A woman on the $20 bill and other changes to our paper money.

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   Au faitposted 8 years ago

   We should hear the announcement this evening.  Former president Andrew Jackson will be relegated to the flip side of the $20, replaced on the front by the image of Harriet Tubman.  Additionally, the $5 bill will be changed to depict civil rights era leaders.  What do you think about these changes?

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      always exploringposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think it's time for a woman to be represented on our currency, after all we are half of the work force, and we sure do like to spend money. Ha..

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         Say Yes To Lifeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         What's six inches long, has a head on it, and drives women wild?  A thousand dollar bill!  Let's put a woman on that one!  Lol!

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      lions44posted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I'm fine with it.  As long as they did not touch Alexander Hamilton on the $10, I was good.  I thought it was going to be Eleanor Roosevelt.  Don't know why.   Harriet Tubman was a surprise.  But it makes sense.

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         Au faitposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         They're not touching Mr. Hamilton.

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         Say Yes To Lifeposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         Sure, if $20 bills can lead us to freedom...

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      Shyron E Shenkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      It does not make much difference, I would bet that most people could not tell you who is on any of the bills, and I don't have a $20 bill long enough to see who is on it.

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      RJ Schwartzposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Why is it necessary to make a change on our currency?  It's not supposed to be a status symbol or tool for social change - it's a symbol of capitalism and solvency of a nation.  Waste of time.

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         Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Must you be so conservative about everything?
         
         Why is it necessary to keep the currency the same?
         
         It just another of those subconscious reminders that the only people that matter in American History worthy to have his image on our currency are white males.
         
         So, I beg to differ, a little change is not going hurt anyone, after all the money still spends.
         
         If you don't like the look of the new 20's, I will be glad to take them off from your hands!!

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            RJ Schwartzposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I'm just saying that we have bigger fish to fry than something as trivial as this - I never get to see $20's anymore between the wife and kids... Ha ha joke

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               Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Yeah, got the same problem controlling the jaws of my wife's purse, a voracious beast.
               
               Granted it is a small fish, but we can fry it along side the bigger ones.

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         calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Changing the look of currency now and then is one among many anti-counterfeiting measures.  Usually the changes are minor, but there's no reason why they can't put a new face on it every time.  At least it would provide more work for artists.

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   paradigmsearchposted 8 years ago

   You are right. Hit NBC news 32 minutes ago.

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      Au faitposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I think every news agency in the U.S. sends me breaking news alerts.  I knew a couple of hours ago. 
      Now that the decision has been made, I was just wondering how happy people are with it.  Thanks to everyone for answering and I hope more hubbers will share their thoughts.

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   calculus-geometryposted 8 years ago

   Of all the current figures who could be replaced on US paper currency, the most dispensable to me is George Washington.  He was not particularly brilliant or brave and was the antithesis of a self-made man (or woman).  Much of his success can be attributed to luck. There's already a whole state and capital district named after him, as well as the quarter -- the cornerstone of laudromat and vending machine operations.  I don't think he needs the $1 bill on top of all that. How about an important American artist or inventor? Alexander Graham Bell is a non-controversial choice.

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      Paul Kuehnposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You obviously don't  believe in George Washington being the father of the United States.  Have you read about Washington's contributions during the Revolutionary War and the early years of the country?

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         Paul Wingertposted 8 years agoin reply to this

         He is over rated like most of our past "heroes".

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            RJ Schwartzposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Sorry you feel that way, maybe you'd rather the British won the war, eh bloke?

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               PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               We are standing in the way of progress  when we should already be getting change for an undocumented british subject like Ben Arnold on our c notes.  I'd love to see MLK on a new silver  dollar, but landing a Man on the moon and foiling counterfeiters is 2 different things.  ,

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         calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Political and military figures are over-represented on currency.  A country is more than just political acts and battles.  I favor commemorating more artists, writers, and scientists, as other countries do.  I'm not opposed to entertainers and athletes, but I know those would be much more controversial. 
         
         As financial transactions are increasingly electronic and paper currency is used less and less, the proposed changes are insignificant.  It would have had more of an impact to put Tubman on the currency in the 1960s.

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      Will Apseposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Might upset the Scots. Or the Canadians.
      
      Alexander Graham Bell was a Scottish-born scientist, inventor, engineer and innovator who is credited with patenting the first practical telephone. Wikipedia
      Born: March 3, 1847, Edinburgh, United Kingdom
      Died: August 2, 1922, Beinn Bhreagh, Nova Scotia, Canada
      
      Sort of Scottish Canadian.

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         calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         He became a naturalized US citizen at the age of 35 after having lived in the US for a while.  I'm sure Canada, Scotland and the US can share him peacefully.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Since when was he American?  He didn't move to America till he was in his mid-twenties.

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         calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         Why should an immigrant be disqualified?  That sounds like something Trump would say. Bell became a naturalized US citizen in 1882.

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      ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Moronic ,This is about the dumbest  idea I've ever heard , It's the idea that we should tear down  monuments to the greatest humans ever ,   I sure wish Americans would bone up on a history lesson or two ,    Yea  ,lets tear George Washington's monument down and put one up of Dennis Rodman ,   how about the Lincoln memorial , we could put one up  of Millie Vanilli ,    and then there's  that ugly  Susan B Anthony , why not Lady Ga Ga , hey I know .... tear down Ronald Reagans and put one up of  Catlyn  Jenner ,  or maybe  Justin Bieber , 
      Why has America become so jaded  , so imbecilic,  so politically correct about everything except common sense ........ ?
      Hey , Lets put  Fidel Castro  on our American flag !

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         calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         I did not suggest to tear down Washington monument, erase his head from Mt. Rushmore, take him off the quarter, rename Washington state and the capital district.  I suggested to put someone else on the $1 bill.
         
         I think having been a slaveholder should disqualify someone from being on the money nowadays, especially when the US history is long enough to find enough people who did not own slaves who made important contributions to society.  You can call me a pinko commie PC hippy dippy liberal fruitcake all you want, this is after all just a forum for our irrelevant opinions.

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            ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

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               PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

               Wasn't Tubman a pro gun toting republican christian that hated democrats?

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                  Say Yes To Lifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  She could not have been a republican - neither blacks nor women could vote in those days.

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                  Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  She hated slave-holders like Andrew Jackson, especially when they used their political power to criminalize attempts to end slavery.

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                  Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  The thing is that you can't seem to understand is that it's OK to judge people on what they do rather than on their race or political or religious affiliations. It's not like she fights to suppress people's human rights, to make her religion law, to make sure people don't have to be sane to own guns, or to gut textbooks of science content like modern republicans do. She didn't use politics and rhetoric to hurt people or to whip up racism or religious bigotry.
                  
                  She did incredible things and was an amazing woman.

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                     PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                     It's amazing that you can extrapolate so much, in such detail, in such a partisan way based upon an internet meme and a historical figure.  How would you define rhetoric?

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                        Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                        How is it partisan to judge a person on what they do rather than on their race, religion, or political party? You made it partisan by acting like people now dislike people for being Republicans, Christians, or gun owners because of their affiliations and what they own rather than because they are doing things upsetting or harmful to others. Why would we dislike Harriet Tubman if she wasn't doing anything objectionable and claiming it was part of her religion?
                        
                        You stated what you wrote as if people should care that she was a Christian Republican who used guns rather than caring about what kind of human being she was or what she did. I've felt she was an amazing human being from the first time I encountered her in a history book decades ago. Girls notice things like intelligent badass women fighting against enormously powerful enemies on a side they can see is clearly in the right in their history books at school. You should probably make some effort to learn about her before you bash the idea of a freaking HERO's image being put on money.

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                           Say Yes To Lifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           BTW, President Lincoln, who ended slavery, was a Republican.

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                              Credence2posted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              One Hundred Fifty years ago 'Republican' had a different, totally different orientation, Lincoln would not associate himself with 'today's' GOP.

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                           PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           What I posted was a current internet meme.  The gist of it and I may not remember it exactly, was along the lines of " the awkward silence when liberals realize Tubman was a pro gun republican etc."   I suspect that to a republican its a jab at liberals who in " their" estimation like to get on their soapboxes and claim they are on some moral high road and suggest everyone that ain't liberal is bigoted etc etc while making their emotionally charged sweeping generalizations about whole groups themselves. Now for you to say I am quote bashing some hero is shown to be completely false and unsubstantiated. Would you like to know how I actually feel about Tubman being on the 20$, since you only think you know?

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                           calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                           Kylyssa,
                           
                           PhoenixV's original comment was a tongue-in-cheek joke that you are taking literally. 
                           
                           I know you have said before on the forum that due to your ASD you have trouble telling when people are being serious or joking, so before you write long-winded angry responses to people you should assess if the comment is serious or a joke.  If you can't tell, then just ask, or don't reply at all.  Assuming all comments are serious and replying as such is not a good way to go about things.

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                              PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                              Very considerate of you to mediate. Its starting to appear that stating truths for instance calling someone a Christian, or Republican is automatically and inherently a put down in some circles, like calling them a bad name.  Tubman was a Christian that carried a weapon at times and Did brave things. Fought against slavery, fought for the right to vote etc..etc.  I would be all for such a Christian  of such significant historical accomplishments, because those are the beliefs i adhere to regardless if those beliefs are even relevant to others.  But I am not for it.  Not because she deserving, is a woman or Christian etc etc, but because I believe that currency, should remain as unchanged as possible. I worry about the confidence,of an ever changing currency. The stuff is already starting to look like board game money.

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                                 calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                 Changing the design every now and then is a basic anti-counterfeiting measure, along with adding other security features.  If the design never changed,  the market would be flooded with fakes and that causes all sorts of problems.

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                                    paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                    I'll add to that...
                                    
                                    The new $20 bill also has bumps in it for the vision impaired. They ought to do that with all the bills. Different denomination, different corner or such. That would really be obnoxious for the counterfeiters, especially the ones "bleaching" the smaller denominations and then using the blanks to print larger ones.

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                                       Say Yes To Lifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                                       EXCELLENT IDEA!!!

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            always exploringposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I agree with calculus completely.

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            Kathryn L Hillposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            ARE YOU OKAY?

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      Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I say keep George Washington and get rid of Andrew Jackson on everything. There's no need to celebrate a guy responsible for attempted genocide and the Trail of Tears who also kept hundreds of  people captive and enslaved.

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   Paul Kuehnposted 8 years ago

   Making changes to who is shown on currency doesn't surprise me at all.  It's all part of the liberal agenda to marginalize the achievements of white men just like the rewriting of history.

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      Paul Wingertposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There it is! The stupidest thing I read all day!

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         IslandBitesposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         +10000!

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   psycheskinnerposted 7 years ago

   Bell would be controversial because it is well passed time a woman got on the currency.  I am in favor of the change.

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      paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Women have already owned over half the money for years. So it does indeed make sense to put their pictures on it.

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   paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

   

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      Au faitposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Didn't know it was necessary.  Thought everyone knew who she was.  But why does race matter?

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         paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

         For the same reason her being a woman matters. It's a first. As the anti-discrimination laws used to say, it's a twofer.
         
         And for that matter, there are probably a lot of good 'ol boys in the southern states throwing full beer cans through liqueur store windows as we speak, deja vu first Obama election.

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   FatFreddysCatposted 7 years ago

   The U.S. should take after Canada. They put cool wildlife stuff like bears 'n' beavers on their coins/currency.

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      paradigmsearchposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      We could put this one on our 50-cent piece.
      
      

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   word55posted 7 years ago

   It's a good idea to accept the changes. A change is usually a good thing and more Americans should be recognized. Doesn't John F. Kennedy deserve recognition? I even think Bill Clinton and Barack Obama deserve such honors in the future as well.

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   paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

   And for our dollar bill...
   
   

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      Say Yes To Lifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I understand there's a certain way you can fold the back of a $20 bill, and it will look like the World Trade Center on fire.

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    paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

    Meanwhile... Want to know about Harriet Tubman? Here it is: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won … e-20-bill/ Pretty much shoots down any criticisms.

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    Live to Learnposted 7 years ago

    It's classic. Put the face of an abolitionist on what we have become slaves to.

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       Say Yes To Lifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       LOL!!!

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    paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

    About the only squawk I have about the currency changes is when they made the nickel and quarter look alike. The small difference in size isn't sufficient for some of us lamer folks.

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    tirelesstravelerposted 7 years ago

    I have been looking at my money collection.  American money is looking more like Euro's. I was actually surprised at the similarity.
    What money looks like is all relative. If you look at the exchange rate of pound for dollars and euro's for dollars you will see the American dollar isn't worth much.

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    ahorsebackposted 7 years ago

    Hey I know , lets go all the way with this political  correctness  crap and put Prince on all paper bills ,   Hey lets put  Dennis Rodman on all  of our  coins  !,  How about this  , lets put pedophiles   on all  children's book covers , rapists on  women's pocket books   and what about transgender porn covers on all of the public bathroom doors  ,   I mean  , isn't political correctness about honoring all of us ?
    
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       Kylyssaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       With people like Andrew Jackson on money already it's silly to freak out over anybody they choose. You think he was  superior to Harriet Tubman? Was it his lust for genocide and near success at it, his paying for hundreds of people to be kidnapped and forced to work for him, or his fierce fighting to criminalize talking about abolition that you love so much? Or was it the way he picked duels with men who said things he didn't like and killed them? If such a criminal warlord lived today in another country, we'd send out drones to kill him for the safety of humanity.
       
       You think Andrew Jackson was a being superior to Harriet Tubman and you class her with pedophiles. You've said as much where all the world can see it. Your life would be so much better if you let go of your hate and learned that murder, slave-holding, and genocide are evil and being black and female are not.

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       calculus-geometryposted 7 years agoin reply to this

       Jackson is still going to be on the $20, just on the back.
       
       If this is how you react to Harriet Tubman, how are you going to react when they unveil the new $666 bill with Ted Bundy? Pace yourself.

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          ahorsebackposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Its just more of the same from the same boring P.C. crowd , I got one more for you though  , Prince just died so lets put his face on  prescription drug bottles , what better way to get more people addicted to  drugs , No  ................Why....... Not let's be fair ?

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    awareposted 7 years ago

    Standing liberty gold and silver coins. Women have long been on currency

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    paradigmsearchposted 7 years ago

    "Jackson never wanted to be on the $20 bill anyway"
    
    http://www.salisburypost.com/2016/04/23 … ll-anyway/

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