Hubber score and earnings:

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   habeeposted 13 years ago

   Evidently, hubber score has absolutely nothing to do with earnings. Yesterday was my biggest earning day EVER on HP, yet my hubber score is the lowest it's been in quite a while.
   
   That's okay - I'll take high earnings over a high score any ole day!

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      This fact has been known for a very long time.

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         habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Gee, sorry!

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      auskie12posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      how do i start to earn money

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         habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I answered your email.

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   Lissieposted 13 years ago

   There's never been a correlation - my lower scoring IDs earn more than my higher ones!

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Cool, Lissie!

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   Lady_Eposted 13 years ago

   I noticed that last year. I used to be over the moon when my Hubscore was 100 but when I checked my Adsense, nothing was there - not even a sausage and I notice when my Adsense is very good, my HubScore is Mid 90s.
   
   I don't bother these days.
   
   Best Wishes Habee. Keep up the good work.
   Will visit your profile to catch up later.

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Good to hear from you, Lady E!

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   Pcunixposted 13 years ago

   The only thing I know about my Hub Score is that I don't know much of anything about my Hub Score.

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah - same here, PQ.

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      msshandriaballposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I feel the same way.

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   Nell Roseposted 13 years ago

   I think I would rather have higher money and lower score, for some reason my earnings a day have taken a dive, hey ho!

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ugh. Sorry to hear that!

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   Nell Roseposted 13 years ago

   Seems to have happened since Thanksgiving, maybe I should pop across to America and hold a rally saying, 'Please give up Thanksgiving, just for me, as I need you to make me rich what do you reckon, think it will work? lol!

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      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Works for me.  We do it a day late anyway.

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   Nell Roseposted 13 years ago

   

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   Bianuposted 13 years ago

   Give me high income ,low score any day. You can't bank the score.

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   fastfretaposted 13 years ago

   Um, just wondering what an earning day for a hubber of habee's caliber is like??? I know, habee, a lady never tells. But I'm going to give it a guess, anyway.  Is it, $$, or $$$, or maybe even $$$$.

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      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hi, FF! Lately, I've been having some $$$ days, so I'm very happy!

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         fastfretaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I've been off the Internet HubPages for a few hours, trying to keep up with the keep up with these winds out here.  Anyway Whew! And to think we started here around the same time. I wish I could keep my candle burning next to you. You're a terrific writer, and you deserve every cent you earn. Someone mentioned satisfying quantify for quality, that certainly isn't you.  In reading your hubs, (and I do read them, I just don't always comment ), it's no wonder you get the searches, and impressions you get. =

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            habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            FF, you are too kind. I enjoy reading your hubs, too!

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    Bianuposted 13 years ago

    Its amazing. i wish she would host a webinar. I would be the number one attendee

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       habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Bianu, I appreciate your confidence in me, but it's unfounded. Honestly, I know little about promoting my hubs, and I'm no great hand with SEO, either. I attribute it largely to having so many hubs on so many different topics. I just love writing!

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          mary615posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I don't know how you do it, girl!  You and a couple of others just crank out a Hub every day.....(and they are always good Hubs).  Sometimes I think people sacrfice quality for quantity, know what I mean????

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Habee, you write well on subjects people are interested in, and you do it consistently. You're a top hubber.

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             habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Mark, many thanks! If my hands would be more cooperative, I could write a lot more hubs. I need to have surgery for my CTS. It's really bad. My neurologist said it's the worst case he's ever seen. Oftentimes I have to get my daughter to type for me as I dictate.
             
             Oh, and I love your funny hubs! They always give me a good laugh.

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                Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Mark isn't funny.
                
                I think you missed something.  The guy is dead serious.  He's too upset to talk about it openly, but he's sent me email and he has told me that he is crushed by this impression that he's trying to write comedy.
                
                Yes, Mark, I am violating a confidence, but really: I know how upset you are and it's time to set people straight.

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                   habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Oops, PQ. I am so sorry for thinking that Mark's hubs were SUPPOSED to be funny. I feel so ashamed!

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                   Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   I can't thank you enough PcUnix for that.  Absolutely crushed I have been by the mistaken impression that I was just a second rate jokester without any jokes.
                   Fortunately, you have given me the courage to write my latest hub (yes, I'm not spamming just saying) which in some ways I think you might find helpful...

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                      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I read the hub.  It was timely and helpful.
                      
                      I hope people will now see that you deserve to be taken seriously!

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                      Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      You are still refusing to be honest about this.
                      
                      I'll quote from one of your emails (yes, another confidence violated - but for your own good!)
                      
                      I wouldn't mind if they thought my jokes were weak; it's when they give me the  ROTFLMAO stuff that I am really hurt!
                      
                      
                      I take that as evidence that you would NOT mind being thought of as second rate, but that it is when they assume you are first rate that it stings the most.
                      
                      Don't be ashamed, Mark.  Tell them your true feelings, show your real pain!

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                   RedElfposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   
                   
                   Oh - 
                   Sorry, Mark - I, too, am grateful that PC has set the record straight. It must be so difficult for a second rate comic with no jokes - er, I mean, for someone perceived as a second rate comic with no jokes to survive here when they so desperately desire to be taken seriously - **cough, hack, cough** Ahem!
                   Off to read your latest hub, (not that you would ever stoop to trolling for page views).
                   
                   

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                      Patty Inglish, MSposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Oooohhh, Kitty gots swords again, SnickerSnak.

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                   Bianuposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Ok, so I just had to read some of Marks Hubs and they are sensitive, uplifting and humorous.
                   Great reads, isn't it amazing that he wasn't even trying to be funny?

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          rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          This is exactly what gives hope and encouragement to so many!!  I'm never going to be a sunforged or Misha, but I think I could be a habee.

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             habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Of course, you can!

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                rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Thanks.  You just keep posting girl, because I'm betting hundreds of hubbers are drawing encouragement from you, that they don't have to be a tech genius to earn.

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                   Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   Are you calling Habee a dummy?
                   
                   I agree, I am very inspired by Habee and I want to be just like her when I grow up.

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                      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      
                      
                      UW, I AM a tech dummy!! As for growing up, I refuse!

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    habeeposted 13 years ago

    I feel your pain, Mark.

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       Pcunixposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       You are a good person, Habee.
       
       It's time for me to come clean too.  Although most of my hubs were intended to be hilariously funny, I have the opposite problem that Mark has.  People take the things seriously!
       
       I thought that the clown wig was adding too much solemnity, so I ditched that, but unlike Mark, I never get a ROTFLMAO.
       
       I tried, too.  Two of my most recent hubs had "Google" in the title.  How can that not be funny???

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          Mark Ewbieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks for the wig by the way.  I'm just building up the courage to wear it.

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          habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          

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    Stacie Lposted 13 years ago

    who really cares about a high hubber score as long as you're making money/ of course you don't want a score so low that you lose all the perks..
    

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    JT Waltersposted 13 years ago

    I t is alright since we are on the subjects of Hubber score.  I followed everyone's advice and continued to publish because everyone said that is how I will make my money and it has caused my score to drop again.  Is there a reason why your score drops when you publish alot?
    
    I feel rather tortured about this.  I have goals set for myself that if I pursue my score will drop.
    
    I know everyone said to ignore my score but it realy gets to me.  And yes, I did pretty well earnings wise but only on HP not on adsense.
    
    Thanks
    
    JT

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       barryrutherfordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       What is your average hubscore located at the bottom of  your account page?

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          JT Waltersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Where at the bottom of my account page. Is there a title?
          
          Thanks,
          
          JT

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             rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             barry is talking about your hub statistics page:  click "my account", and you should be on "hubs" and "statistics".  At the bottom you'll see the average score for all of your hubs, total comments to all hubs, 1-day average views to all hubs, 1-week average views, etc. 
             
             At this moment, my hubber score is 96, and the average score for my 195 hubs is 85.  About 6 months after I started at HubPage, my hub average was 78, and my hubber score was 92.

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                JT Waltersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                Mine is only 65 isn't that really low?  I would be embarrassed by it but i am so prolific and most my recent stuff is scored much higher.  Thanks, JT

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                   rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   As this could probably be perceived as a thread hijack, I apologize.  And I probably should refrain, as I fully expect you to ignore what I’m about to say. 
                   
                   Yes, I think 65 is very low, especially for the number of hubs you have.  And yes, this is probably why your hubber score is not higher.  I paged thru your titles, and am pretty stunned at the rate you’re turning out hubs.  If you’re making loads of money, then carry on.  If you’re not (and given your preoccupation with scores and accolades), then I would say this…
                   
                   Stop writing and start reading.  Do this for at least a month.  Write one or two hubs a week if you must. 
                   
                   Read the HubPages help files, view their videos, tutorials, etc.  Read loads of “How to Hub” hubs, but by reputable hubbers.  Lots of what you read may go over your head, but keep reading, then re-read.  In my bookmarks, sunforged, relache, Mark Knowles, Lissie, and darkside have their own folders.  You could also read any “how to” hubs written by HubPages staff.  Read about traffic, tags, keywords, titles, SEO, etc. 
                   
                   Search the files for HubPages contests, and read winning hubs.  A high hubscore and hubber score does not always mean the hub is top quality.  You’d definitely be safe reading habee’s hubs as representative of good quality.  See if you can pick up any tips to make your hubs better. 
                   
                   Then before you start back into mass production of hubs, spend some time making your current hubs better.

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                      JT Waltersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      I have read the learning center but I guess I can always go back. Given my hub scores have improved wouldn't it be mroe prudent to go back and fix the lowering scoring hubs which bring my average down?  Because my lowering scoring hubs are my first hubs.  I have many over 80.  I have read all the winning contestants and I have read just about everyone you  have listed.
                      
                      
                      I wouldn't ignore the advance of someone who took the time to page through my titles.  I will consider it carefully.  And I do intend on stopping hubbing for a while. I have been working very hard at this for six months of my life.
                      
                      Accolades mean less to me but the hubscore is what I am most concerned with. But ou have told me not to worry about it.  So I will equally wiegh both of your advices.  I think my score is low also because i haven't backlinck, posted one of my links in the forums for people to read beyond the contest and I don't SEO either.
                      
                      At the beginning I didn't know to type in word and then cut and paste.  I do that now.
                      
                      I have no idea what a thred hjack is but I apprecate all the advice given to me.
                      
                      Thank you.
                      
                      JT

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                         rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         I totally disagree.  I did some backlinking a year or so ago, but haven't bothered since.  About all I do is use the keyword tool to make sure I'm not writing on something no one is going to search for.  I think habee would tell you something similar. 
                         
                         I stand by everything I said before, and suggest you try to set aside your pre-conceived notions and read again.
                         
                         Check out Paul E's thread: 
                         
                         http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/88292

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                      habeeposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Wow, Rosemary -  I'm truly touched! JT, I suggest you also read the hubs of rmcrayne! Seriously, she "puts herself" in her writing. She has a writing "voice." It's not just a dry regurgitation of information.

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                         rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Holle what an incredibly nice thing to say.  Can't think of anyone I'd rather be in a "mutual admiration society" with. 

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             barryrutherfordposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Also you might like to read my hub 'How I tripled my hubpage earnings in 2010'

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       rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       If like me, you compose your hubs offline, such as with MS Word, then copy/paste into HP capsules, your score for the hub will start out at about 50, which brings your average for all of your hubs down.  It takes a few days for each hub score to climb up.  Clearly your overall hub score average impacts your hubber score, as many, many hubbers report this correlation. 
       
       
       
       Tortured?  Seriously?!  Hopefully you will grow, and reach the point that most veteran hubbers are at, where you will rarely even notice these scores.  If you’re tortured, you could copy/paste as you go, and save hubs unpublished, and not publish until your score was ~75 I suppose. 
       
       
       
       
       I’d say a significant majority of us are earning predominantly with HP Ads.

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          JT Waltersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Yeah  I cut and paste through word.  And I publish frequently which keeps driving my scores down.  I will probably have to get that mind set over the hubber score.
          
          I thought when I started they said they majority of your income comes through adsense?  Thank you.
          
          JT

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             rmcrayneposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             For most of us, this has not been the case since 23 Feb 2011.

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                JT Waltersposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I guess I missed the boat on that one.

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    barryrutherfordposted 13 years ago

    re: question about average Hubscore
    
    thanks rmcrayne  for answering this I had to go out.

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