Clinton supporters - what would it take for you to NOT vote for the Hillary? To

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   The Old Guardposted 8 years ago

   Clinton supporters - what would it take for you to NOT vote for the Hillary? To accept Trump?
   
   All the accusations about Trump that are now coming out, just weeks before the election. Not a coincidence.
   Even the mass media admits a bias against Trump and a love for Hillary.
   Doesn't it bother you , that since hillary's alleged firing from the Watergate Commission in the 70's, that she and her husband have been investigated numerous times?
   Whitewater, sex scandals, travel gate, Benghazi, email controversy as Sec. of State. (Even the FBI agents involved in the email investigation were appalled that hillary was not charged.)
   What would change your mind about hillary's grasp for power?
   
   

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   ahorsebackposted 8 years ago

   Those who HAVE decided on Hilary  are perfectly willing to accept her baggage  as it is .   Given the ideological divide  in America  people are very much fixed in their choices ,    Character flaws and all . None of it matters  , it is the overall socialist entitlement agenda that feeds their narrative too and  it's really all about a" food stamp" vote   , a free college loan , a  tax break for having more kids , and  a pant suit fad
   
   Shallow but true.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Can't argue with most of what you've said, eddie.
      To be honest, I cannot see past all the corruption allegations against hillary and bill. Just too many and too often.
      cheers

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      Aime Fposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      As a liberal my last vote, that put the Liberals in power in Canada, increased my taxes and lowered my child benefits. I know it's SO hard for you to grasp, but plenty of liberals vote based on the platform as whole & not just on personal benefit

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Aime,
      You're right, I do not grasp the concept that you think someone in your government is more capable of handling your money that you are.
      That you think government is better than a Mafia shake down - both tell you what you need to do, by force

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Youre a clinton supporter?

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie, hardly.
      I see government as a mafia styled shakedown organization.
      The US gov can legally steal your money, lock you up for "thinking" wrong.
      Hillary killory Clinton brings more of the same, Trump's a wild card who may offer freedom

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      So Aime you voted to raise your taxes and get less welfare for your child & you think that is praiseworthy?It hurts your country https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies … titiveness

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Both parties declined the US since the 70s, but being loyal to either party that fails is why we are still declining. Just look at the US today and you see more decline. Professional politicians got us here, loyal party voters want us to stay here

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Big business got us here. A sleazebag businessmsm will not help.

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      Aime Fposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Where did I ask for any praise? I'm trying to point out that not ALL liberals are lazy and entitled. I can afford to take care of my kid even with raised taxes. Some people can't & I'm okay with my extra benefits going to them.

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Liberals pay their taxes. Its shmucks like trump and romney that feel entitled. Entitled to let others pay their share. Entitled to park their money overseas. "Only the little people pay taxes." no kidding. Trump the real elite!

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       bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Leslie
       The democrats passed the Income Tax, but both parties have made it what it is today. The Internal Revenue Code was changed in 1986 by Reagan and the middle class lost most of their few usable deductions. Neither party wants to change it.

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Thats not true. Lots of individuals left and right want to fix. Including obama. He wanted to remove carried interest. Even trump mentioned that hedge funders need to pay more. I know sanders has worked to change it. RIGHT NOW, its tea party problem

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   johnmariowposted 8 years ago

   Trump wants to punish his critics and jail his opponents  This policy is anti-American. I remember this kind of rhetoric when the Shah of Iran was overthrown.
   
   Trump also made a comment about taking the shackles off. He will have to deal with Congress as President. Congress is not shackles. Congress is one of the three major branches of government.  Trump talks like an emperor; Not like the President of a Democratic Republic.
   
   During the last Presidential debate, Trump told an Islamic woman that she and her people must do more to help us fight terrorism. Trump did not know anything about this Islamic woman.
   
   Remember the Boston Marathon terrorist attack? Remember all those people who did not report the large packages left on the ground? The packages that exploded? Who did not report those packages to the police? They were US citizens of various nationalities. Singling out Muslims is bigotry.
   
   Last but not least is Trump's lewd comments about woman both on the video and during the primaries. I'd like to hear voters explaining to their young daughters why they voted for Trump when their daughters ask about those lewd comments.
   
   Having said all this; I will not vote for Trump regardless of who is running against him.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Trump wants to jail criminals, like hillary, lynch comey for corrupting the investigation into the email scandal while hillary was SOS.
      He never, ever said he wanted to jail his "opponents". You work for a news agency??
      Get a bit of truth, please.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      "explaining to their young daughters..."? lol Forget Bill had children across the nation asking parents what a BJ is. So this is what we can expect children to ask Hillary? https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/12826715_f520.jpg

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I agree. Trump is about as unamerican as they get.
      Out if billions, he cant spare any for the country that provided his wealth.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      John Gentile
      What a load of rubbish. What lewd comments? Singling out Muslims coming from terrorist active countries is smart, instead of bringing them here so they can continue terrorism on our soil. Seems like you are a terrorist sympathizer.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      2armed trumpsters protest a female democrat at her office. This is terrorism and trump is a terrorist. " knock the crap out of em will you" trump is summoning the beast.

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      frumpletonposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Newsweek says that Bush's administration lost 22 million emails.  But I guess that's o.k., John Wilson, since you like Trump and Hillary's measly 33,000 lost emails are worse?

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well, I'm done.
      No reason to waste words, there's no discussion here.
      A logical presentation of policies that enhance freedoms is too much to ask for. Emotions, ignorance of facts, biases, superiority - you can have it all.
      I withdraw.
      Cheers

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Freedom for men who want guns and avoidance of taxes. Everyone else can stuff it.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie, your a prime example of why the country is the way it is.
      Biased, closed minded and angry.
      You want to tell others what they must do, and are offended when others tell you what to do.
      Can't have it both ways.
      Cheers

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       You mean like telling you you must let others live their lives without your religious dictums? Thats just common courtesy. If not, then what is it im telling you to do?

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   lisavollrathposted 8 years ago

   I suppose I wouldn't vote for her if she died between now and the time I cast my early vote---but then, I suspect even Dead Hillary would be more qualified to be president than her opponents.
   
   Short of that, nothing.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Yup, clinton is used to the corruption in d.c., she definitely will fit right in.
      Trump, on the other had, might even try and give back some of the freedoms we've lost. Heaven forbid. I can understand why you would not want that.
      Cheers

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      John
      Clinton more qualified, really, she failed at everything she did in politics.

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      lisavollrathposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      You asked. I answered. No amount of snark will change my mind.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Brad
      
      These days and with her naive, gullible, uninformed followers all you need to be "qualified" is to be willing to, not good at just willing to, lie and, so it follows, lie about lying.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      In their typical fashion, theyre not interested in anyone elses opinion, but shoving theirs around. A hillary supporter answers, and gets a barrage of hillary-hate. Since tea party, iron fists rule.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Lisa
      It doesn't matter about your mind, you are just wrong. and you can't even back it up, or even attempt it.
      
      DTMB
      In 2008 she cn even beat Sen Obama, and she had to have the DNC rig the primary to get this far. Benghazi, Syria, ISIL, Libya!

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, why dont you list trumps qualifications for president. Dont hillary bash, what makes trump qualified?

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      To start with you hate him, that's a pretty good qualification because if you liked him I certainly wouldn't be voting for him.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Got nothing, huh? Knew it.

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       The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Lisa,
       Thought snarky might work, I'll put him back in the dog house
       Cheers

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       A 50 yr old man supporting trump wrote on fb. If trump doesnt win, he wont accept it. There will be bloodshed. THIS is what guns are for! And trump is fully egging it on by crying that everything is rigged against him. Hes a dangerous thug, for real.

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       The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       This is the government that our founders warned us about.
       This government is the reason for the second amendment.
       Read it - if you don't understand it, get a dictionary.
       Cheers

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       Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Indeed "Keep" means own and "Bear" means carry.
       NO permit required.

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   dashingscorpioposted 8 years ago

   
   
   I believe most people vote according to party platform regardless of who is at the top of a ticket whether it's Republican or Democrat.
   Ultimately it's "swing states" and "independents" that decide close elections. These are probably the voters who may vote or not vote for a candidate based upon who they are as opposed to a party platform.
   Generally speaking these voters are "undecided" until the final week.
   Having said that it is rare that a Republican votes Democrat or a Democrat votes Republican unless their is a major economic meltdown, an impending war, or other national catastrophe they feel one individual is better suited to handle.
   Platform issues such as raising the minimum wages, being pro-choice, restructuring college student loans, maintaining/fixing Obamacare. immigration reform, raising taxes on the wealthy, marriage equality and the like have nothing to do with lying. corruption, or emails.
   This also holds true for the vast majority of Republican Trump supporters. Evangelicals aren't going to vote for someone who is pro-choice, for marriage equality, raising taxes, and favors gun restrictions. Party affiliation trumps the candidate. (No pun intended)
   In every presidential election there are people who don't like any of the candidates! This election has the highest "unfavorable" polls for both parties. Most voters would rather hold their nose and vote for (their party) candidate than to vote for someone who is against the platform. These voters want (their party) in the oval office.
   The candidate is for the most part just the icing on the party cake.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I always go back to why America was founded - for freedom.
      There are certain laws that need to be in place.
      My concern - any new regulations take away my freedoms. Just in 2015 alone, over 3,000 new laws. Can't have that many and still be free.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      But its a republican house and senate. How do you blame hillary?

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      These are rules and regulations enacted by agencies.
      hillary, while senator only increased government, never limited it.
      Her ideas for her Prez. more taxes, more obamacare. Both infringe on my freedoms and rights.
      That help you?

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      DashingScorpio,
      Do you think that your statement is a smart thing"I believe most people vote according to party platform regardless of who is at the top of a ticket whether it's Republican or Democrat" Both parties are corrupt, isn't it obvious

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not a bit. You have problems with laws passed in 2015, your derelicts are to blame.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie
      Relax, use your words.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Step down. Superiority complex.

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   Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years ago

   
   
   We're way past what it would take for a sane person not to vote for Hillary. Funny how the hypocrites come out of the woodwork answering a question like this to denigrate Trump for lewd things he has said more than a decade ago while unlike Hillary he has done or said nothing to actually hurt real women or the country while Hillary has a forty year record of lewd comments but worse, actions well documented to hurt women (threatening and being involved in publicly ridiculing victims of her husbands's sexual assaults), children and even the nation.
   
   Frankly, I consider this election a crap sandwich and neither candidate is worthy of the office of the presidency. But if the media is going to drag Donald Trump through the sleazy mud (and he deserves it, believe me), turn about’s fair play with the Hildabeast. The woman is just vile and her language shows it. She has a regular potty mouth worthy of well… Hillary Clinton.
   
   Clinton seems to have a fondness for the ‘F’ word. She uses it a lot. She also seems to hate Jews… shocker there. And of course she is infamous for her hatred of a) the Secret Service, b) the police and c) the military. She’s an all-around racist and hater. So, really her taking the high road over Trump is just laughable. She released those audios on the weekend to deflect from the WikiLeaks dump exposing more of her corruption. She’s even worse than Trump.
   
   From Independent Review Journal:
   
   The following are 13 documented quotes from Hillary Clinton—and some of them are sexually explicit.
   
   1. “Where is the G-damn f***ing flag? I want the G-damn f***ing flag up every f***ing morning at f***ing sunrise.”
   
   2. “You sold out, you mother f***er! You sold out!”
   
   3. ‘F**k off! It’s enough that I have to see you ****-kickers every day, I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.’
   
   4. “You f***ing idiot.”
   
   5. “If you want to remain on this detail, get your f***ing ass over here and grab those bags!”
   
   6. “Get f***ed! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!”
   
   7. “Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?”
   
   8. “Where’s the miserable c*ck sucker?”
   
   9. “You fu***ing Jew bastard.”
   
   10. “Son of a bitch.”
   
   11. “When are they going to get those f*****g ree-tards out of here?”‘
   
   12. “Stupid k**e.”
   
   13. “Come on Bill, put your d**k up! You can’t f**k her here!!”
   
   What a freaking hosebeast this woman is. And there are many, many more instances of comments from Clinton that are just as bad over the years, don't trust me, do some homework. She’s hated by staff and security for a very good reason… she’s a b*tch. By the way, at least one of those quotes above shows the disdain she has for her hubby and his lack of discipline when keeping it in his pants.
   
   This woman is a disgrace… she’s about as far from being presidential as it gets. She’s also a communist who wants to finish off the Constitution and our rights. Do we really want the first female president of the US to not only be a crook, but a crass shrew? An elitist political whore who only cares about her own wealth and power is not the leader this country needs… now or ever.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      This question was for clinton supporters. You have a trump support question.

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      savvydatingposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      True Taze.. Furthermore, she may as well have bought the gun that Vince Foster killed himself with. She berated him mercilessly in front of his peers. The woman is amoral. A disgusting human being. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/20

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Savvy, I'd forgotten about that, there is so much ugly behavior by HRC it's hard to even remember it all. BTW that link doesn't work but if it is about Vince Foster all one need do is google [Hillary Clinton Bullied Vince Foster]

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      DTMB
      Why is it that people are so hard up to get a Female president they don't care who it is? The DNC didn't think she was qualified for the presidency in 2008, and it turns out she was even qualified to be sec of state.

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Brad,same reason they didn't care who the first black president was.But when u say people do u mean voters who are hard up because they are uninformed&thoughtless or Party elites who would run a hamster if they thought voters would buy it.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why are clinton haters answering a question posed to clinton supporters?

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      Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      There just aren't that many Clinton-supporters other than the CFR & Planned Parenthood.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not on hubpages, ill give u that. This place is breitbart central. When trump, bannon and ailes get their tv station up, im sure itll be celebrated with high honor here. It doesnt reflect the real world, tho, where hillary got more votes than all.

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      Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Like Joan Rivers, Tom Clancey, & untold others the Obamanites caused the death of Andrew Breitbart. HRC apparently took-out gay-Chicagoan Ambassador Chris Stevens who likely "hung out" at Man's Country with Bathhouse Barry.

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       bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       DTMB
       I think we are done here, no arguments left to rebuttal from the Clinton supporters.

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Dont you mean, cant handle the crazies?

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       Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Brad,
       
       "can't handle the crazies" she said it, not you (or me).
       
       Maybe she is coming around? lol

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Ok ill bite. Another rumour has it that breitbarts death paved the way for steve bannon (goldman sachs) and trump to take over the empire. He was murdered in a gay bar while partaking. There u go. The other side of crazy. Its ALL the right wing!

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   lovemychrisposted 8 years ago

   Accept trump? Not in a million years. And the teapublicans have show me i dont have to! I would treat dumpy the same way republicans treated obama.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Fair enough - your as closed minded as most Trump supporters
      Can't blame anyone but ourselves when we have eyes but cannot see.
      I cannot for the life of me see anything but scum in HRC
      Same scum I see in obama. Glad I left the U.S.
      Cheers

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      John,4years after Trump's electedn, HRC's in jail & the country's economy is exploding Leslie will still be posting her name calling comments because she has no respect for the truth or facts, that will never change u can bank on that.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I wish you took more with you.

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      The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie, I imagine you do.
      I think anyone that has any sense of freedom should leave, let the country get destroyed by the likes of killory and obama.
      We'd just come back and build it great . Capitalists and freedom thinkers build.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Build a fascist state that locks women up for miscarriages and jails reporters. No thanks.

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie
      There you go again, never facts, just vile bile.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Why dont you google it brad. "Women locked up for miscarriage in usa" and " trump threatens to jail reporters" and this is hardly vile bile. Go to colorfulone/onusus for that. Neverbanned, anything goes.*God bless!*

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   Sgt Prepperposted 8 years ago

   There is a special place in Hell for any regular white-guy who votes for Hillary. She will use government force to make people reject Christianity. Hillary said "Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will. And deep-seated religious beliefs have to be changed."

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Lot of people dont believe in hell. Lot of people are sick of the holidays we are forced to finnagle around every year, but still hear complaints of xtianity taken away. Im with ghandi: i love christ, its christians i have a problem with. Repent!

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      Sgt Prepperposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Don't worry born-again believers will soon be Raptured away & you will then be forced to worship Obama the Antichrist, False Prophet Pope Francis & the devil Allah. Get ready!

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not in my future. My future everyone instantly sees god: every beautiful, wondrous, magical thing around them. Devil fades into oblivion or transforms into a being of light. I must've read a different book than you

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie
      You really are in another universe.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I dont know if it was the moon, or whats going on in dakota, but 2 days ago driving, i saw and felt the indigenous power dancing. Heard the chants, everything. They are here. The rainbow warriors.

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   LindaSmith1posted 8 years ago

   Not voting Hillary, look at what she is really about, has done to this country rather than for this country.  She is crooked and a liar. I guess I am one of what she calls Deplorables bc I am not voting for her.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      No, youre just in a different universe. A parrallel one where you see out of the eyes of the vast right wing.i dont recognize them. Simple!

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Leslie
      I don't see you answering my questions on Hillary, I don't mean my comments.
      We may be in a different universe than you, but our universe is the real one.
      In your universe, the country is in an era of prosperity.

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      lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Not as much as we could be. If republicans had any care for this place, other than their power in it, we would be soaring. That is why i wish we could separate.
      Blue america would be fantabulous! Red america is stuck on me me me

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    frumpletonposted 8 years ago

    Well, Republicans have a bad reputation.  George W. Bush's administration, while his cohort, Chaney, was in with him:  The administration lost 22,000,000 emails, compared to Hillary's 33,000.  The Republicans cost the country a lot of money, because they always start a war.  Costs a lot to run a war:  Soldiers' pay, tanks, ammunition, food, transportation, health care, and then they don't want to pay when a soldier dies.  Puts PTSD soldiers though endless red tape.  And someone always makes money off it.  Like Chaney with Haliburton.  I guess what would turn me away from Hillary would be if she started fondling men without their permission, kissing them, without their permission (and admitting to it).  Also, if she started kissing Putin's butt like Trump has done.  Or making a Clinton Tower in the USA and if that wasn't enough, wanting another one with their name splashed all over it in Russia, too.  (Like Trump)  Or if she had a private jet with Clinton written in big letters all over it like that vain Trump has on his.  Or if she went bankrupt as many times as he had or ran gambling casinos and then expected Christians to embrace her.  Is that enough?  Or should I continue?  Trump never learned how to live like middle class people.  Hillary, although also wealthy, still supports those of the lower class.  Trump just wants to say, "Look at me, Look at me!"  Hillary was humiliated in public by her husband's cheating, but she still was a strong woman.  Trump whines when things don't go his own way.  He whines that the media is corrupt, that the microphone doesn't work, etc.  I would never vote for Trump

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       bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Hillary didn't lost them, she deleted them, and then wiped them and the entire server. You don't seem to know much, so I can't really go any further than to say, you are whinning.

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Just like karl rove did while using a private server run by the rnc in the white house. 22 million of them. Mitt romney removed all cyber records of his time as gvr in massachussetts. Is it only men who get to do this? No one ever cared before!

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       Kylyssaposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Good answer, but there's really no point in answering a question like this where the point is to bash you if you don't think Hillary is worse than Trump.

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    Kathleen Odenthalposted 8 years ago

    "Bill Clinton cheats on his wife. Impeach him. Trump proudly brags about sexual assault (and has cheated on his wives). Elect him. Hillary oversaw the department of state while 4 people died in an embassy attack. Put her in jail. 2 Republicans were in office while over 200 people died in embassy attacks. No problem. Immigrants don't pay taxes. Round them up and kick them out. Trump doesn't pay taxes. He's a business genius. Hillary's foundation only spent 87% of their donations helping people. She's a crook. Trumps foundation paid off his debts, bought sculptures of him, and made political donations to avoid investigations while using less than 5% of funds for charity (and he got shut down by NY State). So savvy... Put him in the white house. Trump made 4 billion dollars in 40 years, when an index fund started at the same time with the same "small loans" he received would be worth $12 billion today... without a trail of bankruptcies, thousands of lawsuits and burned small business owners. He's a real business whiz. Hillary took a loss of $700k. She's a criminal. Trump is the first candidate in the modern era not to release his tax returns, and took a billion dollar loss in 1 year. Genius. Hillary takes responsibility for private email servers and apologizes. Not credible. Trump denies saying things (on the record) he actually said (on the record), he's just telling it like it is.
    
    Your arguments are thin. Your ignorance of reality is shocking. Your double-standards are offensive, and your willingness to blindly support him and recycle the rhetoric is absurd. Your opinion is not fact. Your memes are not news articles. And your hypocrisy is not a platform."
    
    - Alex Schiller

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       The Old Guardposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       There are so many holes in this, with 250 words impossible to discuss.
       Trump and hilary are not running a prez. election, they're running a mudslinging competition, with most slinging the mud along with hillary. America's toast.

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       lovemychrisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       Riiiiight. Hillary is the one calling everybody names, telling people to knock people out, etc. That comment has zero credibilty. Just like dumpy the clown.

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    Ewentposted 7 years ago

    There is no way I would ever support Trump. Not now. Not ever. Why? All I need to do is go over the past 4 decades of that smug mug in our NY/NJ Metro area papers where his FACE time on front covers broadcast what a sleazy person he is.
    
    There isn't a single New Yorker or New Jerseyan who doesn't know about Trump and his corruption. The NY AG filed charges on Trump for RICO violations and racketeeting. He bilked millions out of money for Trump University. Who supports a crook like that?
    
    Then, he uses NJ like it's a piggy bank. First, making sure he got as many tax cuts and subsides for his phony golf club in Bedminster. Then, dumping 6 corporate bankruptcies on taxpayers while refusing to pay his hotel and casino employees and the contractors who built those casinos and hotels what he owed them.
    
    Trump belongs in prison. Anyone who dares to condone his actions belongs there with him. Who elects a president who pays his way out of a money laundering conviction?

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