Whats happened to Cagsil??
- BRIAN SLATERposted 12 years ago
0 - BRIAN SLATERposted 12 years ago0
Wow...that crazy. As I'm always reading forums and refraining from all my sarcastic remarks I really want to leave for repetitive and just plain ridiculous questions....Cagsil is there welcoming people and answering. I can't imagine him doing anything to get banned.
how can such a soft pretty face have a roar like a lion
Awe....thanks. I am a Leo after all. The fact that I'm Italian and Irish may contribute as well.
I'm sure it's frustrating for that to happen, and I agree that someone should be told what the offense was that caused the banning. From what I have read in the past (and it may not be true any more), it is pretty easy to get someone banned. For a while, there was an active forum thread asking that the name of "banning" be changed to something less dire-sounding. Something like "time out" or something of the sort.
But, to Cagsil's case. Like all the rest of us, he is multi-faceted, and sometimes his comments that may be intended as objective statements come across as belittling or insulting of others. I think that effect tends to be magnified online, where we don't have the advantage of seeing facial expression and body language to help interpret words.
Immediately after someone announced that he had been banned, I looked back to see what comments he had made just prior to that time that could have caused it. There seemed to be one that might have been taken as a personal insult, but I don't know that it was.
I have seen other helpful Hubbers get banned for what seemed to be no reason. Maybe at some point the banning system will be revised. But honestly, there are other HP revisions that are more important to me right now! lol
To quote Cagsil, "I hope that helps."
lol...I like the "time out" idea.
- Home Girlposted 12 years ago0
i thought Cagsil was always "politically correct" I can't believe this happening. Some "sesnsitive" jerk probably compla
ined to HP. O tempora o mores! Jason is quite correct and most likely Cagsil has been pointed to the offending post and has been told when his privileges will be reinstated.
But, I think the point is not so much that but more along the lines that Cagsil is confused as to why his comments have been deemed inappropriate to warrant a banning.
Jason has explained that "personal attacks" are the issue.
Therefore, there are two issues to consider:
1. What is a personal attack?
2. Who is reporting them and how often are they reported?
As for the second issue, I rarely if ever report anyone for personal attacks, even though I receive them repeatedly.
The first issue is where the majority of confusion lies, not only for forum members, but also for those mods who initiate the banning.
And, it is this issue that is vital for everyone to come to agreement if fair and equitable bannings are to be invoked amongst the members here so that they can agree if and when they get banned that they have indeed violated that rule.
Of course, it is understandable that mods have a great deal to do here and are far too busy to put to committee each and every complaint of personal attacks.
However, if a committee were to clarify exactly what constitutes a personal attack, members like Cagsil would not likely have ever made such a comment and would not be confused as to why he was banned.
There is a lot of information regarding what is and what isn't a personal attack. Why not take the time to clarify using the resources already available?
But, to be fair, Jason didn't say anything about an e-mail, did he? Neither did TMM or earnest.
Frankly, whether Cagsil knows why or not, I really don't think it's a good idea to share with other Hubbers the reason - because of what I stated above. It seems to me that it would just lead to more wars than we already have. Not a good idea.
The only time I was banned I was given the post which caused the ban. Of course, it was nonsense because neither I, nor the other two banned members, reported the others and couldn't see what in the heck caused the ban.
But heck, we may ban HubPages before it's over and done. What goes around.....!
- Home Girlposted 12 years ago0
Rattlesnakes and vipers, eh? Compared to human beings, serpents are not so bad unless you step on one.
But near-sighted beer drinking spermatozoa cartoons? Well.....folks just naturally sit up and take notice when they lecture!
Cags is missed very much. He will be back! And then the sun can shine again...Miss you buddy! ((
))and it's goodbye from me too, and I haven't even bothered to meet you!!
Now this reply (to me) hurts!
Although I note in another thread that you are, or were, or tried to be (not real sure) that sub-human known as a politician. Perhaps it's best after all.Steady on there wilderness, the comment was meant to be in agreement with yours!
Don't you think there are any decent politicians?
I have never been one, but would hate to think they are all bad, or that decent people shouldn't run for office.Money or power seem to make people turn. Not all of them, but no doubt power corrupts many people.
Actually we have very little in the way of expectations for fairness here, LeanMan. HP doesn't guarantee fairness at any point, nor is there anything we can do to make them explain their position.
I've learned this the hard way via my experiences on other content sites. Everything HP does is for their own benefit. As writers, we are expendable and easily replaced by other hopeful, but necessarily naive, authors.
Some of us do feel the members here are "family" in a certain type of way, and we do try to look out for each other as best we can. But never consider any staff member as such or you'll regret it sooner or later. It's just business.
Sad, ain't it!
Yadda yadda yadda!
ps-I think there's a booger on your finger.
Since you freely admit to having a boggled mind, I will not bother to balk at your post.
You being all adult and everything.-
Yep! Do anything for too long and sh*t happens.
Living has that fatal edge to it.Ain't it the truth, Kim!
Ain't it the truth!
- Home Girlposted 12 years ago0
- BRIAN SLATERposted 12 years ago0
Thank you earnest
You said "posting ultra-conservative drivel"...TMMason pointed out that it wasn't just conservatives. I was merely agreeing with him.
And I agree with you about arguing online, but a lot of people enjoy it, soooooo....live and let live.lol...Well, for once I guess I'm living dangerously...took me almost 52 years, but better late than never?
Really, though--it IS true. I mean we've had LadyLove on one side, and Lovemychris on the other of the political threads, and both are about as extreme as you can get, and have been known to throw out insults on occasion...Of course, they aren't the only two, either!
Nice to meet you, and I hope you continue to have fun with your debating!
i agree TamCor
from a leant lefty leaning leftist- You know I Copy-Righted that. I am waiting for the right as we speak. If you google it you will fnd it is a TMMason original. Wait till the t-shirts come out.
All you leftists who would like to wear it proudly let me know and I will lease the rights for a small percantage.- ...how much?....i like that expression - it gives me a chuckle every time!...thanks
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