Subdomain Test Part One

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  1. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
    Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

    Today we are putting a few staff accounts on Subdomains.  This is a pretty major change to the site that we've been working hard to get out as fast as possible.  You can see an example at (In the next hour or two at) http://pauledmondson.hubpages.com

    Once we get data and work through bugs that turn up, we'll expand the test.  I have a list of people that volunteered to be part of the test.  Thank you!

    If you missed the original announcement, check out the blog and the forums to catch up.
    http://blog.hubpages.com/2011/06/prepar … ess-panda/
    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/77245

    A few things to be aware of as part of this test.  Facebook likes will get reset since the pages have a new URL.  Internal links in the text and link capsules to Hubs on subdomains haven't been updated, but they will redirect (We'll do this at a later stage).  Most programed links like related hubs, links from tag pages etc have been updated to point to subdomains. 

    If you see bugs related to subdomains, please post them here. I'm sure there are a few.

    I'll share with you the changes we see with this initial test.

    1. Marisa Wright profile image97
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      The "more" tag (above your Hubs on your profile page) doesn't work properly - it goes to "latest Hubs" for all Hubbers instead of yours.

      I get the same result if I try to subscribe to your RSS feeds - I get ALL latest Hubs instead of YOUR latest Hubs.

      1. Jason Menayan profile image61
        Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thank you for finding this bug, Marisa! I'll let engineering know.

      2. Peggy W profile image98
        Peggy Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Does this mean that the Facebook "likes" will be reset and added or will we lose them?

        1. Jason Menayan profile image61
          Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Peggy, unfortunately the count will be reset to 0 (although any existing likes on people's Facebook walls will be OK; they will redirect to the new, correct URL).

          This has to do with the fact that Facebook doesn't follow redirects and will treat the new Hub URL as a new page when counting shares and likes.

          1. Peggy W profile image98
            Peggy Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Would it be smart to repost the older hubs on Facebook again after the new URL takes effect?
            What about twitter?

            1. sudhakia profile image53
              sudhakiaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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        2. Bendo13 profile image81
          Bendo13posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Is it part of your testing to test and see if this change actually does what you want it to do?

          And by that I mean by making these changes the good hubs rise up in rankings because they're not limited by the bad writers on here.

          And the bad writers either stay put or drop even lower?

          Hopefully that is part of your testing, not just to see what it doesn't hurt our rankings because they are redirects... but that it will improve our rankings too.

          Otherwise it seems like a HUGE change to make without really knowing if it does what you want it to.

          1. Jason Menayan profile image61
            Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, absolutely - the goal is a significant increase in traffic/rankings. Otherwise, as you say, it's not worth the move.

            1. Bendo13 profile image81
              Bendo13posted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Good good!  I can't wait to hear about the results or to experience them myself!

              1. lrohner profile image80
                lrohnerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Wasn't that also the goal with changing affiliate marketing rules? And duplicate content? And topics we could write on? And the word-to-product ratio? And on and on ad nauseum? Sheesh.

                1. Garrett Mickley profile image79
                  Garrett Mickleyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Those are all things that would benefit Hubpages as a whole.

                  This is something that would benefit those writers who are good, and hurt those writers who are bad, without effecting the rest of the Hubpages users.

        3. K9keystrokes profile image93
          K9keystrokesposted 7 years ago

          Very excited to see the results. I have faith this will be just the thing HP has been hoping for. Good luck Paul--anything I can do to help, please just say the word.
          Keeping the faith!

          1. ProCW profile image81
            ProCWposted 7 years ago

            I'm in hopes that your first tests will run bug-free! smile

            Best wishes!

            1. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image97
              Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 years ago

              Very interesting.  I've no idea what any of that means - but I'm about to read the forum and blog postings.

              1. sudhakia profile image53
                sudhakiaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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                1. frogdropping profile image84
                  frogdroppingposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes sudhakia, you surely are. And here's hoping you get what you're looking for.

                  I hope you're not getting paid for your spam. You're not doing a great job.

                  1. wilderness profile image97
                    wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Wow, froggie!  s/he's already banned from HP.  And I never even got to see the post. sad

                    Something tells me it wasn't worth seeing, though.

                  2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image97
                    Wesman Todd Shawposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    I reported the profile as spam - did it disappear?  If so, that's AWESOME!

            2. Mikeydoes profile image74
              Mikeydoesposted 7 years ago

              Throw me in on the test if you could, I read the thread but didn't get a chance to volunteer when you put it out.

              Liking what I am hearing.

              Is hubpages adding the +1 feature?

              1. Aficionada profile image84
                Aficionadaposted 7 years ago

                Looks good, so far.

                1. LeanMan profile image87
                  LeanManposted 7 years ago

                  One glitch I have noticed - If I click the "more" button on your list of hubs from your profile page I do not get your hubs, I get taken back to the main site and a general list of hot/latest hubs.

                2. LeanMan profile image87
                  LeanManposted 7 years ago

                  RSS feed also not working - becomes a general HP feed.

                3. lakeerieartists profile image77
                  lakeerieartistsposted 7 years ago

                  What happens to incoming links to the original hub url?

                  1. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                    Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    They get a 301 redirect to the subdomain page. It's a permanent redirect so all the external links will still work.

                    1. LeanMan profile image87
                      LeanManposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                      None show when your do the various link commands in google/yahoo, will they show as links to the page over time?

                4. My Stories profile image59
                  My Storiesposted 7 years ago

                  sounds good.

                  1. Adventure Colorad profile image81
                    Adventure Coloradposted 7 years ago

                    I'm very interested to see how this is going to work out, if you still need volunteers, sign me up, I'll give it a shot.

                    1. PaulGoodman67 profile image97
                      PaulGoodman67posted 7 years ago

                      I am looking forward to it being rolled out to the guinea pigs like me!  :-)

                      1. Just Ask Susan profile image90
                        Just Ask Susanposted 7 years ago

                        Paul, Are you going to be emailing the people that volunteered to let them know that they are going to be part of this?

                        1. Peggy W profile image98
                          Peggy Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                          Good question.

                          1. Aficionada profile image84
                            Aficionadaposted 7 years agoin reply to this



                            In the thread where this was first announced, Paul E said Yes to that question:
                            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/77245?p … ost1673927

                        2. Neil Sperling profile image74
                          Neil Sperlingposted 7 years ago

                          The stats no longer show accurate hits --- in fact shows only a few.... is this a problem that is being fixed - or is it a change to Hub Stats.

                          I asked the question here

                          http://hubpages.com/question/127372/wha … hubs-stats

                          few follow so far and no answer

                          1. Vinodkpillai profile image80
                            Vinodkpillaiposted 7 years ago

                            Paul, if you are still looking for volunteers -  I am interested.

                          2. simeonvisser profile image83
                            simeonvisserposted 7 years ago

                            I am very excited about this change. It's a good effort to distinguish between authors and hopefully to improve our rankings, if we write well.

                          3. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                            Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

                            On subdomains we will lose the count of any existing "likes" from facebook as a result of the change.

                            The good news is the initial data looks promising, but too soon to tell.

                            1. K9keystrokes profile image93
                              K9keystrokesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Initial data is generally a strong indicator that things are headed in the right direction; still keeping the faith. Thanks for keeping us posted Paul!

                              1. Peggy W profile image98
                                Peggy Wposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                I agree!  Appreciate your efforts!

                          4. soni2006 profile image78
                            soni2006posted 7 years ago

                            Hubpages can use my account for the new subdomain test. I have already opted to volunteer for this test in the hubpages blog. I hope all works well. I am pretty confident about Hubpages getting massive traffic again with initiation of subdomains. Best of luck to all of you.

                          5. Entrepreneur2.0 profile image59
                            Entrepreneur2.0posted 7 years ago

                            I think i know why we are not ranking so well. because when people on the internet are using content generators they use hubpages as its main tool of resources, i know this because when i created my first ever hub i got over 200k in links in minutes which i never did so its dragging us down because of the NOFOLLOW syndrome we have on our hubs. do a test run on your subdomain with and see if i am right ps also look at the ancour text people are using.

                            use this website to show you what i mean. http://www.bluebacklinks.com

                            1. earner profile image87
                              earnerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Ha ha ha ... I just used that on one of my domains and discovered somebody's writing quite OK stuff and saying they own my domain.  Oops, they made a typo!  But I've got loads of backlinks from that smile

                              shhhhh

                            2. wilderness profile image97
                              wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              As near as I can tell, that site gives the backlinks to HubPages, not to individual hubs.  All the links I found were to HubPages, with none to my own hubs.

                              No wonder you found so many!

                          6. soni2006 profile image78
                            soni2006posted 7 years ago

                            Hello Paul, I have checked your old profile link and a few hub links and all are redirecting well to the new subdomain. That's really great on your part. You people are working so hard.

                            Plus one more thing. pauledmondson.hubpages.com profile has also been indexed in the search engines within a few hours of starting the test. Good job.

                          7. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                            Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

                            Paul Deeds and I will discuss further the next phase Wednesday. I've looked at the accounts that volunteered. Thank you! We know the type of accounts we want to test. I'll confirm over email with those folks in the coming days.

                          8. Randy Godwin profile image93
                            Randy Godwinposted 7 years ago

                            I wonder why HP doesn't just contact those with the "type of accounts" they are looking for?

                            1. CASE1WORKER profile image64
                              CASE1WORKERposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              rather a volunteer than a pressed man?

                              1. Randy Godwin profile image93
                                Randy Godwinposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                It would help to understand the "type" of hubs desired for the test before volunteering hubs of the wrong type, I would think! smile

                              2. wilderness profile image97
                                wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                I would imagine that if I were impressed into a test that caused the death of 1/2 my traffic I just might get a wee bit irritated. lol

                                1. PaulGoodman67 profile image97
                                  PaulGoodman67posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                  @Randy Think about it.  HP need to test a wide range of scenarios.  It's okay writing to the high performers, but what would the other emails look like?   "We've got plenty of hubbers with well-written high performing hubs, but we also need to test some hubbers with badly written hubs that perform poorly and we wondered if you'd consider volunteering?"  It's not going to work, is it?  ;-)

                                  1. wilderness profile image97
                                    wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    Is that what that email was about?  I thought it was a jealous hubber! lol

                                    1. PaulGoodman67 profile image97
                                      PaulGoodman67posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                      I would get the email directed at "mediocre" hubbers, methinks!  ;-)

                          9. mailmohit975 profile image59
                            mailmohit975posted 7 years ago

                            looking good initially

                          10. IzzyM profile image88
                            IzzyMposted 7 years ago

                            Would I be right in thinking that this change will open up to each and every one of us every hub url going? Like if I wanted to write a hub called Make Money Online and couldn't use the URL because it belonged to someone else, I can now? Well not now, but in future when the change is rolled out.

                          11. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                            Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

                            @IzzyM That's a possibility.  It may not happen at the beginning, but it's something that may open up in the future.

                            1. Garrett Mickley profile image79
                              Garrett Mickleyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              I would hope this is a possibility.

                              1. Glenn Stok profile image99
                                Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                It seems correct that it can be done since the entire URL would be unique. But thinking this through more carefully, we have to ask, what happens to the redirect?  That would have two Hubs with the same URL. However, I don't see this becoming an issue if new Hubs do not have a 301 redirect.  There would be no need to redirect new Hubs, only Hubs existing prior to moving someone into their own subdomain would need to be redirected.  But there might be other issues with the conversion that I may have missed. Whatever it is, Paul is doing a great job at keeping on top of things.

                          12. Entrepreneur2.0 profile image59
                            Entrepreneur2.0posted 7 years ago

                            could we have the subdomain as a regenerated code so that we could manage all our hubs or wil that still not work

                          13. Glenn Stok profile image99
                            Glenn Stokposted 7 years ago

                            Paul, how are user names that have spaces handled? For example, in my case I have a space between my first and last name. The present URL uses a plus sign (+) instead of the space. Will that work for subdomains too? If not, I have no problem with eliminating the space, just like you do with your username. As a matter of fact I think I prefer that. The + sign looks strange at the left side of a URL.

                            1. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                              Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              The tentative plan is to let people select a subdomain independent of their username, so you shouldn't have to worry about a username with a space in it.

                              1. Glenn Stok profile image99
                                Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                Thanks Paul. That sounds great!  I tested the redirect on one of your hubs the old way, and it properly returned a 301 status. You guys are doing really well. Feel free to include me as a volunteer.

                          14. Whitney05 profile image82
                            Whitney05posted 7 years ago

                            Um... what's the point to the change?

                            This will cause traffic issues for links on outside sources, at least until you get the links redirected. I myself, will not be changing the many links I've placed elsewhere on my blogs.

                            This is going to make some url's very long, as there are so many people who do not alter the hub url to vary from the title. I, myself, used to to this. I would rather not a long drawn out URL.

                            Can we opt out?

                            1. Glenn Stok profile image99
                              Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Whitney, you will not need to change links to your Hubs. The 301 redirect will take care of that. It is done at the same time as the conversion. Try it with Paul's Hubs and you'll see. I sometimes replace pages on my own business site with related pages and I use the 301 redirect so that any existing back links don't get broken. That works fine.

                              1. K9keystrokes profile image93
                                K9keystrokesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                This is really good to know Glenn, thanks for sharing your know-how!

                          15. acewebdesign profile image60
                            acewebdesignposted 7 years ago

                            Sounds like a good option, but not sure if it will suit eveyone though

                          16. prettydarkhorse profile image63
                            prettydarkhorseposted 7 years ago

                            I thought the "rel-author tag" is enough already. I hope the initial tests will be overall positive. I am a little bit chary about losing some inclusive and comprehensive benefits (linking) we get from HubPages about this subdomain thing by author.

                          17. njmanura profile image92
                            njmanuraposted 7 years ago

                            All the stats in my hubs state from hubpages. Infact, i get many google hits  before this change. The real problem is my hpad cpm drops to around 1. It may be due to HPADS detect even the high quality google traffic as hubpages traffic due to redirects. I am confused and turned off hubpages ad programm due to this.

                            1. janderson99 profile image59
                              janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Apologies for dual submission but my suggestion is relevant here as well.

                              My suggestion is that articles submitted to HP become an 'internal only' by default [using a nofollow tag or similar].
                              If an author wants their article out there on the www for Google to index they would need to request a review to get it approved.
                              Google will only see the approved (do follow) articles and so this will reduce the Panda penalty.
                              HP can remain a 'writers' community with a policy of allowing everyone to submit articles.
                              Users of the site will still be able to see all the articles, search for them etc. from the HP home page.
                              This cuts down the work load for approvals - much could be done electronically with two tools - one for basic submission and one for wider www  index submission. A system of approved authors could also cut down the work load - with penalties for junk.
                              This would lift the Google rating for the entire site which will benefit everyone.
                              It could be done relatively quickly by making every article 'internal only' except for 'approved authors' and requesting authors to seek approval for the articles they wanted indexed on the www.
                              I would suggest that many HP authors may be quite happy to have some or all of their articles as 'internal only'. It provides a learning environment for authors.

                              The sub-domain idea for authors is a good one, but its a lot of work and it still leaves the 'home' site with a poor Google rating after Panda penalties (which probably affects advertising etc.). I suspect that the 'poor' rating for the HP home page and URL will still pull down the rating of the sub-domains.

                              1. Entrepreneur2.0 profile image59
                                Entrepreneur2.0posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                It costs more so it possibly wont happen

                              2. janderson99 profile image59
                                janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                Most of the work could be covered by software and by approving authors. Authors would have to apply for approval to be indexed and would know what was required - this would cut down the work.
                                Sorry the tag is NOINDEX
                                Pages with this tag could still make money and have HP ads and adsense. While HP authors are not allowed to click on ads, non-authors can. While the pages would only be found indirectly, not through search engines, they would have the same viewing status as any other page. If the page was popular it would be read and earn money - but much less than an indexed page. Because of the downgrade to rank after Panda many of the hits and payments may come from this indirect source now for many authors. Links to the page would still work, but they would not boost ranking because the page is not indexed.

                                1. Marisa Wright profile image97
                                  Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                  As I said on another thread, if approving an author is going to be a big part of the process, why not simply require approval when an author joins, as is the case at Infobarrel?  If an author had to submit their first few articles for manual approval, that would knock out all the automated spammers and discouraged other spammers.  Plus it would catch all those who misunderstand what HP is about.

                                  Given that HubPages' existing filters can't identify junk, I'm still wondering how you propose they will identify which pages need to be de-indexed.

                                  1. janderson99 profile image59
                                    janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    replied in other thread

                            2. Aficionada profile image84
                              Aficionadaposted 7 years agoin reply to this



                              This was a reporting bug, not an actual change in traffic.  The bug has been squashed now, hooray.

                          18. Entrepreneur2.0 profile image59
                            Entrepreneur2.0posted 7 years ago

                            hubpages better quash all their rubbish content and very soon or else panda is going to kick us to the floor, matt cutts even said that one piece of bad content can bring down the whole website.

                            1. janderson99 profile image59
                              janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Here' s a radical suggestion.
                              Given that ICAN is going to allow all sorts of extensions e.g. 
                              .apple
                              .ipad
                              .ibm
                              etc.

                              Why doesn't HP buy the rights to

                              .hubs

                              Then every author could have their own domain name!!

                              1. Pcunix profile image91
                                Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                That's a big purchase, but somebody should do it...

                                1. Shadesbreath profile image82
                                  Shadesbreathposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                  Isn't it like $185,000?

                                  1. earnestshub profile image87
                                    earnestshubposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    That would not seem like a very large purchase if it saved hubpage's neck.

                                  2. Pcunix profile image91
                                    Pcunixposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    Yeah, and I suppose if you divide that by the number of hubbers it isn't all that much..

                                    1. earnestshub profile image87
                                      earnestshubposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                      We could probably scrape that much up amongst ourselves. smile

                                      An interesting thought process may emerge from talking about this. smile

                              2. Glenn Stok profile image99
                                Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                That's not even necessary. Dividing us up by subdomain will be fine as HP is already testing with staff. Google treats each subdomain as individual without combining rank.

                                1. janderson99 profile image59
                                  janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                  I don't know much about this but there are obvious 'loss of link juice issues' with sub-domains + others such as if the sub-domain get banned the whole URL gets banned  ++++

                                  to quote from 

                                  http://www.searchenginejournal.com/subd … z1QuRI6rjN

                                  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  With a subdomain, the forum or blog will be listed as a separate entity in the Google search results, which is good for owning the results and one’s reputation management. However, Google and other engines will generally not list more than two of these subdomains in the search results, unless those subdomains can prove to Google that they are independent and relevant entities.

                                  I would like to reference Vanessa Fox, an ex-Googler and contributor to Search Engine Land :

                                      Google is no longer treating subdomains (blog.widgets.com versus widgets.com) independently, instead attaching some association between them. The ranking algorithms have been tweaked so that pages from multiple subdomains have a much higher relevance bar to clear in order to be shown.

                                      It’s not that the “two page limit” now means from any domain and its associated subdomains in total. It’s simply a bit harder than it used to be for multiple subdomains to rank in a set of 10 results. If multiple subdomains are highly relevant for a query, it’s still possible for all of them to rank well.

                                  Home Depot is one site which has cleared the relevancy bar at Google with subdomains at HomeDepot.com that are actually marketed as individual sites. Take careers.homedepot.com and look into its backlinks, even if this subdomain was on a whole different domain, like HomeDepotJobs.com, it would probably rank just as highly.
                                  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                          19. SimeyC profile image95
                            SimeyCposted 7 years ago

                            Major problem with the redirecting - not able to view any of my Hubs - please fix ASAP!!!!

                          20. Glamorously Jacob profile image60
                            Glamorously Jacobposted 7 years ago

                            What if HubPages were to take the wordpress.com approach, where you could use your own domain name, instead of using subdomains? Would that improve rankings?

                            I want the flexibility of using my own domain, but with all the wonderful publishing features of the hubpages platform.

                            jacob

                            1. celebritie profile image79
                              celebritieposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              That is a cool idea Jacob, I like it.

                          21. sunforged profile image72
                            sunforgedposted 7 years ago

                            On Wednesday HubPages will begin a full roll out of subdomains for each of its authors ?

                            http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2011/07/13/ … %E2%80%9D/

                            1. EmpressFelicity profile image71
                              EmpressFelicityposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Nice of them to tell us first, wasn't it :snort:

                              1. Glenn Stok profile image99
                                Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                No it wasn't short notice at all. Paul announced the test two weeks ago. You should be happy it's finally being rolled out to the rest of us. You have a score of 96 when I looked ... so you are one to benefit getting your well-deserved traffic back after Google registers all the changes to subdomains. Be patient, it may not happen overnight. But I am sure it will be worth it.

                                1. EmpressFelicity profile image71
                                  EmpressFelicityposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                  He announced the *test*, yes. The WSJ piece was an announcement of a full roll-out. I agree with SF and others - the test hasn't had time to "mature" yet.  Don't all web pages get an initial boost in the SERPS and then experience a die-back? It could be that the good results in the test were down to the boost, and that once the boost is over, they will languish in the doldrums - possibly for even longer than they would have done had they remained as part of HP's main domain.

                                  The fact that people only get to hear about it second hand or via Facebook is rather disturbing. It's almost as though we're being told that we have to have a Facebook account in order to have even a chance of being kept in the loop.

                                  Just what is it about HubPages and Facebook? They seem to be best mates these days.

                            2. lakeerieartists profile image77
                              lakeerieartistsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Thanks for posting this.  As usual, the writers are the last to know.

                          22. TamCor profile image80
                            TamCorposted 7 years ago

                            I just saw the link on my Facebook page, and read it...

                            Wonder when we'll hear more?

                          23. Aficionada profile image84
                            Aficionadaposted 7 years ago

                            Don't all journalists love a scoop?

                          24. theherbivorehippi profile image80
                            theherbivorehippiposted 7 years ago

                            Assuming this means that the couple of hubs that I have that have thousands of Facebook Likes on them will reset the counter at zero then as per mentioned? I am not thrilled about this...I assumed we would be given an option and I would like to see evidence that this is going to indeed be beneficial to ALL of us.

                            I am not prepared to give up the Adsense income that I make on my main profile on the basis of a "test" that hasn't even had time to age yet. My income has NOT been affected by Panda..sorry but it hasn't and I am happy with the way things are. I would have expected that we would receive further detailed information about this, test results, etc., before we are all just changed over. Not happy to hear about this second hand. I'm becoming more and more unhappy with the distance of the staff. This is very frustrating. The last thing I would expect is to hear about something that affects my income on effing Facebook of all places.

                            I'm not saying that this isn't a good move, I'm just saying that making a change like this without providing evidence is not appreciated. Maybe it is time to move on....

                          25. brandonhart100 profile image86
                            brandonhart100posted 7 years ago

                            I must admit I'm a little worried that I am hearing this second hand?

                            1. janderson99 profile image59
                              janderson99posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Bring it On! Nothing else has worked.

                          26. psycheskinner profile image83
                            psycheskinnerposted 7 years ago

                            I think the point is that advance warning would be nice, especially if this is going to change all urls and break all incoming links?  That could, at least short term, make things even worse.

                          27. sunforged profile image72
                            sunforgedposted 7 years ago

                            links will be 301'd- I think thats been clear since minute 1 - its the first question asked (over and over again)

                            I was thinking along LEA's line - a thanks for telling us, type of thing.

                            1. wilderness profile image97
                              wildernessposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              I doubt anything will happen today (or anytime in the near future), regardless of what the article says.  My understanding is that we will have an opportunity to choose a name for "our" subdomain, but HP has not requested one from me at least.

                              1. sunforged profile image72
                                sunforgedposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                Simone made a comment in the "awesome.hubpages" thread about a decision to use usernames?

                                I just glanced at it .. but thats the last Ive seen on the topic until this WSJ article.

                                Its odd using "blogger" as a comparison - as on blogger you have almost full control and get 100% of your advertising.

                                If HP goes a forced subdomain route ... we will be giving up 40% just to use their limited publishing platform .. Im curious as to how this will pan out for new accounts. Does HP have the juice to push a new subdomain farther up the SERP's then a new self hosted or blogger blog that would be more profitable in income opportunities?

                              2. Glenn Stok profile image99
                                Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                A couple of weeks ago I posted that question and Paul said "The tentative plan is to let people select a subdomain independent of their username..."

                                I hope to get that request soon.

                          28. psycheskinner profile image83
                            psycheskinnerposted 7 years ago

                            301ing Hubpages en masse could in itself cause a massive drop in page rank. That is one reason why I had assumed it would be staged.

                          29. psycheskinner profile image83
                            psycheskinnerposted 7 years ago

                            Or... they will just use your username.

                            1. Glenn Stok profile image99
                              Glenn Stokposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Some usernames may not work as subdomain names. See my post about that.

                          30. sunforged profile image72
                            sunforgedposted 7 years ago
                          31. Paul Edmondson profile imageSTAFF
                            Paul Edmondsonposted 7 years ago

                            I've started a new thread about the next steps with subdomains.

                            http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/78912

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