I have to agree with others. HP has been ripped off essentially. The entire site has been copied!!! YOU should do something. Using US to do the work for you is not acceptable.
HP will have more clout with Google and should be on top of this issue.
Sounds like WE are just being left "out in the cold!"
Where would anyone safely file a DMCA complaint against an Italian site? Wondering who is hosting it: Are they US-based and reputable?
HERE HP.... Pick Up The Phone And Ring This GUY...
HE IS THE AUTHOR OF THE PROXY THAT HAS RAPED YOUR SITE AND OUR WORKS!
Perhaps SOMEONE has the courage to point out to this guy that HIS Client Has ALSO Breached HIS TOS!
- There you go... NOW you can BOTH Take Down the Culprit... AND if you ask properly you can even DEMAND the ID of the Culprit! AND THEN Sue HIM!
____________ THE GUY WHO WROTE THE PROXY ______________________
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Where is this site?
None of the url's in this thread currently bring me to an example of what is being discussed?
Is the problem still live?
Heres what appears on MY page on their site.... bad news and badly presented.
http://www.novellosrl.it/cgi-bin/nph-pn … 2r636s6q2s
This is the hosting company, it is here that the DMCA notice should be sent, HubPages can easily send a DMCA here and unless the hosting co are complete rogues, they will drop the site off inside a day normally.
Interferenza S.r.l.
Via Caserta 3, San Nicola La Strada - 81020 CE
Tel. 0823454016
I have been DMCA noticing companies who have ripped of websites I control frequently, if the host is legitimate, they act fast.
HubPages OWN the images that these folk are publishing, THEY CAN AND SHOULD ACT NOW, and equally so should we all individually.
Google will also take them off the engines if we complain, if only 10 of us complained, it will happen, if hundreds did, it would be faster.
Also Warner Brothers use their hosting (so they say)
If enough people contacted WB and suggested they review their hosting program with these guys..... they should take note and may persuade them to take down the counterfeiters.
It's always difficult to get the right people, but I would/will start here, you can be sure if they get a plethora of calls and emails, they will be sent to the right person, these guys understand protection of copyright!
JULIE HEATH
Executive Director
Clip & Still Licensing Department
Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc.
4000 Warner Boulevard
Burbank, California 91522
Phone: (818) 954-1853; Fax: (818) 954-3817;
E-mail: clipandstilldept@warnerbros.com
Recorded Information Line: (818) 954-2298
Sometimes you need to go outside the square to solve problems!
Here is a copy and paste DMCA Notice:
Take down Notice pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act
VIA Email at: (email address of hosting company)
Re: Copyright and Violation of Intellectual Property Claim
To: Legal Department
http://(url of hosting company)
Be aware that http://www.(url of offending site) have violated the copyright of our website, using images and also violating our intellectual property rights by publishing data, text and material which is exclusively pertaining to (your name or hubpages url)
The images described and text used has been written expressly for the use of (your name or hubpages url)and (your name or hubpages url) have been the owners of (your name or hubpages url) since (date), and have not given any authority to (url of offending site) to use any material from our site.
We are certain that your company does not wish to be associated with such bad business practice.
(your hubpages url)and (your name) are the copyright owners of the photographs, text, design and intellectual property being infringed at:
Our website: http://www.(your name or hubpages url)
Their website: http://[b](url of your page on offending site)
(Repeat as many times as you can be bothered, three will normally be enough)
This letter is official notification under the provisions of Section 512(c) of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”) to effect removal of the above-reported infringements. I request that you immediately issue a cancellation message as specified in RFC 1036 for the specified postings and prevent the infringer, who is identified by its Web address, from posting the infringing photographs to your servers in the future.
Please be advised that law requires you, as a service provider, to “expeditiously remove or disable access to” the infringing photographs upon receiving this notice.
Noncompliance may result in a loss of immunity for liability under the DMCA.
I have a good faith belief that use of the material in the manner complained of here is not authorized by me, the copyright holder, or the law.
The information provided here is accurate to the best of my knowledge.
I swear under penalty of perjury that I am the copyright holder.
Please send me at the address noted below a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter.
------------------------------------
This should bring them down fast if enough people do it.
Here is the whois for these guys:
Dominio
Dominio:novellosrl.it
Stato:ok
Data Creazione:14-gen-2003 0.00.00 CET
Data Scadenza:14-gen-2013 CET
Data Aggiornamento:30-gen-2012 1.50.22 CET
Registrante
Nome:Novello S.r.l.
Organizzazione:Novello S.r.l.
ContactID:NOVE82
Indirizzo:
Via Ca' Marcello, 73
30172 - Mestre (VE)
it
Nazionalità:it
Telefono:+39.0415311633
Fax:+39.0415310125
E-Mail:info@novellosrl.it
Data Creazione:1-mar-2007 10.47.59 CET
Data Aggiornamento:16-nov-2010 9.47.47 CET
Contatto Amministrativo
Nome:Roberta Radicchi
ContactID:RR1969
Indirizzo:
Via Ca' Marcello, 73
30172 - Mestre (VE)
it
Telefono:+39.0415311633
Fax:+39.0415310125
E-Mail:francescoradicchi@inwind.it
Data Creazione:14-gen-2003 0.00.00 CET
Data Aggiornamento:16-nov-2010 9.48.02 CET
Contatti Tecnici
Nome:Giancarlo Russo
ContactID:GR247
Indirizzo:
Via Evangelista, 5
81020 - San Nicola La Strada (CE)
it
Telefono:+39.0823454016
Fax:+39.02700404191
E-Mail:domainmanager@interferenza.com
Data Creazione:18-set-2001 0.00.00 CET
Data Aggiornamento:16-nov-2010 9.48.02 CET
Nome:Roberta Radicchi
ContactID:RR1969
Indirizzo:
Via Ca' Marcello, 73
30172 - Mestre (VE)
it
Telefono:+39.0415311633
Fax:+39.0415310125
E-Mail:francescoradicchi@inwind.it
Data Creazione:14-gen-2003 0.00.00 CET
Data Aggiornamento:16-nov-2010 9.48.02 CET
Registrar
Organizzazione:Interferenza s.r.l.
Nome:INTERFERENZA-REG
Web:http://www.interferenza.com
Nameservers
ns1.interferenza.net
ns2.interferenza.net
More as I dig it out.
John
That is great John
Thank you for posting that information
If you attempted to login to that site. Change your HubPages password immediately.
You may also want to check to see if any affiliate accounts you have set up at HubPages have the right IDs. (AdSense pub-id and whatnot.)
Never ever login to a spoof (fake) site.
I had a friend who logged into a fake PayPal once (looked JUST like PayPal) and his entire bank account was drained. Fortunately, his bank replaced the money.
I had my look around.
1. Novello is a real and reputable company, so its very likely that they have been hacked or a web developer with access is playing around with their space.
so, the very,very easiest solution, is to contact Novello and give them a link that shows what is happening.
Novello:
Via Ca 'Marcello, 73
thirty thousand one hundred seventy-two Venezia-Mestre
Phone 041-5311633
Fax 041-5310125
Hours:
8:30 12:30
14:45 18:15
Saturday closed
E-mail: novello@novellosrl.it
to reach
2. All this is, is a script that is serving Hubpages site via proxy in an iframe.
Ever use stumbleupon or any other site that has a header that follows you as you search around? Thats an iframe - a window within a window
3. The ads arent "stripped" .. they just are set to appear at hubpages to com so are not being served to novello . No postal forward is in place.
4. These pages are BEING indexed.
5. Unfortunately, Hubpages staff must not have done any cursory research when alerted as you will clearly see that hubpages.com pages (not author posts) hubpages.com logos and hubpages.com style sheets and other protected hubpages.com property is being duplicated. So they do very much have the ability to act.
6. This doesnt concern me in the least, the site is super slow, doesnt seem to have any malicious intent and should not be out ranking any hub content. Never a bad idea to change a password when these type of things happen, but my worry level would be very low
7. Someone just send a friendly email (in italian) to novello - the problem will be fixed as quick as they can hire or fire a web developer
They have other sites being proxied and indexed - http://www.novellosrl.it/cgi-bin/nph-pn … 6q6s74652s
Wow, and I just sent my email...the more you know!! Thanks sunforged!
I did wonder about that, meaning the legitimacy of the company Novello. Initially, I didn't go to the site, but then my curiosity struck, and I looked at it.
I did notice that the header on the site referenced a leader in pneumatics. I thought to myself, what does that have to do with hubbing, and online articles. What you wrote here makes absolute since to me...but so did the rest of it.
I think I'll just hold tight from here on out, and see how this plays out.
I am contacting the server owners as well, to advise them of the breach.
I want to reiterate what Melbel said - DO NOT LOG IN TO THAT SITE! Doing so may allow a middle man to do even more damage, as that site is in no way secure.
Sunforged, that was an excellent explanation! It really is pretty harmless and -unfortunately- happens often.
Sunforged, you rock! I'm amazed at your ability to put things into perspective. Thank you for your awesome and speedy work. I feel a lot better after reading your post. btw, are you single?
HubPages hubbers certainly help to keep my faith! You guys are THE BEST!
Not only are you knowledgeable, but you are sticklers for doing what's right, at least trying to anyway, and for keeping others involved and informed.
Despite the potential breach of HubPages, I truly appreciate the spirit of community! Fellow hubbers YOU ROCK!!!
Hello everyone,
This site is just proxying us. It has no real effect on us, and is something that is (sadly) done all the time. A site that proxies all of its content from us is unlikely to outrank the original content. I hope that people aren't trying to log into a strange site with a different URL - suffice it to say, DO NOT DO THAT.
The site is based in Italy, but we'll try to get the proxying to stop, since we are legally able to do so (we can't if they've just copied Hubs, the content of which we do not own).
I know the thought of someone just copying everything hits people and makes them angry at an emotional level (why shouldn't it?), but the thing to remember is that this doesn't pose any actual danger to HubPages, as several people in this thread have pointed out.
Thanks Jason, for this clarification!
What I've been waiting for!!!! Thank you Jason!
Since these forums are moderated, is it possible that HP can step in sooner to help dispel any myths, concerns, or panics?
I truly appreciate your comment Jason, I feel much, much better!
We do try to respond, but we are not in the Forums all the time.
The thing to keep in mind:
- We definitely want to know immediately about site problems (things broken that prevent people from using the site). We do have systems set in place to detect errors and changes in traffic patterns, but please do report those just the same.
- We can not do anything under the DMCA to report or shut down sites that copy Hubs, because we do not own that content, Hubbers do.
- We do work to take down proxies, but the impact is negligible in the short- to medium-term, so Hubbers do not need to worry.
- Never, ever log into a site pretending to be HubPages but with a different URL.
Well Jason, as my Grandmother would simply say, "I am satisfied!"
Oh thanks, Jason.
"This site is just proxying us..... but we'll try to get the proxying to stop, since we are legally able to do so..." --- oh what a relief!
Thanks Jason for the information. I'm glad to hear that it doesn't pose any "actual danger" and that you guys are pursuing blocking the site. I think that hearing from HP staff is what many of us needed to feel a bit more relieved about the whole situation.
Here's a page that gives a few suggestions as to what you can do as site owners to keep proxies like this from working:
http://www.seofaststart.com/blog/google-proxy-hacking
Scroll down a little to the "How To Fight Back" section
Proxy hacking? If this is the case, then this can be done with any site, correct?
And am I reading correctly that hubbers are protected by copyrights?
Hey y'all! Yep, you got me.
First, yes, you're right- the proxy site does violate our copyright, and we are responsible for defending it (though please remember that since you own the content of your Hubs, you are the ones responsible for it, and need to file DMCAs in most cases when you've found that your content is stolen).
Second, what I hadn't realized before is the site is Italian, which means your sending over DMCA requests probably won't mean that much to them. My apologies for asking you to send those over.
As Jason says, we're working to have the site taken down or blocked. Please be patient. And PLEASE DO NOT THROW BRICKS AT ME!!! I'm delicate.
Thanks Simone (and Jason) for this response.
I have to work on my tone, lol. Just felt like a canned response. Some aspects of my day to day work may or may not include intentionally persuasive language use.
I think most realize you all have your hands full and that this situation on first glance looks like all the others where your hands would be tied.
Cheers on the quick response!
Hi Simone, no bricks...lol. I feel much better because I didn't see how a DMCA would really work, seeing that the entire site is being redirected.
No worries Simone! Most, including myself were up-in-arms simply because we didn't know what to do, and/or what if any impact it would have on us.
I am thankful for everyone here who has contributed, and took great measures to help to resolve, and then ultimately resolve this issue.
It's not about it being indexed. These things only become a worry if they start getting significant traffic compared to the real site.
Which this is not. I admit I would like to see it go away, mind. But I'm not worried. At all.
Thank you Jason, Simone, Website examiner, Sunforged, aguasilver, Melbel, Bendo and everyone else who has contributed their knowledge to this. My knowledge of these issues is completely zilch and I for one, felt very reassured by the calm responses you made.
Yep, +1's all round. I have to say I am reassured whenever Sunforged says what the deal is.
My guess would be that HP is already on it and the site will be removed soon. This is infringing on their rights as well, and I can't see them allowing someone to steal content and revenue. It does take some time to get something like that taken down,though.
Thanks for the quick action Hubpages, I will see if that fixes my traffic issue. Sorry for the alarming forum title as it appears that this was probably unintentional. It does indeed look to be gone now.
Although, the header to their company on the proxy is suspect. Looks like they just disabled Hubpages from the proxy, still affecting other sites.
I believe there are some measures that could be taken by Hubpages to prevent this type of thing in regards to proxies. It may affect people who want to legitimately use a proxy to access Hubpages but that might be a tradeoff worth considering.
Because the copyright alert in the "my account" section never detected this as well.
I understand that HP doesn't own our copyrights, we own them. However, we posted our original work on this site in good faith, with the assumption the site was protecting itself (and therefore, content of contributors) from being hijacked in this manner. I absolutely think HP needs to act (which it appears they've begun doing).
QUESTION - I tried to find the site just to see what was going on, and Google lists it as 'forbidden' currently. Can any of our Hubbers who log in from foreign countries see whether it's still up elsewhere? Probably a dumb question - I'm just wondering if the ban on the site is unique to US searches or if it's found its way throughout the entire Internet. Sorry if I sound very non-techie (I'm a writer, not an Internet expert).
I am in the UK and it is reported the same. Site forbidden. Good work everyone.
Thanks for checking & posting answers, molometer, Judi Bee and Rosie2010. I was away from computer; just now had a chance to reply.
http://www.novellosrl.it/cgi-bin/nph-pn … 2r636s6q2s
here people sheesh. and here is facebook
http://www.novellosrl.it/cgi-bin/nph-pn … 354q4q4153
there is another facebook link on this site as well.
http://www.novellosrl.it/cgi-bin/nph-pn … 732r636s6q
the other link to facebook on their site.
No telling what other popular sites could have been hijacked, then. MySpace, LinkedIn, you name it. The good news is that it won't just be our HP team going after them, it will be an army of sites. However, if it's happened once (to HP, FB, whatever), it's just a matter of time before it happens again.
I would venture to guess they are doing this in order to drive traffic to their site. They sell stuff. I think they are hoping people will make a search for these popular sites and end up on their site click a link at the top and shop their site as a result.
For server names ending in: ... and a path starting with: Cookie name Value Secure?
.hubpages.com / huid QtNtDU89HDJjwFsMCpvqAg== No
.facebook.com / datr UR09TyJKSjyUWmysED8-kxlH No
.facebook.com / reg_fb_gate
http%3A %2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FHubpages.com No
.facebook.com / reg_fb_ref
http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FHubpages.com No
.facebook.com / lsd 1RFLS No
They are STILL tracking HP and HPs Facebook pages via interaction with FB.
So... watch and make sure that you don't fall for their Fake FB Sign In or account verifications!
I have Stripped out the relevant Cookies above from their Proxy management system, (from within) so they should now only reset if done manually or if loaded again via HP!
Re: the original gateway under the HP url...
403 Forbidden
nginx
So well done everyone!
PD, is it fixed? Too nervous to read all the comments.
Their Proxy is Blocked... so they should no longer be viewing HP in real time (if at all now).
However they have a Phishing page up that relates to HubPages Facebook Site. I have gone around that and stripped out the HP Cookies (above)...
but it still is an indexed page and if ANYONE tries to Sign In to FB on this page.. their details will be captured..
Normally Google would put a warning up if they are aware of this.. I don't think they do yet. So as far as HP go... as a precaution.. I would suggest that maybe change your P/W here if you still concerned - and then biz as usual
It is Always Really Important to Act asap with these issues... you have to keep knocking them down regardless of internal politics here.. because sooner or later they will get the Don't Mess With Us message and think twice
Actually I stand in awe that Pearldiver can even do this stuff!
Thank you Pearldiver, you are a star!
Thanks heaps.. Cardisa and Aguasilver.. No awe required mate
It's all about how I yell at my screen... and my one armed approach to multi-tasking
I agree with Cardisa and aguasilevr...Pearldiver!!! You're Hot Stuff!!!
+4 for PearlDiver's skill and help. Amazing! And you deserve the Zzzzzzs you mentioned below. Sounds like you've put in long hours. Thanks!
Is it safe to change my pass now? Or are they still phishing or whatever (Sorry I don't know the terms)
Yes... they are blocked Loco.. until they have another go. You can now confidently carry on - have a good one - I'm in ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz zone!
I changed my password right after thanking Pearldiver. Feel much better.
So why isn't Hub Pages doing something to protect what we have written and how is this other site able to steal and or plagerize our work and get away with it?
My guess is they're doing plenty behind the scenes - and probably not being specific about it in a public forum so they don't tip their hand. They would also want to make certain they know results before announcing anything. These are just guesses - but I've been very impressed at the responsiveness of site moderators, so I'd be surprised if they're not hard at work on things.
Exactly Mary! Based on the thread, and Jason's comment HubPages has leveraged itself and has had the site removed.
Dave, my impression is that Hubpages like any other site can not prevent anything like this from happening, but they can, as they have proved do something about it when it does.
It would be silly not to do anything as the entire site is at risk including HP content not just our hubs.
It's "Marcy," - but no big deal, I get called "Mary" a lot - easy to miss the 'c' in my name. You should see what they do with Goodfleisch . . .
Oh my...I'm sorry...and yes I obviously missed the "C"! Now I look like that fraganackle fake site!!! I'll get your name right...go Mary...I mean Marcy...see what I mean!!!!
Lol! No sweat! Believe me, the last-name glitches I get would crack you up!
Thank-you for all your fine work PD,!! and I know you even hotter than your avatar suggests Hottie pa tottie
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