Why can't people discuss race in a productive manner?
Thank you! Yes, I agree the definition has become much broader today. This perversion of the original definition helps to facilitate the childish "my team does it, but yours does it too!" rhetoric that is abundant throughout this thread. And you are also correct about racism not being the cause of the Transatlantic Slave Trade. That was simply a pragmatic solution to a problem that faced the European Aristocracy. They had tried using poor white Europeans as a labor force during the 15th century in their newly conquered territories, but the Europeans could not withstand working for prolonged periods in the heat of a tropical climate. Many of them died. The dark skinned Africans were physically more suited for the task, and so the evil progressed from that point.
Pope Nicholas V helped to create and promote the concept of racism. And it was obviously an effort to provide justification for the conquering, dispossession, and enslavement of the darker races, and non-Christians. It was much easier for the European peasant to accept the horrors of slavery if he believed it was "God's Will" for the "inferior" races to be subjugated.
Intelligence and wisdom do not necessarily come out of a book or a Cracker Jack box. Intelligence is the ability to think, to reason, to be creative, and to have a capacity for critical thinking. A cockatiel or a parrot can memorize and play back words and phrases. Today there are many men going to and fro about the Earth with Masters Degrees; arrogant men who are about as bright as a wet book of matches. A word is not solely defined by what is written in a Dictionary.
A word and it's definition are nothing but placeholders for a thing, a person, or an event. And in most cases, these definitions are only basic outlines, or a starting point for understanding. At the Eurocentric public school you attended, I am sure no one ever explained that to you. And so, based on your commentary, you not only misinterpret some of what you read, you also believe that a definition in a book is the end all, and the be all of the subject, or event the word is attempting to describe.
At the end of this post you will find Websters definition of "man". Here they have defined "man" using 136 words. Anyone living today who thinks that a man, a human being, can be defined with 136 words, is beyond repair. The definition of racism, like many definitions you will find in Websters Dictionary, can only be truly defined and understood through experience. There is no other way. And that experience teaches us that racism has a color, and that color is the color of the oppressive majority. And here in the United States,that color is white. It is very childish for white Americans to become angry when confronted with the truth. If you want to be angry, then be angry at your ancestors. They are the ones who have forever tainted the legacy of the white man here in America. I have explained this all before, and in detail. But I will reprise and paraphrase an analogy I made in an earlier comment that helps to explain why this could never be:
Suggesting that a Black man can be racist, or that a white person can experience racism in America, is as absurd as suggesting that sexual relations with a blow up doll is the same as a having sex with a real woman.
Being a minority, it is impossible for me to be racist, even if I tried. Furthermore, I do not feel superior to anyone based on race.I do not feel the need to discriminate against anyone based on race, nor am I offended that white people are living on my continent. I am only offended by evil. You are the ones who are attempting to write my story, and promote a false narrative that I am filled with hate and anger. When someone makes such wild accusations about a stranger, it only mirrors what is in their own heart.
When a President declares war on an enemy, it is rare to hear someone accuse that President of being filled with hate; even when he sends soldiers that will not only kill the alleged enemy, but soldiers that will also rape and kill innocent civilians. But when an individual declares war on evil; not with weapons of war, or with armies that will rape and pillage, but with strong words and good intentions, the first thing we see are people coming forward to express that said individual is "filled with hatred", and "full of anger". And of course, this is done in an effort to silence that individual. But I am filled with the truth, and I am full of understanding. And if I do not profess the truth as I have witnessed, then I will one day have to answer to a higher authority. I will have to explain my indifference, and my cowardice, for this is my station.
Before the end of this year, more innocent people will die. Many of them will be children. These people are more important than flags, imaginary borders, or stupid songs that glorify war and the beginning of hell on Earth. All of this evil around us begins in the human mind. Even if a demon stands behind it, the evil seed must first planted in the mind of a man before it can be made manifest. To change the world we must first change our minds. We must learn to separate fact from fiction. And it is a fact that America has been on the wrong side of history since the very beginning. And until a majority can accept the truth about an evil past, they will not be capable of destroying the evil that exists in the here and now. And ultimately, it will consume us all.
Definition Of Man According To Websters Dictionary
a (1) : an individual human; especially : an adult male human (2) : a man belonging to a particular category (as by birth, residence, membership, or occupation) —usually used in combination <councilman> (3) : husband (4) : lover
b : the human race : humankind
c : a bipedal primate mammal (Homo sapiens) that is anatomically related to the great apes but distinguished especially by notable development of the brain with a resultant capacity for articulate speech and abstract reasoning, is usually considered to form a variable number of freely interbreeding races, and is the sole living representative of the hominid family; broadly : any living or extinct hominid
d (1) : one possessing in high degree the qualities considered distinctive of manhood (2) obsolete : the quality or state of being manly : manliness
Many here have viciously, and with great glee slandered and ridiculed the messenger.And many have called out hateful names. But they may as well call me the "The White Man's Moses", as I am attempting to lead you away from the precipice. But for me, there is no shame if you do not follow, as I have fulfilled my responsibility.
When God is speaking to you, it is wise to listen. America is reaping what she has sown. 500 years of human bondage and genocide, followed by lip service about inclusiveness and equality, and laws written but only arbitrarily enforced. And to top it all off, the Imperialists continue in their quest for world domination, as they continue to celebrate and honor the evil architects of a squatter nation. What you see in the story of CSULA is a reaction to systemic racism; a symptom of the white man's disease manifested through defiance; an admirable attempt to balance White Power with Black Power. And because many of you refuse to acknowledge the evil of Manifest Destiny, past and present, this will only continue to escalate. It will continue because of mainstream America's refusal to let go of the evil; the evil lies of the past,the evil lust for material things, and the letting of innocent blood in order to satisfy that lust. Yes, mainstream America refuses to let go of the evil, but it is time to let go and let God. For if not, the American will wake up one day soon with nothing to hold on to but an American Dream, as he stares into the face of oblivion.
It is not uncommon for the American to hide behind soft words of reconciliation and togetherness. But the all inclusive "melting pot" being referred to is the final phase of genocide. And genocide comes in two distinct flavors: Physical extermination, and Cultural Genocide.
The primary purpose of Planned Parenthood is not womens reproductive rights, as that is simply a secondary benefit to women in general. The primary purpose is to keep the numbers down among the black population. Jim Crow was instituted in the South, not because the wealthy miscreants who profited from slavery hated black people. A man does not hate someone who has made him filthy rich through forced free labor. They had no reason to hate the African until the African became a Freeman. It was when the Africans outnumbered the whites in many southern communities, and they began to vote, that the white man began to hate, and fear the African. And that is when the lynchings began in earnest.
This is why Planned Parenthood is especially promoted and made available in black neighborhoods today. According to blackgenocide.org:
"Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?"
Those of us they have not killed, whether Black or Indigenous, are experiencing Cultural Genocide. We have been forced to speak European languages, and through social, political, and economic pressures, to embrace Euro-American customs and religion. When the man says, let's all be American, he is really telling us to forget about our own culture and our own identity, and to embrace the European, which of course, he considers to be the superior race. But that is just another American Dream. Apparently, many Americans are foolish enough to think that if they tell the same lie long enough, we will all start to believe it. Although that is the conventional wisdom, I am living proof it does not always work out that way.
I am not seeking acceptance from the mainstream, or to be included in their corrupt and evil system, as I am far above it. I am simply claiming my freedom from mental slavery, and I am happy to be free. Today I witnessed a stray dog doing his business on a fire hydrant. But I was not so offended, nor was I filled with hate ... because he is just a dog.
Are you serious? I'm as serious as the 3rd heart attack in an elevator stuck on the 4th floor. And how did you arrive at "American / European" relations? If you look a little closer you will see that's not what I'm referring to. Believe it or not, some people actually have their own ideas, and care about making a difference. Having "fun" is not at the top of my list of things to do. But please, you go right ahead and enjoy yourself.
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago
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First of all, you are propping up one strawman after another. I understand it may be great sport, but let's try to keep it real. The OP asked the question"Why Can't People Discuss Race In A Productive Manner?" Here I have identified one of the primary reasons: People are speaking the same language but using different, and often incorrect definitions. When I began to write articles for Yahoo some time ago, it stated in the Yahoo training tutorial that the average reader online was operating at an 8th grade level.
RANT...RANT...RANT
This word is misused even more than the word "racism". A lengthy explanation does not by default qualify as a rant. Yet, I have noticed that many respondents online typically define anything over 25 words to be a "rant". And this is yet another manifestation of the "fast food mentality", and the "soundbyte generation". There will come a day soon when the American will not have enough attention span left to tie their own shoe laces. Of course, the word is purposely misused as a slight against anyone the abuser might disagree with. But in spite of whatever catharsis such abuse may deliver, I find it to be as offensive to the abuser, as it is to the intended victim.
Analysis: THE STRAWMEN REVEALED
Katherine commented:
1.Can we cry on forever that the original people on this continent should have built walls to keep out foreign invaders from across the Atlantic?
I have followed this thread since the beginning, and I cannot recall anyone suggesting that the people should have built walls to keep the evil Invaders out. You have made the claim. Please show us the original comment that led to this question.
Katherine commented:
2. And should we blame ourselves for being born to the decedents [sic] who did not stay in their original areas/countries?
No one has suggested that anyone should blame themselves for being born the progeny of rapists, murderers, and thieves. You have made the claim. Please show us the original comment.
Katherine commented:
3.Should we lament endlessly that slavery ever existed or was invented?
It is impossible to discuss the racial discrimination and racial injustice that still exists today without reminding of the well from which it springs. It is easy for those not affected by racism to dismiss an old misery. But my life is not ancient history. My own parents had to arm themselves with guns, and fight against racism. And the evil that sought to remove them from their legally owned property was the continuing legacy of racism and slavery that began in 1492. The slaves suffered 24/7, 365 days a year; from the day they were born until they were folded back into the dust. I am sure that after a lifetime of servitude, many were not only tired of hearing about it, but also very tired of "being" a slave. But many white Americans are simply too weak to bear the burden of Michelle Obama mentioning slavery, or the thoughtful words of Ronnie wrenchBiscuit; he who has come bearing a cornucopia of remembrance to nourish and satisfy the human soul, just as the tasty fig and the sweet meats can satisfy the human palate.
Yes, Yes, and Yes, is the answer to question number 3. We should have slavery for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. The evil history of America should be a mandatory subject in grades K thru 12. And the why of it all is ever present, and all around us. It has been said that there is nothing new under the sun. And this is a great teaching. The violence in the streets of Chicago comes from the same source as the violence in Syria, Libya, Iraq, and Afghanistan. And that source is greed, and behind that greed stands the devil. It has also been said that if we cannot learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it. But a man cannot learn from the past if he does not study the past, or dares not to speak of the godless, and unwashed Invader, smelling of his own excrement, who came to this continent and defiled the image of God. There are old miseries all around us that emanate from the same evil source. Only a remembrance of evil can give a man the will to fight against it. And so, the evil man attempts to break the will of the righteous by admonishing him not to remember.
Katherine commented:
4. Should I agree that, because the majority of whites do this and that and the other thing, they are PURPOSELY evil and intentionally tyrannic over others who do not see eye to eye with them due to genetic differences?
Since no one has insisted that you agree on anything, this comment qualifies at least as a one-legged strawman. As far as anyone being purposely evil: All we need do is to tally the body count over the last 500 years. From the genocide of the Arawak/Taino, to the massacres at Sand Creek and Wounded Knee; from Gettysburg, to the killing field of Flanders; from the horror of Buchenwald, Auschwitz, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, to Palestine and Aleppo. Whether you agree or not, the numbers reveal that a snake still crawls on its belly.
Katherine commented:
Shall we deny the human ability to cooperate and respect one another once they find themselves together, despite their myriad of differences? Shall we not focus on our ability as humans with minds and hearts to change, adapt and GROW?
After 500 years of the same old song and dance, we can clearly see that such cooperation and respect is not forthcoming from the American mainstream. The continued celebration of evil holidays such as Columbus Day, the blind acceptance of U.S. tax dollars funding the slaughter of innocents in the Middle East, and the reaping of enormous profits by U.S. corporations as a result of that slaughter, illustrates that America is not interested in change, adaptation, or a positive growth that would benefit all of mankind. From the top to the bottom, America is mesmerized by the increase of her own fortunes, and from the lofty perspective of a weasel, that is all that ever mattered.
wrenchBiscuit Explains The Law of Gravity
You comment:
" The protection provided by the LAW (based on The Constitution) APPLIES to every US citizen. So, why do some folks tag and claim territories as though they NEED to?
The Indigenous were not "protected by the Law". The Law was to exterminate, and to dispossess the native people. And as we see today at Standing Rock, the greedy squatters still want more. And they will continue like vultures until there are no more bones to pick,.
You comment concerning the attitude of inner city gangs: "This is Our Area and you can't come here or we will KILL you ..."
How ironic , since this has been the attitude of the U.S government toward the Indigenous for nearly 250 years. And it has been the attitude of the Colonialists for over 500 years. Yet, you seem bewildered that the inner city youth have attempted to mimic their evil oppressors. This is just another example of the "chickens coming home to roost". Nothing but evil can come from evil. Many philosophers have spoken this great truth, as well as Jesus. America was founded on evil, and so it is now being consumed by it's own corruption.
Many do not understand the meaning of "Instant Karma", which is similar to the biblical concept of "reaping what you sow" in this lifetime. This is because it is easy for us to understand that evil would return to evil. But many are confused by the fact that evil also comes to the righteous, to innocent children, and to those like myself; men of a peaceful and gentle nature. And so, I will tell you why this is so.
A man has been imbued with free will. Otherwise, he would only be a biological machine. Although I believe many who are posing as humans are actually soulless meat-puppets who have been created for various utilitarian purposes, such as breeding, it appears that all men possess free will, whether they have a soul or not. It is because of this free will among men that evil will often reign over the righteous. A good man does not bring evil into his world, but evil comes of it's own accord. But there is a failsafe that exists here in the Earth that was obviously designed by our Creator. Many will explain this as "Instant Karma", or divine retribution. But whatever the name, it is what it is. I call it the "Law of Gravity". And in order for the Earth to protect itself, and all of God's creatures, it is God's will that evil shall always return to evil, and that corruption will ultimately consume itself. Of course, it is nothing less than perfection, as we see that the cancer, through time, also becomes the cure.
Does the law not apply and protect every American citizen? Do gangs feel they need a gang to belong to because they are defenseless against the world? Is this not a delusion on their parts? Shouldn't they keep themselves free of lawless activity so that they are seen in a good light by the police? Shouldn't mothers and fathers teach their children how to live so that they can prosper within a system geared for success and prosperity? Ha ha
I crack myself up!!!
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
Sorry, we don't own it. And the historical record verifies my claim. All the white privilege whining, all the reverse discrimination whining, all the Irish had it bad too whining,etc., etc.. Guess what? It simply doesn't matter! Why? Because it does not apply ... that's why. It's simply not applicable to the situation at hand. And here is the situation : The West Africans did not get in boats, or ships, and then travel north and invade Europa; they did not invade and conquer Europa, after which they enslaved millions of Europeans,and then killed as many as they could too! And they didn't continue to oppress the European over a period of over 500 years.
And during and after the conquest they weren't raping women , 9 year old girls, and even 3 year old girls, which is what the Americans did. No, the Africans didn't do that to the white Europeans.
And the Indigenous First Nations did not invade Europa, or conquer, and enslave Europeans either. The white people in Europa are still speaking their native languages, they aren't speaking West African, Tsalagi, or Nahuatl. The Europeans also aren't walking around with Aztec and West African surnames like: ACHCAUHTLI, ,HUITZILIHUITL, or TLAZOHTLALONI, or Gwandoya,Mwanajuma, or Kunto.
We are not talking about the Moors,the Chinese, the Arabs, The Russians, the Romans, the Vikings, or the Visigoths! Please, you can leave your strawman at home. I have a strawman detector attached to my hip. We are talking about "American History". The only race of people that has been terrorizing, raping, pillaging, murdering, and committing genocide on this side of the Atlantic since 1492 is the white European race. I didn't make this up, and I didn't do it. It's all on the white man.
He did the crime, now he can do the time. The black man was enslaved for nearly 400 years, and has suffered violence and discrimination at the hands of evil whites ever since. And it is the same with the Indigenous, except for the white man exterminated a majority of our population. If we can all suffer for 500 years, then the white man will have to be strong enough to hear about it for at least another 500 years. And if that is too much to bear, then take Merle's advice. "If you don't love it leave it". If it gets too black or brown over here for you, then get yourself a one way ticket back across the pond. No one is forcing you to stay. Since America has been so good to you, I'm sure you've got enough money to fly around the world if you want. But since the Muslims are taking over in Europe, maybe you guys could start a new country in Antartica. And that would be perfect ... because it's already all white !Oh man Wrench , I just love that last paragraph , that's it isn't it ? ....." If you don't love it leave it"..... . Merle Haggard 1960's all over again , How Ironic that you chose that song to sing today , Victimhood replaces tradition . Let's talk straight . Is That i all of the "victims " want ?
You are perfectly willing to take title to the despicable American landscape and all of it's worth the closer it gets to the dream world of "Reparations " and yet where were you when it was being built ? Studying the liberal arts ? Strumming "the answer is blowing in the wind "? No let me guess , you were serving at Little Big Horn ...........I just love the entitlement driven mentality popular today , Gimme gimme gimme .
Want some advice , contribute to something positive . Drop the victim mask , it doesn't even fit anymore.
Read the story BEHIND this monument sometime and learn the real truth of native history .
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
Oh! So Tamir Rice was the cause of his own death? Are you suggesting that a 12 year old child should have had the foresight to understand that playing with a toy gun in a public would be a death sentence? A white man here in Florida recently killed a man and a woman and was literally eating the man's face when the cops arrived.
According to the police:
"...Deputies were initially unsuccessful in getting Harrouff off of the victim with a stun gun and K-9 dog, officials said. Eventually, four deputies were able to pry him off and arrest him..."
With a great amount of effort, this freak was taken into custody "alive" after killing two people. Of course, he is white. Why didn't the cops "fear for their life" in this situation? We also understand from the account that he resisted arrest. The man had proven before they arrived that he was a homicidal maniac. Yet, even though Tamir Rice had killed no one, and was only 12 years old, a racist Ohio grand jury accepted that the miscreant cop had reason to "fear for his life". Tamir Rice was murdered within 3 seconds after the cops arrived at the scene. No effort was made to pull up at a safe distance and then instruct the child to lay down the toy gun. When you do the math it simply adds up to one thing: Racist cops, and a war on Indigenous and Black people.
As far as cops getting killed. Most cops are being killed by white people. And most of those killings are either revenge killings against bullies and criminals in uniform who have hurt or raped a member of someone's family, or dirty cops who are involved in the drug trade. Very seldom do the so-called "good cops" end up dead. And I have no sympathy for rapists or drug dealers, no matter what uniform they happen to be wearing. An Oklahoma cop was recently sentenced to over 200 years in prison for raping women while on duty. This is not an uncommon practice, and no woman driving alone should ever get out of her car when pulled over by a cop.
Here is the video of the evil cop, Daniel Holtzclaw ,being sentenced. Note how this "brave" officer cries like a baby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR3MDnpKjZ0
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
If this is all one's culture understands about progressive movements in a forward direction ...........
And then this
Or this , remember the L.A. riots ?.........
Then I say maybe it's time to bring out bring out the Guards and the fire hoses .
Enough IS enough !Rioting ,, looting , crimes against the public ............it never works . It always turns into thuggery on the sidewalks. While the elitist's wring their collective hands on the talk shows , while politicians hide behind the podiums , while Oprah and the rest of Hollywood has their emotional melt downs , ........... it's .time to drag out the fire hoses .
IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO WHAT CAN I TAKE FROM YOU !
You are parroting white racist propaganda. Jeremiah Wright never said he hated the white race, because he doesn't. His commentary was taken out of context in order to create a narrative. When you look at the video footage of the sermon in question, you see that he was talking about his hatred for evil; an evil that many members of the white race have perpetuated for more than 500 years. That is not hate, but simply the truth. He also spoke of the "chickens coming home to roost", and the historical record proves that he was also telling the truth about that. A Christian is supposed to love the man and hate the evil. based on his commentary, it appears that the Reverend Wright is a true Christian. Furthermore, he hasn't sent anyones's son or daughter out in a desert lately to die for Big Oil. Neither has he gunned down anyone's child because he "feared for his life". If you are looking for someone to demonize why don't you start with the demons?
In these videos Wright tells a truth many white Americans want to forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=208t80uceSg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYqrXVNfYUI
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
Well,Thanks! Anytime! I live near JPL.
We could meet for the Open House some spring.
I still need to find out what L. Farrakhan thinks. I'll add more when I do.
Speaking of a free pass: You'll notice that such people who have at least something derogatory to say about minorities, a black person, or black people in general, are never vilified and called out by a majority of the white respondents, or sock-puppets who are posing as black people here on Hubpages. It doesn't matter how off-topic they are. I am surprised he did not include something about Jim Jones, Fatty Arbuckle, Juicy Fruit Gum, or Halley's Comet. This is the same guy who commented that black people should be grateful that the Europeans enslaved their ancestors. And so, the silence of an evil majority speaks in a very loud voice. And I am sure you noticed that when these people are asked direct questions to back up there racist assertions, they never return a reply.
Two wrongs don't make a good breakfast in the morning! Institutional racism is as real as rain. Your distortion of reality is charming, but quite pathetic. And so, after reading your post, I stood alone by the palmetto tree, screamed at the surf rushing in, and then I wept. I support Black Lives Matter, The Black Muslims, A.I.M, Idle No More, and the Mexica Movement. But in spite of my contempt for white racists, the superior intellect understands that all whites are not heartless, ignorant, and uneducated. And I have found that white women, as a rule, are more intelligent than the men. I have consistently spoken out against police brutality, and the killing of whites by miscreant cops. I have posted about this matter on Hubpages,Facbook, Google+, and also in Black Lives Matter groups online. But ironically, I am one of the few people who has raised this issue consistently here on Hubpages. We cannot blame mainstream media, as they are only Capitalist vultures who will always follow the smell of blood and the color of money.
The blame for the neglect of this issue lies at the feet of white America. Many harbor ill feelings toward me here on Hubpages because I am good looking, intelligent, and favored by God. And I know the latter is true because I am good looking and intelligent, and I have been abundantly blessed. But now I will reveal a great teaching that no man can deny, not even "he's a jolly good fellow", the old man who lives next door to the Dairy Queen. Read, Learn,and Prosper.
Some Important Questions:
Prior to the glorious rise of Black Lives Matter, what white organization rose up in protest of the police killing innocent white people? What local church, or community organizations rose up in protest of the police killing innocent white people? How many white people organized across the nation and marched by the thousands in protest of the police killing innocent white people? They are the majority. What has been holding them back? The Honorable Louis Farrakhan organized the "Million Man March" in 1995 to place black issues on the national political agenda. What white preacher, politician, or community activist has organized such a march in order to place the issue of white people being murdered by cops on the nation’s political agenda? The answer is clearly evident: Not One!
You all know the answer to my rhetorical questions, and it is only shame on white America. The racist white Americans are more concerned with getting control over the "uppity Negroes" than helping to defend white people from corrupt law enforcement agencies. Ed Snowden, and Chelsea Manning, both of them white, stuck their necks out for the benefit of all Americans, but white America did not rally around Ed Snowden or Chelsea Manning. Instead, they threw them both under the bus on their way to the hair salon, and the shopping mall.
Black people are often stereotyped as being unmotivated, and playing the victim. But we can see that just the opposite is true. In the world of sports and music, where doors have been opened for black people, we see that they tend to dominate. As Ben Carson, Barrack Obama, and U.S. Representative Barbara Lee have illustrated, when the doors of opportunity are also opened in the world of politics and medicine, black people also excel. Over the years we have come to understand that in the world of social activism, the black man also dominates. It is the white racists who are now whining. They are the ones who lack the motivation and the skills necessary to organize and form a national movement to protect white citizens from killer cops.
Where is the KKK and the Neo-Nazis? They claim to be all about, and all for the white people. But it appears they are only interested in hating people, not helping people. The Klan will hold big rallies and burn crosses in condemnation of the black race, but I haven't seen them marching and protesting to stop the killing of their white brothers and sisters by the police. And of course, there is a good reason for this. In many cases they "are" the police. In 2006 the FBI warned that police departments across the nation had been infiltrated by the Klan. This helps to explain a lot of the violence going on in inner city neighborhoods. Much of it is being provoked and perpetrated by the Klan in conjunction with corrupt law enforcement.
White America! Now is the time to act! Stand up for white people! Stop whining about BLM and start your own "White Lives Matter" organization. Stand together in solidarity and protest the murder of your own kind by killer cops. But on second thought, it is much easier for white Americans to vilify motivated Black people, than to get off their butts and move a muscle.
Has a Godly man's progress been destroyed by regressives?
In the latest stats, Fox News is easily the top cable news channel, with MSNBC now coming in 2nd. CNN is in last place during the Primetime with Hillary Shills Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, and Don Lemon getting pitiful ratings. - TruthFeed
But, a Fox News reporter lied the other day saying a white cop shot the black man in Charlotte.
His ratings will go down.
The best thing I can do is spend time talking to God.- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
Wrench ,
"What white organization rose up to protest killings of whites by white cops ?.........blah blah blah "
Answer , None , perhaps whites aren't so easily incited by false media reports of police violence against their youth ., at least understand the law enough to obey a cop when he t\ells them to "Put down the gun ", and are capable of holding themselves responsible for their own acts , even THIER behaviorally entitled youth . ! And another thing , I'm not sure I even know a white cop shooting victim with a record of arrests that covers the whole gamete of violent arrests against others .
ahorseback and wilderness. It's not about one race shooting another race. Its about the Use of Force Continuum that has been adopted by law enforcement from the military Many cops across the country have been trained in this use of force technique. It works like this. A cop approaches a suspect and gives the suspect some type of order. If the suspect does not comply, the use of force is increased with each order given until it reaches the lethal level. At that point the cop shoots to kill. If any where along the escalation, the suspect complies the use of force is stopped at that point. The problem is anytime the cop feels his or her life or the lives of others are in danger, the escalation can be jumped to the top and the suspect is taken out to save the life's of those endangered.
This works great in the combat military scenario, but not so much in the civilian setting. That why deaf and dumb people and the mentally ill who have been stopped by cops are killed everyday.
wrenchBiscuit: The White Man's Moses
They are facts when they support your narrative and they are myths when they do not. Got it !!! I am the white man's Moses. I will show you how to exorcise the demon, and make your way to the promised land.
You don't know anything about a riot! Here is a list of a few "white riots" that have occurred here in the United States. And just for those of you who have a hard time with reading comprehension: When I say "white riot" I am referring to race riots where the instigators and primary participants were white people attacking black people and destroying black neighborhoods. Only in these riots, stores were not just looted and vandalized, but black people were murdered by white mobs, and in some cases black people were tortured and lynched. And why did these riots occur? Because of racism, that's why.
The stories reveal the sickening details, and expose the evil that has been pepetrated by whites against minorities, as well as the double standard that still exists here in America. The day black rioters torture white people, roast them over a fire while they are screaming like a wild animal, and then lynch them to the cheers of a mob of hundreds, and even thousands of black rioters, that is the day that white people will have something to whine about. What I just described has happened to black people on more than one occassion at the hands of an angry white mob. Now is the time for white America to repent, and to bring the dogs of law enforcement to heel. This must be done A.S.A. P., before all of your chickens come home to roost. Follow the links and relive the disgusting history of America. And then you can be proud all over again!
Omaha Race Riot 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omaha_race_riot_of_1919
Tulsa Race Riot 1921: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_riot
The Red Summer of 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Summer_(1919)
Atlanta Race Riot 1906: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_race_riot
The Chicago Race Riot 1919: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_race_riot_of_1919
If you are talking about Tamnir Rice, there is a good chance he would "not" have gotten the same treatment had he been white. You just called a 12 year old kid a "thug wannabe." If you are ever in doubt about the meaning of racism, just re-read your comment. Kids of all races have played with toy guns for years. I used to play with them when I was a kid. I lived on a farm and didn't know what a thug was. And when little boys play with toy guns they commonly pretend that they are shooting someone or something. Do you also refer to little white boys who play with toy guns thugs? They have also been known to play with toy guns in public parks and recreational areas. And are the little white kids who play war games on Nintendo and PC's also thugs? Have you seen the graphic violence portrayed in these games?
Your comment is a perfect example of why Black Lives Matter needs to continue what they are doing. Many white Americans simply don't care. It has since been proven that Tamir Rice was in possession of a toy gun. But you justify his murder because you imagine that he was a "wannabe thug" and in your mind, the 12 year old is responsible for his own death. As I commented earlier in this thread, a white man here in Florida was tased, attacked by a police K9, and then wrestled to the ground by 4 cops after murdering 2 people and eating a man's face! They went to a whole lot of trouble to take the white man alive. But Tamir Rice only had 3 seconds to react. At the age of 12 it is easy to understand that he had no clue why the cops were pulling up on him. Since the cold blooded murder of Tamir Rice, I hope that black children have since been informed by their parents that it is a crime to be black in America, and that a black person is always guilty until proven innocent. But as you have illustrated, even when they are proven innocent, they are still guilty of being black. And to top it off, you offer sympathy and support for the real thugs and the real murderers.
P.S. This meme features the quote of an educated and intelligent white man. There is no excuse, or sympathy for evil.
That cartoon is bigotry against the police whose job it is to protect the citizenry and also against Americans themselves. And thats fine, right?
NO.
If what we are dealing with is badly trained police then that is a different story and a new thread should be opened.
We really need to STOP with this "racism" B.S.
In this day and age it is negative pinpointing which needs to cease.
Lets look at faulty training or lax hiring standards within the police departments. Especially in areas where there are uncooperative, belligerent, attitude-showing, disgruntled-for-whatever-reason people.
( Usually the poor (which includes colorful and uncolorful people) who just can't figure out how to rectify their situations.)
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
News Flash ;
Most people stopped by police aren't shot . Why?
They do what the cop instructs them to do or , more importantly not to do .
They do not offer up a full plate of attitude .
They aren't pointing a gun at the rest of the world.
They don't have multiple police records of arrests.
They haven't just left the scene of a crime .
They haven't just passed a bag of dope out the window to a under cover cop.
They aren't bullying their way through the world.
Stop blaming the police for YOUR OWN personal accountability shortcomings .
My desire is to live in a free world, not a fascist police state. Most citizens who are stopped shouldn't be stopped in the first place. Many of the laws enforced by the police are immoral laws designed to extort money from the citizen. Two of the most egregious are seat belt laws and DUI laws. Neither of these laws protect the citizen, but instead rake in millions of dollars for city and state annually. More are killed by sober divers than drunk drivers. Furthermore, the threshold is set so low that an individual no longer needs to be impaired in order to get a DUI. Seat belts were designed to save lives,but the seat belt harness was designed to alert the goon squad, so that they can ticket the citizen.
Many who join the police force are below an IQ of 125 because many departments across the country will not accept any higher . Many of the respondents here would qualify. Studies have shown that people who are attracted to a career in law enforcement are commonly power hungry individuals. More than a few have been proven to be sadists and rapists. A miscreant cop was recently sentenced in Oklahoma for raping women while on duty. He received 263 years in prison. But just like Richard Nixon, he is not the exception. He is simply the one who got caught. In 2006 the FBI also warned that PD's across the nation had been infiltrated by the Klan. These are the people whom Americans have given power over their children.
Here is more:
A woman has sued for $70 million after she was raped in a Texas jail in March 2014 following a misdemeanor probation arrest. Though jail officials saw video footage of the rape, they only offered her a taco, refusing to provide access to a hospital.On May 29, 2014, Felipe Santiago Peralez, a former dispatcher with the La Joya Police Department, sexually assaulted the woman for hours in a cell at the La Joya City Jail, she claims in a lawsuit. Though she said she screamed in pain during the assault, no one came to her aid since all the other officers were on patrol, the lawsuit says.
"Peralez began an all-night invasion of plaintiff's body, by inserting his fingers, hands, and other objects into her buttocks and vaginal areas of plaintiff's body," according to the suit, reported first by Courthouse News.Peralez entered the woman's cell promising he "would make things right for her if she wanted to use the phone" following her arrest for violating her probation, the complaint says. Peralez proceeded to assault the woman, forcing her to provide oral sex before the encounter was over.
The woman said she told two female officers about the rape, and that other officers viewed surveillance footage of the assault, but no one offered to take her to the hospital for an emergency room examination, which is in fact Texas law for rape investigations.
These are just two examples of the evil perpetrated by these miscreants. The citizen has more to fear from the police than from criminals. The police can "legally" detain you, harass you, abuse you, rape you, and often murder you with impunity. It really doesn't matter if someone commits a so-called crime. The duty of the police is to arrest and to detain the citizen so that they may appear before a judge. Their duty is not to rape or kill the citizen. Neither is it their responsibility to punish a citizen for bad manners. If having a police force requires that we live in a totalitarian fascist state, then we are better off without them.
Here I will suggest one method of improving this situation, and making the streets safer for the citizen: Take away their guns and give them donuts instead. This will force the police to develop better social skills. But I cannot help the Americans unless they follow my advice. I Am The White Man's Moses.
Thanks for posting this. I couldn't see a way to share it other than the link to the page. I'm going to record this interview and archive it. What he said is new to me , yet also familiar. I am not surprised. And I am aware that many people get upset with the truth, but he is speaking the same truth my father knew, and the same truth I have known.
Here is an interesting Fox interview with Quanell X on FOX. He owns the white racist interviewing him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWgjYkfs34E
“I called you guys to come help me and you killed my brother,” the sister wails in a cacophony of grief to the police at the scene. “You guys killed my brother!” "You guys killed my brother in front of me," she cries, as Mubaiwa records the scene. "Why couldn't you guys Tase him? Why? Why? Why? Why?"
The sister had called police to the scene to get help for her brother who was not acting like himself, police said. Police confirmed, in the news conference, that the sister informed them in her first 911 call that the man was unarmed and mentally ill.
This evil response is a typical racist response. This is the spirit of evil slave-owners incarnate. And this is the type of racism that existed among the white community where I grew up. But the educated , or intelligent whites in my community were not so racist. It was the uneducated, and the people with low IQ's who were the worst. I became accustomed to hearing such hateful remarks. But even after moving to New York state as an adult, I also witnessed this kind of racist rhetoric.
I was performing at a redneck bar one night outside of Utica during the OJ Simpson trial . I was taking a break at the bar and one of the patrons remarked that Nicole got what she deserved for marrying a black man. But of course, he did not say it so nicely. As an entertainer, such incidents are very annoying, and disruptive. Since I am there in the capacity of an employee, I am expected to be nice to these people. But what makes it worse, I have to wear two faces, smile, and say thank you when they put tips in my tip jar. It would be nice if we could just send them to another planet.
No, not at all. It only means I am being pragmatic. White racists attend sporting events where the majority of players are black, but they still spend their money and enjoy themselves. It's not hypocrisy friend, it's simply the American way. Furthermore, considering your "feelings" about black people. If you were standing in the rain waiting for a cab, would you not accept a ride from a black taxi driver who pulled up with rap music playing at a moderate volume; a young man wearing a bandana , with an upside down American flag on his T-Shirt, and a picture on the dash of Archie Bunker with a stupid look on his face, and a rope around his neck? Of course you would, just to get out of the rain, and to get where you were going. As the great Jim Reeves sang,"Welcome to my world. Won't you come on in?"
That all looks good on paper , but we all know it isn't real. You are suggesting that if you were an independent contractor, you wouldn't accept a job from anyone who had differing political or philosophical, or racial views than yourself. That is totally ridiculous. And since a majority of the clubs I work are owned by whites and patronized by whites , many of whom are racist, if I followed your lead, then I would be starving to death and living in a cardboard box. Who do you think the emancipated slaves worked for. Do you actually think they could pick and choose their employment based on the moral character of their employer?
Furthermore, you make too many assumptions. Yes, as I have indicated, when racist remarks are made I find it troubling, but when that is not an issue, I enjoy my work. A great majority of the people I work for have no natural rhythm. And so, it is often quite entertaining, and rewarding, to sing and get paid while watching such a spectacle unfold before me. It's like manna from Heaven. Sometimes, I even tell them that they are great dancers, and they actually believe me, and tip me on the way out. Who could ask for more? And so, I count my blessings.
Yes,, you are right onhorseback. None of the above! In this case, as in many others, they were cold blooded murderers.
What you are saying is both true and false. It is true because you experienced it, but the implication is false. You will find the same type of behaviors anywhere there are large groups of uneducated people living in poverty. Race has nothing to do with it.
Even in isolated areas where there are poor and uneducated white people, such as Appalachia and parts of Kentucky, you will find even today a high incidence of rape, pedophilia , and incest. And this evil also existed among the wealthy slaveowners during the antebellum, as I am sure it exists today among the rich. Human trafficking today primarily exists to service the wealthy. If you had grown up in an affluent black neighborhood, it is unlikely that you would have had such experiences.
Show a positive image to everyone? Why? Is it so the white man will approve of you? After over 500 years it should be apparent to everyone that the white majority does not care about black people. It is ironic that white racists like to hold Dr King up as a role model. When he was alive they called him a communist, racial epithets, and threw him in jail. And the white man loved him so much they murdered him in Memphis. He not only presented a positive image, but he was about as good, and righteous as any man could be .But the U.S. government had him murdered, just like Malcolm X. Everybody thinks that black men murdered Malcolm, but that was only a staged event.
Everything that you witnessed in Oakland is the culmination of two evils: Capitalism and Racism.The violence in the inner cities is not the source of the problem, it is simply a symptom of the problem. The man in the photo is a Freeman Union Soldier that I raised from the dead. Here is what he looked like before he was resurrected. The wallpaper pattern I used is from the Civil War era:
You sir are quite possibly the most biased person I've ever seen on hub pages , Wrench , the great apologist of all evils known to man . Of course , everybody here knows that every evil known to man was perpetrated by white man !
Fortunately , we live in a day when DNA proves out that we are all multi-racial . That truly seems to escape your common sense . But then ,you are a person of much intellect , I'm sure only you know why , after all you are far out of this world in knowledge !
This man is my relative in the civil war Wrench , How about you got one ?
Do not be deceived. There are many so-called Americans of all races, including whites, who feel as strongly as I do about the evil of America. Everyone does not express their true feelings online , or in public, nor should they.
Everybody has an important part to play or they wouldn't be here. When I was young and ignorant I used to think that the little creatures that fly and crawl on the ground were insignificant. But now I realize they are just as important as I. And I am part of God's plan, just as you are. My place is at the head, and your place is at the rear, and both positions are equally important. It appears that many here are trying to understand the will of God, and so they are confounded, because a mortal man does not have the capacity to understand such things.
Jesus came to heal the sick, and to make the blind man see. I do not try to emulate Jesus, but I am favored by God because I do not live as a hypocrite. I do not pretend to love the killers of my people out of fear, or as a way to gain a social, or monetary advantage. Even now the progeny of evil is laying a great black snake through the sacred lands of Dakota. And because America has turned their backs on my people, pipelines are rupturing all over the United States and poisoning the environment.
And every evil known to man was not perpetrated by the white man. I have never said such things, and that is just a fiction you insist on promoting. But here is what I will say: "The greatest evil ever perpetrated upon this continent by any race, was perpetrated, and is still perpetuated by the white European race. That is not my opinion, but simply a verifiable fact. When you consider the damage in the cost of human lives, as well as the damage to the environment, the white European is presently the leader of the pack. But that is a distinction I would not aspire to, nor be proud of. Concerning all of the races on this continent: The white man in America has raped more women, stolen more property, and murdered more people than all other races combined.
Perhaps it is not possible for all men to be sexy, but it is possible for all men to free their mind from mental slavery. Nelson Mandela was locked in a white man's cage for 27 years. The evil regime of South Africa imprisoned his physical body, but that is all that they could do. When he sat in his prison cell, his mind was free and untouchable. And when he walked in the prison yard, his soul was still tethered to heaven.
And so, I will now read your life: Your days are growing short. Now is the time for you to free your mind from mental slavery. But please, this freedom that I speak of is not guaranteed to make you happy. For me, it is like having sex with a woman. She may not always make me happy, but she will always bring satisfaction. And we should not be so greedy.
- ahorsebackposted 8 years ago0
The competition of Rhetoric ;
Unfortunately , as most of this entire thread shows , ALL of the discussion of Racism today has morphed into an ongoing discussion of the competition of rhetoric , an aligning of ideology, Why ?
Because the original spark came from the campaign of a politician ! Pres. Obama + Hillary Clinton , in the last two presidential elections once Obama was the nominee ,The discussion of Race , became simple an issue of the attaining of VOTES.
Some very cute more minor issues in the discussion arise from rhetoric too. The shallow mentality of BLM for one , Why , as we all know now all lives matter ! I watched a social experiment on U-Tube last night where a white guy in an inner city neighborhood held up a ALM sign . All Lives Matter , he was attacked and literally run out of the neighborhood, . AND THAT IS THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF HOW BLM !........THAT ONLY BLACK LIVES REALLY MATTER- to blacks the most.
ALM , what about Asian lives matter ?
HLM, Hispanic lives matter ?
YLM ,young lives matter ??
SLM, sick lives matter ?
If the discussion were anything resembling truth in the seeking of true solutions , then this discussion would include and be expanded upon with such issues as , the incredibly higher percentage amount of abortions in black neighborhoods ,over one third of ALL abortions , it would find the importance of the percentage of fatherless homes in black neighborhoods approaching seventy percent [70%], the incredibly high percentage and recent increases of black on black crimes .
Instead the thread seems to be just one more thread about MORE , more sophomoric blame rhetoric , more collective blame of the white race , more call for needed entitlement , more about the "me "factor". More defensive posturing .
I would love to see just ONE thread about race relations that returned to the ALL accepted mentality and brilliance of Martin Luther King , MLK and His solutions , NON violence , educating everybody to the peaceful solution of true race issues. AND NOT THE INVENTED and INTENDED discourse and divide alone. All this thread is about is keeping alive a false rhetoric .Want a solution , stop discounting real issues .
First of all, you and many other Sons of the Pioneers don't pay attention. I have made several posts on this thread concerning abortions in the inner city, as well as violence. And as is my usual style, I did so at length. But it appears you would rather come with your strawman and rant, than to engage in meaningful discourse.
The phrase "All Lives Matter" is a racist slogan. The people promoting this phrase were doing nothing to help any of the victims of police brutality prior to Black Lives Matter. Nothing!
It is simply a racist reaction to Black Lives Matter. Most people recognize that the phrase "Black Lives Matter" simply means "Black Lives Matter Too". But of course, the racist, and everyone else riding the short bus have attempted to pervert the meaning to read "Only Black Lives Matter". But such tactics are par for the course.
In fact considering the current social context, proclaiming "All Lives Matter" in public is as offensive as the N-Word. And that is because all lives have never mattered in the United States. All lives did not even matter to Abraham Lincoln, who sanctioned the greatest mass hanging in U.S. History.In 1862 the "Great Emancipator" gave his blessing to the hanging of thirty-eight Dakota warriors in Mankato, Minnesota. And that hanging amounts to nothing less than a war crime. On the flip side, the evil Americans raped and murdered over 200 Cheyenne and Arapaho at Sand Creek Colorado in 1864.
Over two-thirds were women and children.many of the women were gang raped before being brutally murdered. But no one was ever held accountable for the slaughter of these non-combatants. And that is only one atrocity in a long list of horrors that have been perpetrated against my people by the evil Invaders. And of course, the black man's life has never mattered to the white man as well. And so I say to all of the evil racists: Please, by all means, go into the black neighborhoods with your hateful posters that say "All Lives Matter. I will enjoy reading, and watching the news reports.
P.S. Your shameless attempt to co-opt MLK's message is pathetic, But it is not uncommon for people to run out of bullets and then start throwing rocks. In context, when he said "all humanity" he was talking about people of color; the victims of racism, not white people living in the suburbs.
~~~> feeling willing to comply (from within/self) is not the same as feeling forced to conform (from without/others). I agree that forcing others in any way is taboo. In my mind, conformity is willing obedience (of the self) which is positively motivated by some benefit.
This is where you are confused:
"Conformity is a fascist concept not conducive to freedom. Conformity is not a bad "word", but it is a bad concept when it's purpose is to prove the inferiority of one race to another."
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The Return of the Antibody: I am the White Man's Moses
I am truly the white man's Moses, as I am leading him away from the brink of destruction. What a ridiculous notion you have presented! And so, you are suggesting that a any criminal should be pardoned for any crime, including a mass murderer, simply because many others have committed those crimes as well. And we also see more of the American double standard in your "patriotic" rhetoric. On one hand you claim that the white man is not responsible for the sins of his fathers, but on the other hand you claim that we are "all" responsible for the misery that has been perpetuated by systemic racism. It is quite arrogant, and foolish of any man to think that he could seed such a perverse notion in the minds of those who stand far and above his station.
The apologist for evil will often point out that the European slave traders were not to blame for anything, since the Arabs and the Africans also participated in the slave trade. And so, the white racist not only fails to recognize that on both counts the "demand" for slaves in America exacerbated the slave trade, but he has also become enamored with the fiction that 3 wrongs make a right! And this is a great teaching.
The apologist for evil has promoted the phrase "black on black" violence which is nothing but smoke and mirrors. This is racist terminology that turns truth into fiction. However during the Napoleonic Wars, France conquered Egypt, Belgium, Holland, much of Italy, Austria, a large portion of Germany, Poland and Spain. Out of the 8 nations mentioned all but one are considered "white" European nations. Since Napolean and the French are also considered "white", it would also be correct to say that there was an extreme amount of "white on white"violence going on in Europe during that era. And today, when we consider any impoverished area that is primarily populated by one race or another, we see that a majority of the violence in those areas is perpetrated, and suffered by members of the same race. This is elementary.
But the racist would have us believe that the black race, and the black race alone, should be condemned for what all other races are suceptible to. The racist fiction suggests that the black man is inferior because he cannot rise above what no other race has risen above. Finally, In many predominantly white areas such as rural Kentucky and New England, there is currently a drug epidemic of biblical proprtion among white people, and heroin addiction is at an all time high. When we look at the specifics, we see that white drug dealers and criminal organizations are primarily responsible for the flow of narcotics. Why don't the good white folks "Just Say No?" Maybe Katherine could answer that question. Perhaps they are not aware of the "red carpet?"
If not for the mercy of God, the white racist would still be wallowing in his own excrement. Yet, he continues to defile the image of God. Soon, all of these chickens will come home to roost, and then the Americans will truly have something to whine about.In the meantime , go ahead and cry on my shoulder, as I am here to comfort you with truth and knowledge.
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