Govt Therapy Sessions: TDS Melt Downs

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   Sharlee01posted 2 months ago

   
   
   Today I read a Fox article that disturbed me, revealing some troubling actions at the State Department. Let me share----- Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., sharply criticized Secretary of State Antony Blinken after it was reported that the department organized therapy sessions for employees upset by President-elect Trump’s victory. In a letter to Blinken, Issa expressed his concerns, saying, “I am concerned that the Department is catering to federal employees who are personally devastated by the normal functioning of American democracy through the provision of government-funded mental health counseling because Kamala Harris was not elected President of the United States.”
   
   This letter followed a Free Beacon report detailing two therapy sessions allegedly held at the State Department, with one described as an “information cry session.” In another instance, an email was sent out to employees promoting an “insightful webinar” focused on “effective stress management techniques to help you navigate these challenging times.” The email stated, “Change is a constant in our lives, but it can often bring about stress and uncertainty. Join us for an insightful webinar where we delve into effective stress management techniques to help you navigate these challenging times. This session will provide tips and practical strategies for managing stress and maintaining your well-being.”
   
   Issa, while acknowledging the importance of mental health, found these sessions “disturbing,” questioning the use of taxpayer dollars to counsel employees upset about the results of a free and fair election. In his letter, he demanded answers on how many sessions had been conducted, how many more were planned, and how much they were costing the department. Furthermore, Issa raised concerns that such sessions might undermine the willingness of some State Department employees to implement President Trump’s foreign policy agenda, asking, “If foreign service officers cannot follow through on the American people’s preferences, they should resign and seek a political appointment in the next Democrat administration.”
   
   This situation prompts a broader question and concerns: Should government agencies provide emotional support to employees reacting to political outcomes, especially when it involves using public funds? As a taxpayer, I believe that our resources should be carefully managed to serve the greater good, and the priorities of our government should reflect that.
   
   This report not only leaves me disgusted but also makes me question whether individuals working for the government, who are so deeply disturbed—what some might refer to as "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrome)—should even be part of the new administration. If someone requires psychological assistance to respect our democracy and the process by which we elect a president, they are not fit for a position that demands they respect and serve that president.
   
   Questions ---
   
   Should we fund therapy sessions for government employees struggling to accept democratic principles, particularly in the context of elections?
   
   Would you support allocating funds for such therapy sessions?
   
   What potential consequences could arise from allowing individuals who are having difficulty accepting Trump's election victory to remain in their positions?
   
   Should these individuals be removed from their roles?

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I'm guessing mental health is part of their insurance plan? Just like a lot folks.

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         wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Is an inability (or unwillingness) to accept election results really a mental health problem?  If simply learning how elections work requires mental health sessions we are in deep trouble.

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            Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Who knows?  It's a Fox story so who knows what the actual reality is.  The actual issue could be. "People have a hard time switching gears after emotionally investing in some issue".  Probably even harder if pokiticic is their ACTUAL job.    Or "some people have a difficult time accepting a loss". But Fox turns it onto TDS.  TYPICAL.  trying to "other" people.  I mean really, what's the point of a story like this? 
            
            This is what the webinar included:
            
            “insightful webinar” focused on “effective stress management techniques to help you navigate these challenging times.” The email stated, “Change is a constant in our lives, but it can often bring about stress and uncertainty. Join us for an insightful webinar where we delve into effective stress management techniques to help you navigate these challenging times. "
            
            So what?

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               wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Perhaps it was simply sorrow over losing a job.  Still not a reason IMO to require counselling and mental health professionals. 
               
               If you can't (or won't) read between the lines of that email I can't help you understand any better than you do.

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                  Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  "If you can't (or won't) read between the lines of that email I can't help you understand any better than you do.".
                  
                  
                  Well maybe that's it, I'm not really interested in "Reading between the lines".   The whole thing is really just a nothing burger.  I just don't care if these people need help managing their stress.

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               Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

               "But Fox turns it onto TDS.  TYPICAL.  trying to "other" people.  I mean really, what's the point of a story like this? "
               
               First --- I wrote the original post after reading an article from Fox News. In my post, I summarized what I learned from the piece and made sure to note that I directly quoted a named, living person. Everything in the post reflects my own words and understanding, except for the last paragraph, which explicitly represents my personal opinion. The original Fox article made no mention of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome).
               
               To repeat my concerns ---- Bias in government or reporting presents significant challenges, particularly when public resources are used inappropriately or when professionals are unable to separate personal beliefs from their duties. Congressman Issa raised valid concerns about taxpayer-funded counseling sessions for State Department employees upset by the outcome of a free and fair election, questioning whether such measures reflect responsible governance. He highlighted potential risks, including the misuse of public funds, a lack of alignment with democratic principles, and whether emotionally affected individuals can effectively implement the administration’s policies.
               
               This situation also suggests that "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrome) remains alive and well, reflecting an inability to accept the legitimacy of the democratic process. Such behavior has no place in our new administration, where professionalism and impartiality are essential. If individuals cannot perform their roles without emotional distress over political outcomes, it raises questions about their suitability for positions that require them to serve and uphold the policies of the elected administration. These concerns underscore the importance of maintaining fiscal responsibility, respect for democracy, and integrity within public service.

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                  Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  I think the congressman you referenced should find better things to do with his time, I mean really.

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                     Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     Yes, I think he could probably find better things to do. But he took a jab and went for his 15 minutes to politick, just like I did with writing my opinion piece. I’ll admit, that these mindset pieces do catch my attention. They have a way of tapping into the current political climate and getting people to think, which is why they’re so compelling.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Dan,  I believe democracy has been a remarkable experiment, and while not perfect, it has worked well for the better part of our history. However, I see a segment of our society that seems determined to disrupt democracy as we know it, driven by ideologies that feel foreign to the values most Americans cherish. In my experience, when these individuals face resistance, they often lash out, struggle to handle being in the minority, and sometimes even spiral out of control. It’s clear that some can’t cope with the reality of their position and may even turn to therapy to manage their frustrations. While I think seeking help is fine on a personal level, I feel strongly that if someone in a government position allows these issues to interfere with their ability to serve effectively, they should be replaced. I see this behavior, often referred to as TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), as an ironic and difficult condition to address. It seems to me that maintaining professionalism and accountability in government is essential for democracy to function as intended.

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               wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               I agree.  I just have to wonder what happened to the genetic material that this country was built with; black, white, asian or AmerIndian, how has it deteriorated to what we see?  Little children in our universities needing "safe spaces" and puppies to pet to relive their anxiety over a political contest...little children that are 20 years old and considered adults.  Children we are paying to do a job that cannot work because of the stress of their party losing an election, just as it has done on and off for 200 years. 
               
               What happened?

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                  Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  My view --- The shift we’re seeing comes from a cultural move away from resilience.  We’ve traded the grit that built this country for a focus on comfort and emotional validation. Universities now shield students from discomfort rather than challenge them, and a generation raised to avoid failure struggles to cope with loss or opposition.
                  
                  Social media amplifies this fragility, creating echo chambers and discouraging tough conversations. Resilience isn’t genetic—it’s cultural. The people who built this nation weren’t inherently stronger; they were shaped by a world that rewarded strength, and resilience.

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               Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               However, I see a segment of our society that seems determined to disrupt democracy as we know it,
               
               Do you mean like those who voted not to certify the 2020 election? Those who still believe that Trump won the 2020 election?   Those who tried  to advance slates of fake electors? Calls for vote counting to be stopped?

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      abwilliamsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "Government Therapy Sessions", I cannot get past that in itself!! Herein lies the greatest extent of our problem, in moving on!
      I grew up having to deal with things. Death, moving...A LOT, thinking  I would be in a body cast for my entire 16th year of life, my Parents separating for a time, almost divorcing....(that's  how I ended up in FL via S.C.)
      No one was there to coddle me!
      No one had time, life went on!
      It did make me stronger!
      Not cold, uncaring, unfeeling... but stronger in dealing with life stuff. Stronger as a wife, Mom, "Gramma". I am definitely a stronger woman due to discipline, not coddling.
      
      Now I will go back and read what you and everyone else had to say on the subject.

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         Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         That in and of itself is the problem... we have had so much success, life has become SO easy for SO many Americans, they never fear ONE day in their lives about if they will eat that day.
         
         Some people can go their entire lives without contributing anything at all to society, and live very well, producing nothing of positive value... while getting a life people 100 years ago would literally do anything to have.

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         Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         You're absolutely right—life's challenges are what shape us into stronger, more capable individuals. The idea of "government therapy sessions" really does highlight how far we've drifted from self-reliance and resilience. Like you, I grew up in a time when we had to face tough situations head-on, without expecting someone to cushion every blow. It's not about becoming cold or unfeeling; it's about learning to persevere, adapt, and grow. That strength is what builds character and prepares us for life’s ups and downs.

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            Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

            What do you say of the self resilience of those who still cannot accept the results of the 2020 election?

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               Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               I say we have the new Congress that will be sworn in in 1/20/25 conduct a detailed investigation to see if any of the concerns of those who believe the 2020 election was rigged are valid.
               
               Let's put an end to this so we can all move on.
               
               I would say never letting cheating going unchallenged for years is pretty resilient.

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                  Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  The fact that over 60 different courts already looked at it isn't enough? Maga just can't let it go. Can't accept it.  I'm thinking they should take Sharlee's advice;  learn to adapt and grow.  A big part of that is moving on and accepting reality.   Those of us who have accepted the reality of the situation have already moved on long ago. 
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                     wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     60 different court didn't look at it.  My question is Why is this lie being perpetuated after all this time and the many, many times it was debunked?
                     
                     (As just one example, how many of those times was it dismissed as having "no standing" without ever looking at the evidence?)

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                        Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                        But standing is essential for any lawsuit.    When a judge says a case "doesn't have standing," it means that the plaintiff does not have a legally recognized right to bring the case to court because they haven't demonstrated a concrete, personal injury or harm directly related to the issue at hand, essentially meaning they lack the necessary connection to the dispute to be heard by the court; in simpler terms, they don't have a legitimate reason to be involved in the lawsuit.  The merits cannot be heard unless standing is established. 
                        
                        Many lawsuits pushed by Trump’s team and allies focused on smaller complaints, which were largely dismissed by judges due to a lack of evidence. “The Republicans did not provide evidence to back up their assertions — just speculation, rumors or hearsay.” one of the judges stated.   
                        
                        And another..."Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."
                        
                        He had his day in court. The time to put up the evidence has passed.  It's time to face reality.  He lost the 2020 election fair and square.  For folks to carry on after so many years is really problematic.

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                        Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                        Dan, did a bit of research, and the general accusations left made were debunked, they just are not wire to change gears once it has registered in their brains.  Very few were not heard due to lack of evidence.
                        
                        Many of the lawsuits brought by Trump and his allies after the 2020 election were dismissed or not heard by judges for various reasons. Here are the primary factors:
                        
                        Lack of Standing: Courts often found that the plaintiffs lacked standing, meaning they could not demonstrate a personal or legal injury that the court could address.
                        
                        Insufficient Evidence: Many cases were dismissed because they failed to present substantial evidence to support claims of widespread fraud or irregularities. Courts require specific, credible evidence to proceed with a case.
                        
                        Procedural Issues: Some lawsuits were filed improperly, missed deadlines, or failed to meet legal requirements for how challenges must be brought.
                        
                        State vs. Federal Jurisdiction: Election disputes are often governed by state law, and federal courts dismissed cases that they determined were more appropriate for state courts to address.
                        
                        Mootness: Some cases were deemed moot after states certified their election results or after the Electoral College vote, as the courts determined that no ruling could change the outcome.

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               Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

               I'm not sure where you got the idea that Republicans haven't moved on a long time ago. It seems like you reached into your old file to bring this up again. Ruminating on the past isn't healthy. Yes, many people feel very disappointed that the courts didn’t hear cases, mostly due to procedural mistakes. And yes, many would like to see our new DOJ look into all the claims of fraud in 2020. But, honestly, I’ve never read or noticed my side melting down or exhibiting emotional problems. Here on HP’s political forum, we bring it up from time to time when it's relevant. But I see no one here ruminating on the 2020 election except for Democrats or left-leaning posters.

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                  Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                  Several folks on this very forum continue to talk about the 2020 election results being questionable in their mind.  Lol Trump himself still talks about a "rigged" election.  Many times, on the campaign trail, he said he won the election.

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                     Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                     Yes, as I mentioned, the 2020 election often comes up in conversations when relevant. Trump has consistently maintained that he won the 2020 election, a belief he has strongly defended through public statements and legal challenges. Even after the election, he picked up the fight and continued to assert his stance, working tirelessly to challenge the results. Despite the lack of widespread evidence to support his claims, he never appeared to need any form of therapy for his belief. Instead, he has used this narrative as a cornerstone of his political identity, continually pushing to fight his way back into the White House through rallies, endorsements, and a bid for the 2024 election.

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                        Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                        Well it's either one of two things. He's delusional because he believes the election was stolen in 2020 and he can't let it go or he's just lying

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                           Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                           OR...maybe he's right...as he is right about many things and an investigation should be conducted by Congress.
                           
                           The reason for the investigation is to determine if there was organized cheating. 
                           
                           democrats have a long and established history of cheating in elections. 
                           
                           Recently in Pennsylvania, during a recount for a senate seat, a democrats chose to count ballots the Pennsylvania Supreme Court said they could not count.  Said it on Camara in front of thousands of people.  Said the states's laws have no jurisdiction in their country.  They found out they were wrong.  democrats cheating during an election is to be expected...stating it on television is a new level of arrogance.
                           
                           Yes, an investigation needs to be done concerning the 2020 election and processes need to be put in place so it does not happen again.

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                              Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                              It's past time that maga moves on.  In all these years, your group hasn't been able to come up with any evidence. Which honestly would seem quite easy that evidence would be all over the place when considering the large scale fraud the group is claiming. 
                              
                              Maga is just so fraught with this, fixated,  can't let It go.  Very sad.

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                                 abwilliamsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                 LOL, trust me MAGA is moving on... with bells on! If a few cheating Democratic heads roll (as Cred would say) so be it! All that is, is a big, fat, cherry on top!

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                                    Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                    Its just amazing that the people deciding whether we enter into WWIII with Russia are also the same people that need Mental Health Counseling because they can't deal with Trump's return to the White House.
                                    
                                    I hope everyone here takes the time to be with loved ones this Thanksgiving Weekend, leave the politics behind and enjoy the family and friends you have.
                                    
                                    Don't forget how things can change in the blink of an eye... the Pandemic the lockdowns should still be fresh enough in your minds.
                                    
                                    The Biden Administration still has 55 days to go... 55 days for the war(s) to be escalated to the point where we can no longer walk away. 
                                    
                                    Don't think these people are rational adults like we had back in the Kennedy years when dealing with the Cuban Missile Crisis... or even when Reagan was in and saying "tear down this wall".
                                    
                                    I've never known a more corrupt, warmongering collection to be in control of DC than this one... and dementia Joe sure as heck isn't capable of de-escalating this, Putin nor anyone else is going to give him the time of day now.

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                                       Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                       And yet Biden just announced ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah... Cue the folks telling me how it doesn't matter..

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                                          abwilliamsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                          Not touching this one with a 10' turkey roasting pan!

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                                          Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                          It matters and will be as effective as the last time Biden announced a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah... or was it Hamas... or the Houthis... or Iran...
                                          
                                          Yeah... I have no problem telling you how it doesn't matter...

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                                          Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                          While the official statements suggest a halt in fighting, the situation remains fluid, and there are concerns about potential violations or renewed hostilities. However, the announcement offers hope for a more stable period after months of cross-border strikes between the two parties.  But they are still fighting.
                                          
                                          Regarding the ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah, it seems that while President Biden has publicly stated that a ceasefire is in place, Israeli officials have emphasized that any agreement must allow them to continue their operations if Hezbollah violates terms. Israel's insistence on retaining freedom to act within Lebanon is central to their security concerns, as any deal without this could be devastating for Israel's strategic position. Meanwhile, Hezbollah has indicated that while they are open to negotiations.
                                          
                                          It does not appear an agreement has been made --- maybe Bden was confused.

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                                       Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                       You said a mouthful!   We were right on the brink...  I really have a hard time even thinking about these sorts.

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                                    Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                                    Agree! I can't even imagine what it would be like to have a mindset that can't stop ruminating on the past and predicting doom and gloom for the future.

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                           Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

                           He feels he won... period

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      gmwilliamsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So sad that we have people who are childish instead of adults.   Come on now, the definition of an adult is to accept what is positive as well as what it deemed to be negative.    I am laughing at this.

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         Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Hi Grace, 
         I just had to share this—it's so clear that some people are struggling to cope with the outcome of the election, and it’s like they’re having a meltdown, desperately in need of therapy. It’s unfortunate that our society, once known for resilience, now has a segment that can’t handle challenges to their ideologies. Worse, they seem to think it’s their right to demand that everyone else tolerate their chaos.

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   Ken Burgessposted 2 months ago

   Americans may get another reprieve from the march toward insanity and decline with another 4 years of Trump...
   
   But I find it hard to imagine that we can clean out "The Swamp" the "woke" ideology pervasive in all our higher learning monoliths and the rampant corruption.
   
   If America is the Roman Empire of our day...  it is soon to enter into its Caligula era or worse ... I believe the last 4 years was a preview of worse things to come, when Trump's time comes to an end... Bidenomics 2.0 will be rolled out under a new name.
   
   I am too old, the fight is for the younger generations... I'm going to go find some nice quiet corner of the world as far away from the Roman Empire and its machinations as I can get.
   
   I appreciate the good economic climate that will come with Trump's 2nd term... but I know how bad things might get when his time is up... the last 4 years are fresh in my mind... I have no interest in being around when they draw out another 25% of value from the Dollar when he is gone.

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   Readmikenowposted 2 months ago

   When I see articles like this I want to scream "Grow up!"
   
   It's time to put on your big person pants and deal with life like an adult.
   
   Your candidate lost. So, what? Get over it! Move on and quit being such a drama queen. 
   
   When obama won a second term I wasn't happy.  Many people around me weren't happy.  We didn't go to get counseling.  We KNEW life would go on.  There would be other elections and the future would change.  It stung for a few days and then we went forward and lived life.
   
   Letting a loss control your mind and emotions is simply weak-minded and emotionally needy.  I, and many like me, get tired of living in a society that caters to the weak-minded and emotionally needy who simply need to grow up.  Losing is part of life.  Letting it take over your life is just plain sad.

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      And yet all we heard, everyday of the Biden presidency, is whining and complaining.  Putting absolutely every move he made, word he said under a microscope. And folks are surprised that you will now receive the same?

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         Readmikenowposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         The democrats let a man with dementia run the United States and did nothing.  The democrats ignored what the American citizens and the world saw...a man with serious cognitive issues. biden became an embarrassment and a joke because of his cognitive issues. 
         
         We won't start about the harm done due to illegal immigration. 
         
         Complaints about democrats and biden were very warrented.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            "Complaints about democrats and biden were very warranted."  So agree--
            
            Mike,   Given the extreme challenges we’re facing—such as a struggling economy, millions of illegal migrants, many with criminal records roaming our nation, the breakdown of values fueled by leftist ideologies, and, worst of all, two ongoing wars—I believe anyone who’s unhappy with what we’ve endured has every right to feel more than dissatisfied. This corrupt administration has even demonstrated its willingness to shield a president who is clearly suffering from dementia. It’s deeply concerning. Frankly, I think anyone who refuses to acknowledge the harsh realities of what this administration has done might genuinely need some form of mental help.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            I must laugh—it's hard to take seriously when people are still focused on political losses when there’s been so much to worry about almost every week under Biden’s leadership. The challenges the country has faced, from economic instability to foreign policy crises and domestic divisions, have been more than enough to keep anyone on edge. Yet, some are still consumed with the aftermath of an election loss, ignoring the real and pressing issues that demand attention.

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         wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         People learn.  Dems cannot simply use their bag of dirty tricks and not expect others to repeat them.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Mike, in 2020, I did extensive research on Biden, hoping to put together my usual pros and cons list that I use for every presidential election. I’ll admit, I was biased—not only because I was very pleased with the job Trump did during his tenure but also because I’ve been around long enough to remember Biden’s 50-some years in Washington. I never approved of his time as a senator and could probably write a book on his antics and phony behavior. So, yes, I was very unhappy when he won, to put it mildly.
      
      That said, I can honestly say I moved on. I watched him bring the nation to its knees, and no, I didn’t seek therapy over it. I also agree we’re living in a society that tends to cater to the weak-minded.
      
      My main concern, however, is that anyone who was deeply invested in Harris winning might struggle to remain unbiased and perform effectively in a role supporting a president whose policies and ideologies are entirely different from their own. This kind of personal bias could lead to a lack of motivation or even resistance when carrying out tasks aligned with Trump’s agenda. A biased employee could undermine the implementation of his policies by neglecting duties, introducing inefficiencies, or subtly opposing key initiatives. This dynamic could significantly hinder the administration’s ability to function cohesively and achieve its goals.
      
      I want the change I have been promised, as I am sure you do. We need a very cohesive team to implement Trump's difficult agenda.

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Mike,   I understand your frustration. It can be incredibly disheartening to see people let a political loss dominate their emotions and actions to the point where it affects their ability to function in government. When individuals are unable to move on, it creates a toxic environment where personal feelings overshadow professional duties, especially in positions that require loyalty to the elected president's agenda. It’s especially infuriating when those who were vocal about protecting democracy seem unable to accept the democratic process when their candidate loses. This lack of emotional maturity and the inability to accept defeat appears counterproductive to the greater good, making it difficult to envision how those individuals can effectively serve in a new administration. As you said, such behavior strikes me as weak-minded and emotionally needy, which has no place in a government that demands professionalism and the ability to serve all Americans impartially.

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      Ken Burgessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      We used to lock up the threats to society... today we cater to them.
      
      We used to call insane people lunatics and protect society from them... today we make them protected minorities and infringe on 'normal' 'functional' people in society and force them to accept insane people not just as normal, but as protected above the needs and interests of others.
      
      The decay and decline of our society is DEEP... supported by our "higher learning" institutions as well as our ideologically driven federal government.

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   IslandBitesposted 2 months ago

   Your candidate lost. So, what? Get over it! Move on and quit being such a drama queen.
   
   SMH
   
   
   

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Oh yeah, the talk about the inability to accept election results is especially rich

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         wildernessposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I don't recall hearing of any universities that had to hire extra consellors to handle the stress of their children seeing "Biden" scrawled on the sidewalk.  No one brought in puppies to sooth the feelings of Republicans when Biden won.
         
         And no government agency hired extra counselors and mental health experts to calm Republicans that lost to Biden.
         
         Why not, do you think?  Was it because the losers then were actually adults in their own right or because Democrats don't care about the needs of others?

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   Credence2posted 2 months ago

   This is all pretty dumb, if you ask me. Trump, in my opinion, is a jerk, always has been and always will be. But right now, I am the opposition just as the Biden Bashers were over the past 4 years.
   
   Damn you Rightwingers, your candidate denied the true  outcome of the 2020 election and brought his syncophant GOP party along to share in the lie. The scum of humanity stormed the Capitol building in Washington on January 6, 2021, what sort of derangement syndrome is that? And you all have the nerve to speak to the left and Harris supporters about being cry babies? Yes, you can expect me to pummel this man Trump in both print and word till he is unconscious.  But what have any on us done that got your pants in a bunch, to date?

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      Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      "This is all pretty dumb, if you ask me. Trump, in my opinion, is a jerk, always has been and always will be. But right now, I am the opposition just as the Biden Bashers were over the past 4 years."
      
      I’ll admit it—I’ve criticized Biden throughout his term, and I stand by that. His policies and decisions during the last four years deserved scrutiny, in my opinion. But here’s the difference, and I see it clearly even here at HPS. Cred, you’ve been going after Trump non-stop since 2015. You didn’t let up during his presidency, kept at it during the four years he was just a private citizen, and now you’re already laying the groundwork for your complaints before he’s even sworn in again.
      
      Do you see the disparity here? Criticism of Biden stems from his record in office—his actual tenure. But this fixation with Trump? It’s gone beyond politics. It’s an obsession for many on the left, to the point where it feels like they can’t function without tearing him down.
      
      Maybe it’s time to take a step back and recognize this for what it is. There’s no comparison between calling out Biden for his track record and the unrelenting, years-long crusade against Trump, no matter what he’s doing. It’s worth reflecting on where that energy is coming from—and why it’s still going.

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         Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Cmon, Sharlee, are you serious are you really trying to make a distinction between 6 and half a dozen?
         
         2015 Trump deserved to get on my sh**list, he had already attacked Obama with all of this birther crap. He attacked an Hispanic judge on purely racial grounds. I have nothing positive to say about ANY racist, period.
         
         As for his term of office, 2017-2021, I say that his tenure was abysmal.  Am I picking on him? I don't think so.
         
         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori … ted_States
         
         I share my opinion with the Presidential historians and scholars that reported Trump at the bottom of the list or right next to it.
         
         So, do I believe you and a handful of rightwingers or do I believe the scholars who know what they are talking about and make relevant  comparisons.
         
         https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histori … ted_States
         
         I think you will find that Trump's place in history is corroborated by any source that you choose to investigate.
         
         
         I don’t even need to mention the felony convictions and the sexual abuse matters, that no one aspiring to the highest office in the land should have on their record. The discordant lies and provocations associated with Trump after 2021. So, no Sharlee, I could not be more correct in identifying Trump as an abysmal menace, now, yesterday and tomorrow.
         
         And with that background, his threats, and proposed policies, I have nothing positive in his regard to offer right now or into the future unless he proves otherwise and that would be a challenge in itself.

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            Sharlee01posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            "I have nothing positive in his regard to offer right now or into the future unless he proves otherwise and that would be a challenge in itself."
            
            I think that is fair.

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   abwilliamsposted 2 months ago

   Amen Ken!
   Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!!
   This is the perfect season for mending, healing, and counting our many blessings!

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