Hubs Removed

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   moonlakeposted 16 years ago

   I had two messages on my Hubs today so I took all of my Hubs down. I'm not going to fight to keep a hub going. I have seen some terrible hubs and they go on and on with never being taken off.
   My hubs were
   Do You Think Canada has better Health care? The Message was.
   This Hub does not conform to the HubPages community standard of quality. I guess they didn't like it because it was my opinion.
   The other one was
   Beanie Babies for Our Troops
   The message was
   DUPLICATE: Our system has detected a high number of duplicates of this Hub’s content on the Web.
   I couldn't find other hubs that were just like this one.

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      relacheposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Notice the message read "on the web."  It means the automated checker was run on your content and it turned up as identical to lots of other internet pages, not other Hubs.  HubPages makes it really clear that they want unique and original content, so to complain you had that when clearly you didn't is rather pointless.

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      Stacie Naczelnikposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Maddie wrote this in another hub:
      
      "Since I've been hired for a job that didn't exist before, and was covered by several other team members in their spare moments, there's a large amount of backlog--hubs that have been in violation for months, even up to a year or more, without being flagged.  And of course, I come in and start digging through the backup, and I look like the bad guy, coming in and imposing the rules where things have been let slide.
      
      What you need to realize is that, even if your hubs have been up for months without setting off a flag, that doesn't mean it doesn't break our rules, or that you shouldn't have to bring them into compliance when asked.  Nor do a large number of flags in a short period of time mean that I "have it in for you," or "don't like you," as has been implied on this and several other threads.  It simply means I'm working through the long queue of things that have piled up over the last few months, as HubPages rapidly expands."
      
      My suggestion: send an email to the hubpages mailbox for further clarification of why your hub was considered sub-standard, etc.  Just because you have seen other terrible hubs doesn't mean you can get away with breaking the rules too.  Maddie wrote that there is a lot of backlog, so don't be surprised if these "terrible" hubs start disappearing.

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      terrygposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Welcome to hubpages!!

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   moonlakeposted 16 years ago

   Then tell me why I have counted at least 10 hubs of Sicko their all still there.
   You don't have to be rude.

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      Marisa Wrightposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      Gamergirl, I have to admit I preferred your old hairstyle too!   But a chrome dome obviously makes you feel good, so go for it!

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   Can't you take responsibility for your own deeds?
   And nobody is rude to you, btw

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   moonlakeposted 16 years ago

   Well, I'm glad I'm out of it. I was new at this and really didn't understand all of it. I made the mistake I guess and didn't realize I had. I really didn't see the web thing. My eyes aren't the best and sometimes I miss things. I guess I didn't realize the whole web was checked. I would think anything anyone puts on a hub is somewhere on the web.  Of course, I take responsibility for my own deeds but didn't realize I had done something criminal.

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      Inspirepubposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      If you open up a text capsule and type your own words into it, you will usually find that those words don't appear anywhere else on the web. It is only when you copy and paste that you find yourself with duplicate content.
      
      There are plenty of places on the internet where you can go to copy and paste material.
      
      There are very few places which will require that you produce high-quality, original content. That means those places get more and more credibility with the search engines over time.
      
      While it is a bit more work in the beginning, you will find the traffic that comes from the search engines ranking HubPages well as a domain makes it worth your while to put in the effort. My Hubs often hit the first page of Google or Yahoo within days of being published.
      
      Jenny

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   Mishaposted 16 years ago

   LOL you didn't do anything criminal. Just fix your hubs so they fit the rules of this place, and you are good to go

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   sanssecretposted 16 years ago

   Of course the information we type will be somewhere on the web. Presumably, that's where most of the research that goes into the hubs comes from.
   
   But Inspire is right. You need to put that information into your own words. Make it original so it becomes yours as opposed to someone else's.
   
   Why would folks come to Hubpages if they can get the exact same information 'word for word' somewhere else? You need to add value to whatever you find before you post it here.

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      embitcaposted 16 years agoin reply to this

      It's not completely circular. There's also plenty of us writing hubs based upon our own experiences and expertises.

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   lady luckposted 16 years ago

   Yes copying and pasting is bad when you publish anything/ anywhere.
   
   Plus, it will probably also tell you that you have duplicate content if you take a long of time summarzing what everyone else says on the topic without being creative and original.

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   Uninvited Writerposted 16 years ago

   I think I may have read that hub about Health Care in Canada. As far as I recall it was only 1 paragraph, I think they expect hubs to have more content.

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   DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

   Word of advice to new hubbers.  READ THE RULES.  i spent most of yesterday defending myself only to find out that I was wrong because I didn't read the instructions.
   
   I hate hall monitor people who take it upon themselves to police us too.
   
   This is not the case.  The people you feel are being rude are actually just trying to keep this tiny community together and don't like people who do what they want and then bitch about it.
   
   You should check the thread.  When hubbers spam. 
   
   I thought they were ganging up on me but not if you step back you get the right perspective.

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    gamergirlposted 16 years ago

    Let's put it this way:
    
    Google allows you to search for up to 32-word long strings of text at a time.  If, in THIRTY TWO words (this does not include words like "the" or "a" "and" "or") your text does not deviate from the text presented by another source, then you're doing something wrong.  Research everything you want from the internet.  If you want a good Hubscore, take what you've researched and make it your own.
    
    It's not hard.  I've done it over 100 times.  I always check my information versus the intartuberwebernets and make sure I'm not out and out wrong about things which are not based in opinion.

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       terrygposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       I'll have what she's having.

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    mroconnellposted 16 years ago

    I've been largely impressed with how careful the staffers are about flagging things.  I had a hub that linked to my business website three times so they tapped me on the shoulder.  I lessened that to a single link and even though all my content was sort of about my business, they realized it wasn't commercial and it was really interesting so they let me keep the hub up.
    
    And I think a lot of people flag my ironic marketing article hubs because they think I'm really marketing crappy products and hit the flag button before they can realize I am satirizing bad marketing writers.  But none of the Hub Staffers have ever bothered me.  It seems like they're very conscientious and looking for good content.

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    moonlakeposted 16 years ago

    To accuse me of trying to get away with breaking the rules too is absolutely ridiculous. I did no such thing and I didn't copy and paste.

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       LdsNana-AskMormonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       moonlake -
       
       Hang in there:-) 
       
       Again, try not to let this glitch get to you too much...  I am still a student here; and working on understanding the 'way things work' around here. 
       
       As we have discussed previous, computers are not always right, nor are people... but what HubPages requires - is for reasons that are meant to benefit all of us here on HubPages.
       
       I personally understand the frustration (lol) that can happen when we are learning the ropes here.  I have concluded, that on any Hub I have and almost at any time - a flag can fly!  Now, I don't panic.  I try to understand 'why' or 'what' may have triggered the flag - and especially when I have done - at least what I think I am supposed to be doing???
       
       Communication in these forums, like this... stinks.  People IMHO, tend to come across more stern that they would if you were face to face.  I know that I do for sure:-)
       
       Hubbers who teach here, have been patient with me as I learn.  They are here to do the same for you too.
       
       Hang in there.  Figure out what needs to be done and apply it.  See what happens from there... 
       
       As I said earlier to you, HP is fair.  This has been my experience, after beating my head against a wall once or twice here.  And... it will probably happen again!  LOL
       
       tMDg
       LdsNana-AskMormon
       
       *if you stick with it here, you will be glad that you did:-)

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    Maddie Ruudposted 16 years ago

    You get that automated "duplicate" email message when there is an extremely large number (ie, hundreds or thousands) of copies of the exact content elsewhere on the web.  The probability that you and hundreds of other people wrote the exact same words in the exact same order on the same subject is about as close to 0 as you can get.

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    gamergirlposted 16 years ago

    *takes the whiteout to her response as the Awesome Maddie has spoken.*

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       Maddie Ruudposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Why do you need whiteout?  Nothing you said contradicted what I said... I was merely adding to it, not correcting
       
       As Kathryn's also pointed out above, computers are not the be-all, end-all.  If you feel that your hub was wrongly flagged as duplicated, you can submit it for review or shoot an email to the team box, and I'll manually check it for you.

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    marisuewritesposted 16 years ago

    Mistake Number One - don't take it so personal.  It's a learning process...we're all tryiing to help...but original material is a lot of work, so some of us get tweaked a bit if someone else doesn't submit orignial work.  Trust yourself to write something that others want to read...right from the heart.
    
    No one is out to get you...but rules are there for the protection of the process and the writers.
    My suggestion is to just not "get huffy" -- smile, and continue to write.  It'll work itself out.
    
    I did a google search and found several of my hubs on the first page or two...so it will pay off...give it time and write from your own head.  You can do it.   Hang in there and step out of the temper.   Marisue

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    Kathryn,
    
    I liked your old avatar, and I like your new avatar even more Such a cute nana - I really can't resist a beautiful woman

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       LdsNana-AskMormonposted 16 years agoin reply to this

       Hi Misha -
       
       Why..... thank you:-)  So, are you to be our new avatar fashion critic here on HP? 
       
       Maybe you could write a Hub on the 'best' avatars on HP... hey, not a bad idea!  But, not for me, you do it! LOL
       
       I personally love gamegirls avatar.  It makes you stop and take notice of her, and want to know what a gal, who would be so raw - has to say.   Most likely, one would expect raw honesty from her....
       
       gamegirl - in my book, your avatar rocks!  Apparently, you are not playing to guys like Misha! LOL
       
       Also, your post has great suggestions.  I am constantly trying to whittle my sentences down.  I am a major rambler and must learn to say what I need to say in much shorter sentences.  I love your advice here and will work on applying these rules:-)
       
       But Misha, nonetheless - every lady enjoys a nice compliment:-)
       
       I hope moonlake hangs in there... I did and I am really glad!  We 'dummies' must understand that it is alright to be a student. LOL
       
       Kathryn

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    gamergirlposted 16 years ago

    Awww, Misha, you don't like my avatar? 

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    Mishaposted 16 years ago

    Charlotte, I liked your old one way better. The color of your current one always reminds me of emmabalmer's job

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    gamergirlposted 16 years ago

    Well, I didn't want to parrot you, lady!  *giggles*
    
    Basically, what I said was that if you're in doubt, email the Hubpages team.  That's kind of one of the things they're there for.  Every hub not posted is another opportunity for ad revenue lost.
    
    That said, I never accused the OP of anything.  I was clarifying the whole copy/paste thing to make it -very- clear. 
    
    One of the things I learned coming out of the Hublove competition is that some really amazing information can be packed into a hub between 300-400 words.  It may feel like a lot of work, but really it comes down to about five paragraphs (if you follow the rule that a paragraph is about five or six sentences.) 
    
    So, like I said before, check your own writing versus some google searches.  If you have a string of words more than, say, six or seven words long that is exactly the same as someone else on the Web, rewrite that whole sentence.  Originality is REWARDED here!
    
    The short version:  Check your content before you publish it and you should never have to worry about being flagged for duplicate content.  Write hubs that are over 300 words, because a hub even decently written and 300 or more words long will draw in your reader. 
    
    The ultimate goal is to have a well-written, comprehensive article which is easy to read, easy to understand, and keeps your reader's attention.  So long as you're not regurgitating up the same old stuff everyone else on the web is saying, you've got it in the bag.
    
    *hugs everyone and dashes back to work*

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    DJ Funktualposted 16 years ago

    Checkmate!
    
    Welcome to the Jungle
    We got fun and games
    We got everything you want
    and HONEY WE KNOW THE NAMES.

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