Intelligence, how does low IQ impact communication?

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  1. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    When you are communicating with others, how much is it going to matter how "smart" they are?  assuming, of course, that you are all discussing a topic that interests you!

    1. Pandoras Box profile image66
      Pandoras Boxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I hate to judge people. I know we're all smart in different ways and all that, but maybe a higher IQ would be indicative of a broader intelligence and comprehensive thinking skills.

      And interest. Most people aren't interested in the same things as others. I could care less what happened on American Idol last night, and you could care less about my ideas regarding the possible futures of our society.

      So yeah, alot of conversations just aren't going anywhere much.

    2. alternate poet profile image64
      alternate poetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Of course it matters how smart they are.  Conversations we have with people less smart are frustrating because they cannot get past their own levels of undestanding - as it must be for people more smart when talking to us.

      1. TheGlassSpider profile image70
        TheGlassSpiderposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        OKay, I can understand what you're saying here, but what about the idea that there might be something to learn from a "less smart" person even on a subject that one is "smart" about?

        Another question: how much of what we consider "smart" is culturally based?

        1. mega1 profile image78
          mega1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          question:  is there anything to learn from a "less smart" person on a given subject?   often, yes, very often - that's why everyone does well to keep their mind open and listen!


          question:  how much of what we consider "smart" is culturally based?   I don't know.  I think of "smart" as being bright and willing to learn and having that open mind - therefore probably none of it is culturally based, even though what could be considered "smart" in the sense of "knowledgeable" in one culture wouldn't be so smart in another.  but technically that knowledge would be attached to intelligence - and it has been demonstrated that IQ in one culture is extremely different than IQ in another.  Smart probably crosses cultural boundaries, don't you think so?

          1. TheGlassSpider profile image70
            TheGlassSpiderposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know either, really...I'm just thinking and posing questions and seeing what other people say.

            Perhaps the ability to learn crosses cultural boundaries (i.e., all people have that ability to varying degrees, I suppose), and what is considered valuable or useful "knowledge" or "intelligence" may change depending on one's culture?

            1. mega1 profile image78
              mega1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

              exactly -  that's what I think, too.

              I think the whole question re: smartness, what it is, how it works, who has it, how to use it - is very complicated. 

              I like your open-minded style GS, always have.  Plus you are funny and fun.  I don't agree with what leanman said about your dried up web glands - hahaha  although that was pretty damn funny.  that was a fun thread - where sarcasm was de rigeur!  I loved it - i'm gonna go dig that up!

              1. TheGlassSpider profile image70
                TheGlassSpiderposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Aww, thanks mega! That really means a lot to me. I try to always remember to take a "not-knowing" stance...but sometimes I fail...LOL.

                Can you believe that leanman?! I think he's just jealous *shimmies her web glands* these babies are in perfect working order. He's just making fun of what he can't have wink

                (I was having a lot of fun in there, too...darned work impeding on my HubTime...LOL)

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            ThatGirlFrankieposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            I agree that it does cross cultural boundries. Being smart or intelligent is all about a persons ability to learn.

            1. Rafini profile image87
              Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              I think the ability to learn is more along the lines of the capabilities of intelligence, whereas the ability to think basically shows intelligence.

              imho  smile

        2. alternate poet profile image64
          alternate poetposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          The point was about the communication - not the content.  Communication is about exchanging ideas and so degrees of smart matter as the more the ability to think bigger or further or whatever the more widely you are talking and so the person still talking at ground level is not interesting - unless they are being taught something.

          The content - that is a different story - the information that is being exchanged is what we are learning, some really good teachers are not so clever but they know their own subject and can pass it on with passion and a deeper understanding of it than we get as we pass their subject by.  The same goes for clinically 'stupid' people, my experience of this is that they can tell us more about love than we will ever be able to grasp with our supposedly normal IQ.

    3. Ben Evans profile image70
      Ben Evansposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think many people use and veiw other's intelligence to fortify their strata in life.  Our intelligence also puts us in cliques according to our aptitude and vocation.

      While some discussions are dependent on a level of understanding.  An example would be:  An IT expert talking to a non-computer user.  This is going to be a onesided conversation.

      However when we turn our nose and we look at people and start labling people as stupid, we start looking at people as not worthwhile.
      We lable people according to their wealth, their sexuality or lack there of, their emotional state, and of course their intelligence.

      Of course when two people are talking regarding a subject matter that is not understood by one person, it will be hard to have a conversation.  When we try to stratify oursleves into elite catagories, we cloak our eyes and we dont have a chance to see the rest of the world.

      We can divide who we are and try to look down on others but this is just a start of intelorence which leads to hate.

      I know that the context of this thread is to say two people of different knowledge backgrounds will have a hard time communicating. 

      I do want to say, however, it is destructive to a peaceful society to label and exlude people according our own elite order.

      1. TheGlassSpider profile image70
        TheGlassSpiderposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Wow. Once again you knock my socks off and humble me with your reasonable and compassionate response. You're batting a thousand! Thank you for your thoughts. I couldn't have said it better...and didn't. smile

    4. profile image0
      Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I find with liberals I have to talk slower and use smaller words...alas, they still don't get it! big_smile

      1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
        ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        the statement and the picture gives me dissonance.

        1. profile image0
          Poppa Bluesposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I was hoping my comedy would provide a catholicon and sound a chord of consonance on the subject.

          1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
            ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            comedy appreciated lol

    5. profile image0
      sneakorocksolidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Huh?smile

      1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
        ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        *snicker*

    6. profile image0
      Justine76posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      doesnt matter to me, but most people I know claim to be smarter then me and wont talk to me much,they like to talk down....

  2. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    Pandora - I have to reveal right now that this thread was created out of a discussion Cecilia and others and I were having in that thread about whether Stupid people could really talk to Smart people -   she said if she had called it  "Intelligence, how does low IQ impact communication?" instead of  "Can Stupid People really Talk to Smart People?"  nobody would have come. 

    So I posted this thread to find out whether anyone woulod respond.  I actually like this title - because it assumes that we have intelligence.   I always take offense at the word "stupid" because I'm wired that way.   So that's what this is really all about.

    And, now that you're here I just want you to see that I am not judging people, far from it.  When I post a thread I assume that people who aren't interested at all in the topic won't respond.  And when I am talking to people in the real world I know we all quickly change the subject(s) until we do find common ground or if we don't we don't keep playing with each other.   

    I think its fun to watch the threads get tangled - watch the subjects go of six different directions and see who people are by how they respond and what kind of things they laugh at.  But when someone just resorts to "poking fun"  I either get irritated or bored.  blah blahdy blah blah.

    anyway, at least you did show up here and even if we are very different - I would talk to you!

  3. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    so, I guess, since its ok to be serious here, I'll just say that what bothers me is when someone enters into discussion of a topic without really having knowledge of it but because of huge ego problems can't just admit they don't know something and ask for information.  Most people won't belittle others for not knowing all the answers about a subject - most people will actually admire another person for actively trying to get ALL the facts before they develop their own opinion on the subject.  So many times I find people revealing immediately how ignorant they are of a given subject, yet vehemently and churlishly pursuing their opinion as if it were the only "right" way to think!  man, that pisses me off!

    1. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I hope you're not referring to me in the religious forums!  LOL
      Occasionally I make the mistake of going in there because I think the question is looking for real answers LOL  too often it doesn't occur to me the forum question is posted for Debate!  At least, not until someone politely reminds me.  LOL

      1. northweststarr profile image81
        northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Ooo, I'm going to have to go to the religion forums.  What fun! wink big_smile

        1. Rafini profile image87
          Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          lol

          I have learned to remind myself to LOOK first before jumping into a thread!  lol

          1. northweststarr profile image81
            northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Oh goddess, why did I do that? Aaaaahh! sad

            1. Rafini profile image87
              Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              big_smile

              i tried to warn you  big_smile

              I've also promised myself I'll never go back, but...sometimes...those subject lines look too interesting  lol

              1. northweststarr profile image81
                northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                They are aren't they? I just wanted to "explore my ism." wink

  4. Shadesbreath profile image82
    Shadesbreathposted 8 years ago

    Huh?

  5. profile image0
    sneakorocksolidposted 8 years ago

    Poor reception maybe?smile

  6. profile image0
    ThatGirlFrankieposted 8 years ago

    If your iq is poor, let's awknowledge that your reasoning cognitive thinking skills are poor. Part of being smart to me is having a firm grip on common sense but this too is effected by intelligence.. The ability to problem solve. Also effected would be your ability to take in what's going on around you, keeping one from being fully able to keep a point made in conversation in context. This would then effect the lower IQ'd persons ability to communicate effectivly or contribute valid points. This all varies based on the conversation had. Basic communication by way of body language is also off the mark because of a lack of boundry understanding or commonly used signals people use to instigate and guage different reactions. I feel like I just spoke in circles!

  7. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    Yes, but then there's always that it is difficult to know how "smart" someone really is here in the forums - writing in these boxes and waiting for a reply and then getting distracted by another thread or a tv show or something - and sometimes people sound like they really don't know anything and then you check their hubs and they have exquisite writing skills or alot of knowledge about something you didn't even know existed!  Man, this is a fun place.   And sometimes when we get on a good topic the conversation soars!  and sometimes people are so funny I nearly pee myself laughing - well, and then you find out that person who made you laugh hysterically is on the other side of the world living in a very stressful situation and its just awesome! awesome!  so basically, I don't care much how smart people are, as long as they are communicating - its all good!

  8. ceciliabeltran profile image72
    ceciliabeltranposted 8 years ago

    Wow, this is a good forum! I'm glad you posted it. Maybe I'll read more tomorrow!

    1. mega1 profile image78
      mega1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      it was your idea!  and I am very glad you were wrong about it!  heh heh heh!

      1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
        ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        I know right, it such a rich topic! And i think the one I started is losing steam. smile

  9. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    What more can we possibly say about this?  I have definitely learned how to communicate better in the forums, but sometimes I just don't want to use my new knowledge and I act like a stupid pig!  I could see a doctor - maybe I will!

    1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
      ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      forums are a different animal as you cannot use your hands to calm people down, your eyes to show your joking and your tone of voice to show you mean well. It is really a great exercise as a writer to learn how to communicate better through words because you get real-time feedback.

      1. mega1 profile image78
        mega1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

        well said - exactly what I would have said if I were only more intelligent!

        1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
          ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          wow, that is a compliment I cannot accept for it is inconceivable for me to think myself more intelligent than you. smile (girlfriend!)

  10. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 8 years ago

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/2831972828_b18618c5f3_o.jpg

    1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
      ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      thanks, kitty cat. now run off and catch something using your reflex while I deliberate on sending you to a chinese restaurant.

      1. Obscure Divine profile image53
        Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        We go to a Chinese restaurant nearby, and the "Teriyaki Cat on a Stick" is totally scrumptious!  Mind you, the protein content is still higher than the common forms of "road kill" that they use for the entrees at the cheap, all ya can eat,  buffet!

        1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
          ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          your chaos is organizing in my brain and is beginning to form a pattern. smile

          1. Obscure Divine profile image53
            Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Oh, no!  It hasn't even organized nor formed a pattern in my brain, yet!  Chill out, on the telepathy!  smile

            1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
              ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              what i meant was you are beginning to make sense, in your own weird idea of sense.

              1. Obscure Divine profile image53
                Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Whatever; ha-ha!  That's funny, in its own oddity of madness.

                1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
                  ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  you're sometimes like a cactus with a pink flower on top. prickly but decorative.

                  1. northweststarr profile image81
                    northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    >decoratively prickly is not very useful<

  11. Rafini profile image87
    Rafiniposted 8 years ago

    Wow, interesting thread!  So, how does low IQ impact communication? 

    Let's put it this way: 

    Communication between various IQ groups gives the persons with a higher IQ the opportunity to learn how to communicate with someone with a lesser IQ, while giving the persons with a lower IQ the opportunity to grow and learn from the persons with a higher IQ.

    1. Obscure Divine profile image53
      Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      This is, of course, if you believe one test determines one's ultimate level of awareness - which is not true.  People, as in Homo sapiens, are intelligent in different forms and/or ways - from one to the next, much like other forms of life have heightened senses that we could never even begin to understand.  The vast animal kingdom, alone, proves such things...

      1. Rafini profile image87
        Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        No, I believe this is true whether or not a test is involved.  It has been proven and is the reason behind mainstreaming disabled students into regular classrooms.

        1. Obscure Divine profile image53
          Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          One short, limited test proves awareness & knowledge, huh?  LOL! 
          Well, one could say it would definitely weed out the mentally challenged folks, but that doesn't say a lot, considering you shouldn't need to take a test to determine that. 
          Plus, the tests aren't accurate.  I'm unbiased, considering I've took a few tests over the years and have seen numbers as high as 160 on the average/total...and up to nearly 180 in the intuition section of my tests - from the so-called IQ results.  I know I have a lot to learn, and by having a supposedly high IQ, I know that the tests are a load of crap - if that makes any sense.  wink

          1. Rafini profile image87
            Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            What does this have to do with communication between low IQ & high IQ?

            1. Obscure Divine profile image53
              Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              It means we all learn from each other and our surroundings; communication is a must!  big_smile

              1. Rafini profile image87
                Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                yes....and?  how does your previous post (on IQ testing) relate to how low IQ impacts communication?

                1. Obscure Divine profile image53
                  Obscure Divineposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                  You support the so-called testing, I do not.  On that post, I was just saying the IQ test is, overall, a load of crap.  ...There is no need to taint the actuality of my last comment, when I said that "we all learn from each other and our surroundings; communication is a must!"

                  1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
                    ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    somebody failed the mensa exam *snicker*

                  2. Rafini profile image87
                    Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                    Where did I say I support the IQ test?  hhmmm?


                    It is rather obvious there are IQ discrepancies throughout the worlds population, and all of these people need to communicate with each other.  Correct?  So...how is this communication impacted when it is obvious there are discrepancies in IQ?

  12. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    I read somewhere that Intelligence Quotient or IQ is really a measure of your ability to learn, not how much you already know.  So when you take an IQ test they are just saying that you either have an exceptional abiity to learn and can demonstrate that, or not so much.  I think most tests are bogus because some people have learned to take tests better than others and do well, even though in learning situations they may not be so good.  But they say these modern IQ tests get around that somehow - trick questions or something.  Anyway - I learn alot from everybody, smart or not so smart - but mainly I learn the most from rich people.  lol

    1. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol
      Send them my way, will ya? 
      lol

  13. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    rich men, actually!  lol

    1. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol
      Send them my way, will ya?
      lol

  14. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    should I just put up a sign:

    ATTENTION:

    ALL WHO ENTER HERE, LEAVE YOUR IQ'S BEHIND!  ALL YOU WILL NEED IS AN EGO!

    1. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      lol

    2. ceciliabeltran profile image72
      ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      That's from the classic Dante's Inferiority Complexes.

  15. northweststarr profile image81
    northweststarrposted 8 years ago

    Personally I don't care what someone's IQ is as long as they know what they're talking about, can make me laugh, or really believe in what they are presenting.  That being said, I do have a problem with complete ignorance or intolerance in a writer. Too many people write "nonsense" hubs around here and that really only belongs in the forums. But it's nice to see a forum about something other than what I ate for breakfast or who's mad at who on hubpages.

    1. mega1 profile image78
      mega1posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm having an oatmeal cookie and coffee right now!  lol

      also, this morning I published my latest hub about slang words I use!  is that what you mean?  big_smile:

      1. northweststarr profile image81
        northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

        Of course not, you know you make me laugh mega!  I love your nonsense! wink  Going to that slang hub right now.... big_smile

        1. northweststarr profile image81
          northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Oh god, I backpedaled! Did I backpedal? I'm so bad at confrontation! sad

          1. ceciliabeltran profile image72
            ceciliabeltranposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            backpedaling nowadays is just breaking so that you don't hit the tree.

            1. northweststarr profile image81
              northweststarrposted 8 years agoin reply to this

              big_smile big_smile big_smile

    2. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, it's nice to have an interesting topic to discuss....

  16. skyfire profile image71
    skyfireposted 8 years ago

    Best Answer on IQ ever :

    http://hubpages.com/forum/post/934488


    lol lol

  17. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 8 years ago

    obviously the intelligence of a few of you is not just low, but entirely missing!  and mine as well?  of course.  now.  hmmmm.

    the question at hand is . . . who wants some nachos?

    no, I'm quite sure that wasn't it.  (whining) I don't wanna go back to the OP and find out!  I'll just talk about shoes, then.

    1. Rafini profile image87
      Rafiniposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Oh, No, no, no, No!  I wanna go back to Nachos!!  lol

      Can I have some?

  18. andromida profile image60
    andromidaposted 8 years ago

    Low IQ might result in misunderstanding in communications or even a fight smile

 
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