Should the striking Chicago teachers all be fired?

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   Cassie Smithposted 11 years ago

   Should the striking Chicago teachers all be fired?
   
   First they are lying, they are not striking for better schools they are striking for more benefits. increase in pay, and making it harder  to terminate bad teachers.  Second, according to a US Dept of Education report, 79% of Chicago 8th graders are not proficient in reading, which basically means that these teacher suck at their job.  The union promises their member votes and Dems kiss their ass.  The children's education is their last consideration.

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   Josakposted 11 years ago

   We have some of the worst paid teachers in the first world, the worst benefits for teachers in the first world and they have to deal with some of the toughest schools in the whole country. In my view they deserve a pay raise. I also think they are partly striking about how the schools are being run which needs to change and they have every right to demand job security.
   
   Oh we also have some of the worst teacher to student ratios in the world. Frankly people willing to deal with kids in the tougher areas of Chicago deserve a medal and I am sure they are hard working people just trying to get by like everyone else.

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      Attikosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The average pay of a Chicago public schools teacher is over $70,000. That's not poor compensation by any standard. Their demands are a 16% increase at a time incomes are declining, and permanent job security. Insane.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Not at all true, adjusted median rate of pay with benefit comparison shows that Chicago teachers are being paid just over 50 000 (they get very little pension compensation or insurance compensation) and they are now being asked to do longer days.

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   lburmasterposted 11 years ago

   Teachers don't make enough. Their median annual wages come out to $33,000. My cousin is a biology teacher and his wife makes more than he does as a waitress. However, I'm also not happy about the Democrates reactions to the teacher pay cuts and how Obama is advancing the programs of most computers in the government system. Note how they don't comment on how much is going into that project. It is probably where the teacher's pay is now going. That the teacher's are not good at their jobs or that the parents are ignorant as to how their children are being educated. I've met homeschoolers who at 8th grade are inventing apps and taking college courses because their parents focused on their child's education. It is sad that the parents in Chicago are not watching their child's learning and trying to make them succeed in life.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Obama has nothing to do with it. This is a State problem.

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      lburmasterposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      He is commenting about it, as is Romney.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yes they are. But it is still a State issue. I sure wouldn't want to negotiate with R. Immanuel. He's quite stubborn.  LOL

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   JThomp42posted 11 years ago

   No. It would be impossible to replace that many teachers. I say go back to negotiations and meet in the middle for the sake of the children. And to take up for the teachers they teach with the means they are provided in which much of the time comes out of their own pockets. All workers of the States are underpaid. Police, Firemen, Teachers, etc.

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   d.williamposted 11 years ago

   You apparently did not like my answer to your question.  This is typical for conservatives to deny, dismiss and attack anyone who does not believe the way they do.  Shows good character.

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I delete any answer that makes attacks.  I don't care what you write or that you disagree with me.  You've been warned.

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      JThomp42posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Yet your whole question is an attack on the teachers and the Dem's? Believe me I'm not a Dem. at all.

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      d.williamposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      you contradict yourself.  Your question is an attack on teachers and the educational system as seen through the eyes of an outsider passing judgments unfairly.  Exactly what are you warning me about?

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Learn to know the difference between a criticism and an attack.  When union members strike it's to improve their situation not anything else.  A 79% low proficiency rating for Chicago youngsters shows their ineffectiveness.

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   randslamposted 11 years ago

   If you fire all the teachers, who's going to teach your kids?
   
   A strike is a legal action to increase the poor situation of employees...we know teachers are underpaid...it's classic capitalism at it's best.
   
   The sad proficiency ratings of students is not a slam on teachers...it's a slam on the students.  Obviously, they aren't inspired to learn--but what with all of the technology out there now--are kids a little distracted?  I would think that this day and age may be the most difficult time for youngsters--too many distractions.
   
   It's tough enough on adults to keep up with everything...let alone an undeveloped mind which is only suppose to be preparing itself for the three "R"s.
   
   Firing teachers of a union is illegal.  When Reagan fired the Air Traffic controllers he messed up aviation for a decade--that was illegal--and 9/11 could be co-related to that resultant firing, I'm sure.
   
   Unions are there for the little guy...to help him or her get a better salary.  Let the teachers march...let them negotiate...let them learn.  But do not fire them--they love your kids--let them teach.

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   austinhealyposted 11 years ago

   If you'd stop foaming at the mouth for a minute or two, you could ask yourself the question : would I like to be a teacher ? I know I could never be one. This is probably one of the most difficult jobs to perform, and for very little reward, I might add, other than the satisfaction of shaping the future of children. If teachers go on strike, it is not for fun, it is because they have exhausted every other way of negociating. And by the way, going on strike is a perfectly legal way of voicing your discontent, if you live in a democratic nation that is. And  what is wrong about teachers, or anybody else for that matter, to want to improve their life ?

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      What a load of crap.  Nobody forced them to be teachers and they can leave.  Teachers should be assessed for effectiveness just like any other job.  If they do a crappy job then they are hurting the futures of children. Kick out the bad teachers.

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      austinhealyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Better still : why don't you line them up againt a wall and shoot them. Teachers do not determine the policies, the schoolboard does. True, some are better than others, but this is true for any segment of society

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Again, another load of crap.  Teachers are not above criticism.  You putting them up on a pedestal doesn't help anybody.

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