A big thank you to all my religious friends

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    Crazdwriterposted 15 years ago

    I get on here and what is the first thing I see...Mark stating that he isn't going to interact anymore? But...MARK! You have to stay. Forget the religious idiots and stay with us, your real friends and talk to us on other forums at least...don't leave!!!!

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    CabinGirlposted 15 years ago

    Ok listen up to the lowly Cabin Girl and I know I aint too bright but I know when you keep pouring petrol on a fire it stays alight.

    Mark was right,  he walked away and left these sad losers with nothing but their crazy religious views. Thing is if they are so happy with their Bibles and their crap why do they need your feedback.

    Because their sad lives need you to feed their pathetic little lives. So be smart like Mark, let my comment be the last reply to this thread and sit back and laugh as they get no replies.

    Can you all do that, hands up if ya can. I so knew you guys could, you religious freaks take a song break !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZm1TstpjQ

    1. nicomp profile image59
      nicompposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Tolerance take a holiday. Sigh.

  3. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    What? You are leaving the forums Mark? yikes

    That's quite a surprise really. Well, time goes, and things change I guess. It was nice while it lasted though, thank you for all the fun I had fighting shoulder to shoulder with you, against you, and watching your fights! Quite educational experience, too. smile

    Good luck in your endeavors! smile

    1. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      He's only leaving religion, but I'm sure you knew this, being so close together big_smile

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        sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        lol Mark left religion a long time ago. smile

        1. tantrum profile image59
          tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          lol that was funny lol you know what I meant lol

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            sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah I know but I am going for the sarcasm award. big_smile

            1. Misha profile image66
              Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              I bet you'll get it shortly, Your Majesty smile

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                sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!smile

            2. tantrum profile image59
              tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                So there's ! ? I will fight with you for the 1st place ! big_smile

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                sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                lol, your goin' down hot shot! lol

      2. Misha profile image66
        Mishaposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Nope. He told only Milla, they are closer lol

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    CabinGirlposted 15 years ago

    Sandra get's my vote eyeball, ya missed me smile

  5. Randy Godwin profile image60
    Randy Godwinposted 15 years ago

    Well, I've only been on hubpages for six months but have witnessed many so called religious experts come here to challenge Mark much as a wannabe gunslinger does to a famous sharpshooter.  As far as I know no one has been able to get their gun out of the holster against him before being plugged through the heart.

    I do understand him getting tired of talking to the religious nuts which seem to multiply like flies lately.  Besides, there is no point in matching wits with the witless.  Good luck Mark, you're still number one on the "smoffer's" list.

    1. earnestshub profile image71
      earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      you are right Randy. Mark is king of the snoffers!
      I have no fear that he will leave hubpages, he like many are getting really tired of the zealots on the religious forums, and he may stop posting there.
      There are lots of good religious people on these forums prepared to debate, but a few loonies make the threads long and boring. They do not want to discuss, just preach. smile

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        cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        is that like a sneetch? those are cool...especially the star-bellied ones.

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          sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          sneetch.  lol lol

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            cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            hehe yikes

            except the surface temp is 3,000-plus degrees. i bet Satan has something to do with that roll

      2. Randy Godwin profile image60
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I agree about the good religious people here on hubpages, but the nuts seem to keep them from joining in the discussions very much.  I suspect they do not want to be compared to the loonies if they do.  Many people I love are religious but they respect one's right to make up their own minds about religion and truth.  I respect these folks by their actions, not their faith.  Some of the kooks hurt themselves and their religions way more than they help.  Who would want to be like them?

        1. earnestshub profile image71
          earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          It is pretty easy to see who people are. I read the hubs, and watch the posts like most here do.
          The old saying "say what you will you can but say who you are" applies. Some people like Mark and many religious people too, set out to help others here. That is one sure way to sort out the wheat from the chaff! smile

  6. Jerami profile image59
    Jeramiposted 15 years ago

    Life nessitates (did I made up a word?) the existence of extreme opinions in order to adjust the middle ground to proper perspective. For their efforts we should appreciate everyone on both sides of every issue. Mark ,,,keep being the best you that you can be.   sorry ...  Gotta say it.... bless ya

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    sandra rinckposted 15 years ago

    I think right now that Mark has popped in to see what people are saying and it must be driving him crazy to not respond.  Always a better person than me.  Hi Mark! big_smile

  8. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    I bet right now he is sleeping - unless insomnia has him smile

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Well I thought about that after I posted but I am sure he stopped in at some point today... or yesterday... wait.  I have no idea what day it is.  What time is it there in VA?

  9. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    7:26 PM Sept 16 Wed tongue

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      sandra rinckposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      1:30pm here tongue 16th

  10. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    I guess Mark is 00:33 AM, 17th smile

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    sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

    Well Mark I didn't get to know you well but you have a very loyal following. You asked me not to hide so I sat down and figured out the picture thing because I believe what I believe. I'm not ashamed I'm not a great writer and I'm sure I can do some things better than you. I'm never affraid to admit when I'm wrong and I'll stand by my own evaluations of a topic. I just want to make one thing perfectly clear, I would never go behind somebodies back to get at them. With me it's head to head, period. Take it for what it's worth, I wish you well.

  12. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Pro 1:32 For they are simpletons who turn away from me-to death. They are fools, and their own complacency will destroy them.
    Pro 1:33 But all who listen to me will live in peace and safety, unafraid of harm."

    You post threats from your own religion, then somehow see them as sane! What a strange mindset! smile
    Any entity worth worshiping would not have to threaten like a demented child do get obedience! lol
    The other obvious thing, is that any entity worthy of worship would not need it! lol lol

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
      quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      GOD needs nothing.....you need everything from HIM to exist.
      He has no needs and would not ask you for anything.
      Do you need anything from your children?

      1. Randy Godwin profile image60
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        I was under the impression he asks for people to believe he exists.

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
          quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          And your source for that is ???

          1. Randy Godwin profile image60
            Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            The nuts on this forum.

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
              quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              Did not hear that from me.
              He asks for nothing.
              Being needless, why would He?

              Kings do not need anything, they command and it is done.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image60
                Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                Not all of them, some are deposed and killed by their subjects.

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                  quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Was I talking about a human king or are you.........?????????????

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image60
                    Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                    You tell me, you used the plural kings.

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        cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        actually God has a whole laundry list of things he requires of his 'children', beginning with those ten commandments. the Bible is crammed with all kinds of scenarios where God got pi$$ed-off at people who didn't obey him and he smited them good.

        some of it was premeditated too - it took Noah 40 "days" amd 40 "nights" to build that ark...

        1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
          quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

          Requirements from GOD to follow instruction are not needs of GOD, or are you that naive?
          If I tell my son to take out the trash, it is a requirement FROM me TO him...I do not need him to do it, I can do it myself...and if he does not follow the instructions, then he has made a choice to deal with the consequences...and the bigger the refusal, the larger the reaping.

          I don't need my son to do anything as I could do it long before he came along.....he on the other hand "NEEDS" to follow instructions for his benefit, not mine.

          And NO, I do not ask my son for anything.

          "it took Noah 40 "days" amd 40 "nights" to build that ark..."

          Really, boy he was fast. lol....rethink that.

          1. Randy Godwin profile image60
            Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            He must have been fast because those dinosaurs took up a lot of room.

            1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
              quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

              None were on the ark.

              1. Randy Godwin profile image60
                Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                You mean the believers who said the dinosaurs were on the ark were wrong?

                1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
                  quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Is that really a question?

                  1. Randy Godwin profile image60
                    Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                    Hence, the question mark.

  13. tuneless profile image60
    tunelessposted 15 years ago

    I think somebody needs a hug!

  14. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    LOL Here we go again, in the memory of Mark Knowles lol

    1. earnestshub profile image71
      earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Yep! Sort of a "goodbye MArk" from the religious forums! (Not hubpages) smile

  15. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 15 years ago

    Oh the drama of it all smile

    Who needs the Soaps when we have 'The Forum' lol

    What the hell happened to goodfriendiam and Badco? ,another goodbye and/or more alter egos'

    Think Im off to bed ,maybe Im hallucenating lol

  16. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    No, I think people should pay you no mind. You are a bigot as are all dangerously psychotic fundamentalists. smile

  17. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    I remember a rascist telling someone to go back where they came from in Australia .... the guy he was talking to was aboriginal, and he was an Immigrat from Italy! I laughed then, as I do now.... lol!

  18. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    If gunfire does start in the USA it will be from the religious. smile

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
      quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Muslims no doubt.

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      cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this
      1. earnestshub profile image71
        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        That link is a religious indictment on it's own! lol

  19. AEvans profile image77
    AEvansposted 15 years ago

    I come back to this thread and I do not understand where the love is, as A christian I have not ever seen so much anger in so many Christian believers? Why? What is with all of the name calling? Pointing fingers? Teaching understanding? Embracing? No wonder the non-believers or some who may have believed look away it saddens my heart and every last person on here is a great person. I guess I am naive' or maybe it is just that I simply love people, there thoughts, who they are and I understand. There was a time when I believed as a child and then stopped believing because of these exact things. If I had not been lead back by someone who understood the real words of God and if all of the miracles in my life did not happen I myself would have felt the same way as some of the people do on here. All I am saying is God is Love and to the Christians who are pointing there fingers and screaming please stop! Guide people so that they seek understanding do not make them think all of us are horrible and nuts if you did this then maybe they would stop mocking, calling names and maybe just maybe they would listen to what we know until then they will close there books and truly after these last few days I cannot say that I blame them. I am ready for the backlashing so go ahead because I can take it and I know that is not what Jesus would do. smile

    1. mobilephone guide profile image61
      mobilephone guideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      they're just stupid, arrogant and what not. humans are still the same no matter what we believe in. human traits remain the same.

      well, i do believe that atheism could bring more open mindedness to the world and by time, religion won't be necessary. but that's just my guess because that's just drawing another line. right now the world is heavily influenced by religion, provoking it will make it even stronger.

      1. AEvans profile image77
        AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        (((Big Hugs)) at least someone looks at my persepctive and provoking it can make it stronger but having people percieve us as horrible people isn't good either all of us need to just get along. smile

  20. Misha profile image66
    Mishaposted 15 years ago

    Ah, Julianna, we all know you are a wonderful human being. Let them, they are just exposing their own dirt, those who can see - will see, others will not hear you either. smile

    1. AEvans profile image77
      AEvansposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        You are so sweet for saying that if only they could get along but I guess as we both know it is not going to be possible. sad

  21. Randy Godwin profile image60
    Randy Godwinposted 15 years ago

    Racism is still alive and well here in the deep south.  So are nutty religious folk.  Strange how the two often go hand and hand.  Two of the bravest people I ever knew were the first black students to attend the local high school.  I'm sure neither of the two young men got much sleep the night before school started. I often wonder how I escaped being just like the other people down here because it was a way of life to be prejudiced against black people.

    I don't know why I'm writing this, I guess Earnest's response reminded me of why I dislike racism so much.  I've seen to much of it in my lifetime.

  22. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Nah. Religion is on the way out.
    They found another rock planet the other day outside our tiny solar system. Answers are coming daily that will create more empirical proof pointing in another direction. smile

    1. mobilephone guide profile image61
      mobilephone guideposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      only if it weren't so hot.

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    SirDentposted 15 years ago

    Well, it seems Mark cast out a line and  got quite a catch. See you around Mark.

  24. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    I do not know one person who would speak badly of you AEvans. You do not provoke animosity anywhere on forums. smile I think it a great shame that extremists make these forums pretty worthless, and I understand why Mark has had enough. smile

  25. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Yes, he pleads then threatens every vile thing you could imagine. Tiny little crazy god! smile

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      cosetteposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      i hate to say this but that sounds like PMS.

      1. earnestshub profile image71
        earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        lol

  26. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    Because his wife will not move until lunatics like you lose it and start shooting people. He explained it before. You should try reading first! lol

  27. yoshi97 profile image59
    yoshi97posted 15 years ago

    Mark leaves the religious forum, so in his honor we all have one big bonfire ... hmmm

    For those who wanted to see Mark leave, I guess one can easily see the effect ... no difference ... as the divide still remains. Just like politics, religion has a left wing and a right wing, and the debates will go on forever, so long as we have those who want to see it continue.

    Who wins when someone like Mark leaves the religious forum? Nobody, as it remains the same.

    Who loses ... we all do. Now, I'm not saying Mark wasn't controversial or stubborn, but I always found those traits funny and admirable.

    It's fitting that a eulogy be given in his departure, and I would like to start it off by saying that, while Mark wasn't always loved by all in this forum, he also wasn't hated by all either.

    Many of the things he said caused people to think. Some (like me)  always welcomed the chance to broaden our minds, while others feared any view that didn't fit in with their own.

    Those who pushed Mark away can hang their heads in shame ... You were powerless to lead a sheep into your pasture, so instead, you cast it astray. Given this mentality, in time, only the purists of sheep shall remain ... and as more time passes ... those sheep will find each other unworthy, passing judgment until only one sheep shall remain.

    This was the mentality Mark always stood against ... the mentality that all who do not believe a certain way must be wrong and must be cast into the fires. What consumed Mark also became his undoing, as he was drawn to the left by those who fought to force him to the right. Little did they know, the man actually stood in the center, willing to see either side, were it not for the fact he was told to stand right ... or walk away. Any person who is told this enough will eventually step leftward, not wanting to be forced to a standard they have not yet accepted for themselves.

    For you see ... in a religious forum there can only be believers and non-believers, as no one seems to want a person to remain on the fence and look at both sides. You simply believe ... or you don't ... and that shouldn't be how things work.

    God gave us free will, so how can us - as forum members - determine that shouldn't exist?

    That's what Mark always brought to the table ... that we should all be allowed to chose our own path and should not be pulled by the leash.

    And so, I will miss Mark, but I understand and respect his position, and I won't demand him to come back ... as MArk was always about expressing his free will, and forcing him to come back would be denying him what he always was.

    If anything, I would hope there was something to learn from all of this, rather than a win to gloat over. Let us not divide this forum to the point where it absolves to one winner and disappears altogether.

    Then again ... we all have the right to free will, so I leave it to you to decide where the religious forum goes from here ...

  28. Valerie F profile image60
    Valerie Fposted 15 years ago

    Earnest, I lived in Los Angeles during times of outright gang warfare. The God-and-guns loonies are full of bluster. Most of the people responsible for gun crime do this sort of stuff for non-religious motives.

  29. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 15 years ago

    @ Valerie

    I answered your request. smile

  30. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 15 years ago

    The mocker / scoffer is done being addressed !

    I am not your ask all answer all.

    You lack pure motives.

    1. quietnessandtrust profile image60
      quietnessandtrustposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  31. quietnessandtrust profile image60
    quietnessandtrustposted 15 years ago

    Besides, I know who you really are dude.

    1. Randy Godwin profile image60
      Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I hope so, this is my real name.  Unlike you, I do not hide behind a false and frankly, misleading alias.  I did not expect you to answer anything at all, you never do.

      1. Randy Godwin profile image60
        Randy Godwinposted 15 years agoin reply to this

        Good answer!

  32. earnestshub profile image71
    earnestshubposted 15 years ago

    A threat? Oh goody! Who is this one directed at! lol

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