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   KeithTaxposted 12 years ago

   My 16 year old daughter wantes to write artistic hubs (sketching, painting, etc.) The TOS do not allow minors to join HP. Can I open a separate account in my name, have my daughter write for me, and use my HP ads account, Google, etc. without violating TOS? I intend to pay her what is earned on her writing.

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      Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Does she know about this site?
      
      http://www.teenink.com/

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   BeatsMeposted 12 years ago

   I think it should be okay. Just be aware that you are responsible for your account.

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      privateye2500posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Well that is just down right silly that a 16 year old cannot write a hub!
      
      Sheesh

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         privateye2500posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Silly as in not allowed - whatever.  There are so many rules no who can keep up?

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            relacheposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Apparently only people who can't be bothered to read the legal agreements they are entering into with various companies.

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            Jerrico Usherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            They can write a hub they just cant own an account or get paid (directly) for the ads. It's the advertising that makes the rule not the hub build process etc... That, is based on Google and other ads they run including amazon/ebay widgets- it's more about a binding contract (liability) than anything else.

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         Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, silly things like tax issues and Adsense's rules...

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   paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago

   One must be 18 to enter a legally binding contract. So that's probably why HP, adsense, etc. have that rule.
   
   As to the OP's question, it seems to me that:
   
   A. You can have anyone you want write your hubs.
   B. You can do whatever you want with your money.
   
   Then again, I could be wrong.

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      privateye2500posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly paradigm  :}
      
      And Gee relache - love to know the % of peeps who Do actually Read all the TOS's and LA's and all the fine print...golly gee - think any art would ever get published?
      
      I think not.

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         QuestionMasterposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Well in that case you're still lucky to have your accounts.
         
         Adsense ToS, in particular, is quite important.
         
         People who don't read it often find they lose their accounts because of simple things like putting adverts on inappropriate content (drugs, gambling, adult, sensitive topics etc are not allowed), using traffic exchanges, encouraging people to click on their adverts and other issues.
         
         And, unfortunately, Adsense accounts are one of the hardest to get back if you lose. In fact, if you have actually broken their rules, you'll probably never see your Adsense account again.
         
         It's on your own head if you choose not to read the rules and then get banned because of it.

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   Reality Bytesposted 12 years ago

   I would think you can publish anything you want as long as you hold the rights to the content.
   
   It would be you publishing it not your daughter.
   
   Where the earnings go is your business only.
   
   
   That is just my opinion!

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      KeithTaxposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I think you are right. The TOS says an account holder must be 18 or older (old enough to sign a binding contract.) There is nothing forbidding me from publishing my daughter's work as far as I know, but was hoping HP staff would provide guidance.

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   Polly Cposted 12 years ago

   I published something my son wrote when he was only ten, but I put it on my own account and he doesn't even know! It's a poem and currently getting up to 20 google searches a day, which I think is pretty good for a poem.
   
   I did make it clear, however, that it was written by a child, although I did not publish his name as he would kill me!

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      wildernessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Oh tell him, Polly!  Then take him to google analytics where they have the world map showing where views are coming from.  Let him see he has readers from all over the world.
      
      Bet he'd love it!

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         Polly Cposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Yes, I should tell him, I know. He doesn't have a very high opinion of his writing skills - I'm not sure why as he does write some really descriptive and genius pieces sometimes. But, he is a typical boy who often just gets the task over with as quickly as possible. Also, he is a bit of a talker, so his school work so often ends abruptly when he runs out of time! But, I think, the worst thing is that a while back he got a below average score on his mock Sats (ridiculous, pointless tests we have in England, especially the mocks) and this 'label' of not being good at writing seems to have stuck. It's so untrue as he has come on in leaps and bounds since then and comes out with some very original lines, but in his head he is stuck with this feeling. So, you're right, he should definitely know and it will hopefully boost his confidence as well. Though he may still kill me!

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   Jerrico Usherposted 12 years ago

   Your an account holder over 18 so technically you can post her stuff to YOUR account, the thing is as an account holder your responsible for the content you write/post and for adhering it to the rules- but there is nothing stating YOU have to write or build the post- just that you have to take responsibility for it.
   
   An example of this is you have 100 hubs content outsourced to a ghostwriter, you can post it and claim it as your own (many do this actually) but because your 18 and responsible your liable for the post. In that I don't think, so long as you follow the TOS rules it's not where the content comes from but that it adheres to the rules.
   
   If your kid wrote a great essay and it's not published anywhere on the web, you could technically post it, even say your kid wrote this- the issue is with the account ownership not specifically the content- they want to make sure they can hold you accountable for your content/posting specifically.
   
   By proxy of your account your daughter could legitimately create content but it is you that has to (technically) post it after making sure it follows the rules- I would, if I were you, make sure you adhere to this concept- or let her  play within but make sure she doesn't post anything you haven't checked first.
   
   Also realize that you have to have actual content in your published hubs not just art work with a few scribbles of what it is, i.e. a paragraph per picture etc...
   
   Good Luck!

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      Jerrico Usherposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I replied from the feed, sorry didn't see my answer was already here (didn't mean to redundantize you)... I do want to add one thing, you as a legitimate author can add more than one account to your hub account ownership- but don't test the team by using your daughters real name as the account name, it may be ok so long as the owner of the account is showing as you (your IP will bind them anyway when you sign up) but you can use an avatar name she picks and put her work there- again be sure you publish or approve what she makes. Technically she isn't allowed to  play with the capsules etc... but I don't think they'd mind so long as the account is yours and your taking "legal" responsibility for the posts... You can email the team directly (team@hubpages.com) to be double sure... The problem I'm sure is not so much the content, or ownership as it is the legalities of earning from the various monetization models. As the team themselves will post ads etc... to hubs even if you opt out of everything- they are legally liable for this which is why they require the 18+ as I'm sure the other companies also require you to be 18 to earn from them they are passing the laws on to us/you.

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   Cyber Scribeposted 12 years ago

   I specifically checked into all these rules in great detail.
   
   You can't open a hubpages account or an Adsense account until you are 18. But you can have a Xomba account at 14 and there's no age limit for an InfoBarrel account. Your child is allowed to have a Xomba or InfoBarrel account with your Google adsense on it and when they are 18 they can open their own adsense account and you can change the code on their Xomba or InfoBarrel account. Realize though in the meantime you will have to pay tax on their earnings.
   
   You have to be 18 to have a WebAnswers account, but many people do join WebAnswers under 18. If your child joins WebAnswers you can't put your google adsense code on their account because you can't have your google code on more than one account on WebAnswers.
   
   On Hubpages, Xomba and InfoBarrel you can have as many accounts as you like with the same google code.
   
   Now, to answer your original question, nothing is stopping you from opening an account in your name and giving your daughter the earnings from that account, but the account will forever be in your name.
   
   And talking about Xomba and InfoBarrel, I recommend InfoBarrel over Xomba, it's just that I checked into the rules of those very carefully so wanted to share.

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