OH my! Im almost a prodigy in less than 10 days!

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   Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

   OH my! Im almost a prodigy in less than 10 days! I mean i never ever saw it coming thats amazing! i just went up 11 hubscores in the space of 12 hours!
   
   have you seen my hubs?
   
   Are you a prodigy?

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      lavender3957posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      welcome, I am new and still trying to figure all of this out. Good luck

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, this is a question, but it is also self promotion.
      This question was asked, to cover up your first question.

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   
   
   Oh please....prodigy, NOT!
   
   However, welcome to Hubpages and the forums.

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   Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

   cheers, well i did say almost, what did you think of my hubs?

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      Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I didn't bother to look, because self promotion isn't allowed in the forums, regardless of whether or not, you posted links to your hubs.
      
      The forums are used for interaction, not promotion.

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   Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

   questions are interactions, and so i was asking an opinion

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   I had a look at your profile and noticed about six spelling mistakes, typos or grammatical errors.  Didn't read any further.
   
   On the plus side that means I didn't flag anything.
   
   Welcome to HP!  Most people aren't so nitpicky.

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      Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      which hub(s) did you see the mistakes?

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         Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Here's your profile entry...
         
         Im from Northern Ireland and im british not irish, ignorance just annoys me. Im thought provoking, helpful and i have a keen eye for entrepanureal ideas all the time.
         
         Hopefully i can share my thoughs and ideas with you and see if you like them or not. Just say it yeh or neh lol.
         
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         Here's a reworking...
         
         I'm from Northern Ireland and I'm British not Irish, ignorance just annoys me. I'm thought provoking, helpful and I have a keen eye for entrepreneuriel ideas all the time.
         
         Hopefully I can share my thoughts and ideas with you and see if you like them or not. Just say it yeh or neh lol.
         
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         Mainly capitalisation of "i", British and Irish.  Plus entrepreneurial - which I can't spell either.  That's why we use spell checkers.
         
         It may be OK for Facebook, whatever, and it may be OK for the internet - but here's one potential reader who didn't bother looking further.

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            northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            (Agrees with Mark) Hubbers are writers, and don't like other people cutting corners we strictly adhere to. and your hubs... (shudder)

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               Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               "shudder" says it all.

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                  IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  This.

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   simeonvisserposted 12 years ago

   Your personal HubScore goes up easily. Most people who write some hubs and don't make too obvious mistakes end up with 75+. But keep going, you're heading the right direction

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   Here's a little more - I checked your Twitter Hub.  Now it may be that a lot of people don't care about spelling or punctuation - but some do.  They won't bother reading.  If you can afford to lose them, fine.  I doubt if anyone checks out of a Hub however if it does have correct spelling.
   
   "were as here" - should be "whereas here"
   
   You swap between twitter and Twitter.  It can't be both.  Choose one.  Choose Twitter.
   
   "Well its simple" - should be "Well it's simple" or "Well it is simple"
   
   I know you're thinking this is a bit picky.  Actually your hub reads OK, and is interesting.  If you type your words into a Word document first and look at the spell checking and grammatical suggestions - your writing would look more professional.
   
   btw - I'm trying to be helpful.  Don't normally bother.

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      Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I really admire the effort you put into this, under your own duress, as you described. Entrepreneur2.0 got enormously good advice from you, and then other Hubbers stepped in to undermine your words. Not that you are possessive about your words, I know you are not, but all the good you did got subverted by another saying they like his style, attitude, and originality, bypassing the flaws that keep him from being an authoritative writer.
      
      Well, maybe that's the game of Internet writing...to hell with quality...let's just have attitude.
      
      I've scanned only one of Entrepreneur2.0's Hubs, and it didn't keep my interest for 10 seconds...Why? It's grammar is faulty, making me work too hard to get the point.
      
      Good for you for stepping up there, Mark.
      
      28 hours later, the profile still reads, "Im from Northern Ireland and im British not Irish, ignorance just annoys me."
      
      Ignorance annoys me too.
      
      @Cags, about the self-promotion... That's all this is. (Can't wait to be banned...it's never happened, but if this does it, I'll be in very good company.)

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         Mrvoodooposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Personally I'd much rather read the words of somebody who's an interesting writer, but who's grammar is lacking.  Than the words of somebody who is incredibly dull, but who manages to place every punctuation mark perfectly.
         
         I guess we all 'shudder' at different things.  Some of us at poor grammar, and some of us at the overly-critical diatribes of self-righteous grammar Nazi types.

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            Mark Ewbieposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I hope I did my best to come across as helpful rather than a Nazi.  The guy did ask for attention.
            
            I agree about the interesting bit, very important.  But in particular a profile that has so many basic mistakes is going to lose rather than attract interest.
            
            If it was written in 'street' style - then that's another matter.
            
            FWIW - I did find his stuff interesting enough to make a comment.  He appears to be actually writing - a rarity on here, and about different stuff.  I wouldn't have bothered otherwise.
            
            For the record though.  Never again.

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               Mrvoodooposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               You were helpful.  Others weren't.  I found all the 'shudders' unnecessary.
               
               As with your post, it's possible to be critical in a constructive way, rather than just making others feel like idiots.

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   Mark Ewbieposted 12 years ago

   Actually one more thing to add.  It is a real pleasure to see someone new who actually writes their stuff, rather than copying or spinning other people's.
   
   Good luck.

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      Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      well i really take my time, there maybe mistakes because of scribe seo's work in copying

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      northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      it is original...

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   Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

   also when i earn the money i will invest in grammerly

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      northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      huh?

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         Paradise7posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's what I was thinking, a prodigy that can't punctuate...what the H is "grammerly"?  And I wouldn't wait to earn money to invest in grammar lessons, if I were you, Entrepreneur.  You'd be waiting a LONG time.
         
         How mean is this?

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            northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It's not mean if it's true.  Then it's called constructive criticism.

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               Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               it's very constructive then.

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                  Travis_S_Musicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Very much agreed. Everyone makes mistakes, but when the mistakes are that obvious, they have to learn some how. Being nice and friendly doesn't always cut it. Of course, don't be down right rude. Just point out the horribly obvious mistakes. Eventually he'll get there. Maybe.

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    Greg Sageposted 12 years ago

    This sort of shameless self promotion should not be tolerated.
    
    I wrote a hub about it if anyone's interested.

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       Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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       drej2522posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       haha...yesssss (Emperor's voice from the one and only trilogy.)

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       Paradise7posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       

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    Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

    its a piece of online software that can tell your mistakes upto 98% of the time and checks if you copied from a book or PR's.
    
    Google it! students use it to. PS i think it only uses american english, so check it out

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       Motown2Chitownposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       From what I've read here so far, it's quite apparent that you need it.  Capitalization and punctuation are things that some of us here are sticklers for.  It's part and parcel of the whole "writer" gig.  You may be a genius entrepeneur, and your content may be brilliant, but when you're writing, you need to pay attention to mechanics as well.  It shows disrespect to your readers when you're sloppy about such things. 
       
       

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    R.S. Hutchinsonposted 12 years ago

    I think I got you beat... 10 days in and my score is higher (without the self promotion) and I am up to 20 cents. But who's counting?
    Please dont look at my hubs, else you might feel a little embarrassed when comparing yours to mine. What do you think? Am I right?

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       northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       :0 much better for a newbie!!

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          R.S. Hutchinsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks.

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             northweststarrposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             Be following ya!

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       Travis_S_Musicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Lol. I love all the self promotion going on here.

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    Urbane Chaosposted 12 years ago

    Didn't Prodigy go out of business?

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    Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

    fair play to you

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    SunSevenposted 12 years ago

    Frankly, I like his Style.
    And attitude too.
    Its original.

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       Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       @SunSeven, to which person are you referring to?

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    Rosie2010posted 12 years ago

    Welcome to Hubpages and the forums!  You are way ahead of me.  When I joined HP seven months ago, I didn't even know about the forums.  There are quite a few hubbers here from both England and Ireland.  If you love to write, HP is a really good site.  But you must proofread your hubs, use the speller although it doesn't catch grammar mistakes, it helps with spelling mistakes.  Best wishes here in Hubpages.  You're doing good.. self promoting.  Now we know who you are and where you live.  Be afraid, be very very afraid. lol just kiddin'

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    Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

    lol thanks rosie

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       Rosie2010posted 12 years agoin reply to this

       you're welcome Entre

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    Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

    well I have been doing other things. Like getting backlinks and I'm trying to get back into doing better English. So I do appreciate your criticism, if i had the money i would go and do classes on grammar and spelling as well as writing classes, i know i don't have the "pose" to generate interest, guess what its my style and i dont criticise yours. Although my grammar maybe be shoddy, i haven't had to really use it and that is why i am trying to get back into the fold with it.  P.s I know you don't like cripples with bad grammar but get used to it.

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       myi4uposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I thought you studied grammar when you were young? I don't mean to criticise but I don't expect someone, who has English as the main language, to have such poor grammar and spelling.

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       Urbane Chaosposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Bro, for only having five hubs, you're not doing too bad at all.  Your hubs are decently laid out, so it looks like you have a pretty good handle on the software..  Just learn all you can about capsule placement and SEO, and you'll be good to go..
       
       I wouldn't worry so much about grammar and spelling - there are ways around that.  For me, I always write the article in Word first.  That tends to catch 99% of whatever grammar and spelling problems you'll have.  There's no reason to go out and spend a ton of money on classes - the more you write, the better you'll get.
       
       Still, there are hundreds of books about writing, grammar, and spelling.  One of the best books you can get is "The Elements of Style", by Strunk and White.  Also, as far as grammar and spelling, I constantly find myself referring back to Simon and Schuster's book, "Handbook for Writers".  Both can be found at the library.
       
       Everyone has their own style, but style doesn't have anything to do with proper grammar and correct spelling.   Style is how you use the language to make a point. 
       
       I think you're doing alright so far.. just keep with it and you'll be good.
       
       Welcome to HP!

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    Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

    It is in your best interest to improve your grammar if you want people to take you seriously. Writing is a skill like any other and you really should take the advice you have been given in this thread.
    
    You will not earn money if people try to get away from your hubs as quickly as they can. You have to write something that will interest others. People's opinions on the thread do not matter but you have to ask yourself "why would someone read my hubs?".

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    SunSevenposted 12 years ago

    Sometimes I make smelling pistakes deliberately. You can find out why, if we still have had those great hubbers who're no longer active here.

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       Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       "Know the rules before you break them." And you do know them, SS.

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          SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Can I bend it, perhaps?
          But, why are you after me?

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             Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

             SS, I'm not after you, except that you may come first while I follow second in this thread. All I'm saying is that you can break, or bend, the rules because you've mastered them to a point where breaking them may be a creative rather than a pointless or destructive act.

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                SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                Thank You ST, You are the BEST.
                
                I didn't know that you were a stickler for ever changing rules.
                
                Peace.

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                   Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                   I am a stickler for following the rules, but also for stepping outside the rules after you master them, that being the time when you can use this infraction to encourage insight.

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    Traqqerposted 12 years ago

    Not with those shades or haircut.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 12 years ago

    Writing is the only profession where people applaud you for doing it badly.

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       SunSevenposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       I wonder how and why those sms sites do so well.

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       R.S. Hutchinsonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       and weathermen?

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          Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

          

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       Mrvoodooposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       True.  But I should imagine that in most cases, writing on Hubpages is more of a hobby, than a chosen profession.

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    Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years ago

    well its part my generation and part of UK culture as well as american so to people my own age i'm just more grown up than they are but have the same problem with English. When i was young i couldn't understand it and i am only good to about a level 5 writing grade and i bet most of you are about a 7 or 8, if you want me to explain what level you are at ill write a damm hub if i have to. P.s. I hate reading dry asbestos writing, as you may have a flaw and so have I except it wouldn't take much learning to get over it again, where as you may need a sabbatical to change your dry wine of a tone.

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       mskillsposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       While I know you're directing this comment at  someone else, I'll take you up on your offer to hub about writing levels.  My interest level is certainly piqued, at any rate. 
       
       Welcome to HubPages, by the way.

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          Entrepreneur2.0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you Mskills

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       Travis_S_Musicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, I would also love to hear about this writing level system. Go for it! I find it kind of funny, though, how a lot of people from the UK area like to talk down about Americans, and say they are much smarter than we are. And here is direct proof they are no better than us. (:

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       MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

       Very few of us are dry writers.  Although most of us change our tones/language depending on our intended audience.  I.E. if I wrote an article about a popular game show, it would sound quite different than if I wrote one on Breast Cancer. (Neither are in my hubs, so don't look)
       
       The grammar thing is important though.  No one expects anyone to be perfect.  Hell, I majored in English and I still have red lines all over the place after I've finished an article.  I just pay attention to them and fix them...
       
       Two Free Checkers:  http://www.spellchecker.net/grammar/ (by grammarly) and http://www.paperrater.com/ (you are going to want to set paper type as speech/presentation or you will have to cite sources...
       
       Just to throw it in:  http://www.plagiarismdetect.com/demo-check.html  It's a plagerism detector that I always use with my paid articles just in case a sentence or phrase from research sticks in my head and accidentally sneaks its way into my writing. 
       
       I generally run all of my writing for hire through all three and many of my hubs/other web 2.0 writing through the first two.  It takes about 5 minutes total per article and fixes 90 percent of what my word processing software and HP's spell check misses.  They are all cut/paste input then cut/paste output programs.

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