, just like all the other contributors here. In theory, Discover has a higher Domain Authority (DA) than PetHelpful, and my articles' SEO value should be preserved (the HubPages staff will use 301 redirects to point the niche site urls to Discover urls). Also, the revenue share program will remain the same.
                   
                   BUT, I anticipate a temporary drop in traffic while Google adjusts to the changes (this may take days or weeks).  I also anticipate less clicks on the search engine results pages (SERPS) because I think pet owners prefer to get answers from pet sites. (The name "PetHelpful" carries much more credibility than "Discover HubPages" to pet owners!)
                   
                   Currently, I am importing content to Medium, with canonical links back to PetHelpful. This strategy helps me to reach a wider audience; I can publish the new Medium stories to pet publications. I can also build new backlinks as I go, which will improve "link juice" for Google when the move happens.
                   
                   If I simply "shifted" my articles to Medium (deleted off HP and republished on Medium), they would lose the SEO value they have built over time. So I will only delete/republish work that gets little or no traffic.

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                      JerryFisherposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                      I had the editors shift my articles over to Discover a week or so ago and their daily views along with their ratings and my personal rating have dropped like a stone, so I'd leave shifting them until the last few weeks as you earn so well with them on PetHelpful.
                      
                      Did you consider Substack instead of Medium? Sifting through the comments here, many seem to think Medium is on a downwards trajectory like HP.
                      
                      I have recently read only good things about Substack and what has especially stood out was that some of their publications have been sold on for multi millions. Your pet niche it would seem could create the same interest over time. Just a thought.

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             TessSchlesingerposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

             A long time ago, people did. Some earned $10K per month. Every platform reeaches a peak, and then goes down. Earnings on Medium have gone down a lot. Earnings on Substack, if you have built a following, are more substantiial.
             
             A guy on Medium, started writing sci fi in 2010 on kindle. He has made $1.5 milliiion to date.
             
             Every site works differently, and one has to figure out how to earn on it.
             
             I don't think Medium is going to be paying big bucks anymore. I've just been lucky with a couple of pieces this last while.

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                TheShadowSpecterposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                Thank you for the information.  I think I'll go check out Substack.

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    MizBejabbersposted 6 weeks ago

    Now I know that I may consider Medium. I just got notice that HP was discontinuing some of its niche sites, and I need to go back and reread the notice. I do remember that DenGarden was one of them. My top article is on DenGarden, and I've been considering writing another article aimed at that site.

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       theraggededgeposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       It's not being discontinued. It, along with Pethelpful, is going to be kidnapped and moved to TAG. Any articles left there won't be eligible for earnings. So you need to send an email to team@hubpages.com and request that all of your articles on those two sites be moved to Discover.

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          viryaboposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          “…kidnapped ..”
          

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             theraggededgeposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             Or 'article abduction'

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                Miebakagh57posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

                That's not a hoax. Now, how's this: detention

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                viryaboposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                

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          TheShadowSpecterposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Will this also happen to articles on ToughNickel and TurboFuture?

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             Shesabutterflyposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

             ToughNickel and TurboFuture no longer exist. They have been assimilated into Discover.
             
             These are the only 6 they are keeping around, at least for now. Letterpile, Owlcation, Wehavekids, Delishably, WanderWisdom, and HobbyLark.
             
             It is unclear what the future will hold for them, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of these sites eventually have the same fate as Pethelpful and Dengarden.

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                TheShadowSpecterposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                I do have an article published on Letterpile.  I guess once HubPages begins moving everything over from that verticle site to DiscoverHubPages, it will be time for me to ask them to move my article over to it also so that I continue to get paid money on it.

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    TessSchlesingerposted 5 weeks ago

    For those writing on Medium, if you write a new article, go back to your old articles in your stream, and post them at the bottom of your new article. Also every two or three days pin an old article (that did well previously) at the top of your profile.
    
    The algorithm picks them up and begins to suggest them to new readers, thereby increasing your number of reads.

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       Miebakagh57posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

       Just noted. Thanks, Tessa.

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    Miebakagh57posted 5 weeks ago

    I've read all the idea about both Medium and Subtack. I'm considering giving Medium a go first. But which ever is more accessible. Bingo...

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       Miebakagh57posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

       Seems I just sign up with substack.com/                                   Will someone guide me with a open heart? Much thanks.

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    Jodahposted 4 days ago

    Yes, I admit it doesn’t work for everyone and you have to be able to devote a lot of time there writing and interacting. I have 4.7k followers, but how many are active who knows. I think I have three articles pinned.
    The best part is you can republish articles from here that have been sitting dormant with no views and at least make some quick money from them.

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       viryaboposted 4 days agoin reply to this

       I have 4 articles pinned at a time and then shuffle them every couple of days. I ensure new articles are at the top for a few days then I pin another.
       Just kind of experimenting while trying to find my feet for now.
       
       Thank you for the tip about re-publishing dead hubs there.

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          Jodahposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          Yes, that is the best idea, viryabo. I usually check out my oldest hubs, many still lingering on HubPages and dormant. I update them, remove any reference to hubs etc and put them on Medium. Surprisingly, many perform really well…and you don’t even have to delete them from here.

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          WriterJanisposted 4 days agoin reply to this

          How do you get an article pinned?

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             viryaboposted 4 days agoin reply to this

             
             
             Click the 3 dots/more button on any of your stories you wish to pin and it appears in the drop down menu.
             
             You can always unpin whenever you want.

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                WriterJanisposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                Thank you. I get it now.

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             Cloverleafposted 4 days agoin reply to this

             In your list of stories, you’ll see three dots next to each. Just click on it and choose “pin to profile”. I can’t post the link here, but I wrote a Medium story about the benefits of doing so. If you Google “How to Lock a Story on Medium” you should find it. I discuss 3 different ways to “lock” your stories.

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                WriterJanisposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                Thank you very much!

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       Glenn Stokposted 4 days agoin reply to this

       Compared to you, I only have 1.3K followers. But I think most of them follow hoping I would follow back. I see many of them never read anything before following, so I ignore those. Medium used to crack down on that practice, but they seem to have given up enforcing it. Or, maybe it's built into the algorithm. Who knows!
       
       To your point about republishing articles from here: I do that, but not on Medium. I put them on my website.

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    Miebakagh57posted 4 days ago

    Thanks guys for all these Medium writing tips.

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       WriterJanisposted 4 days agoin reply to this

       Have you been able to sign up yet Miebakagh57?

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          Miebakagh57posted 3 days agoin reply to this

          No. My network is the problem. It's not at the moment sending text security code message from facebook to my phone.

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             WriterJanisposted 3 days agoin reply to this

             I'm so sorry. I know you've been trying for awhile.

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                Miebakagh57posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                I'll keep on trying. Keep fingers crossed for me. Thanks.

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                   WriterJanisposted 3 days agoin reply to this

                   Of course I will!

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                      Miebakagh57posted 3 days agoin reply to this

                      Thanks. And you're always welcome.

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    Miebakagh57posted 2 days ago

    I'm taking note of that rule before I land on Medium.

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