Hubbers who left?

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   Ladybird33posted 8 years ago

   I was just wondering which long term hubbers have left since Panda issue?  Yes, I am being noisy BUT I am really concerned as well.  With that said, I am going to hang in there because I like HP!

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      Marisa Wrightposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It depends what you mean by "left".
      
      Nelle Hoxie has deleted all her Hubs (because they were all Amazon sales Hubs and she didn't feel they would work if she made them compliant). 
      
      Most other Hubbers who've "left" have just stopped writing Hubs, they haven't deleted their existing ones - though they may have had a lot unpublished. You only really know they've gone because they're not in the forums.

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         candice5posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         I personally won't be missing those review Hubs, they really didn'tbelong on a Site like this. Just my opinion though, others may disagree

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            WryLiltposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Well she was earning thousands each month from "those review hubs". In fact I find "review hubs" earn far more than information hubs.

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               Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

               thanks Candice and WryLilt, for commenting...but I agree with you both in many different ways   My best

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            thisisoliposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            Since this site bases itself on making money online, you would have thought this would be an ideal place for hubs which are keyword focused traffic and earnings generating?

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         Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Well, some have stopped "publishing" and some have "left" which is why I asked. I appreciate your reply and I understand that about Nexie, but it is sad, no doubt.  I am trying to figure out which hubbers have "left" because in this day an age, leaving so soon without realizing the impact is well, not all that good.  Because we still (as a group) have the power to change things here, during tough times....

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   andromidaposted 8 years ago

   I am not leaving.I hope HP to bounce back.But I am really concerned to see massive HP traffic fall in comptete.com and alexa rank too.

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      Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for responding and thrilled your are staying too.

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   Helpful Hannaposted 8 years ago

   Traffic has really slowed.  I know people who are having better success elsewhere.  I hope HubPages recovers because I really enjoy it.

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      Andrew0208posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Mine is up and better than 2wks ago. HubPages can only get better.

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      Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Hanna, it will get better, my traffic is starting to pick up.

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   thisisoliposted 8 years ago

   I have drastically reduced my time spent on Hubpages until I see some sign of moving in the right direction. The way this disaster has been orchastrated has left many people in unfortunate situations, and I odn't agree wiht how many people on here have been treated.
   
   I don't think you need to be particularly concerned though, Hubpages has dropped but not been destroyed so you can still earn if you work hard enough.

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      Baileybearposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm getting more page views to my new website (with only half dozen pages so far) than I am to my 50 hubs.

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         Suzanne Dayposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         So am I.

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            IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

            My own sites and blogs account for 50% again of my HP views. It is still HP that is bringing in the money though, not that there is much of it.

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      Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree, that this change hasn't been great and some of the treatment is being addressed but I am waiting to see what happens.  My activity showed but I am starting to be more active.  Thanks for the comment.

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   WriteAngledposted 8 years ago

   Can't say I'm getting more views, but a single Adsense click on my web site yesterday generated more income than HP Ads did over 10 days. It wasn't a lot, but even so, considering my web site is new with very little content...

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   tlpoagueposted 8 years ago

   I know of a few that left because real life issues took over their time to write. With all the changes being made, it is making it harder to earn an income here. I have tossed the idea up a few times myself, but decided I would wait it out to see how things go.

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      Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, I think we all have been tossing the idea around on staying or leaving or waiting...which is where I am at, waiting but trying to be active.  I appreciate your comment.

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   Richieb799posted 8 years ago

   I haven't left I'm just on vacation, back tomorrow!

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      Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Good and hope your vacation was wonderful!

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   CASE1WORKERposted 8 years ago

   I would imagine that those who are totally reliant on their on line income would have to search elsewhere- however for those of us whose on line income is well....low..... it might be writing where we are happy.
   I am really happy on HP I know some people feel they have been treated badly and emphasise with them, however I am sure that there are two sides to every story and I think impatience may be a factor amongst some people
   Richieb799- back from your holiday seems like ages- looking forward to some travel hubs

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      Baileybearposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I haven't personally been treated badly by HP. Plus I didn't have much income to lose anyway.

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         Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

         thanks for clarifying and I have not been treated badly either.

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   Andrew0208posted 8 years ago

   Same poster(s) with several ids; you could also include this in your rants - "hubbers who stayed back."

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    emievilposted 8 years ago

    still here but I stopped writing hubs. Not because of the changes but because, well, I think I lost my drive to write

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       Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Gosh, I hate to hear that! I think that is probably what happened to most writers here...the lost their mojo during this transition (or whatever it's called).  Hope you get it back!!!

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          emievilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Ladybird. I really miss a lot of hubbers here, like you. It's not the same place it was when I first came on board.

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             Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Agreed. It definitely not the same as it was when I first arrived either.

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             Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Yes, I agree with you and Cagsil, when I first started it was popular, exciting and people wanted to learn, write, compete and most of all help each other.  You guys made me WANT to be a better writer.  Those charateristics have changed for me at least....not completely in a bad way, just a different way.  Hopefully that makes sense

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                Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                It does sound a bit abstract.

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    Cagsilposted 8 years ago

    Hey Lady,
    
    There are quite a few people who are still here, but many of them have been forced to expand their portfolios, by lessening their exposure to HP and increasing their writing in other places.
    
    This isn't a bad thing, but it does require a change in time spent here. Many people have unpublished hub which they are moving to other place, but this takes time and energy. Not to mention, the Staff here was not kind at all to those who wanted to help HP regain it's previous position and power.
    
    The successful money-makers went out of their way to try and help Staff right the sinking ship, but were shunned. That in and of itself was pathetic, considering before Panda, Staff was listening to the community as a whole and now don't give a damn what the community has to say.
    
    As you can tell from my post, I am still here, but with a reduced portfolio, like many others. I am focusing on other things, but I am still writing here also. I have faith in people and I expect Staff, if they want to be successful, to fix the problem. It is a bit of a stretch, in some people's eyes, but that is just who I am.

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       Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks for the comment, I hate to read it but wanted to know!  I have to be honest, I did reduce some of my hubs, yet, I have not gone to another site...I am kind of waiting to see.  Gosh, I really have the faith the HP will do the right thing here....

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          Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          You're welcome. It's nice to see you floating about the forums. It's been a while. Hope you are well.

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             Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Cagsil, yes, I have not really been in the forums, not sure why, I guess just busy in life   You know how it is.  Hope you are well, happy you are still here   My best to you

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                Cagsilposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Thank you kind Lady.

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          whoisbidposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          I am new to HubPages but I know that it is not just HubPages that have been hit. I guess there are millions of websites who are not posting about their loss of revenue and it will become a great issue later on. I don't think you people here are alone at all and a ton of good sites have suffered the same. My friend lost 40% of his revenue overnight. If someone is depending on the web for their money it is really serious for them.

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             IzzyMposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             Yes it is serious to a lot of people here, and that is why they are not posting. They are busy developing their own sites elsewhere.
             We can take what we have learned here and use that knowledge to write new blogs, sites, articles elsewhere.
             I sincerely hope Hubpages picks up again. They have taught me so much, and I am happy to leave my hubs here while I work on new stuff.

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    theirishobserver.posted 8 years ago

    Their frustration is understood, some experts say that the internet is recession free, however, that is not true, here in Ireland one of the biggest social networking sites, IrishBlogs.ie, has been inactive for over a month now, so the internet is not recession free, people need to keep their options open, have as many accounts as possibel right across the net then as one closes you can continue with others, I published a fairly decent Hub on social networking which should be read if you want to know how to survive in a depressed market

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    cindi hposted 8 years ago

    I'm still here, not that I've really been noticed anyway, but I only joined as a way to get my thoughts and feelings out. I haven't written anything lately as I've been focusing on 'life' and waiting for that next great inspirational event. I'm not in this for the money and that's a good thing since I haven't made any, haha. Still I enjoy reading others hubs, forums and comments.

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       Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Cindi, I think it's important to get your thoughts out and I appreciate your responding.

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    Onusonusposted 8 years ago

    I left to get a sandwich. But I'm back now.

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       Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Now that you are here, I look forward to your insights.

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    Ardillaposted 8 years ago

    Sorry to interrupt but... what was that Panda issue? ^^

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       Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Google changed their search engine algorithm, which has hurt sites like HubPages a lot. It is a matter of their ranking and traffic having gone down.
       
       HubPages has been implementing new rules and policies in an attempt to improve its standing with Google, and that has caused a lot of problems with hubs being moderated, and much friction between some Hubbers and staff.

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    Kidgasposted 8 years ago

    I have been spending a lot less time at HubPages since I have been developing a couple of my own sites.  Now those sites are getting more traffic than 200 Hubs.  Panda was just the push I needed to branch out on my own.  But HubPages did teach me a lot about SEO and writing content.  Unfortunately, my traffic here is still slowing fading away.  I am hoping it will reach a bottom soon.

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    Cardisaposted 8 years ago

    When I first joined HP I thought I would be earning a good monthly income. When I realized I was not, I was upset and disappointed.
    
    I worked on my hubs to make them better and stop placing ads or amazon capsules on them. I concentrated mostly on the writing and I am fine. I make a few cents per month but it doesn't affect me. My primary reason for staying is writing.
    
    If your primary reason for staying here is money making then when the money flow slows down or stops then you will certainly leave.

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    Urbane Chaosposted 8 years ago

    Either I'm delirious, or I just don't get it..
    
    Usually, I stay away from the forums because, well, for me, it's a time sucker.  I popped on last night just to see what everyone was up to, and to my surprise, a lot of the topics I saw were about the decline of HubPages and such.  I've been on here quite awhile and have no intention of leaving - overall, HubPages has treated me well. 
    
    I did notice a small decline in unique visits a few weeks ago, but I just figured that was because of all the bad weather here.  The last couple weeks my count has risen back up to where it normally is, despite some goofy furball panda beast.. I haven't published a lot lately, but that's due to my full time job, but I'm still here, hubbin' away..

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       Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

       urbane, we are similar, I am here but my full time job takes a lot of time...however, overall I am hanging in there to see what happens.

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          Urbane Chaosposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Exactly.. the last few months, I  feel like I've been hung upside down on the merry-go-round, contracts keep coming in and I can't keep up with them.  My visits have been down a bit here, but I don't know if that's because of a certain mischievous panda or not.
          
          Still, I'll keep goin' at it.. hopefully we all see a major increase in views and earnings.   I wish ya the best.. - Just remember to take time for yourself..

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    ponxposted 8 years ago

    I guess this is going to be a silly question after all the posts but what is the Panda issue and why will it reduce traffic to the hubs? Well I haven't been making a living out of HP but I am certainly planning to stick on since I really do like HP.

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       Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       I have just answered the same question from another Hubber a few posts above yours:
       
       http://hubpages.com/forum/post/1659775

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          ponxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks website examiner. Makes more sense now. However I don't see much of a change in the traffic towards my hubs. So does this mean that the PR of HP has fallen considerably with Google?

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             Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             You are welcome. From what I understand, rank is considerably down, and traffic overall has dropped well over 50%.

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                ponxposted 8 years agoin reply to this

                Well that is certainly bad news. Hope it can get fixed.

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    AEvansposted 8 years ago

    I have had other things going on, but I am still here. Have not left. I will write on here soon, just been busy.

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       livewithrichardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Same here.  I've been moving some of my content to my blogs and they are still out-performing what I have left here on HP.  I'll be moving the majority of what I have here elsewhere as well and only leaving what I consider evergreen content with the hopes that HP regains some authority.  However, I don't write for the praise, I write for money and I have to go where the money is. Right now that's on my own sites.

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          Website Examinerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

          How will that affect the review I wrote about you?

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             livewithrichardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

             It just so happens that the hub you reviewed is an evergreen hub and maintaining decent traffic so it will remain for now.  Plus, it doesn't quite fit into any of my other niche blogs so for now its home is here at HP.
             
             Most of what I have moved and am going to move has stopped earning revenue and traffic here but the funny thing is they are earning on brand new blogs with almost no backlinking.  That tells me something is seriously wrong here and nothing the HP team have done thus far has prevented a further decline.
             
             I have 20 or so url's saved that are evergreen topics. I'm moving content that I feel is not a good fit here at HP any longer and I feel this is win win for me and HP.

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                Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

                livewithrichard, thrilled you are still here too....but hopefully you will make more and more money

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       BRIAN SLATERposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Glad to see your still around, you have been greatly missed.

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          Ladybird33posted 8 years agoin reply to this

          Agreed, thrilled your still here!!!

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    Website Examinerposted 8 years ago

    Thanks for responding.

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    Betty Reidposted 8 years ago

    Wow, I've been busy with other things and didn't realize there were such big changes going on here!  I guess I'll have to pay more attention.

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    David 470posted 8 years ago

    I used to be a lot more active on here last holiday & earlier this year. I still published a few more hubs, but not as much as I would have if panda did not occur.
    
    Whatever happened to Pcunix? And some other hubbers I can not think of off the top of my head.
    
    I make about $50-60 a month, but really want to be making 200-400. If panda did not occur, this would be more possible. I could hypothesis that I would perhaps be making a few 1000 page impressions if the Google Alg did not occur.

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       Baileybearposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       last I heard Pcunix was fixing up his own sites, a major source of his income

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    cookingdivaposted 8 years ago

    I have been here about 6 months but I have seen many hubbers either leaving or being less active here.
    
    My traffic has reduced and a few hubs I have deleted myself after changes HP required did not work for hubs or me.
    
    I still believe in HP and I am going to try wait and see approach but I do miss hubpages and hubbers as it used to be.
    
    Pam

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    Bard of Elyposted 8 years ago

    HubPages for me remains the best site for making money at, not that I am much good at doing so, but I still get far more here than from any of the other sites people have recommended to me. My hubs still rank well in Google searches and I have got used to the new rules here. Hubpages is still my favourite site for publishing on.

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    recommend1posted 8 years ago

    I would agree with the B of E - other sites are good for other things, this is still a good site for articles and it is to be hoped that the low viewing etc will improve over time when HP stops helping Google to rock our boats (so to speak).

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