The mind of a Marine and The mind of The Messiah---A view =)

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underhiswingsposted 14 years ago
Mind of Messiah =

No greater love does a man have but to sacrifice his life for his friends and fellow man, no matter who they are.

Mind of Marine =

No greater duty above the sacrificing of his own life for the lives of his fellow Marines and the lives of others.

Mind of Messiah = Always Faithful

Mind of Marine = Semper Fidelis

Perhaps both defy logic.
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  cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'm a Marine and your God damn Right...
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  Daniel Carterposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  There's just too much irony in this comment, cheaptrick.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  They both defy logic.
  Humans are defying logic all the time. (Marines are humans.)
  That's why the world is such a mess
  
  Messiah is an Idealism
  so it defies logic per se.
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  cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Untill YOU experience combat and watch your brothers die around you your opinion means NOTHING!How can you apply a philosophical bullshit statement to a Pragmatic experience where you die if you stop to THINK let alone be logical?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  What does all your comment has to do with my post ?????
  
  And if you are a marine and in combat you didn't stop to think or use your logic, it's a miracle you're alive !
  
  So don't give me that kind of BS to me !
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  cheaptrickposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  When a Marine goes through boot he is trained to go on Automatic,no thinking or logic required or do you suppose we wave a white flag so we can think of the logical thing to do.Again,if you haven't been there don't act the expert.Your statement that "marines are human,thats why the world is such a mess" is an Insult to the Good men who gave there LIVES so you could have the freedom to engage in blind and insensitive statements.And yes madam I am most assuredly a Marine.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I didn't say that marines were the ones that made the world such a mess.
  I said 'humans'
  and in brackets , 'marines'. And I said 'marines for marinwalways, of course!
  Isn't this thread about him ????
  
  Why don't you read properly ???
  don't you know the word IRONY ??
  GIVE ME A BREAK !
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Randy Godwinposted 14 years ago
Wow, that is so deep! Did you make that up yourself. Perhaps you are ready to make that big step and actually write a hub. By the way, why are you here?
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yoshi97posted 14 years ago
Actually, I prefer the old Hubpages over the newly found Marinepages.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  But, isn't there something to be learned?
  
  Then, if you don't learn- Aren't you forcing yourself to be ignorant on purpose?
  
  All knowledge, regardless of what form it comes in is to be absorbed and understood for what it is?
  
  No knowledge gained from learning can be useless.
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Your point relies on the term knowledge. I agree with you in the general principle, but not in the particular application. An intelligent person can sift through the dross and find value in most anything. However, the ability to do so does not make the dross itself less, uh, drossy. An unintelligent person, unfortunately, can't spot dross for dross and typically, well, they usually embarass themselves, albeit, by the grace of God, often without realizing it; the irony being that "you don't know what you don't know" even when discussing knowledge itself.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You make an assumption that at least some people are unintelligent.
  
  Who are you to judge whether or not someone else's intelligence is anything other than what it is? When you make assumptions on unrealized information, it's usually wrong, as you are now.
  
  Learning is the process in which we gain knowledge, "knowledge being everything we know" and happens to be reinforced by understanding, "understanding is the wisdom to understand(to realize what it means) everything you know".
  
  This is the only way to remain true and honest with oneself and be on firm foundation for forming beliefs, which are based on factual truths, mankind has as a collective.
  
  You live your life in any other manner and you'll stumble thru life, all the way to the end.
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you saying all people are of equal intelligence?
  
  I never said I judge anyone's intelligence as anything other than what it is. Observing behavior is not passing judgement.
  
  I'll grant you this point, even though "usually" weakens your point, being unquantifiable and all, and the phrase "assumptions on unrealized information" doesn't actually mean anything (it's like your thesaurus threw up on you right there).
  
  You'd have to A) identify what it was that I said that you are saying is "wrong" and then B) prove it to be wrong, neither of which has occured.
  
  Yes, and...?
  
  You almost have an complete idea here between this part and the one above, but the connection isn't made. Still, I think you're going for an overall positive message, so I won't dissagree, but I still have to call this a non-sequitur.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's obvious, there is a positiveness to what I said. How ever, when people make an assumption? It means 'unrealized information' or knowledge isn't known in it's entirety.
  
  Therefore- "assumptions on unrealized information" is a properly understood statement if seen in the context for which it is written and not how you come to perceive it.
  
  You interpreting my words is useless, without asking to me to explain, because your individual faith is going to force you to ask more questions. I don't speak cryptically or hide what I am trying to explain.
  
  I live by my conscience, I am always honest in my actions and I protect and love mankind's people and their potential. All I seek is to spread knowledge.
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then it's redundant. An assumption by definition requires an absence of information, ignorance. You are basically saying "assumptions based on ignorance." That's like saying "heat based on increased thermal energy" or saying "wet with moisture."
  
  If you don't speak cryptically or hide what you are trying to say, why will my efforts to interpret your words be "useless?" Regardless of whatever my "individual faith" is, if your message is clear and well made I should be able to understand it, whether I agree, disagree or some of each.
  
  That's great, and I'm totally with you on all of it except the knowledge part. You've brought that up a time or two now. I'm still waiting to see what all this knowledge you have to spread is. I like knowledge.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Are you not paying attention to everything I've posted?
  
  I'm not surprised. How ever, you have the nerve to try to interpret what I say. You're pathetic too.
  
  Why don't you read everything I've posted here and other place, and get more information. Everything you need to know, I have already said, somewhere....if you're that interested, then seek out the knowledge yourself. I don't need to explain myself or what I say to you, when I've already put the knowledge you seek into the world.
  
  Guide yourself and go find it.
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I was paying attention to what you wrote here. I guess I assume you intend to say what you mean when you write stuff. Silly me. Clearly I am supposed to be bedazzled by obscurities and nebulous pseudo-logic.
  
  I haven't tried to interpret anything. More like tried to make sense of it. Vagaries and random assembly of multisyllabic nonsense does not make tea leaves of your text.
  
  If you want to put on the Internet Messiah costume, that's fine, but name calling will blow some of the magic off your mystery. You can't claim to have all this knowledge that you're putting into the world for the humble masses hungering for your beneficent gift of wisdom and then let yourself get so easily rattled by someone who asks a few questions and points out some inconsistencies or omissions in the things you write to the point where you start calling names.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Rattled? By what- you? Ha.
  
  You're truly funny. I don't see any need to repeat myself in different forums. I'm tired of doing it and since you're not willing to seek out what I've said- simply proves you're nothing more than any other. Use your faith to cover up your own fear of life and death.
  
  But, thanks for playing. Greatly appreciated, I learned a lot from you.
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  Shadesbreathposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  More nonsense. Why on Earth would I want to fish about in the vast sea of every forum post on HubPages just to see if I can find some scallion of knowledge from you? (What a delightful little cyber ego you have going there.) However, if you want to get sharks to swim after the tasty chum of your brilliance, you have to bait the water first. So far the only thing I'm scenting on the waves is effluent.
  
  However, as amusing as all that is, if you had something to say, you'd say it, or, given your great fatigue from all the knowledge sharing you've bequeathed upon the masses, at least you might have directed me to some particular piece of genius that I might have gone there and be enlightened unto etc.
  
  And WTF is that last part about the fear of life and death? lol. So random and disconnected with anything. I read that and got this mental image of you in your messiah costume standing like Marilyn Monroe on that grate when the air blew up... just, you know more of a total loss of dignity than sexy, but otherwise, the same. Good stuff, thanks for that.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Crazd said marine got banned too. Looks like his last forum post was almost 24 hrs ago. His current "forum" is his latest hub, Scientist/Monkey.
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habeeposted 14 years ago
Oh, Yoshi, u no like?
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  Randy Godwinposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You've got a 100! cool!
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h.a.borcichposted 14 years ago
I am with Yoshi
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terrowhiteposted 14 years ago
Ohh is that so Yoshi?
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habeeposted 14 years ago
Hi, RD. Yep, I'm in shock. We've been out all evening. I got home and went to HP and saw it. I'm trying to enjoy it now - it won't last long!!
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  mistyhorizon2003posted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Congrats on 100 score Habee, you deserve it
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habeeposted 14 years ago
Thanks, Misty! So do you. Many hubbers here deserve a score of 100, IMO.
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underhiswingsposted 14 years ago
Can we not hijack the thread ??
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  rmcrayneposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is this thread sacred, and immune from hijacking where others are not?
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Uninvited Writerposted 14 years ago
And I'm sure marinealways agrees with you
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  emievilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Speaking of marine, where is he?
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mega1posted 14 years ago
Man, some hubbers' children! Let's just chew these subjects to death! Doesn't anyone want to go shopping? How about a game of jacks? tiddlywinks? semper fi!
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Jeramiposted 14 years ago
Cagsil said You make an assumption that at least some people are unintelligent.

Who are you to judge whether or not someone else's intelligence is anything other than what it is? When you make assumptions on unrealized information, it's usually wrong, as you are now.

Learning is the process in which we gain knowledge, "knowledge being everything we know" and happens to be reinforced by understanding, "understanding is the wisdom to understand(to realize what it means) everything you know".

This is the only way to remain true and honest with oneself and be on firm foundation for forming beliefs, which are based on factual truths, mankind has as a collective.

You live your life in any other manner and you'll stumble thru life, all the way to the end.
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I could not have said this any better. ...
You should read this and fully understand this mr. Cagsil
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Really? WOW!
  
  As per usual, you're not really any help.
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Justine76posted 14 years ago
didnt somebody want to go shopping?
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
Internet Messiah Costume

That was funny !

Hey cagsil !
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Tantrum,
  
  How are you today?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  WET
  
  It's raining !
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Shall I photoshop you a new avatar Ray?
  
  Isn't Internet Messiah one of the songs from Hair?
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  If you feel the need to Jen, be my guest.
  
  And, "Internet Messiah", don't know.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'll be firing it up later to do some graphics...
  I feel slightly inspired...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Then you go with your inspiration and do what you feel is correct. Therefore, I'll leave it in your capable hands.
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Tantrum, if you don't soon get a new avatar I'm gonna fall in love with you.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  Be my guest !
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
You are such a wanton vixen!
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  I'm innocent !
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Cagsil doesn't know. I'm gonna lie down and die now...
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Deep breath... in, 1-2-3, out 1-2-3...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You do realize, you're mocking efforts are being wasted on me, when you could be using them on or in more meaningful ways.
  
  I've never claimed to have all the answers, everyone wants.
  
  I have claimed that I have ALL the answer I need for my life. How ever, that doesn't mean, I don't have anything to learn.
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Thanks, Jen. I don't feel quite so dizzy now.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  what were you dying for ?
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  It's not as bad as it may seem.
  I'm pretty sure Einstein himself would look at me, shrug, and say "Don't know".
  
  I should maybe stop living on the fringe...
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Cagsil is mad at me... I am very sad.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Mad at you?
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Is that what you really think?
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tantrumposted 14 years ago
I love the drama !
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Isn't it so much fun? NOT!
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
We all need a good drunk. Here I am!
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Where were you yesterday when I needed a good drunk?
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  ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  busy, now I'm busy gittin' drunk an it's Niteriders fault. I got into my hidden hootch.
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Yep, I'm pretty sure tantrum loves the drama. And yes, I am very sad. Sack they call me.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  hmm...
  
  I hate to see you sad Sack.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Don't be sad !
  Cagsil doesn't deserve your tears !
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Thank you, my love.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Hey ! hop here with me !. Let's have fun !!
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
Ralwus, that hussy tantrum is giving me the old tease. Smack hi... her will ya?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  ??????
  R U afraid ??
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  ralwusposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I'll spank her for me, not for you. That's yer job. LOl Sheesh! I'm gittin pretty high here already.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
I'm afraid that you're rejecting my love.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  i'm not !
  you're toooo serious, mon ami !
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Niteriterposted 14 years ago
CC, you're my hero! I have to depart now. Work calls. Best wishes to all.
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Bye Niteriter
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Take care
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
Tahnks for gettin me drunk.
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
I think I may fall of my chair now, the moonshine is too much!
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like you got ahold of the good stuff
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I had nothing to do with what Ralwus was drinking. He had that himself.
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  wyanjenposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  You're saying that you are NOT the Designated Driver To Drink?
  
  There are quite a few on the forums that can drive me to drink.
  It seems like many of them are absent, these last three days...
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  Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this
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ralwusposted 14 years ago
I did, now I'm havin strong coffee. LOL
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wyanjenposted 14 years ago
Ahh, but you do not know what lurks beneath the surface...

May it be Bailey's? Kahlua perhaps?
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glendoncabaposted 14 years ago
Religion forum gets a bad rap because people do all their venting here.

Imagine i took this place serious when I first arrived on HP.
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underhiswingsposted 14 years ago
I must have overlooked the comments from Marinealways24 ?
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underhiswingsposted 14 years ago
Did you comment in here yet Derek?
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  
  He's busy trying to put his ideas in order.
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  underhiswingsposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  I just thought maybe he missed it.
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  tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this
  You're too kind, under!
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