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A Texanposted 14 years ago
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090928/D9B0GN380.html
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  sassychicposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well I say when I moved to my new home done here, people honestly were disgusted my teh fact that I was from the state I grew up in, tehy also were very racist and still are.
  
  I was kind of alarmed by this but you know I should have seen it coming. . . . .lol
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ????????????????????????????????????????????
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  James Agbogunposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The Truth is that, there is no such thing as Racism.
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atilposted 14 years ago
It looks like plenty of people are going out of there way to stir up an animosity between whites and blacks.
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cosetteposted 14 years ago
i don't sense racism against the President. i honestly think those people who are angry at him are angry about his policies, not because he is Black.
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  mikey9923posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i m on the fence with this one
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are thinking I wish more people would!
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  andromidaposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you.
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nicompposted 14 years ago
No one peeped when Chavez called Bush the Devil in an address to the UN. I guess we hold liberals to a lower standard.
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  Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well that wasn't racists nicomp. It was almost true.
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=binMjEiS8AY
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As I said, liberals are held to a lower standard.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Al Sharpton / Tawana Brawley - media continues to use him as a race hustler.
  
  Jesse Jackson / Numerous Extortions & extra-martital trysts - media continues to use him as a race hustler and moralist
  
  Ted Kennedy / Not enough space to list here - media holds him up as a saint.
  
  William Jefferson / 90K in freezer - media looked the other way during trial and sentencing
  
  yada yada yada.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  lol again
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I obviously have you at a loss for words.
  
  I must go now, for I have important things to accomplish for which people will pay me money and I am far too busy to spend any more time in this forum. g'night.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That argument is so ridiculous there's no point in responding.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Once again us and them huh? You seem hell bent on creating the deepest divide you can with your assessment of situations that could use a little thought.
  
  Do I think it was racist? No! But by you going into your typical tyrade about us and them you don't help.
  
  You just don't get it do you. The greatest thing we can hand the politicians of this country is a divided electorate. Then they have free will to do whatever the lobbyist want. I can guarantee that the lobbyists are not duplicitous in their agendas.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So we should come together under the Liberal agenda or the Conservative agenda? It is us vs them thats what you don't seem to get, Obama is not going to put forth policies that I want just ones you want.
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  rhamsonposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How do you know what I want? You seem to think because I may have a few thoughts that seemingly are in line with Obama I am therefore a liberal and thus the enemy. I don't feel constrained to think one way or the other based on the labels given me by someone. You don't know how many times I agree with some of your views.
  
  What we have to do is get a REPRESENTATIVE government of the people and not BIG BUSINESS. If you think your conservative buddies in congress represent you you are sadly mistaken my friend.
  
  Obama does not run us we run him. If you vote against him and replace him based on his performance or failures you will get a lot farther than the us against them syndrome. Doing it the way you are with division only strengthens them.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Rhamson, I am not liberal, but this is "Very" intelligent insight here, Bravo. Divided by race, we all loose. Representitive Goverment...not Race divisions.
  
  Jon
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well said. If we don't buy into all this race-baiting, they can't go anywhere with it.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What does that have to do with this thread?
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  As usual, you get the most done with the least words.
  
  Liberals complaining about how they perceive their president being treated vs how they treated Bush.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why do you keep bringing up Bush? You have complained many times that Bush should not be brought into discussions because he is no longer president. Chavez is not a US citizen, so it is irrelevant.
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  'Typical Liberal to' <something unrelated to being on the left side of the center>. LOL again...
  
  Conservatives doing the same things to Obama that they condemned liberals for when bush was in office....
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  About as much as antelope have to do with political/social threads!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  o...k...
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AEvansposted 14 years ago
I detect racism on how it was described and I personally think it is ridiculous! People need to grow up if they are going to comment they should not portray him as the Joker with red lipstick to me it is racist and I am certainy not ashamed to say it all.
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  atilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What do you mean you detect racism on how it was described? Do you mean the story was racist?
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  Ghost32posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like the feeling is that portraying the Prez as the Joker was racist. Not sure how that plays out, unless the viewpoint is that the Joker's extreme makeup is somehow a version of the old blackface makeup (only in reverse).
  
  Seems more like being portrayed as the Joker would be an insult to his sanity rather than his race, though--since the Joker was all crazy and a yard wide.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not following the Joker and the race part at all, be a real stretch to go with the white face angle.
  
  Playing the race card is not a winning strategy for the Democrats I have no idea why they think it will work.
  
  Its there sandbox let em play!
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why would I think the story itself was racist?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  How am I supposed to know, thats why I asked.
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  The banner, unfurled within the past few days, depicts Obama as Heath Ledger's grotesque Joker character from "The Dark Knight." The president is shown with smeared red lipstick, a white face and darkened eyes. The word "socialism" is spelled out below the caricature.
  
  The story is not racist it was the banner that I percieved to be a racial remark they could have used any other character, interesting how they used the joker, would they have used the same character on Bush? I don't think so but as you know it is only my opinion and I believe there were sublimal racial thoughts when they used the joker.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They did use the same character on Bush!
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When? So what is your exact perception on this matter since you reside in the state of Texas? So you are believing that seemingly since they used it on Bush it is o.k. to use it on Obama? They couldn't think of any other character to use?
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I have the picture of Bush as the joker I just don't know how to load it into the forum post. What does me living in Texas have to do with anything? And yes they used it on Bush so you can use it for Obama! He is the President isn't he? Or is he the Black President?
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Last time I checked he was the President and you living in Texas honestly doesn't have anything to do with it, one would think they would be a little more creative and not use the same character twice.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They did use the same character twice, and I don't even know who they are.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What 'race' issue is invoked by the are-you-freaking-kidding-me JOKER?
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you going to start picking to? The president is shown with smeared red lipstick, a white face and darkened eyes. The word "socialism" is spelled out below the caricature.
  my goodness I am entitled to my opinion I am not trying to debate someone on there own perception. smeared lipstick, white face and darkened eyes? I personally do not care for that perception it reminded me of something right out of the 30's. I pictured the racial undertones didn't you? What is your perception? My opinion is my own ,A Texan asked,"More Racism?" I was not going to defend one white man who was a part of my own race for his lack of taste when portraying the President. How would a white man feel if a black man held up a sign portraying there white leader was a Nazi? Our entire white race would want to lynch him wouldn't they?
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  So...What 'race' issue is invoked by the are-you-freaking-kidding-me JOKER? THE JOKER?
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  look at the Joker and you tell me lolollo
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your imagination has mixed with your political bias to create an unfortunate distortion.
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Should I go to sleep now? Maybe it is the Pinot Grigio I know I didn't distort and had a little fun. (((Big Hugs)) **smack**
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey, as long as you're enjoying yourself.
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It isn't everyday that I can have a glass of wine and tonight I was able to relax and decompress I was celebrating my husband going into remission from cancer and it certainly feels good.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is something worth celebrating and I will raise a glass to him myself right now. Please pass along my best wishes.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I am not picking I was just confused as to what you thought was racist. If it is your opinion that it is thats ok, I am just trying to understand how its racist. You said that Bush was not portrayed this way when in fact he was, I think its more of a "something ain't right with you" thing. If anybody can tell me how to post an image here I would appreciate it.
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, you mean like EVERY DAY FOR EIGHT YEARS WHILE BUSH WAS PRESIDENT?
  
  Are you kidding me?
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  pageantgirl31413posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't. If the president was acting as such then a black man or white man has the right to hold up the sign.
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comp3820posted 14 years ago
I don't know... I don't think its right whoever did it, but I do remember Rush Limbaugh talking about the person who paraded in a conservative rally with an "obama/nazi" sign, and then went inside the nearby building and began to hand out literature for the Senator whose office was there... the democrat Senator.
Like I said, I think its wrong, but I wonder how much of this is fueled by the left's desire to take away the attention from the real arguments against Obama's policy.
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Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago
"George Bush hates black people." -Kanye West
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  nicompposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Please hand me my award." -Taylor Swift
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  Pr0metheusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  "Im happy fore u im let u finish! BUT BEYONCE HAD THE BEST MUSIC VIDEO OF ALL TIME!"
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Pr0metheusposted 14 years ago
P.S. Watch the video of him loosing the European VMAs to Justice and Symian. The look on his face is fucking hilarious!
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thranaxposted 14 years ago
=o

~thranax~
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Leta Sposted 14 years ago
Another amazing and utterly, utterly brilliant thread.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was and then...
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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Lita, I appreciate that you didn't delete my comment on your Cloud Hub, however...you still have a broken link.
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  Leta Sposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why would I delete it?
  
  I really am NOT into the us vs. them thing. That's really in some others' heads. I take no insult simply because others have different views. I just dislike nastiness.
  
  And Hubpage tools don't indicate a broken link. Hmmm.
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A Texanposted 14 years ago
SOMEBODY TELL ME HOW TO LOAD A PICTURE!!!!!!

Thank you
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Texan. Is this it?
  
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is scary! whoooah
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thats a freak-show!
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  Make Moneyposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  No
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A Texanposted 14 years ago
This is the only way I could figure out how to do it. Look at Profile picture
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tksenseiposted 14 years ago
That is so racist! (I...guess...somehow...)
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It is isn't it (somehow)
  
  Think I'll keep it
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  AEvansposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Looks like George Bush to me! lolololo o.k. o.k so I was being a little naughty last night have a great day!
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Cranooposted 14 years ago
Do ya know what? Us whites are getting SICK and TIRED of this crap. You're actually going to turn people racist with your whinging all the time!

You've been well paid back for your slavery would you rather be in Africa in the middle of a famine or in NewYork weighing 20 stone?

Sorry, just had to vent! (I'm not racist!)
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Um not much of choice there ,sorry ,but I understand where ya coming from.
  
  No actually I dont.
  
  Racism seems to be blamed for alot of things, could it be that it is still significant enough of an issue in many peoples hearts , hence its surfacing here n there ...just my opinion.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Could it be that some people have a vested interest in seeing that racism never goes away or at least never strays very far from the limelight?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is one of the silliest comments I have heard.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with Un-Inviter Writer, this is silly.
  
  Jon
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I wouldn't say it was silly. He was expressing his annoyance at the idea that just because he's white that means he's racist. And the reaction to one group constantly insisting that it is so engenders anger with that group. Not racism, perhaps, but I can see the anger that might follow.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  it is silly. we are being baited. Yes I am white, and yes we all can say we are tierd, but so are Black folks, so why get into it, fall into the trap. It is silly.
  
  If we all get togeather Black and white and pass it by then the person tying it has no power. If we sucumb to it, then they get to give it the attention it does not deserve.
  
  It is time to look at each other with out describing a color first! Its silly to let yourself get trapped, is what I mean.
  
  Do not see the color first, see the person!
  
  Just say Woman or man,, not black woman or white woman, just woman, or not just Black man or white man, just say man! thats all that is necessary.
  
  Lets all pay attention to Representitive Goverment for all of us, before we all wake up in a mess. its not races, its real People.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You missed the point. It is necessary to tell someone calling you a racist to shut up sometimes because the accusation is false. Those false accusers keep the pot stirred up.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Why do you have to attack? is it ego? You just have to prove an idiot is an idiot?
  
  It Makes no sense, You rail against the wind like that and wear yourself out, just waste your energy against the stupidity of the person calling out the name.
  
  Think first, if that person has no indians they can't be chief!
  
  Explain you wll not be baited into ignorance like this, if they have nothing to offer, then please drop the race card, it is a bankrupt card! Then be done posting in thier thread. Dead white space on a blog hurts! Think! Unite togeather cary the strength of many.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It was not my intention to attack you and I'm sorry you took it that way. But I do think that you missed the point the original poster was trying to express - hence, my attempt at explanation. I believe we agree in the main and your above points are well taken.
  
  I do still believe that it is necessary to not let those off the hook who attempt to spread lies.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I do not think that you are attacking me at all, I meant why attack those people, yes it would be nice to shut them down, but just railing against the voice gives them purpose to keep it up. If others see they are playing the card, ban togeather and ignore the Hub! Use power and affective strength, win it out right. Like that is what I meant. See if their hubs stay empty, and the questions stay un-answerd, then.... they are sensord by comon opinion, and man that hurts! No need to loose your energy over a looser!
  
  You keep writing, there was no attack at all, your fine
  
  Jon
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Jon. Again, I agree with you in general, but some cases need a quick slap and then need silence. I take it on a case-by-case basis.
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  dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I understand that, and it really could be so, but at 58 years I got tierd of that, the line got to long!!!!......lol
  
  so I figure dont get mad get even
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds good to me
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I don't get that. When someone calls someone else racist I don't assume that they think all white people are racist. People cannot make you be anything you don't want to be.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You get his point, I know you do.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Ditto
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I get his point but I disagree. I don't like the way he said it...speaking for all white people (us whites) ...no one can speak for an entire race...
  
  And we all agree, and I have said it many times. That most people who criticize Obama are not racist.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You don't like the way he said it? Ok, it is how he chose to present it, does that change the meaning?
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  livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There are more Republicans complaining about liberals crying racism than there are liberals crying racism.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  See, it ain't a working strategy! Try some other BS to get bills passed!
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Exactly
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Should we not complain when people lie? Its what Democrats do all the time, did you forget the past 8 years?
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  livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When one ex-president says racism is motivating SOME conservatives (the loudmouth protestors who can't manage to get their facts straight), and you see the type of reaction among a very large swathe of conservatives against all Democrats because of this, well, then I would classify that as an overreaction.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  That is your right!
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  tksenseiposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't overdo it.
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  James Agbogunposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You should know that there are Africans in Africa who only see famine on TV.
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rhamsonposted 14 years ago
By the way A Texan, good post and the article was well written. The funny thing about racism in this country is that non racists see nothing as racicist while racists see everything as racist.
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Eaglekiwiposted 14 years ago
It is both
Some never wanted a Black anything, let alone President
And some never wanted a Democrat ,simple as that really.

The ones who dont like his policies , their voices are drowned out but the other two groups IMO.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You are absolutely correct and HONEST!!
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Madame Xposted 14 years ago

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  jiberishposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's a smorgasbord!
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
Just goes to prove that there are idiots on all sides...
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livelongerposted 14 years ago
I don't think racism is the biggest problem with the Right these days. It is still a big problem with the former Dixiecrats in the Deep South and Appalachia (and to ignore that is really stupid).

The problem of hyperpartisanship, fanned by Fox News and drawing its source in a bunch of insecurity, is making a large segment of Republicans hate Obama, Pelosi and the Democrats "just because." It's not a matter of the Dems' policies, because most of what the "conservatives" are whining about today were very much true during the Bush era, and they were silent then. I think a lot of them are very much deliberately uninformed, but 100% sure of their positions because they don't believe thinking things through and getting all the facts matter (maybe this is related to religious dogma, another problem that plagues the Right these days).
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, thats it! (crickets)
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Well said.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Uninvited Writer - what was that you said about speaking for all?
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  livelongerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I pointed out some facts and drew my own conclusions about a group which I am not a member of (a behavioral/ideological group, not one you're born into).
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  Uninvited Writerposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't realize that republicans and democrats are different races.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  livelonger's post generalizes about repubs and dems, albeit his own opinion. Why is it ok for him to do so, about any group or groups, and not Cranoo?
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Madame Xposted 14 years ago
Wow - that's frightening

(the image above)
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, it is.
  
  I remember all the "nazi" allusions, but that one takes the cake. And ATexan's avatar doesn't even look like Bush.
  
  I've been meaning to ask who it is...glad I didn't.
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  Madame Xposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Take a look at the image on page 4 of this thread. Tex's avatar is too small to make the point - until you know what it is
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Actually, I can see ATexan's avatar better than all the images on page four. Still doesn't look like Bush to me...except maybe the nose.
  
  The funniest, and I mean funny because it was SO OFF, was of G.W. wearing a tea-cozy on his head and that white beard.
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Call me Tex, its much easier!
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  LiamBeanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You've got it!
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  A Texanposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Thankyathankyaverymuch! "Elvis!"
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