Brazil is booming! Would you consider living there?

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   Escobanaposted 12 years ago

   I'm considering to move to Brazil next year. The country is enormous so it's impossible to say where, but I'm thinking of Ubatuba near the coast of Sao Paolo.
   
   Would you recommend any other location in Brazil and why?

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      Blond Logicposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Hi,
      I moved to Brazil 2 years ago. We bought a place in the state of Ceara. We are about 10 minutes from the beach and have 3 hectares. The price of land is still inexpensive up here.
      
      It depends on what you are looking for. The weather where we are is always 30°C with a low of about 25°C at night.  If you want it cooler, you will need to head to the mountains or further south.
      
      If you are going to work, further south will be your best bet. Where I am is still remote but everyone is starting to build more. If you are out of the city, the roads will be poorly laid cobbles or sand/dirt roads.The infrastructure I believe is one of the reasons Brazil has lagged behind in development.
      
      If you are coming from the States or Europe, to achieve a similar standard of what you are accustom to, you will need to head south.
      Where I am, the people are very welcoming and  friendly with a definite relaxed way of thinking. There is a high level of illiteracy here which is slowly changing with the younger generations.
      
      Although property is inexpensive, cars are expensive as are other luxury goods. The quality of Brazilian made goods is generally poor and imports are expensive. Take a look at Mercardo Livre. It is the Brazilian Ebay.
      
      Wherever you end up, I wish you well.

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         Escobanaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks so much for your response. Very detailed. I'm definitely taking a look at the Brazilian Ebay. In terms of prices and comparing it will be interesting.
         
         Ubatuba will be like living a life I'm used to, considering the standard of living here in Spain, Europe.
         I'm curious to see what life will be like but if I'm lucky I won't be starting on my own. My boyfriend is Brazilian and has left already to start things up :-)

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            IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I thought you just had a thread recently abut splitting up and starting out afresh on your own?
            
            Is this the same boyfriend? Tell him to sling his hook.

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      Daniella Lopezposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I would not consider moving there because the women have nicer butts than I! hehe

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   IzzyMposted 12 years ago

   One thing I would suggest to avoid doing if moving to Brazil is getting pregnant.
   A set of dicephalic parapagus twins have just been born, the second such set in Brazil this year.
   
   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … Jesus.html
   
   I have no idea of the causes, but two unrelated sets in one country almost suggests it could be something environmental.

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      lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Ha!! How many people are born in Brazil every year?? So 2 cases amongst them isn't a big thing. But ya; 2 from the same country within a year rather unusual

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         IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Did you know there has only been 14 reported cases of dicephalic twins born in the last 200 years?
         
         What are the odds against having two sets born in the same year in the same country?

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            lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Just 14? Wow!!
            14/200 = 0.07 per year
            Take it as 250 countries there are more but just for this research by the scientist typing this
            0.07/250 = 0.00028 per country per year.
            So 2/0.00028% = 7142.85% higher than the usual
            Hmm good point you got there
            
            That too 2 of them are from this years brazil births

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               IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Thank God all that college education is working!
               
               PS I couldn't work that out, but knew the figures would be phenomenal, thanks!

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                  lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Haha Am I supposed to say thanks or were you being sarcastic?
                  But, surely that's a whopping increase in the %age!

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                     IzzyMposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Not being sarcastic. The thanks is genuine, and you just need to say "de nada" for working it out.
                     Basically the chances of two babies being born in Brazil of this condition in the same year are almost off the charts.
                     Something is wrong.

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                        lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Yup I agree charts usually have 0 - 100% and not 7k%
                        De nada

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                           lobobrandonposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           Good night - I'm off now it's almost Christmas eve here 1 hour to go

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      Escobanaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Lucky for me I don't want children:-) Guess that makes it all less complicated, seeing the thread below.

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   LeanManposted 12 years ago

   I nearly went there for work as the company I worked for was opening a plant there - but one of the other managers went there ahead of me and was staying in a hotel.... he walked out of the hotel to go to the plant one morning and someone walked up to him in the few yards from the hotel door to the car, put a gun to his head and shot him to take his watch and wallet!!!! Needless to say none of us went there after that!!!!!!!!
   I just hope things have improved in the last 15 years!!!

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   jcalesposted 11 years ago

   It is a place with stark contrasts. In some areas it is as safe and friendly as living in the 60s and 70s (and may feel like it from the neighborhood customs) and big cities like Sao Paulo and Rio so much brazen crime you think you are in a action movie if you make it out alive.
   If in RJ, do not watch RJ news, otherwise you will some of the most horrible crimes you will ever see occurring weekly, sometimes every few days and I grew up in L.A. so I know bad crimes. Rio is very dangerous. If you must go, do not look like a foreigner, dress like locals & your mannerisms. See the tourist sites Pao de acucar, Christo and get out !!
   I am not the only one to say this. A retired soldier from Iraq said the same thing. 
   I have been in and out the country the last 10 yrs. Cear, Fortaleza is nice and so is the southern part.  I do love some parts but feel my Portuguese will never be up to par to communicate the way I want with locals on an intelligent level.
   Boa Sorte amigos

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for all the info! I wasn't really considering a life in city like Sao Paolo. Ubautba to most of the people I talk to is very unknown.
      
      It's a the coast of Sao Paolo and more or less a hidden gem. Popular amongst surfers, 62 hotels in a town of 80.000 people and one beautiful beach after the other.
      
      Easy life, long summers, soft winters and rainy at times because of being in the tropics. In 5 days I'm finally leaving for my first peek of 5 weeks.
      
      TO IZZYM....I totally overlooked your comment 6 months ago...I did indeed have a thread about finding another path alone. Love thought otherwise and my plan to head on alone lasted for a few weeks:-)
      
      After a total of 8 months I am finally going to be reunited with my sweetheart! Love didn't get less...YEAH! Brazil....here I come! I'm totally ready for a new experience!

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   maxoxam41posted 11 years ago

   China, India are booming too! Should you go?

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      My love lives there so....no China and no India to me I'd say....Would you go and follow your loved one if you'd had the chance?

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   maxoxam41posted 11 years ago

   No I would not had I been a woman. Because people change. You have to go there because of a job opportunity or because you always dreamt of Brazil but never for a man!

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The beauty of change is that you can change and grow together as a couple. But I can tell you are not at all a believer of love and it's power to experience both good and bad times.
      
      Read some of my hubs about the other reasons for me to move there and you might understand a little better why. Have a wonderful day:-)

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   Jaynie2000posted 11 years ago

   We have a few acquaintances from Brazil. Though I've always wanted to visit, they make it seem as if it is quite unsafe if you aren't a local and do not know where to go. I realize that one should not generalize their responses, but this information is based on advice from Brazilian citizens. The beaches are beautiful but we've been advised that unless we're accompanied by locals we'd be better off visiting other countries in South America.

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Brazil can be quite unsafe but Brazil is as big as a continent. It really matters where and how you want to live your life.
      
      I am here now, in Brazil and I can only compare Sao Paolo and Ubatuba. Sao Paolo is a dirty and noisy place to live at. Too much people and too much traffic. Of course a lot of violence in the areas where I haven´t been.
      
      Ubatuba is paradise on earth. It´s quiet, easy going life style, no pollution and the fresh air of the sea. I have no doubts in settling down here very soon.
      
      Brazil is different than Europe. It´s a different world with different standards. I am an easy person in terms of adjusting to new places and I feel at home here. If you feel at home in a new world, you normally can build a life little by little.
      
      In Sao Paolo I will never feel at home:-)

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   previewmediagroupposted 11 years ago

   I'm from Brazil and been living in the U.S. for nearly 20 years. Brazil is a lot different compared to what it was when I left. There was a strong resurgence of the middle class over the last couple of years which created a wave of consumption and quick – but somehow disorderly – economic growth. Escalating violence in the early 90's was the main reason why I left the country. According to friends and family, that hasn't changed much since my departure.
   At this point you're probably down in Brazil already and considering that you're moving to the northern coastal area of Sao Paulo state, chances are you'll find the laid back lifestyle you're looking for. Brazil welcomes foreigners like no other country and you'll fell like you're home in no time.
   For all interested in learning more about Brazil, I invite you to visit brazilpreview.net. There you'll find also a survival Portuguese course for travelers so you can enjoy your next trip to Brazil even better.

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      At this point I am in Brazil:-) I´m loving it! My answer above tells you about the differences I´ve seen so far.
      
      I´m certainly interested in the website you posted. My Portuguese goes very well, due to my knowledge of Spanish and speaking Spanish fluently. To build a life here, the first thing I will do though is find myself a good private school for Portuguese classes.
      
      Other than that, building a new life comes easier to me than others. I know how to adapt, I don´t feel lost easily in a foreign country and I try to respect the differences in culture as much as possible.
      
      Thanks for stopping by here! Your information was very valuable:-)

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   awareposted 11 years ago

   Brazil is booming  cus the Olympics is coming there.

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      Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Your absolutely right! Because of this Brazil is not just booming economy wise. Now that I´m here I notice life got more expensive here over the last 4 years.
      
      It´s still cheap to live at the beach if you compare housing prices with Europe or the U.S.A. but Brazilian life is adapting to higher standards.
      
      Yet I´m loving it so far! It really matters where you live and what you look for in your personal life. For now I can´t wait to settle down here:-)

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    Arlene V. Pomaposted 11 years ago

    I visited when Brazil was part of the BRIC nations, and growth was promising at that time.  Visiting is enough.  I am a native Californian, and I will die in California.  I will be taxed to death, but oh, well!  I would not be happy in Brazil.

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       Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Great point! Why live somewhere if you know you won´t be happy there. I should go and visit California one day. Sounds promising;-)
       
       Growth still is going on here in Ubatuba and Brazilian government knows very well how to tax people to death here as well. Lucky for me I´ll bring my safe and steady income with me in Euro´s and they do pretty well these days when you exchange them for Brazilian reales.
       
       Guess I´m lucky AND happy at the same time:-)

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    jacharlessposted 11 years ago

    Ah, Rio, my wife's dream destination, like forever.
    Mine has always been either Russia or Uruguay. Still undecided.
    If -rather when- my web project launches successfully, it is pretty much a guarantee, as I can work from anywhere on the planet, so long as there is an internet connection station {aptly called a hub} within 1,600 kilometers of my macbook.
    
    James

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       Escobanaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Russia seems a little cold in comparison with tropical Brazil:-) and Uruguay I have no image of what so ever:-( Whenever you get the chance with your wife, I´d say: GO!
       
       It´s worth taking a risk once in a while and see what´s behind the horizon....Good luck with your project! Escobana

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