if u says ISLAM is wrong so y this?

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   errum fattahposted 14 years ago

   In my neighbour hood their son was arrested in the blame of corruption but he was innocent they tried alot for him but they didn't got anyway,m so the last hope for them was ALLAH. we muslims, when need any help or wants that our this work should be done very quickly then 12 womans read surah muzamil in the silence with no any voice if the name of ALLAH or MOHOMMAD(PBUH) appeared on that thing which we keep in the centre it means tht our work would be done quickly, samething we did than the name of ALLAH appeared in the milk rice and their son was free after a day this was a miracle for us and it makes our belive more strong. if jesus is God than y the name of him didn't appeared and y the name of ALLAH only appeared n did our work. iam sure if any non_muslim was there than he would accept islam.
   
   y jesus only come in the dreams of muslims y dont he comes in the dreams of christians. y he's only favouring muslims against anybody else? cuz he himself is a muslim n he'll favour his own people not his enemies.
   
   i heard about shah ali mujadad that he's a great wali ALLAH(frnd of Allah or good man of Allah) when i searched abt him than i get that watever he says to anybody or watever he order to anybody that person do that, without thinking a second, his advices are most precious. a woman says abt him that 'My neighbour hood frnd who told me abt him says that her brother was first a not good muslim and for him wine and all bad things were his life, his family was very worried abt him and when they listened abt haddath mujadad  ali shah then they went towards him and told him their problem and wat the surprising thing happened that haddath mujadad ali shah only says to that boy ' be a good muslim' and then that boy turned towards islam and now he's shining in his faith and he's having a mark of moon on his front head, this mark is only on the people who r the most precious for ALLAH.
   
   there was another man who saw moses in his dream and when he wakeup he was having such a great anger face but in true he was not, u had heard tht moses was having very much anger so samething happened with that muslim man. samething, that moses and jesus only likes to come in the dreams of muslims not in the dreams of thier enemies.
   
   we muslims when wants any advice from ALLAH  for our any thing like if we wants to go on any travel so is that travel good for us or not, for that we want advice from ALLAH, and for that we do istakhara, then we get a right advice. many people i have seen had did it.
   
   In ramadan some people spent thier last whole  10 days of ramadan in the way of ALLAH, in my language i call it as a aitakaf. my sister did it when we asked abt her days she says that these days were the most beautifull days of my life adn again a miracle happened she says after the last day she saw a man in her dream saying that ur aitakaf has been accepted.
   
   u have listened that in ramadan satan is prisoned adn u have also watched many muslims good at ramadan, if in ramadan satan was not prisoned then the muslims would not be good isalmic as much they will be in ramadan.
   
   i had seen many people on whom deomons were lover adn they were worried about it, adn to get free from it many people had burned that demons by surah's, like ayatalkursi, surah cow adn many others so y these demons are not killed by the name of jesus or moses y they are burned by the name of ALLAH or by surah's surely they r scared of ALLAH.
   
   my aunt saw mohommad(pbuh) in her dream, the meaning of this was 100% same as mohommad (pbuh) says how in south asia.
   
   y people r accepting islam, our mohommad(pbuh), requested three prayers when he was going to die adn among them two were accepted by ALLAH, in that of two one was that, tht islam will spread whole our the world adn now u r watching that islam is spreading and people r saying that in 2012 islam will be the largest religion of this world.
   
   i can tell u many marks but i think if in those i will see positive remarks than i will tell u severals miracles of islam. these all r 100% true cuz i have seen them from my eyes, its my deauty to tell u cuz iam a muslim. now its ur deauty, wat will u do, now u will be responsible for ur deeds. if u belive its good for u and if u didn't belived than i think u should study more about islam adn if ur again, will not belive than its depending on ALLAH if he wants u to b muslim or not.
   
   many of non muslims thinks that ALLAH is a cruel or wicked like there was a man earn who expressed that but i want to tell him that if u will think that ALLAH is cruel than he will b cruel with u and if u will think that ALLAH is a kind than he will show u kindness a great kindness, which u dont know. look ALLAH is a kind one, before starting any work we say the name of ALLAH, the meaning of that sentence is
       iam starting with the name of ALLAH who is the most mercifull and the most beneficient.
   now u look that there is not written only mercifull or beneficient, its written the ' most mercifull adn the most beneficient' so nobody is most mercifull adn beneficient like him, so please now change ur thought adn think that ALLAH is mercifull, he will show u great kindness if u will accept islam. ur last and ur start is shining and bright if u accepted  islam.
   
   nowadays people belives in miracles so those r some miracles.
   i have observed that christiasn or jews who r stricked in their own religion they likes to study abt all religions adn its the good habbit of them.
   
   LOVE ALLAH LOVE MOHOMMAD(PBUH)LOVE JESUS(PBUH) LOVE MARRY LOVE   MOSES(PBUH).     
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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes well, a lack of food will make anyone delirious.
      
      
      
      Yes well, we've all heard of the world ending in 2012, no need to remind us.
      
      
      
      Yes well, we know it is your duty to lie.
      
      
      
      Yes well, the Abrahamic god is pure evil as most already know. It's one of main reasons there is a New Testament.
      
      Islamic propaganda is so much fun.

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      qwarkposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Errum:
      Pls explain to us why you believe in allah?
      if you take the time to do this for us, will you pls "define" allah/god for us in other than opinion and conjecture.
      Do you think you can handle that and do it with logic and "intellect?"
      I don't think you can.
      If you can't then I must think that your belief in this allah/god is based soley upon "hope."
      Go for it.

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         errum fattahposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Why i belive on ALLAH?
         cuz he's the real God, i thanked to him that he made me muslim,
         Allah is the one who gives me life, family, parents and when I read the ayats then it makes my belief strong on him, And the miracles r the common examples. How many miracles i can tell u here, i did. and these r hundred% true. Please go to the deep of islam, u will find it true.
         
         well, I dont know in which sense u r saying to expalin u about ALLAH,
         
         In turkish the word 'el' MEANS THE 'the' and 'elah' measn 'God'
         so teh word ALLAH itself means the God.
         u can also read the marks about qiama or doomsday when it will come? the marks which Islma and ALLAH had explained now are coming true, u must know the people with small height called yajooj majooj they have been found in teh great wall of China. And the marks which christanity and other religion had explained are not coming true except the marks of islam. Actualy nowadays people wants miracles to belive in it, so am requesting u to find 'MOHOMMAD NAME APPEARED ON MOON'  or 'MIRACLES OF ISLAM'  i can provide u the ayats but i think u people depends upon miracles more than ayats. And one thing more important that no any bird had ever dared to go up to the khana ka'aba.
         
         can u explain in which sense u r saying to explain u abt ALLAH.
         i can provide u the explanation.

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            Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Your parents told you to.

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   errum, have you considered the possibility that you may simply be another religious zealot with nothing to offer but crazed rants like this?

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   errum fattahposted 14 years ago

   oh really?
         i can offer something very strong i got but i know u people, would not belive in that. I had experienced a lot of it, i will not have any problem to present that but i think u would have great problem with it.
   
   i think u forgeted that how u people makes fun of verses of quran.

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      mythbusterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      errum fattah,
      
      is it possible for you to consider and honour that the respective beliefs of those of Muslim culture and of Christian culture perceive of the world in a different way - rather than one culture but not the other is "correct" in interpreting spiritual works and texts?
      
      For example: if you and I describe a stone - the same stone, would you be more correct than I if we have different words at our disposal for making descriptions of the stone? Or would I be more correct if I know more adjectives or am more comfortable using metaphorical references in describing the stone? Or...is the stone the same and we'd have different concepts about the stone?
      
      ie: if you said the stone is round, shiny and black (let's say it's obsidian stone), and I say it's dark, spherical and reflects light, would we be at odds then because our language use is different and our descriptions use totally different words?

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I've long noted a strong 'Jr. High Debate Club' aspect to Muslim 'defense' of Islam. It's almost as if faith alone weren't enough and there was some need to 'win' the 'debate' over Christianity and Judaism.

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   LeanManposted 14 years ago

   I had a message written in the milk of my breakfast cereal as well this morning...... It said if god wanted to talk he would find a better way to get to you than organising your sugar puffs into words!!!!!!!!
   
   What a load of twaddle!!!

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   stephensaldanaposted 14 years ago

   I say its not only Islam but all the communities and religious people who preach war, anger and illegal activities are the destroyer of whole mankind.. they must not be spared at all..

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   LegendaryHeroposted 14 years ago

   I went here like you told me in the other thread. But I'm still not seeing any miracles.

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   errum fattahposted 14 years ago

   u think to see the miracles or read them?
   
   well, these miracles are hundred percent true, n as a muslim i am speaking true, what i said in last if u didn't belived than i think u should study about islam and search about it, u may find amny miracles in youtube, google, yahoo adn other websites.
   
   then u will observe that the miracles of islam are strong than the miracles of another religion. though, no any other religion's miracles were there.

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You may believe them to be true, but you've never witnessed them so all you have is faith in a book, which isn't proof of any truth at all, as is your claim of speaking the truth.
      
      
      
      One book of myths has no "strength" over another book of myths.

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         errum fattahposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         barking dogs never bites

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            Ghost32posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I don't know about the religious arguments on this thread, but I do know that barking dogs can be quite capable of biting.  As a youth, I was only every bitten by two dogs--though "none" would have been preferable--and both of the dogs who bit me were definitely barkers.

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               Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Which was worse, the bark or the bite?

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         Sab Ohposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "You may believe them to be true, but you've never witnessed them so all you have is faith in a book, which isn't proof of any truth at all, as is your claim of speaking the truth."
         
         
         YOU believe lots of things you've never seen.

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            Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Such as... ?

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   Valerie Fposted 14 years ago

   There is one error in this. Jesus has appeared to Christians over the ages in dreams and visions. So has Mary and a variety of other saints, and I'm not talking about potato chips that happen to look like somebody's face.
   
   I do believe in miracles, and while I'm generally more skeptical of visions (because they very rarely are anything other than products of the human imagination, in my opinion), I do believe that real miracles and real visions aren't restricted to people of any one religious denomination.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend Valerie F
      
      Have you yourself seen Jesus or Mary in dreams? Please share your experience with us.
      
      Have you asked such Christians as to how do they look like?
      
      I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Why is it no one can agree on what he looks like if he's been seen so many times? They can't even agree on his skin color, but maybe it's because we dream in black and white.

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         PackSecureposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I dream in color.

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         Valerie Fposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Or maybe Jesus always appears as "one of us," regardless of what that may be. To the oppressed Catholics in 19th century Ireland, he and the others who appeared with him in Knock were all Irish. To the oppressed Christians facing the prospect of genocide in Vietnam,  Jesus and Mary appeared as Vietnamese. To the poor and oppressed Juan Diego, Mary appeared as Mexican. From Jesus' first appearance as a poor and oppressed Jewish carpenter, he's set an example for all saints to follow of identifying so thoroughly with oppressed people to the point of actually being one of them, regardless of what they may happen to look like.
         
         I know of no credible vision of Jesus appearing as a wealthy politician.
         
         As for the things I've seen and heard, they were responses to my own personal questions and prayers, and I don't care to talk much about them because I don't believe in making a public spectacle out of private revelations.
         
         I also very firmly do not believe in any nonsense that if you say this prayer so many times, you'll get exactly what you want. That's superstition, it's treating God like some domestic pet we can train and order around, and often what we want isn't what we need or could ruin a better plan.
         
         Like as for why God doesn't save every poor child from starving? Because it's in everyone's best interests if we stop being so lazy and selfish, and we get up and feed the poor ourselves. It's not like God hasn't given us any resources.

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            Beelzedadposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            That really makes no sense. Why should a god give people the resources to feed other people when those people should already have the resources themselves from the same god?
            
            Circular reasoning.

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   goldenpathposted 14 years ago

   
   Kumbaya!

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    WizardOfOzposted 14 years ago

    I saw God in a dream, he said, Son, I do not exist.
    
    Seriously though,
    
    to OP and other zealots out there, I'm thinking mohitmisra, deborah sexton, aquasilver, whoever else you know who you are,
    
    just because you write an essay for a post doesn't mean what you are saying makes any sense, it doesn't give you any more the image of a sane rational thinker and it doesn't take away the reality that your belief in god, allah, jeebus, whoever, it is not reality.  Reality is that you are so narrow minded that you cannot see the hypocrisy of religion.  Zealots expect respect for their beliefs but do not respect those who disagree.  This goes at least as far back to Judaism as it says in Numbers (or maybe deuteronomy, one or the other) 'kill those whom are not of the same religion.'

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Don't let yourself get confused about religion. I know its complicated and it takes serious reseach to completely understand all that religion stands for but hey, being an atheist or humanist is about praying to yourself. Believing you are the center of the universe and what you want is all thats important. It's a little selfish but lets just call it self-serving.

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          WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I almost pity you but I just don't care enough.

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             sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             You don't have to do anything that doesn't support your ego, we understand.

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       Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Wiz, i like your respondent approach.
       However, might I remind you that any area of the Ism is subject to thinking/consciousness/parallel, by each ones assumption of their own vindictive ideology of critical logic.
       
       A true philosopher knows both the classic & romantic nature contain portions of logic, but not an unbiased view of it. Science is none the better than his wife, religion.

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          crmhaskeposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          "Science is none the better than his wife, religion." -> finally someone else says it!!

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             Twenty One Daysposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             `ello shake. Have been saying it for years, but their justification of it beats me on the feet with reeds! (y-ouch)
             
             the Ism -being Duality, now turned Quality, is still a sore husband and passionate wife (classic/romantic : equation/sensation).
             
             Glad someone noticed and echoed back.

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          WizardOfOzposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Funny how the stock response I receive on any comment against religion involves something about science.  My life is not ruled by science and science is no god to me.  Some of us don't require metasystems of belief to go about our day.

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    Niteriterposted 14 years ago

    Hey, sneako! Did you know that goldenpath thinks you're thin? Fill me in on your secrets because I want to be thin like you!

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       He's a very kind and loving friend and I wish I was! Don't let my sexy good looks fool you!

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    Niteriterposted 14 years ago

    I hear that all the women here love you too. That's what REALLY gets me fired up with envy!

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       sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Now I know you're messing with me!

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