Can someone list all the liberals that said they were leaving the USA if Trump won?
Will Obama be busy handing out pardons for the criminals?
He's actually pardoned more people than all presidents combined.
Mostly blacks (being the non-racist guy that he is) , drug dealers serving life terms.
Probably friends he had when he worked the streets in Chicago.
Omama takes care of his buddies, just like hillary killary.
Make 'muriKKKa Stupid Again! Buy reading the dumbass comments on this thread, we can see the goal is almost accomplished. For your cheap entertainment, please read the following comments left by these poorly educated rednecks that have a long tradition of embarrassing the hell out of this county.
Don't hurt them with TRUTH!!!
They remind me of my favorite Blue Belle Ice Cream "The Great Divide!"
But when the "presidential elect" pushes that "button," you are going to look for ANYONE to save you; REGARDLESS!
Welcome Back America!
Just what I felt like saying. Lol
Amy schumer coming to Canada, man she is hot. Too bad I have packed my bags for Bolivia since the dumb greedy bastards deseises will move much quicker into Canada now.
Yeah, for sure. The one certain result of this election is the confirmation of the appalling bias of MSM. I won't forget their absolute absurdity and the rigged polls. It was evident that Trump had won, but none of MSM dared announce Trump's victory even though it was plain to see, not until after Hillary called to concede and congratulate President Trump.
Not true. Where did you get your false information?
Obama's says he will catch up on Parsons but he's far behind George W. Bush
Well for one: Whoopi Goldberg, Rosie O'Donnell, Cher, & a slew of others. Now, the American people have spoken. It is quite a surprise that Trump is elected. Hopefully, he will restore America socioeconomically.
Can someone list all the things Trump promised to do during the election, so we can tick each one off when he fails to do them?
Not only are they losers but they are liars because known of them are leaving!
Your gloating is just fine with this Liberal. After a while you'll calm down, look around you, and then we can have an actual discussion about what the country actually needs. Until then, do what you have to do. We'll wait.
Amen "mind" which doesn't sound "green" to me!
The whole country saw liberals needing safe places and legos.
I've found mine - JESUS!
"For I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Christ: for it is the POWER of GOD unto salvation to every one that believeth ("rightly divided" doctrine)..."
If you "believed," you wouldn't "gloat" so IGNORANTLY!
Let's meet here same time next year and you'll be asking yourself the same thing Trump is asking himself "What in the HELL have I done?" (by voting for this man)!"
"The FIRST will be LAST!"
Scripture WILL BE "fulfilled!"
"But he that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord" (II Corinthians 10:17)!
No ma'am I have never been accused of being subtle. For you, it may be political. But not for me. I suspect you dislike Trump. I get it. But that does not make me a Trump fan club by default regardless of what you may think. I did not vote for Trump. But be assured that I would never vote for Hillary. What I am addressing are ideologies. Ideologies of shoveling it out and then calling themselves victims for instance. The same type of mentality that called you names, so insensitive I cannot even remind you of it, so personal and insensitive I question my own motives, when I called them on it. If you think Im gloating. That is your opinion.
You know Phoenix! I have always said "I voted for the LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS" albeit BOTH are LIARS (aka politicians) but the one who closest represent JESUS e.g. "CHOICE," providing for the less fortunate ("Love thy neighbor as thyself"), equality for ALL (to this best of man's ability) which aligned more with JESUS and HIS teachings so not political for me.
I don't dislike Trump as I've stated previously on HP "At least he's honest in speaking his dislikes and tells what's on his mind which is more than I can say Hillary!"
Whose "ideologies?" Blacks? Again those people were "made that way!" I don't have to give you the history of Blacks in America and if you're honest and "walk a mile in their shoes," you would agree!
When one is "IGNORANT" to facts be it religious or cultural, they fear the unknown and retaliate with "name calling" and "insensitivity!" Just people who don't know JESUS!
What I feel you do is "pick people's brains" to see where they're coming from then use to "insult!" I think I asked you once "Are you the psychologist for HP?" It's all a "mind game" to you! You may think it's "intelligence," but I will remind you what GOD SAID! Proverbs 6:16-19 "These six things doth the LORD HATE: yea, seven are an abomination to him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood (not "physical" murder only), An heart that diveseth wicked imaginations (Sounds familiar?), feet that be swift in running to mischief (Does this too?), A false witness that speaketh lies (Familiar?), and he that soweth discord among his brethren (This too?)!" Therefore, when you use your "intelligence" (Asking 1K questions to "pick brains!"), you work for Satan!
That is "GOD'S opinion!"
What do spoiled brats do? They through themselves down in the middle of the room and scream and cry. They never leave!
I didn't keep track but would gladly help them pack their stuff.
We can buy a cake and throw them a going away party!
They are not going to leave America though Who , that made their millions from US in Hollywood , who enjoyed riding the coattails of their celebrity , the pleasure of standing in front of the camera's and still do ? Who enjoy the plastic foothills of Hollywood and the canyons of NYC's central park views from the penthouse windows?
And go where ? Away from all that ?
No , my friends , we are stuck with them.
What a purely annoying bunch of celeb-cry babies !
Just read a piece about that suggesting that those promising to move to Canada , Had better check in with their border controls and immigration policies !
I live about thirty air miles from the Canadian border ..............I think I can hear them starting their own "wall "this morning !
Al Sharpton are a few.
Personally, I'd be more than happy to kick 'em in the butt as they leave. Give them a little incentive to move along a bit faster.
Surprising they don't want to move to Venezuela where socialism is working so well, or even to Mexico - which is a nice country.
But, if they don't leave, I think a special law should be passed to force them to keep their promise!
I don't know guys , some nations actually have standards!
They need gps ankle bracelet tracking devices. Then we can all download some app and track their progress all the way to the North Pole if we are lucky. It will be just like santa norad tracker at Christmas time! It will be just like a holiday
Dang, I was hoping there were more. Maybe they are waiting for the Mars shuttle.
A list is here: http://townhall.com/tipsheet/catherined … d-n2215391
I heard the Canadian mounted police are on high alert looking for hollywood liberals trying to slip into their country. Apparently they dont want them either.
I can only hope there will be no Canadian internment camps for disavowed Americans . ........Not !
Can we please call them American refugees ?
I think Canada should set up camps for the American refugees in the Yukon.
That would be ideal for the buggers - freeze their butts off!
Yeah, Communist American refugees would be an acceptable term.
Or Democratic Socialists flee a freedom loving country to set up a commune in the Yukon. That would be a good headline.
You'd better pray your presidential elect doesn't get upset with Russia or China which is more serious than running people out of the US for previous statements!
You guys always focus on trivia!
I pray he realizes he will be under a "global eye" and can't maintain the attitude he had in civilian life!
I hope he assembles a team that he will respect and "listen to" and not maintain the attitude he had in civilian life for Russia and China are watching and listening to every word he murmurs!
Ever heard of the the Battle of Armageddon?
Haiilary killary wants war with Russia. Trump wants to sit down and talk with Russia.
Only reason China'ss done well is the incentives for American countries to move there for cheap labor. U.S. stops buying the stuff they produce, China goes down the tubes.
Until they upset him!
US stop buying their stuff, guess what?
Hollywood Liberal Refugee Crisis.
With George Stephenopololopidous and Savannah Georgia reporting.
I like it!!
Hillary killary as their leader!
Obama would set up their healthcare plan!
Be careful what you ask for you just might get it!
Seems like Hollyweird is much closer to Mexico than canada. Hmm.
Rich hollywood liberals always threaten to move to canada. Why not run off to Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia or Qatar? If they are friends of Bill I bet the people of Haiti would welcome them with open arms.
Maybe we can make a trade or something. You can have Rosie O'Donnell and then you could send us a moose or something. A gallon of pancake syrup. You know w/e.
PS What would we have to give you to take Bill Maher off our hands?
Moose are pretty difficult to transport but I think we could swing the maple syrup. I will also give you my lifetime share of ketchup chips because they're disgusting but you might like them.
Just popping in to congratulate Trump voters on their awesome win. You have the presidency and the legislature. We are looking forward to all the wonderful improvements you will make to the economy, the tremendous job growth Trump will bring to our soon-to-be-great-again country (especially the manufacturing jobs he promised and you voted for), the mass deportation of 12 million illegals that I'm sure will start as soon as he takes office and the MILLIONS of jobs that will create, especially in the agricultural industry. Oh, and the wall, let's not forget the glorious wall that will be built with Mexico's money. I can't wait to see it! It will be tremendous!.
Lastly, when will Hillary be locked up? We all know she's guilty, no trial needed. The rigged government will just find her innocent anyway. FINALLY, a man who will take the law into his own hands and LOCK HER UP! Who cares about the justice system? It's failed so far. Oh, can we have a trial for the 92 murders perpetrated by the Clinton Mafia? Or, will that be dispensed with in the interest of justice? Lock her up!
Anyway, no way am I moving to Canada. I have lots of popcorn to buy so I can watch the Trump Train to Tyranny! I hope it starts on Inauguration Day!
If only you typed in the caps Lock mode , you'd sound like alternative power in that rant .
Come on fess up- You'll put in for the wall like you put in for Obama -Care won't you ?
No, the wall is a colossal waste of money, something I thought matters to conservatives. Oh, that's right, Mexico will pay for it. LOL
Interesting that you're calling my post a rant, when I am merely delineating some of the central policies Trump ran on and his supporters LOVED. Heck, they chanted "Lock her up" at the RNC convention! Are you saying you don't like that idea?
She should be locked up of course , What liberally uninformed like yourself can't seem to grasp or at least acknowledge , immigration is a double edged sword. There is the legal way and the illegal way , let them in , in controlled numbers by the gates as always but stop the internationally supported illegal influx!
I suggest , get used to it , stop giving unaccounted for foreign aid to Mexico - that will pay for the wall ! That and your income taxes.
Oh, I totally grasp that there is a legal way and an illegal way. I just wonder if you grasp the unintended consequences of a mass deportation of 12 million people?
I'll bet you something. If Trump actually deports 12 million people I'll do it. Whatever it is, within reason. You name it. You will have to promise to do the same when you realize it isn't going to happen, though.
Y'all are worrying about the wrong things. We have a presidential elect with a "hot head" whose fingers will be near "the button;" that should be your concern.
Unless he changes his character "overnight," you happy hunters are in trouble! We ALL are! Then who will care who left the US and who stayed? How many "potato chips" we can get for someone who "voiced their opinion!"
When will y'all "grow up?"
I know it isn't going to happen. Why did he say it would? The thing is, the core Trump supporter believed him when he said it. They voted for a lie.
Don't need a wall. Just need some real teeth in employment laws prohibiting illegals from working. And maybe a shutdown of freebie services - do those two and we won't need to deport hardly anyone.
Think Trump is smart enough to figure that out?
I've read many articles about the millions of immigrants the Obama Adm has deported. It has not been a favorite topic of MSM for some reason. I don't know that Trump will deport more, that might be hard to do because Obama has broke the records of other presidents from what I understand.
Obama and Hillary worked very hard to cast doubts and fears on a Trump presidency with the help of MSM. Yeah, don't report the truth.
This is truth. The Obama administration was the most efficient administration ever at deporting illegal immigrants. Far better than GWB. You get a gold star for getting it right.
Were you around when the Jonestown massacre happened , Look closely at this picture , There were 909 dead , mostly Americans when they drank the poisoned cool-aid of Rev.Jimmy Jones, I'm thinking 1978 ? . In the tears since 2000 something like ,and the number varies , 6000 people have died while crossing the southern border of America , mostly from dehydration . Men, women and little kids ...........That photo above is exactly what the likes what YOU support by an Open southern US border !
Please show me where I ever said I support an open U.S. border. It really is not nice to just make sh!r up out of thin air.
You supported a president who supported massively open borders , and then hypocritically say he deports in record numbers !
You're beginning to sound like him .
Facts are facts. They are not hypocritical. Obama did not support open borders. Are you really that uninformed? His administration deported illegals in record numbers.
Praying is the act of thinking you're doing something by doing absolutely nothing!
Lets face it , There Will Be No Deportation and you know that ! Deportation will only be those who have continuously broke the laws of our country and STILL stay here illegally ----Maybe !
Wilderness is right , we don't need a wall -Just a law against hiring illegally .!
That however is not what liberals see there is only utopia of no laws whatsoever or the Armageddon of a controlled immigration . Why the sensationalism . Who can guess the liberal mind?
Just checking. Have any liberals left or uhm fled the USA yet?
We're still waiting for O'Reilly and Limpbaugh to leave. It's been years since they said they would.
Didn't that POS Ted Nugent promise that if Obama got re-elected that he's be in prison or dead? We're waiting.
Yes, it happens every election, from both sides.
Their desire to have liberals out of their hair is a natural human response. Let them enjoy their schadenfreude. I have a feeling it will be very short-lived.
I truly wish everyone who hates and disrespects this system leaves America now , right , left , purple , black , green. For your own serenities sake- get out ! And yet , here is the first thing that those so entitled as to think its all supposed to go this way never quite get ! You will never attain the freedoms that you think that you don't own right now ,Inside of America
There are winners and losers for every election - Not just the one you lost .
Seems, with the rioting and burning of stuff after the election, we'd lose some demoncraps - which wouldn't be a bad thing.
For Trumps "deplorables" I see no rioting, no burning, just law abiding citizens.
Just the demoncraps, once again, breaking the law and harming others property.
Typical of that group's mindset.
Still wondering where you got your misinformation. It's important that our decisions be based on factual information.
http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/1387 … ost2851902
Oh gee, could that be because Trump was elected, perhaps? Why on earth would they be protesting the person they voted for being elected?
The Republicans would have been doing the exact same thing if Hillary was elected and you know it. Trump was encouraging it the whole time. People on here were posting about civil war.
Don't be obtuse.
Nope, haven't seen Trump supporters riot about anything.
You're assuming, which is typical of those who don't want to face facts.
Fact is, it's always democraps that riot, burn and destroy.
When was the last time you saw white, middle class people burn down the suburbs?
Or help destroy the inner city, which is usually populated by blacks?
I'll wait in high anticipation for your response.
"When was the last time you saw white, middle class people burn down the suburbs?"
Should I go ahead and grab pictures from some major sporting events over the past 20 years? White people frequently riot over the really important stuff - SPORTS!
How about All races rioting at a sports event . Not only biased but blind ? He's right if you had been around awhile you wouldn't be afraid to admit it , Young , entitled , liberal , socialist minded , wilding out , Is and has been the rioters of the our past .
"Don't be obtuse".
Those people rioting at those particular sporting events were all hillary supporters.
Do you have any photos of rioting going on at a NASCAR event? Then you will have a point.
I'm assuming you have something, ANYTHING, to back up the claim that every person who has ever rioted over sports was a Democrat?
He asked about white people. If you look at photos from sporting riots you'll see plenty of white people.
He also didn't like that I assumed anything, so surely you can't assume that none of those people were Republicans (please note that nowhere did I say they were ALL Republicans, either.)
It was in context of Trump supporters and then selectively white middle class was used as the counter. Then it just became white people was selected How do you know they are middle class? Arent all white people uneducated poor rednecks? When it behooves the argument? Rioting at sporting events is done by college kids that have massive student loan debt and vote for Bernie.
Hmm, nope, you'll never see me argue that all white people are uneducated poor rednecks. Unlike apparently most people here I am not big on making vast, unfair generalizations about specific groups of people.
Aime, have you got any room for me up there? I promise that I won't make a fuss about the gender bathroom stuff, HELP!!!!
Phoenix, that was a good one, you are funny. The problem is that the Borg image is probably more appropriate than not.
I like my race/species the way that is, thank you.
Haha, come on up! I'd say make sure to pack warm clothes but it's been 20 degrees Celsius all week.
Whats the exchange rate on that in American? Negative 50? Not sure how to cipher it.
That's about 68 degrees for you Fahrenheiters. Probably not that balmly for some of you but for approaching mid-November in the prairies up here it's almost unheard of (we're usually just above freezing at this point).
Been unusually warm here too. I'm having one day of fall and next stop winter.
That brings us to a topic we can all agree on: Climate Change!
I hope you like catsup chips. Apparently the food distribution system up there is i'm guessing by dogsled.
Now that all depends on what your definition of "white" is.
Wait until the US nation finds out that it is impossible to do the things Trump keeps promising to do. Corporatism could impeach him for the dollar collapses. Just hope 2 evils eliminate each other first. Some how rather a civil war and world war will be called to add to the insanity.
Hoping I'm just putting my head in the sand in Bolivia Cochabamba beaches, not bending over to kiss my arse goodbye from the fall out.
Since you don't live in the U.S. nor understand the politics, if I were you, I'd sit back and read responses.
No other country in the world has the dynamics of America. We are unique. It's difficult for those from other counties to understand, much less if you're an American.
Americans are either going to be a socialistic cesspool, or a freedom loving country. Trump is, possibly, looking out for the freedoms of the common person.
This liberal BS of political correctness and "hurt feelings" and bigotry only found in conservatives, is nonsense. Democrats are the biggest bigots of all - just look at the recent riots after the election.
We just got done with a bigot in the White House for 8 years. Trump, hopefully, will bring in some fresh air to the cesspool we have in D.C.
When we citizens of the U.S. figure it out, that will be the time to chime in!
I know you think criticism of America that you disagree with is equivalent to "hating America. "
But, you're wrong. As usual. We live in a country where our right to freedom of speech is protected by the constitution.
Get used to it, horse. It's going to be a long four years.
Me too horse and give it back to whom it belong - THE INDIANS! Where would that leave those who "fraudulently" took it?
Welcome back America!
The "right" thing to do is to GIVE IT BACK to whom it belongs; then see how many would be "left?"
That would be Adam or, because he's dead, his descendants. Which is everyone earth, is it not?
We do not live in a world of who has seniority. Its whoever has the biggest stick makes the rules. Always been that way. Give it back to who.
Everyone's probably waiting until January, flights are cheaper then anyway.
Well, we can look at it two ways "Give it back to whoever was here when 'Columbus' arrived" or "Give it back to GOD" then we wouldn't have to worry about "cheap flights" Aime!
Either way it would be "The "right" thing to do!
If we worry about who was where 600 years (worldwide) ago and everyone figure out which ancestor they want to identify with, and everyone go to that location wherever it is in the world, it would make for an interesting migration of humanity. It would be an ignorant endeavor, but interesting.
My ancestors are from all over but im pretty sure the Queen of England is sqatting on a 1/4 acre of my property at least.
She said we get to choose which ancestors we want to identify with so if you don't wanna deal with the queen you can just forget about those ones.
I had it narrowed down to Scandinavia or Morocco, but I don't like the heat so easy choice in the end. Maybe I'll still be allowed to go for vacations.
Yeah! I'd have to 'split' myself by way of Ireland, Africa, and the US! So I guess the easiest and the righteous thing to do is "GIVE IT BACK TO GOD!"
No "cheap flights" needed Aime! GOD teaches 'Quantum tunneling!' HE walked through walls didn't HE (John 20:19)? HE told us "Greater things than these shall we do" (John 14:12)!
We are "lacking" somewhere (me too)!
"Not that I've attained - I Press" ( Philippians 3:12)!
As I have some European blood, it is a near certainty that I also have some Neanderthal genes. I figure that they own the entire earth, being here before those nasty homo sapiens sapiens stuck their ugly noses into it all.
Mine! All Mine!
I'll simply choose my native American ancestors. The European side lost my interest 250 years ago.
It is all going to be about your ancestors, your eye color and having a good solid Anglo name going forward. I would stay out of the sun, if you can, lol.
Nigel Farage recently declared Obama to be a 'loathsome creature' on the basis that he had never showed enough love for the UK and had moved the bust of Winston Churchill out of the Oval office.
After his meeting with Trump, Farage declared Trump to be a 'wonderful man' because he often visited the UK and had promised to move Churchill's bust back.
If you don't think that this is:
b. only a few steps removed Stormfront
... then you have already been infected.
Not one liberal has left as promised?
Meanwhile Metallica IS leaving Liberal-Land in disgust.
Metallica is best known for being intolerant to easy listening music and being capitalist pigs.
Oh yes, Phoenix they are leaving..
That is why Trump is having trouble finding first rate talent for his inaugural gala?
But he can always call on Ted Nugent, the Morman Tabernacle Choir, or the 16 year old teen as second runner up on the TV program "America's Got Talent", who has mastered the gazoo.
But it is not just the libs, so far the only former living POTUS to have expressed the intention of attending the inaugural gala is Jimmy Carter. No Clinton nor Bushes, even Obama has not indicated that he would attend. To bad that the right cannot resurrect Ronald Reagan, perhaps he would attend?
This is just a harbinger of what awaits Mr. Trump, and he has not even assumed the mantle, yet.
My admonition to Mr. Trump stands: do not underestimate the power of the left, so watch your caboose.
Swamp people wont be attending? And in your mind this is a negative.
People that know me will attest that I like Carter. Probably only person who does. Habitat humanity etc. I guess he has class. Or he could be just happy obama has replaced him as worst prez ever. Spend into infinity, steal poor honest peoples income tax return. milquetoast teleprompter in chief.
You think Obama was bad, one that is far worse than he is coming in January.
Obama is a politician and all are bad. If Trump turns into one or is one he is bad too. If he gets us all killed it wont matter much anyway.lol
Hey, Phoenix, you are a 'stand up' guy and I like you. I promise that I will work in earnest to bring you back to "good side" of the force in 2017.
Besides all that, the very best to you and yours during the coming holidays...
Thank you Sir. Merry Christmas to you and all your family too. Maybe Trump wont be so bad. Ive see pictures of our new. FLOTUS. It looked like she had donated all her clothes to charity or something. Thats a political gift if I ever saw one.
I heard Trump has been very busy creating thousands of pages of new policy and changes. Volumes of material and centerfolds. Talk of adding on to the West Wing adjacent to the Oval Office something called a champagne room. Good things for 2017.
A "champagne room?" Oh LORD! That mixed with that quick temper? Someone please remove the "red button!"
Champagne Room, you got to be kidding? For all the GOPs talk of fiscal austerity, Trump is using tax payer dollars for questionable construction on the White House, while he pals up with Ryan to gut SS and Medicare. I can't wait, WE are going to eat him alive....
I have been trying to find a CENTERFOLD of his wife on the net, haven't been looking diligently enough....
Thats political ammo on a silver platter for at least 4 years. Michelle O. tried to get the youngsters to eat healthier foods and the parents and kids looked up to her. Now the teenaged boys will be looking up to the new FLOTUS pinned on their wall. Youve been handed a gift.
In the new age of Trump, testosterone is back in style.
I am sure that Playboy's Hefner, knowing that his audience is no longer interested in the 'girl next door look', will up his game and get the new FLOTUS to do a spread. I bet if the price were right, Donald would strongly encourage her to do it.
Funny that you would have something like that in your heart. Is that what you would do to your wife for money? I can't imagine any guy saying such a thing otherwise.
"Whatever a man thinks in his heart, so is he."
"Out of the abundances of the heart the mouth speaks."
Maybe your wife should be looking over your shoulder?
She has already put on the show.....
What I said makes more sense than Obama and the late George Michel being gay, where is your respect for the dead? Maybe, someone should be looking over your shoulder?
My spouse has less of an opinion of Trump than I do. So, you can spare me the sermon. Not in the scriptures, "but what is good for the goose is good for the gander."
Thats even worse. Trumps mail order bride can spread her legs for the entire world to see, yet Michelle Obama, supremely educated in her own right, has to endure content assaults to her femininity. She is criticized for wearing a sleeveless blouse in public, where does that double standard come from?
Why are guys jealous when a man has a beautiful wife?
I heard someone say that they heard from an inside source that Obama and Michael plan to come out of the closest on Jan. 21st. As if everyone doesn't already know, well except for people with their head in the sand.
Jealous? I am trying to find her, in admiration of her charm(s).
Well they 'held out' for a looooong time (8 years)!
Remember "Not for the color of their skin but for the content of their character?"
Hope Trump 'holds out' as well as they did!
Cre: You can't judge a book by looking at the cover!
This is true unless the cover is a centerfold, then I will have a pretty good what's inside.
She'll look as bad as your oldest relative (if not worst due to "lifts") shortly!
I was watching Michelle on the Ellen Degeneres show. Ellen was saying how wonderful she is. How many wonderful accomplishments she has done although nothing specific. How wonderful a person she is. How wonderful it was to have her on the show. It was wonderful. Unfortunately I slipped into a diabetic coma after that. Anyone see how it ended? Wonderfully?
I did not get to see the show. But what has Mrs. Trump done outside of being pin-up girl? But, I forget, she did graduate from Trump Unversity, Magna Cum Lotta.....
Its appropriate to be gracious. The point is, as you demonstrate, if it were a conservative guest, although highly unlikely at all, we could expect a hostile enviroment and cat fight. Then a SNL show skit about how funny it was and a late night show about how they had it coming.
So what? She is wonderful!
And you know, I hope Melania shows all of us that she's wonderful, too. Hating her husband doesn't mean I have to hate her, she's her own person. I don't know much about her yet but I hope that as time goes on she succeeds in showing everyone that she's not just a model, or a "mail-order bride" or whatever else people have superficially pinned her as. I hope she comes out and kicks ass, especially after seeing the comments on this thread (and the thousands of others like them floating around everywhere else, too). The fact that she took some revealing photos does not define her. I'm cheering for her.
Any liberals left yet?
Good night, good night until we meet again
Adios, au revoir, auf wiedersehen 'til then
And though it's always sweet sorrow to part
You know you'll always remain in my heart
When the Federal Government gets abolished, I will personally help them packed their bags.
All my bags are packed, I'm ready to go, I'm standing here outside your door,
I hate to wake you up to say good-bye.
But the dawn is breaking, it's early morn, the taxi's waiting He's blowing his horn.
Already I'm so lonesome I could die.
So kiss me and smile for me, tell me that you'll wait for me, hold me like you'll never let me go.
'Cause I'm leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again. Oh, babe, I hate to go.
Just living in South America, not looking at leaving the planet like some celebrities. I may be come back after the war. If they can balance out the greedy mental illnesses competition from the common man's cooperation.
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politi … ns-soaring
I know of a good few people who have applied for passports.
That said, it surprises me that these people don't realize one can't just go and live and work in another country. There is an application process which is very tough.
To legally live and work in any country (USA, included), you have to have certain qualifications, a certain financial standing, a criminal check, a medical check up, etc. It's also quite expensive (Been there, done that.)
One cannot just up and go and live in Canada, or Europe, or Australia, or South America. So while the sentiment might have been there, the practicalities are somewhat difficult to overcome.
That said, the people I know who have applied for passports have property in other countries or they have access to second passports as a result of marriage, etc.
The bottom line is that liberals (and progressives) won't be leaving the country in droves.
That said, after three or four years of Trump, Trump supporters might be applying for passports as well.
I don't think the average adult Hollywood liberal could survive a 1970s Grade School playground without having some kind of breakdown.
Why do you think that? I find the Republican view of liberals in America to be bizarre. Although I am more progressive than liberal, I would take on any Republican in the bush or anywhere else. I don't know where you get this idea that liberals are wimps. I find the lack of kindness, the lack of insight, and lack of compassion in American conservatives to be offensive.
I don't know many Republican woman who have put a rucksack on their back and gone into the heart of Africa, sailed down the Amazon, gone into the heart of India, etc I'm not talking about living in hotels. I'm talking about living rough, the backwoods, the places wher\e the locals go.
Today, I attended the Cape Minstrels in Cape Town. I was a lone white face amongst thousands and thousands of Cape Coloureds. Didn't worry me. Every day, I move on African transport, something shunned by conservative white South Africans because they are scared.
I'm not scared. I'm not really a scared person. I know how to look after myself. I am, however, called a libtard by Americans.
I truly, truly find your views confusing.
You find it odd that liberals are stereotyped this way.
Yes.. When I first came to America, I was absolutely horrified. I think it's fair to say that I left hubpages originally (and facebook) because I was called so many names for views that are the norm (or certainly were the norm) in Europe and the UK for most of my life.
I also eventually left America because of Republicans. I never want to live in a country where there is so much hatred and where I am constantly disparaged because I happen to have the values of a European. Those values are written in the Charter of Human Rights, something which America does not have.
I have been called every name under the sun for my views. So much for the land of the free and the home of the brave.
I don't get the issue with abortion. That has been the norm for half a century elsewhere. Then, again, most people in the first world outside America tend to be secular. I don't get the issue with gay marriage. Each to his own. I don't get the rejection of hard science, of climate change, of believing in mystical gods. I honestly don't get it.
I didn't realize when I went to America that I would be stepping back in time. I thought I was going to an advanced civilization.
You expect people to accept your views but you find other peoples views unacceptable, so much so that you have to flee Facebook. Because in your opinion, republicans and religious people etc, are uncivilized or behind the times compared to your progressive view of reality. You have not possibly met eveyone of them but the generalization is good enough. You base your beliefs on some unspecified subjective standard and everyone else has to abide that? You sometimes become disconcerted because people make assumptions about you and other liberals find this an egregious offense that should be punished while conversely doing the same thing to them, is this a fair assessment?
No, it's NOT the views. I might find the views somewhat outdated, but I wouldn't have had an issue with that. I have an issue with being called names, with being viciously trolled, something which I had never in my entire life encountered before.
They trolled me for my views. They didn't just disagree They called me every single name under the sun.
And, yes, what did you expect me to do? Carry on being trolled? I was incredibly upset at the time. I had never met such viciousness in my life . I had no idea how to handle it. Day after day, I was polite in my response, explaining it.
Did I get politeness back?
No, I got called names, etc.
So, you're entitled to believe exactly what you like. I really don't care. Not my life. However, when people begin to attack my character, and when that appears to be the norm amongst a lot of people, I have to reconsider my perspective.
In the end, I left.
The irony of that is that before I came to the USA, I was warned - repeatedly. I thought that the people warning me didn't know what they were talking about. Then, for the first few years, every time I met another immigrant, they would ask me what I thought of Americans. All of them thought that Americans had no idea how to make friends.
I met a guy from Jamaica who said he had been in America for 31 years, made an excellent living, but had never made a friend.
I met a South African who were massively successfuly in America. Owned a chain of restaurants. He said America was the hardest country he had ever lived in. I was flabbergasted. I asked him why as he had made so much money. He said that the money was the easy part, but that he had never made a friend, and it was a very lonely existence
So, in the end, I left.
I'm sure you're very happy to see me go.
The good part for me was that, through Google Plus, I eventually met many American progressives. You might call them libtards and wimps. I didn't find that. I found them intelligent, well informed, highly educated, well traveled, etc.
So, we have different viewpoints.
No, of course, I have not met everyone. I met enough, though, to eventually realize that America would never work for me.
As I said, I'm sure you're pleased to see me go. I understand that. That's why I didn't stay.
America was built on "control" via RELIGION!
GOD gives "Choice!"
Joshua 24:15 "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, "CHOOSE" you this day whom ye will serve..." HE didn't say "YOU WILL SERVE ME" but asked us to make a "CHOICE!" HE doesn't "pressure" ANYONE into serving HIM yet "desires no one is lost" (II Peter 3:9) and is "MERCIFUL" to ALL!
I believe there was the suggestion that this sort of God belief is a dull-witted primitive and uncivilized belief in a " mystical " being. How do you feel about that Norine? Do you feel disconcerted?
No pressure at all - just an eternity of torment if that "serve" is declined. No pressure at all.
An arrogant narcissistic personality incapable of subjugating will; multiplied times eternity is a horror show. what's especially cool about it is; by their own free will, they put the handcuffs on themselves.
They same they said of Jesus! "Comparing HIMSELF to GOD!" Thanks! I take the phrase "arrogant narcissistic personality" to be a compliment! My *will?* Which has more weight; *my* will or the WILL OF GOD? I prefer "handcuffs on myself" IF *HE* is in "control!"
TRY IT! YOU "WILL" like IT!
Yes "belief" that there is A CREATOR and the Bible is HIS WORD however I've found HIM not to be "dumb witted or primitive" since I've experienced HIS PROMISES in *my* life! Nothing "disconcerted!"
Having experienced, and knowing that "Greater things than these shall ye do" in this world; I'm not a FOOL! Consequently, who cares about "an eternity of torment" which one who BELIEVES will not face! Yes, "No pressure at all" but BENEFITS++++++
That is correct, now tell THAT to the religious right and ask them to keep their probosis out from the private affairs of other people.
It's our job (as disciples) to "REMIND!" No one is "pressured" into DOING anything! HE gives "Choice" and is still MERCIFUL by letting unrighteous people LIVE & prosper for HE "rains on the just and unjust" (Matt5:45)!
And the job of non-believers, presumably, to feed the believers to the lions. That's how it works, isn't it - Matthew 7:12 clearly states not to "remind" unless you wish to be "reminded" yourself. Odd how that verse is so often relegated to file 13, isn't it?
NO! Matthew 7:21 says "Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven" and says NOTHING about "unless you wish to be "reminded!"
Romans 2:21 ""Thou therefore which teachest another, teachest thou not thyself?..." Therefore, when we "teach another; we REMIND or "teach" ourselves."
Works that way!
But I didn't reference matt 7:21. Matt 7:12 was the verse:
12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
If you don't want others to "remind" you of your false beliefs, don't "remind" them, either. It is the Law and the Prophets.
You have just made me laugh! That had never occurred to me.
Comical, isn't it? The hypocrisy is astounding as endless lists of reasons to ignore that verse are concocted and used.
There are so many verses they ignore - the one where all goods in the early church were divided amongst its members, and if a rich man had two fields, then he gave one to a poor man. Heaven forbid Joel Esteen having to put that into practice.
And then there's the one about being meak - politely going away when asked, etc. Doesn't happen.
Oh, and helping the poor. Nope. Whoever does not work, shall not eat.
I wonder if any of them ever read the bible cover to cover. I have - at least 18 times, plus studied it in the days when I was a fundamentalist.
Wouldn't you tell someone they had a million dollars in the bank if so! Would you tell your children not to take drugs for there are "repercussion?" Would you not LOVE another enough to TRY & tell them of HIS mercy & kindness when you KNOW?
If not we don't have the kind of LOVE Christ had! In Jesus' departure speech in John 13:34 JESUS SAID "A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one another; as I have loved you (AGAPE), that ye also LOVE one another. By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have LOVE (AGAPE) for one another."
One sees another soul as "his child" when "IN" Christ! As a child, MOST don't want to hear TRUTH but Scripture says in Hebrews 12:11 "Now no chastening seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby."
As a child (Matthew 18:3), if one "listens," "afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness..."
IF WRITTEN it is not "false beliefs!" Just against what RELIGION has taught! "...And so is Christ!"
All of which comes down to ignoring the words of Matthew, doesn't it? Lots of excuses and reasons to do so, but at the bottom it remains exactly what it is: do unto others whatever you please, without regard to whether you would like it done to you.
Here. Here it is again, this time from Luke, in Luke 6:31:
31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise. (If you wish to be "reminded" of your falsehoods, then remind others of theirs".)
But you'll ignore Luke just like you do Matthew, won't you? Because you prefer to act as you wish without regard to others.
You might even bear in mind that I, an atheist, am following the words and guidance of your prophets in reminding you (you obviously wish me to do so as you are reminding others) while you refuse to follow them yourself.
Matthew and Luke tells us to "treat people the way we want to be treated" and I don't know about you but (and is what is wrong with American and Religion) I prefer TRUTH! Now you can say "It's *my* TRUTH" but being a "believer" and not "an atheist" I tell TRUTH (give WORD)!
Unfortunately, "...Know ye not you own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates" (II Corinthians 13:5)? Since you are "reprobates" (Atheists), there's nothing left to do but "Shake the dust off my feet!" REMINDER: (Matthew 10:14-15)!
Why is it when GOD interfers with one's lifestyle they HATE HIM!
And here it comes again. "I know better than you. Only I know TRUTH. I will proclaim that TRUTH to all...but no one else need apply to tell me their truth for I am the only one that knows TRUTH".
Exactly what I said - lots and lots of excuses to ignore the words of your god while you do exactly what you are told not to do. The hypocrisy of the believer can be (and often is) truly astounding. The one universal "commandment" that we find in every belief system and philosophy in the world, and is in Christianity more than once, but is set aside and ignored in order to exert control over others. And it is accepted to ignore His words because "I'm ordered to do it by the god that told me not to". Astounding hypocrisy indeed.
Scripture tells us to "shake the dust off our feet" but you will have "repercussions!" I really don't want that for you! Matthew 10:14-15 "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake the dust off your feet. VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."
Wilderness: I do; "Do unto others as I would have them do unto me!" AGAIN, I'm TIRED of being LIED to by society & RELIGION! I'm 67 years old and TIRED of this LYING WORLD! When I was 'in the world,' I did EVERYTHING I thought myself big and bad enough to do! Where did that get me? Nowhere! I still felt empty after accomplishing from the projects (housing) to where I thought I would NEVER live; and other things I NEVER thought I would accomplish; still empty! I began "drinking and drugging" more; and more; and more still not being able to feel "that empty spot!" I had no other alternate; I turned to GOD! I begged and pleaded with HIM to come into my life (IF HE WAS REAL) and HE heard my cry! I just heard myself scream (from nowhere) I BELIEVE and from that day on "the empty spot" has been filled! No more loneliness, no more desire to drink, drug, party, etc. GOD CHANGED MY LIFE!
I realize I'm sharing my testimony with an atheist, but it's TRUE! Since "IN" Christ, HE has spoken to me "DIRECTLY" (BS huh?)! I know you don't believe but it's TRUE! I just wish EVERYONE KNEW how POWERFUL HE IS! I wish EVERYONE KNEW HE can change a nobody into somebody! I wish EVERYONE KNEW HE is "faithful" in HIS PROMISES! I wish EVERYONE KNEW HE "DOES" - "lead and guide us into ALL truth" and "show you things to come" (John 14 & 16)!
To an unbeliever I KNOW this sounds like the biggest 'pile of dung' ever written! But it's TRUE! I LOVE EVERYONE (souls) and just want them to experience what I have experienced! That's ALL! *I* don't mean to intrude in people's lives, I just want them to know "As there is a law of gravity; there's a law to form a REAL relationship with GOD!" GIVE UP! GET TIRED of doing the same old things and ending up with the same old results - NOTHING! I pray EVERYONE gets TIRED as I did! HE'S "WAITING!"
When one goes to GOD "WITH A PURE HEART" and "WAIT" for the HELP HE PROMISED in John 14:26 and 16:13 to be "lead and guided into ALL truth" - NO MORE LIES! Sound like a bunch of BS to you too (a believer) huh? As I told Wilderness, "There's a LAW to forming a 'relationship' with GOD and the ONLY WAY one can do it is to "obey HIS 'LAST" commandment! But RELIGION has taught MOST to evade such mystical ignorance! MOST have gone so far as to call the Holy Spirit; demonic and mystical!" Satan is ELATED!
Before JESUS ascended into heaven (Acts 1:9), HE asked all disciples (not just the 12) to "Not to depart from Jerusalem (or ANYWHERE) but "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for the POWER (Acts 1:9) we had heard from HIM" in John 14:26 and 16:13! THEY "OBEYED!" We don't! We arbitrarily jump up grab the Bible "interpreting" it the way "WE" think is right and have created over 33K denominations in the United States alone!
"OBEYING" is the "KEY!" Sounds redundant doesn't it? However, without the POWER (Acts 1:9) which gives us the "CONNECTION" for HIM to "speak DIRECTLY to us" (Acts 1:2), we are NOTHING and will believe any and everything from one who we "think" is in authority!
As I told Wilderness; "As there is a LAW of GRAVITY; there is a LAW of being "IN" Christ" and that is to "OBEY" HIS "LAST" Commandment! Once HE speaks DIRECTLY to you, Jeremiah 31:34 says "We won't have to teach our brother and/or neighbors for they will ALL KNOW HIM from the least to the greatest!"
Happy New Year Y'all!
That's great that you invite and encourage others to explain their religion to you, that you listen and work to understand their truth, that you agree with them that their truth is real and actual. It's wonderful that you encourage the followers of Islam to regale you with verses from the Koran, that you wish followers of Satan to give you the words from their God to examine and read. I'm sure that you have studied these other religions thoroughly and agree that they all represent TRUTH, that their sacred writings are TRUE and that their beliefs should take priority over yours. It is, after all, what you give to others.
No, I don't think so. Somehow I don't think you are interested at all in the Koran and don't wish to see any of it. I don't think you wish to read the writings of Satanists or even Pagans. I don't think you have studied their beliefs and don't think you encourage them to speak of their beliefs or believe them when they do.
The words of Matthew and Luke are not to be followed, nor even considered.
I will tell you one thing. It is the height of rudeness and insensitivity to tell someone about your god because you believe you should. You are stealing someone else's time and patience telling them something they don't want to hear. Christianity has been around for 2000 years. Please believe me, we've all heard it. If we are not Christians, it's because we don't believe it and we don't want to be Christians. We have that choice, and by constantly forcing your 'conviction' on us, you are being rude..
One of the reasons atheism has become so militant is that manners meant that if someone was telling us something, it meant that we had to be polite and listen to it. At a certain point, because we were bombarded with every second dick and his dog telling us the gospel, witness of the great love of the lord, etc. it just got too much. We've heard iit all before - a thousand times. We're tired of it It's your right to believe what you like. it. We don't.
Let me ask you something. Muslims are commanded in the Koran to kill infidels (non believers). How do you feel about that? As much as you believe you've got the right religion, they believe they have the right religion. Should they go around killing people who don't believe because their 'bible' told them to do so? By the same token, do you have the right to go around and force your belief on other people because your 'bible' told you to do so?
You are certainly welcome to believe whatever you like. What you're not entitled to do is waste the time of other people who don't want to hear it - again.
By your own rationale, how are you entitled to your own magniloquence?
John Quincy Adams, sixth president of the US spoke out against slavery by Muslims:
“The natural hatred of the Muslim towards the infidels is in accordance with the precepts of the Koran."
He saw the difference between Christians and Muslims:
“The fundamental doctrine of the Christian religion is the extrapolation of hatred from the human heart. It forbids the exercise of it, even towards enemies.”
“In the 7th century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab … spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the world. He declared undistinguished and exterminating war as part of his religion. The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust, to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.”
Not so nostalgic, but at least its the truth!
Tess, don't respond! No one wants to "steal your time and patience!" Disciples of Christ do what's commanded of them and you have "CHOICE!" You can believe anything you like as well and when/if you don't want to hear, bow out!
Ignore! Can you?
Concerning Muslims: II Kings 17:29-41!
Phoenix: "The Spirit of the LORD is upon me..." (Isaiah 61)!
Galatians 4:29 "But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, EVEN SO IT IS NOW!"
This confirms your statement "Colorfulone!"
Flesh vs Spirit!
Wilderness, I never said "I'm the only one that knows truth!" That's you "perception" of me! I give WORD and can "prove" my "revelations" from GOD! I find no one on HP willing to "prove" their belief although Scripture tells us to! They begin "name calling" when TRUTH is shown as repeated by Phoenix from one Hubber toward me today ("arrogant, narcissistic...")! However, Bible tells us to LOVE as Colorfulone stated!
When "teachings" are against what one has been "taught;" they DEFY Scripture by NOT "proving" their belief and no one is strong enough in their faith to do so! Hebrews 6:1-3 says we MUST do so in order to "go on unto perfection!" But pride has MOST not "going unto perfection!" Go figure!
I sure like one thing Tess said "I don't see Christians selling their possessions and dividing equally!"
I subscribe to the Christian faith and if asked I would say as much. If anything is true of Jehovah, it is that he gives people a choice. These are always very sensitive matters and people must be allowed to choose to discover or not discover the truth for themselves.
Christianity is a beautiful concept and it makes sense to me. But, like so many things that man puts his grubby hands on, it get soiled quickly. How many branches and sects for any single denomination? If anybody truly had the objective answer there would not be so many interpretations. We use religion and our interpretation of scripture to justify our point of view, so has the BOOK been understood correctly? Anybody that thinks that God sent Trump, must actually believe that God sent us a "dirty angel" to lead us to the promise land. Obama, with a wholesome nuclear family, is considered the Anti-Christ, while Trump as the biggest philanderer ever to sit in the Oval Office is considered a "Christian in training". It is interesting how we bend interpretation of scripture to coincide with our points of view, instead of the reverse.
I remain skeptical of most of those who proselytize, waiting for such ones to actually "walk the talk".
Great! Teachings against what you have been taught DEFY scripture!
So what? Your "teachings" (from what you have been taught) DEFY common sense and truth. Whether it defies reality or your scripture, God's word says do not proselytize (or exert control via laws or other methods) unless you wish it done to you. A statement you steadfastly claim does not apply to you because it is "good" to "spread the word", because you know TRUTH, because you are instructed to, etc. Claims you cannot support any more than you can support the truth of your scripture, although it still has nothing whatsoever to do with following God's word: He did not say "violate this rule if you present TRUTH", or "violate this rule if you think it is best for the listener", or give any other excuses.
He just said "Do unto others as you would they do unto you" without any exceptions.
That is an interesting perspective, is that why conserves here are so terrorified of views of the country from the outside?
Diversity is realityand so is Climate change, that is of course, if we go with the opinion of the overwhelming number who areexpert in the topic and not just take the highly esteemed opinion of Donald Trump and Sarah Palin as gospel.
According to the dictionary the word proselytize means "to convert" or attempt to convert, from one religion, belief, or opinion to another. That is what Christians are called to do.
The word "proselytize" has gotten a bad connotation from those who misinterpret the word and what it truly means. They lack the knowledge of what sharing the Good News means.
Sure there is the Great Commandment (love). There is also the Great Commission to go into all the world..."to convert" people by repentance, to change their belief, to believe in the Good News of Jesus Christ.
Jesus commissioned his disciples to preach repentance... "The Good News" to all nations, "to convert" others by sharing their faith in His life, death and resurrection and the forgiveness of sins.
"How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!" So, in a way those who carry the Good News have spiritually had a pedicure, and their feet are beautiful in God's sight.
If, we truly love our neighbors, we should not just let them go into eternity without Jesus, without sharing the Gospel. Its like carrying the good news that the 'battle of war' is over and everyone is safe, and that all one has to do is accept the free gift of salvation through faith.
Its a pedicure! Just some spiritual humor on the pedicure.
"Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."
Whatever a person has in their heart in abundance is what they speak....
unless they are being deceptive, or think they have to be PC.
We have free speech, or we don't. - I'm at liberty.
Amen! Amen! Amen!
LOVE that "pedicure" humor! I've got one!
II Corinthians 3:17 "Now the LORD is THAT SPIRIT: and where the SPIRIT of the LORD is, THERE IS LIBERTY!"
You are so right! People simply don't understand what it means to proselytize - especially on a thread meant to unite all Americans by rubbing salt into wounds.
I simply have to share my experience with you. It happened when I met Father Christmas when I was six years old. I had my my own very personal experience with him.
He told me if I went out and told everybody about him, he would give me all the gifts I wanted, and after I died, I go to the North Pole and become an elf in his factory. Can you just imagine all that love?
Just imagine the love. Nobody loves me now. Nobody gives me presents now. I don't have anything as magnifient as that commitment on this earth. I just dream of the day I get to spend working in that cold artiic workshop. Don't you think that Father Christmas gave me an amazing promise?
Every since then, I've been working to convert people to Father Christmas. Fortunately, there's a mass of evidence for his existence. For example, his photo is on every Christmas card. (Well, many of them). Plus there are the pine trees. Where do you think the Christmas trees came from if it wasn't for Father Christmas? Then there are all the diffeerent names he is known as. Obviously, someone that well known has to be authentiic. So it's not as if proof for Father Christmas doesn't exist. I mean there is more evidence for the existence of Father Christmas than there is for Julius Casesar.
Anyway, I just wanted to pass on this superb news to you. Who wouldn't want to be an elf in Father Christmas' workshop after death. Imagine all those amazing presents. And whenever you ask for something on this earth, my father Christmas will give it to you.
Imagine having a daddy billionaire for a father. Such loving kindness. It's not as if anybody else loves you. It's not as if there are better things to do with your time than annoy other people by your constant ranting about a non existent entity on a post about something completely different.
Nope, people just don't understand how to witness to others.
Really, they ought to get a life.
What else is there to do with one's time other than go on about Father Christmas?
Factious are we Tess?
Sorry you think that's all I do is try to "convert" people to Father Christmas and don't have a life!
Why do you HATE GOD so? Is it because HE'S against your lifestyle? I'm just curious? What has HE done to you?
Wilderness ; GOD told us to do unto others as we would have them to unto us" and I do! All I want from another is DON"T LIE TO ME OR ON ME! I HATE LIARS as much as I HATE RELIGION!
You're right Wilderness! The GOD I serve (aka THE CREATOR) told disciples of Christ to "Have no other gods before HIM" and since they don't serve the TRUE AND LIVING GOD; not interested!
What makes you equate a dislike of being lied to with hating a non-existent god? That's quite a jump, isn't it?
Of course you do. You really want others to shove their silly beliefs in your face at every opportunity, demand your time to hear their falsehoods, etc. Of course you do.
Truthfully though, I don't expect a far right Christian to understand the concept at all. And they don't - those two verses are so thoroughly spun that the letters might as well be tossed into the air to see what words come out of it when they fall.
RELIGION and society has LIED to ALL; losing souls; confusing MOST causing NO ACTION from PROMISES of GOD! It is "quite a jump" from what WILL actually happen IF one "obeys" and "line up" with the instructions given to inherit HIS PROMISES!
*I* don't want "others to shove their beliefs in my face..." I want them to KNOW the instructions they've not been "taught" via RELIGION to inherit THE PROMISES are PRECISELY the opposite of what IS WRITTEN!
"Truthfully," you and the majority of others will not "understand the concept at all" because of the LIES "taught!" As there is a recipe for cooking a dish, there is a "recipe" to form a "relationship with GOD" and MOST haven't been "taught" causing them not to see ANY EVIDENCE of a GOD! They become "dry bones" and attend a church with "dry bones" members and eventually become disgruntled and say "What the Hell!" and become an "Unbeliever" and/or an Atheist! I would too!
When "gold" was discovered in California, they didn't keep it a "secret" and when I found the "recipe" to form a DIRECT COMMUNICATION LINE to GOD; HE "revealed" to me how to "get in line" for the CONNECTION to inherit HIS blessings, you think I can "keep it a secret?" If one LOVES someone they want "good" for that individual! They want that individual to have access to EVERYTHING that would prosper them; both physically and spiritually! When "IN" Christ, one has AGAPE LOVE and want ALL to experience! Just a bunch of BS, huh? They said the same thing of JESUS!
You say the Scriptures say "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you?" I AM! I AM praying that all listen to what GOD has SAID to align with HIS WORD to form THE CONNECTION for ACTION from GOD! No more "dry bones!" No more RELIGION! No more LIES!
"*I* don't want "others to shove their beliefs in my face...""
Then, please, follow the instructions of your god and refrain from shoving your beliefs onto others. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" and keep your beliefs to yourself, just as you wish others to keep their beliefs to themselves.
I am a disciple of Christ and as such OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS (John 14:15)!
JESUS didn't tell me to "keep my beliefs to myself" but COMMANDED me to find out what their beliefs are (Hebrews 6:1-3) and "CORRECT" (II Timothy 3:16) with HIS WORD!
We "will know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:16) or whether or not the are TRULY "Christians," when they do are do not do as WORD "COMMANDS!" I Peter 3:15 says "But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready ALWAYS to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:" Therefore, when you see one "hoping" one "goes away," DELETES HIS WORD, DEFY HIS WORD, or such; we "KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUIT" and "there is NO LIGHT in them" (Isaiah 8:20), only use HIS WORD to justify their "self righteousness" and are of Satan (I Corinthians 10:21)!
I understand you are an Atheist, but for people to "proclaim Christianity" and feel the way you do, ("GO AWAY!") are only LYING HYPOCRITES using GOD to justify their "self righteousness!" At least you are honest! You have stated "I am Atheist; therefore LEAVE ME ALONE!" To that I say, we ALL have "choice" but when you get TIRED of trying everything to "fill that empty spot;" HE'S WAITING!
No, you actually don't understand why people are atheists. Atheists are the most highly intelligent people on the planet. They are also the most educated and study after study has shown they know more about religion than religion people. Most of them them have had 'personal relationships' with gods before realizing it's a lot of hogwash.
In fact, your own pastor might be an atheist. If you want to research it, google pastors who have become atheists. There's an entire organisation that caters for them. They don't tell their congregations and they live a lie. But if they leave, they won't have a job.
The percentage of atheists in prison is also the lowest, while Christian criminals compares favourably with other religions. Religious people are far more prone to crime than atheists are.
STudies have also shown that atheists donate more, are more ethical, and have more stable marriages with lower divorce rates.
You know absolutely nothing about atheists except the lies you have been told about us. But then, you're believing a whole lot of lies, anyway. There are no gods. There was no Jesus Christ. You're on your own. When you die, you die.
And if you honestly need the threat of hell or the reward of heaven to make you do good to others, then you're a sad case.
You miss the WHOLE POINT! It's LIES via RELIGION that has driven you to become "self sufficient/righteous!" It's RELIGION that has LIED to MOST to make people MISS the CONNECTION LINE to GOD and therefore have not acquired "HARD EVIDENCE" that there is a GOD! It's RELIGION that has made MOST "search" via their knowledge looking for TRUTH! It's RELIGION that Satan has used to LOSE SOULS!
I "know you already know," but let me REMIND you! Acts 1:2 says "Until the day in which he as taken up, AFTER THAT (Did you hear "AFTER THAT?") he "THROUGH THE HOLY GHOST" (Did you hear "HE speaks to us through the HOLY GHOST?") had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen" (Did you hear HE speaks DIRECTLY to us - TODAY (Hebrews 13:8) "IF" we have been "chosen" or have OBEYED by "WAITING" (Acts 1:4)? That's the WHOLE POINT! HE told us in Jeremiah 31:34 that Under the New Covenant "No man would have to teach each other because HE would speak to us DIRECTLY "IF" we OBEY HIS "LAST" Commandment!"
That's the problem! MOST (Especially preachers) haven't "obeyed" and is why morals and values (aka unbelievers) outweigh"Christianity!" I AGREE!
I don't worry about "the threat of hell or the reward of heaven" for ANYTHING because I know I AM RIGHTEOUS BY by "FAITH" (Romans 3:22) and "doing good to others" is only a by-product of being "IN" Christ! My concern is making it through THIS LIFE in receipt of ALL OF HIS PROMISES which makes for HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS "IN" me SURPASS those of unbelievers! REMINDER: "For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall IN NO CASE ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN" (Matthew 5:20)! Now, with GOD speaking DIRECTLY to us, how could it not?
Therefore, do you see what RELIGION has done? Do you now know why "there are more "proclaimed Christians" not EXCEEDING the righteousness of unbelievers?
I agree with you "It's SAD!" No one has ever "taught" TRUTH!
IT IS "SAD!"
I HATE RELIGION!
I'm so glad you asked me why I hate god? I don't, but it does give me permission to ask what your real issues are. What are they? Did you lose a boyfriend? Don't you have any friends? Are you poor? What are the real issues in your life, and why do you think God will solve them? Also, what do you hope to achieve by writing in capital letters? You do know that it doesn't emphasize importance, don't you? It means you are shouting at someone. Don't you think it's rude to shout to people? Do you think you will convert anyone by shouting at them? Or does it just make you feel good about yourself.
I spent ten years as a fundamentalist Christian. It remains the single most destructive element in my life. My life started repairing itself when I used real life solutions to real life problems
For instance, it's pointless praying to god to fix up a crooked nose. Getting an operation fixes it up.
It's pointless praying to god for more money when simply finding a way to earn more money is more likely to have results.
Praying to a non-existent god will not fix up your issues. I know that, because I spent 10 years as a fundamentalist Christian, plus 5 years at a religious school, plus another 10 years working through the garbage heap of the law of attraction and other bs.
Thankfully, I am now in a state of unbelief. The day I finally admitted to myself I was an atheist set me free.
If God doesn't like my lifestyle, then he must be an unethical, immoral, horrible, murdering ignoramus. My lifestyle is (and always has been) highly ethical by any humane standard.
What is it that you think god won't like about my lifestyle? Please do tell. After all, I'm sure that God is telling you all this stuff personally. And I want evidene. God is mighty after all, isn't he? He will surely provide you the evidence that I am living the kind of lifestyle that will bring on another flood or send the world to Sodom and Gemorrah. And ddon't give me a bible quote. I probably know the bible better than you ever will. And it is a weak mind that has to rely on spouting gibberish verses because it doesn't have the ability to reason.
God has never done anything to me or for me. He doesn't exist. Christians, however, made my life a living hell, and I finally succumbed to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder which took me 15 years to eradicate. The financial destruction was something I never recovered from and the emotional destrution took 20 years to cure.
Why do you have a need to shout at people at hubpages? Are you mentally ill?
Tess, dear Tess! I LOVE you girl! Do you notice how I "placed emphasis" on the word LOVE by using caps and not "shouting?" Tess, read what I wrote to Wilderness because you are a prime example of what RELIGION has done to lose souls!
I am a 67 year old woman who is "computer illiterate" but have a Message that is MORE IMPORTANT than using computer etiquette! I don't care if you think I'm crazy, illiterate, rude, WHATEVER; I want you to understand the Message (aka "recipe") to CONNECT to GOD!
I had not read your comments BEFORE responding to Wilderness, but my response to him applies to you also! You see what their "dry bone" RELIGION has done to you? You see why people get "disgruntled" and turn away from GOD? You see how Satan has used RELIGION to make people become "disgruntled" and walk away from GOD TRYING to fill that "empty spot" I had for so long? LIES; ALL LIES! I'm TIRED! GOD is TIRED!
Tess, (unlike you) I BELIEVE the Bible "IS" the WORD "from" GOD and therefore it is "IS" GOD speaking (John 1:1)! You stated you "know the Bible better than I do" so I don't have to tell you GOD told us to "Be fruitful and multiply" and a "same sex relationship" causes humans to lose the capability to replenish the earth! Think! If we all eventually formed a relationship as such; how long would we (man) last? You don't have to be "RELIGIOUS" to realize this! I won't bore you with Scripture since you know better than me but by "human standards" it's not right! Only a couple 100 years from now (might be better off) we (man) wouldn't exist!
"GOD has NEVER done anything for you?" My GOD Tess! You're breathing aren't you? You've been given MERCY to do anything you want to do whether you are right or wrong! You've been given health and strength with all your faculties about you! You've have the intelligence to acquire provisions in your life! You've been provided doctors to "straighten your nose!" You are BLESSED and I'm sure in more ways than I've listed! What about family and friends? What about finances? You say *you* did all these things? Back to basics girl! Who REALLY gave you the ability to do these things? I'm sure LYING "Christians" have "made your life a living hell" because if they don't know the "recipe" then they are just another person "thinking" they "know" GOD!
Look what they've done to not only you but MOST "Ex-Christians?" Look what RELIGION has done! I HATE RELIGION! I HATE LIARS! I HATE SATAN for using RELIGION to LOSE SOULS!
Oh, as far as "finances" are concerned (the least of matters), do you think after 43 years of marriage we didn't plan for latter years? What FOOL wouldn't? We're not rich, but we don't lack! We own 10 acres in Arkansas in addition to other properties and I'm working on my husband to "get back to basics" by moving to the country growing our own food and raising our own stock! He's not loving the idea but I'm praying because who knows what the Trump administration will bring!
You poor soul. I'm truly sorry for you being so misguided. I can see from what you have written that you really are sincere.
I don't believe anyone on hubpages has ever been converted to Jesus Christ. Good luck to you. I'm outa here.
The sad part about is that your statement "I don't believe anyone on hubpages has ever been converted to Jesus Christ" is TRUE! MOST didn't realize Jesus' LAST commandment was to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) for HIS "help" PROMISED in John 14:26 and 16:13 and just "took off" like a man dragging a cow by his tail across the field saying "I got this!" HA!
"Poor soul?" I know "you already know," but let me REMIND you of what Hebrews 6:10 says "For GOD is not unrighteous to forget your work and labor of love, which ye have shewed toward HIS name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister." Therefore, I don't need anyone's "luck" for I have a WORD from GOD! However, "good luck" to you since you don't BELIEVE for that's all you have - "LUCK"
You really don't get it, do you? We've all heard this bs before. I first joined hp 6 or so years ago, and then left and came back 2 years ago. I left because of the Christian and political trolling. I hated it.
I truly do not want to hear this bs. You're either deluded or mentally ill. Normal, well adjusted people don't go on the way you do.
I have absolutely no idea why you think you should impose your rants on the rest of us, but it is annoying, and it is ugly.
You mean someone else have told you MUST be "anointed with the Holy Spirit" BEFORE you become "IN" Christ or a "Christian?" They told you you had to do as THE FIRST CHURCH did on the Day of Pentecost? They told you have to let "FIRE set upon you" (Acts 2:2-3)? They told you you had to "appear as drunken men" (Acts 2:13)? They told you AFTERWARD you would receive "POWER" (Acts 1:9)? They told you had to "WAIT" (Acts 1:4) to be "chosen" (Acts 1:2)? They told you GOD would speak DIRECTLY to you (Jeremiah 31:33-34; Acts 1:2)? They told you ALL of this Tess? That's a "cop-out" LIE! Because if they knew they would've presented EVIDENCE showing the FACT there is a GOD and you wouldn't be where you are today!
Just say "I don't give a D***" which would be more TRUTH than what you're stating!
You're "ugly!" JUST MORE "LIES!"
I know "you already know" but Hebrews 4:12 says the WORD of GOD "cuts" when it contradicts one's lifestyle! They become "hard hearted" when they wish to remain in their unrighteousness! What other reaction should you present? WORD is TRUE!
You could actually be a pretty good author, publish books and earn some extra income with a little more inspiration. I enjoyed reading your post, Tess. You have talent there and could really develop that to a whole new level. There is a lot of attention on the North Pole (and South Pole) these days, maybe not so much about Father Christmas...but you could bring that back and make it great again!
I don't 'rant'.
That is your personal perceptions because of your learned environments and your own reactions.
I'm very much at peace...peace to you! (Yin-Yang)
"To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to THIS WORD (aka "Father Christmas"), it is because there is NO LIGHT in them."
Why do you promote "propaganda?"
"As the world turns!"
We continue to long for propaganda and anything that "tickles our ears" don't we? Anything BUT the "ranting" of GOD!
Your "peace" certainly is of "YIN-YANG" and "MEGA!"
I was speaking to Tess.
I love the meat of the Word.
Enoch was the most enigmatic. The Hebrew traditions teach that he was taken to heaven when he was 365 years old, and shown all the secrets and all wonders of the universe, and was told to put them in books (not just the Bible) and bring them to the sons of men. -- The Book of Enoch, The Book of Giants, the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Rosetta Stone, etc.
Why people cannot understand this history is because of a convoluted camouflage of the truth in order to deceive mankind. So, when the antichrist comes on the scene...it was effective when he showed up and corrupted humanity, now, they don't have to do that sexually like before the days of the flood (Genesis 6) and after the days of the flood. They're doing it now genetically through genetic altering and mutation. Today they don't have to do it through the fallen angels, (aliens), the extra-dimensionals, ...who come to deceive the world, and to repeat history.
So much so, that Jesus said, 'that if the days were not shortened for the elites sake, there would be no flesh left alive.'
Do you believe people in the forums can follow that? Can you?
God accepts us where we are so I believe we should do the same.
GOD DOES NOT "ACCEPT US WHERE WE ARE "IF" WE ARE IN "UNRIGHTEOUSNESS" believing WORD that has not been "rightly divided" (II Timothy 2:15)!
I don't care about Books being left out of the Bible because GOD has TOLD US *HE* would "lead and guide us into ALL (Did you hear "ALL?") TRUTH" (John 14:26; 16:13)! People worry about the wrong things!
I keep telling ALL, if you didn't OBEY HIS "LAST" Commandment, you have NO CONNECTION TO GOD wherewith HE can "put HIS law in our hearts and minds" (Jeremiah 31:33; Hebrews 8:10; 10:16; Acts 1:2) and are NOTHING!
"Do you believe people in the forums can follow THAT? Can you?"
Don't think GOD ACCEPTS ALL are Galatians 1:6-9 LIED! (v9) "As we said BEFORE, so say I now AGAIN, IF ANY MAN preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto you than that ye have received [from Paul], LET HIM BE ACCURSED!"
AGAIN: "Do you believe people in the forums can follow that? Can you?"
Thank you. Colourful one. Much appreciated.
Yes I've always been told I am a talented writer. Not very good at earning income through it, though. I find that very tough.
http://bestebookstories.blogspot.co.za/ … words.html
I'm so glad you asked me why I hate god? I don't, but it does give me permission to ask what your real issues are. What are they? Did you lose a boyfriend? Don't you have any friends?
NeNe: I am a happily married woman of 43 years! We are one and know each other so well I know what he's thinking before he opens his mouth!
I went out last night with my best friend in celebration of her birthday which was on December 29th! I took her out to eat and we shopped to buy what she needed! I give! I love!
I really have a FULL life! The wife of a retired barber and have obtained many friends through his employment! He's now the Commander of an American Legion and AMVETS Post (Lord I hate those "banquets!")! Am retired from the Federal government so have many friends after 25 years of Federal service. Am a real estate agent and have acquired many friends through that occupation. Not to mention how I've acquired friends from total strangers by telling them about JESUS in daily life and you should know by now "I've never met a stranger!"
Girl, I would describe myself as a "butterfly for the LORD" fluttering around telling ALL about JESUS! I love my life!
Not to mention my children! WOW! Great kids! They KNOW the LORD! Two of the 4 are now working on a non-profit organization called A.M.E.N.
I'm so BLESSED with family and friends but they're NOTHING in comparison to the CONNECTION to GOD!
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.
Some trails are happy ones,
Others are blue.
It's the way you ride the trail that counts,
Here's a happy one for you.
Happy trails to you, until we meet again.
Happy trails to you, keep smilin' until then.
Who cares about the clouds when we're together?
Just sing a song and bring the sunny weather.
Happy trails to you, 'till we meet again.
Happy trails to you, it's great to say "hello".
And to share with you the trail we've come to know.
It started on the day that we met Jesus,
He came into our hearts and then he freed us.
For a life that's true, a happy trail to you.
I wish all those hollywood liberals a safe journey
There's a sad sort of clanging from the clock in the hall
And the bells in the steeple too
And up in the nursery an absurd little bird
Is popping out to say, "Cuckoo"
Regretfully they tell us cuckoo, cuckoo
But firmly they compel us
To say, "Goodbye", to you
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, good night
I hate to go and leave this pretty sight
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, adieu
Adieu, adieu, to you and you and you
So long, farewell, au revoir, auf wiedersehen
I'd like to stay and taste my first champagne
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye
I leave and heave a sigh and say "Goodbye", goodbye
I'm glad to go, I cannot tell a lie
I flit, I float, I fleetly flee, I fly
The sun has gone to bed and so must I
So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, goodbye
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye
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