Google De-ndexing Hubs

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   SunSevenposted 15 years ago

   Dear Hub Team,
   
   Google has de-indexed one of my hubs http://hubpages.com/hub/Optimizing-Fire … And-Tweaks . How do I get Google to index this page once again? I also like to know what is wrong with this hub and what could be the possible reason for it to disappear from google search results.
   
   Thanks and regards

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   You are not alone:
   
   http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/3851#post30544
   
   No answer as yet I'm afraid

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      ProCWposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hey Mark... I found your culprit...
      
      Searched google with...
      
      "Nobody could argue anything other than the Apple iPhone was the best new cell phone released in 2007."
      
      and the expanded the results... bottom of the results came up with...
      
      http://marcus1234.wordpress.com/2008/04 … tech-toys/

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         Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         No - I added that inlink after the hub was penalised. It didn't help.

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            ProCWposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Hmmm.....

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   SunSevenposted 15 years ago

   The hub is currently the first one on yahoo http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Optimi … mp;fr=moz2  and MSN http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=O … orm=CHROME
   Previously it was at the first spot on google too
   Is google penalizing Hubs in favor of knol?

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   ProCWposted 15 years ago

   SunSeven... that page is still indexed... but so are...
   
   http://technews-watcher.blogspot.com/20 … weaks.html
   
   &
   
   http://sumurbatu.blogspot.com/2008/07/o … fox-3.html
   
   Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
   
   Bad joke... hehe... What should be done?

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   I have tried removing all the Amazon ads as well. No go.
   
   I am getting traffic from Yahoo so I added the Amazon back.
   
   I am stumped.

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      SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Ditto

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   Mishaposted 15 years ago

   Well
   It is definitely still indexed: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en& … gle+Search
   
   You are probably experiencing yet another Google dance. How long does the problem persist?

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      SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Misha,. I think no google visitors on the hub since a week or so. But this is really strange. When I checked the site:operator and the info:operator a little while ago it wasn't showing at all!

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         Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I saw Paul or Maddie mentioning Google problems in some other thread. I personally am fine so far, but I had some terrible time last year for about two weeks when Google did this to my main money-making page. It came back, though But I am actively diversifying since

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            Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            This has been going on for months.
            
            All it has done is persuade me I should not rely on google for traffic, so I have been seeking other sources. Best result this month is 40,000 page views on one page without search engine or social networks
            
            And who knew MSN live could send so much traffic if you hit it just right?

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   Mine is still indexed too. It is just on page 709
   
   I have not reproduced it anywhere else either......

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   ProCWposted 15 years ago

   Really weird.

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   Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

   Sunseven - if you work out how to fix it, please let me know.

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      SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Sure Mark. Although trying out new things to fix this, I am afraid I am of little help right now.

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    I hope things will be back to normal soon. I am afraid of the Google slap which squidoo suffered some time back.

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    I wish it comes back both to you and Mark, and to whoever else is affected

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    Jennifer Bowmanposted 15 years ago

    I seem to be suffering, too. I was getting 300+ visitors per day to my nipple piercing Hub, and yesterday there were just 21.

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    Lissieposted 15 years ago

    There is a PR toolbar update happening at the moment - maybe stuff will settle down in a day or 2

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    On the spot Mark! The traffic from other sources to my hub in question made sufficient adjustments in the stats page
    (Not in terms of revenue )

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    There is no question search engine traffic converts better, but I have 2 hubs like this. I wrote 3 at the same time. 1 is fine and gets good traffic from google. The other 2 were fine, then one day wham! No google traffic and they are both down in the 700s for a search result. I have no idea why.
    
    I checked all the webmaster forums and all they ever talk about is "gaming" the system - what you have to do to squeeze past the rules - much like some of the internet marketing guys do here.
    
    I don't do that. I write it and away I go. All original, no trying to trick the system.
    
    But I can get penalized too. So........

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    gogetterposted 15 years ago

    You're not alone, one of my hubs disappeared about  a month ago, and is still mia.  At a stage it was no 1 and now its gone   As a result my traffic has halved).  Hopefully there is a way to solve this

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    terrygposted 15 years ago

    I do not think its a Google slap. My hub 1on40 is still page 1 number 2 and has been since it was published.
    
    Pity it doesn't convert well. Anyway, you guys may be looking at another issue besides a slap.

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    If you have any other ideas, I am open terryg. I tried what you suggested before and removed the Amazon ads. After about 6 weeks I added them back - made no difference either way

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    terrygposted 15 years ago

    I guess its the same old again, link link and link.

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    Thanks terryg. Unfortunately, I have done all that. I have left comments, generated links and still - down on page 709
    
    I have another I wrote at the same time which is fine, but these two are dead to google. But not to yahoo or MSN lol

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       terrygposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I liked your comment about other traffic sources. With 40k from MSN I would not worry about G.

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    lol
    
    I guess I am not explaining very well.
    
    Do a google search for "five best iphone cases" without the quotation marks and see what you find
    
    The 40,000 was not from a search engine - that was something else.

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       terrygposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I have a plan.
       
       One thing I do not see is the keyword with quotes from any other source. I personally would start a new free blogger blog titled the keyword, lens, and every other social bookmark just with that keyword phrase only.
       
       That may help you.

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       jyuvaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thats look good Mark on second position

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          Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          lol
          
          That is a different hub which has a link to the lost one. Not the lost one.

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    I guess we all miss insights from the team.

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    Isabella Snowposted 15 years ago

    This is how I have re-indexed my hubs that somehow became un-indexed:
    
    Put the full url in the google search box, click search.
    
    At the bottom of the page will be Google links. One says "Dissatisfied? Help us improve."
    
    Click on it, it takes you to a new page. Fill in the box, answer the question, and enter the URL in the URL box provided below.
    
    I dont know what that is actually meant to be used for, but I was certainly dissatisfied with the results not showing my hub. I typically would say something like, "this url was indexed 24 hours ago but no longer is, for some reason."
    
    My hubs were always re-indexed within 48 hours.
    
    I did that something like 10 times and it always worked -- dunno if it was coincidence or not. I haven't done it for awhile, though.
    
    Maybe it will help some of you.

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       SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Hugs and Kisses Isa I will try that and post the result to your mail box
       Warm Regards

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    Isabella Snowposted 15 years ago

    I hope it helps

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    Thanks Isabella - I will try that. Although mine are still indexed they are just buried in the back of beyond for any sort of search result. I have tried everything else, so it can't hurt

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    topstuffposted 15 years ago

    Dont worry toomuch guys

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    waynetposted 15 years ago

    Always taking time to see who are your competing sites that could have knocked you further down the search results and re optimize your hubs accordingly could be applied in the form of a hub page audit.
    
    The mysteries of the google algorythm annoy me, but also inspire me to crack it one day!!

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    sciguyposted 15 years ago

    Not that this will be particularly helpful to anyone, but I experienced the same thing with my (single) hub. I spent a fair amount of time putting together a little article on spacecraft designs that the US or Russia worked on but that got canceled when the spacecraft was only partly completed. http://hubpages.com/hub/Spaceships-That-Never-Were
    
    For a few days it didn't show up at all on google (ok, no surprise - it takes a while for it to get indexed). Then it appeared on google, and was the first result for some of the names of the specific spaceships. Now, a few days later still, it doesn't seem to appear AT ALL for many of the ship names. I wasn't really expecting to make any money off of it, but it's annoying that I worked on the article and now it appears that people who search on the topic will never see it...

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    Eric Graudinsposted 15 years ago

    This may be of interest to you all.
    It's about proxy hacking, which basically means that google doesn't get to see the content on your site.
    
    It's unlikely to be  the cause of your problems, because it's usually done to high profile sites, and apparently Google fixed the flaw in May 08.
    
    But who knows ??
    
    http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/google-proxy-hacking
    
    It's a long discussion, but a relevant part about how to tell if you've been proxy hacked is about 6 screens down.

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       SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Its seems too technical for me. Anyway I don't think its possible for a hubber to implement all that codes on hubs in question
       
       I have tried what Isa has suggested. Waiting for the results

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    Mark Knowlesposted 15 years ago

    That is interesting, although it doesn't seem to apply to me. I have tried Isabella's suggestion and am waiting to see if that helps.

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    Its still the same. Nothing has improved. Paul?, Jason?, Anyone?

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       pauldeedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I don't have any great answer.  It's always a bit of a mystery the way Google operates.

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          SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Any suggestions, however wild? I am thinking of something. Perhaps, can I mail you with details?

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             pauldeedsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

             Sure, you can email me.

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    Sent you a mail Paul (to team@hubpages.com). Looking forward to your views.

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    5linxGlobalOptionposted 15 years ago

    HI! My website has a / forward slash and it won't accept it when I sign up. WHAT SHOULD I DO? IT'S MY ONLY WEBSITE.

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       darksideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       I've got no idea what you're asking about.

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    spudsposted 15 years ago

    I wouldn't panic. Sometimes Google does this. I'm sure it will re-appear soon.

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    Good News! I am back in the search again http://www.google.co.in/search?num=20&a … &meta=
    
    Feels A Lot Better
    
    edit: Bad news too Its already stolen! http://technews-watcher.blogspot.com/20 … weaks.html

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    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL, take it easy, buddy, just report them to adsense
    
    Coming back up is much more significant event - congratulations!

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       SunSevenposted 15 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks Misha

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    Isabella Snowposted 15 years ago

    SunSeven -- Is the hub that is re-listed one that you tried my suggestion with??

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    SunSevenposted 15 years ago

    Yes Isa. I did what you suggested( among some other things, like submitting it to non-english search engines and directories). I do not know which worked. Thanks a1000 for you to suggest what you did.
    
    Warm Regards

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    Health Consciousposted 15 years ago

    Sometimes it is enlightening to look at things from the opposite viewpoint.
    
    Google has the responsibility to provide the absolute best results it can possibly find. They spend enormous amounts of time thinking about how to best devise a program which can look at factors and say this is relevant to the words searched.
    
    They can not understand the words as far as putting together a thought pattern so there has to be other clues. Figuring this out is what drives SEO, however effective that can be. As more try to figure out the workings the more they have to change to keep any one from dominating.
    
    The other factor not often thought of and many times totally disagreed about from the sites standpoint, is a simple fact of how long do you allow one site to dominate the front page especially if there are millions contending for the spot.
    
    If I was involved in making a fair search engine I would every so often scramble the whole thing, thus allowing for others to rise higher. I have noticed that about the same time periods that there are new page rank settings, there are many shakeups.
    
    Only real solution, change enough to be considered a new page or create a new outlook entirely and enjoy the ride.
    
    To expect one page to continue as a reliable revenue source is a great dream, however if you consider all the rest that want to be in the same spot, it is not fair.
    
    Like all aspects of life, keep producing so that there is always another one growing as one declines.
    
    Some say life is fleeting, I say the more fleetings you can input into your life the more fun you have.

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    fun2hubposted 14 years ago

    I read somewhere that google partially/completely de-indexes some blogs, does it still happen to hubs also?

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