Why? My hub has been marked as needing revision

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   TexMarInfoposted 13 years ago

   I have no clue as to why and I have not been given and reply to me request for more info. I never received and letter from the hub page staff. Can someone please give me some understanding on this??

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      Dave Mathewsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Just from reading your complaint here in the forums, one thing comes to mind. You do not express yourself clearly in English for all to be able to understand you.

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         TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Dave,  I think that I may have given more attention to detailing what my complaint is. If I were to express myself in a more detailed fashion, the end result would be nothing more than to say that I've been cited for violation of those rules in posting hub pages but I have not been told as to how I am in violation.
         
         Looking at the hubpages in question, I cannot see anything that would cause such concern. I would hope that my hubpage would not be judged from anything other than the content withing and not from the complaint itself. Does this make sense?
         
         I was hoping to get some kind of input from what my hubpages reflect. This would be helpful. Yes?

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      relacheposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The site FAQ details a variety of scenarios by which Hubs can be moderated by admin for inappropriate content or non-compliance with site standards.
      
      Those topics are covered starting here, http://hubpages.com/faq/#what_is_allowed

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         TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         This is correct. They do detail a variety of scenarios by which Hubs can be moderated by admin for inappropriate content or non-compliance with site standards
         
         This is a problem that I have been trying to deal with in my hubpages concerning divorce law as well. The indeterminacy of law in divorce leaves many people to guess to the meaning and therefore its easy to run afowl of what is  expected.
         
         Here is another case of vagueness that leaves me to guess as to what it is that I have done wrong. This would be the same as if you had been given a $50. traffic ticket and not being told what it was that you did wrong but only given a list of violations that result in a $50 fine.
         Does this make sense?

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      Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      You were emailed, twice, by the moderation team; 21 hours ago, and almost 2 hours ago. I would check to make sure the emails are not trapped in your junk mail folder.

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         TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for replying. Yes they did reply but the problem that continues to exist is that the replies did nothing to specify what was needing to be revised. With no indication of how the hubs in question did not conform to standards, it is not apparent where the pages needed correction.
         
         If the pages are identified as being in violation, it should be recognizable as to how they are in violation. This is what I continue to not understand and I'm hoping to rectify the problem in a timely fashion. Can you help to identify what it is that the Hubpage staff is concerned with?
         Thanks.

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            Jason Menayanposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            You should reread the emails that the moderators sent you. I'm not a moderator, so I don't know what they sent you.
            
            Literally hundreds of Hubs are moderated every day, so the onus is on you to read the emails they send you very carefully, read the Terms of Use, and the FAQ, and submit your Hubs for republication when they comply with the rules.
            
            That's great that fellow Hubbers seem to be willing to help you out, as well, in this forum thread.

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   classicalgeekposted 13 years ago

   I don't know which hub it is that has been marked for revision, but I picked one of yours at random: "Divorce, The Attorney and the TDRPC". It is substantially copied content. While it may not be plagiarism, because the source should be public domain, the fact remains that it contains very little material written by you, compared with the amount of copied content. Hope that helps.

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      TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for replying.
      My biggest concern is wtih the understanding of the rule against duplication.
      I realize the importance of not just duplicating but to produce something original.
      
      The one clarification that needs to be made is in concern with quoting law or legal citations. There is a strong need to recite the statute as it stands before commenting in it . Also, the opinions of the court are highly relevant to make an argument that is consistent with adjudicated law.
      
      I would think that it is important for Hubpages to strengthen its rules concerning duplication of content but as this has recently been updated, I think that there is room for discretion.

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         Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         They have updated rules for No Duplication at all.
         
         http://blog.hubpages.com/2011/03/things … your-hubs/
         
         Quotes are only allowed to a point. You might just write more content or use less quotes. If you do this, I would suggest e-mailing Hubpages staff to review the amount of quotes before republishing the Hub.
         
         Follow the link Relache provided and you can learn more from the  FAQ section also.

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            TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Michael,  I truly appreciate your effort to help but it seems that you are contradicting what I find by reviewing the link that Relache provided. Also, this information provided is not specific in identifying the problem that continues to exist.
            
            My  question was initially dealing with why hubpages staff have not responded with further clarification. I have asked what was wrong with my hub as I could see nothing that offended the rules.
            
            You state that they have  updated the rules for "no duplication at all"
            
            As all my pages are truly unique to HubPages, then I cannot be in violation of those stated rules as found in FAQ.
            
            Also, please consider this quote as stated under the link provided by Relache:
            
            "..,or some commonly-used, public domain, or historical phrases have triggered the duplicate content detector. If your Hub has been certified as original by an administrator, a notification signifying so will appear at the top of the Hub."
            If I could be shown how I am duplicating another hub, I would be surprised..
            
            As is, I am left to guess as to the discrepancy and have not been given further clarification as I had asked for.
            Thanks.

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               Michael Willisposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               You mention how you could be shown how you copied another hub? It doesn't have to be a hub. It could be anything on the internet.
               
               There is not a definite amount of words for quotes that I could find anywhere. That's why I suggested that you might write more content to go with the hub you have quotes or use less quotes.
               Then...e-mail Hubpage staff and see if this would pass the automatic detection, before trying to publish again. 
               No one outside of you and staff can see your unpublished hubs, so there is no way I or anyone else can give you a 100% answer.
               
               Staff is usually not on the site that much on weekends, so expect you might have to wait a little longer, like first of the week for an answer. Also, with everything going on with the Google shift, they have been quite busy.

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   brakel2posted 13 years ago

   Welcome to Hubpages. I hope you can fix the hub and remove any copied parts other than maybe a one sentence quotation with quotation marks. You can put much info in your own words. Follow what Hubpages has told you in recent emails. Good luck.

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      TexMarInfoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks. I appreciate your time and help..
      I have nothing in my hub that is duplicated from other hubs so this can't be the problem.
      Everything that is found in my hub is in my own words except for the statutes that i am concerned with and the case law that supports what I am trying to explain. Statutes and case law is not considered as a duplication concern under the rules against duplication and cannot be reworded.
      
      My concern is to why Hubpage staff hasn't given further clarification when I requested it.

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         brakel2posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You  failed to put the quoted parts in quotation marks or identified the source. You cannot quote all these statutes but must put them in your own words. Explain the law without quoting it. I believe that writing a hub on the law presents difficulty and that even if you rephrase it, you may not get traffic to such a hub and rephrasing it will lose meaning. Figure this out as Hubpages cannot give you an entire dissertation on this issue. Good luck.

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   lrohnerposted 13 years ago

   By any chance, are you the author of:
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Divorce-Attorneys-QA
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Questions-4-Divorce-Lawyers
   
   http://hubpages.com/hub/Divorce-Texas-Family-Law
   
   Two are unpublished and one is published -- and they all have substantially the same content. That's certainly grounds for moderation of the hubs. Duplicate content is duplicate content. And it's a no no.
   
   You can always link to the source of information rather than copy it.

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   Trish_Mposted 13 years ago

   Hi
   
   I just had a quick look at your work and may I just say, Texmarinfo, that the beginning of your item 'Divorce Law Info' seems rather confusing to me.
   
   I feel that it needs a clarifying introduction.
   
   You have even left in :'Click edit above to add content to this empty capsule.'
   
   Then there is: 'Critical Q&A!!...'
   
   This is sort of thing needs looking at, or it could be reported as inferior.
   
   Good luck!

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