Are you an Obama supporter and why?
Obama has influenced many people and he has gained many supporters. I was just curious why you do or do not support Obama, and your reasons why. I feel as though every president for the last few decades have been promoting the same policies and this is why our country is in bad shape. How do you feel about this?
Well I am not an American so I suppose this question is not realy intended for me.
But if you have an opinion, Dawnmars, say it! We are amongst friends here and hopefully non judgmental friends. What do you think? If you aren't up to the latest information, by all means, pass on your opinion, but if you have an opinion, say it!
Fair enough. Although in my opinion in the USA the governmental administration seems to be more powerful and unfathomable than any political figure at any given time of office. This is not realy an attack on Obama. Just an observation from outside.
You are right. The bureaucracy has a mind of its own. Administrators create their own dictatorships. That and the struggle for power is the problem with any government.
Well since we are moving towards world government and world currency you'd better get in the conversation.
No. There are many reasons and I am not sure the full run down would be appropriate here. The short and simple count is:
1. Obama is killing American citizens without due process.
2. Obama continually side steps legal processes to do what he wants.
3. More undeclared wars.
4. Remember when he kidnapped the media and had a "secret meeting with Hillary"? I do. "Those who refuse to disclose the truth have something to hide." Barack Obama. This act is a representation of his character and how he has treated the American people with the same disregard all corrupt politicians do.
These reasons and more are something better discussed in the forums. Or better yet, in person. They are simply strong examples of the things he does that I do not support. And no, for many similar reasons, I do not support Romney either.
I sympathise quite a lot with you PoV here, but you must remember it isn't a choice between Obama and an idealised combination of Jefferson, Roosevelt and Bambi. The menu is what is in front of you and there are no substitutions!
#1 can be debated, since many presidents in time of war have done that.
#2 Isn't that better than being forced to do nothing because the conservatives won't compromise on virtually anything?
#3 You must be thinking of Bush on this one.
Yes Obama is doing a lot of shady things. And I wouldn't be so easy to trust anyone on the other side of the aisle either. They all work together and they all plan against us and they figure out ways to line their pockets with more money. Good lUck
Sebastian, that is part of the problem. People think there's a menu.
Esoteric, you make me sad.
1.Assassinating civilians, sorry.
2.Then it's better for us all to break the law.
3.You don't see it?
4.Maybe you should.
No, I won't get over it until all of the vestiges of the disaster his eight years in office have finally left the scene. Conservatives must glory in it because they seem to be doing everything in their power to keep it around.
My Esoteric, Bush and Obama are not only related, but follow most of the same policies, at least the important issues. Actually, Obama has raised the national debt way more than Bush. Not that I am a Bush supporter, but also not an Obama supporter.
Republicans and Democrats are in place to keep the public arguing for a team. Both teams are corrupt. It has worked very well for a long time. Some people are figuring it out. The rest, having their beliefs challenged, defend this game of fools.
Were I an American citizen I would certainly support Obama. In a nation which really has only two political parties of note, the Democrats come far closer to my own ideals than do the more conservative Republicans. That's one point.
I've also got in my possession a book writeen by Obama before he became President. I'd liked his views then and still do.
He has, unfortunately for him, inherited a period of history whereby he was put in a tremendously awkward place. I'm talking about the Global Financial Melt-down and the woes that it is causing not only to Americans but the world in general.
I think history will show him to be one of your best president.
Wholeheartedly. He is brilliant, wise, disciplined, contemplative, and deliberate. In the face of the most outrageous and hostile opposition, he has conducted himself with unimaginable dignity and restraint.
In spite of the republican majority in Congress, whose stated aim was, from the beginning, to destroy his presidency, he has managed to accomplish many things beneficial to the middle class. He has shaped foreign policy in a steady, responsible, and measured manner.
If American voters will open their eyes, educate themselves, and wise up, they'll re-elect him and provide him with a Democratic majority in Congress in the coming election. Then, working together, they'll accomplish many more things (universal health care, creating jobs, rebuilding the infrastructure, restoring public education, etc.) and finally lead this country to a great recovery from the failed and disastrous policies going back to Reagan and Bush 1.
I'm not...he changes his opinion as the wind blows. He is inexperienced and frankly, I feel sorry for the man. He bit off more than he can chew.
The view from Europe ... well, not really, my view anyway.
Obama has been a huge disappointment, especially on climate and environmental issues. From one point of view he was always going to disappoint because expectations of him were so high. His goal seems to be to seek consensus and to work together with other political groupings to find mutually beneficial - or at least acceptable - outcomes. He starts from the premise that everyone is working rationally towards much the same goal.
Unfortunately this view requires a half-way sane opposition to engage with, and honestly you do not appear to have that in the states. You have a republican base that seems to fear knowledge and exalt profound ignorance. In Romney you may have the best of a bad bunch, but boy, what a bunch it was, and boy, how Romney played to them.
If I were a voter in the US I'd be voting for Obama, but more importantly I'd be voting for some sanity in Congress (which doesn't seem to be on offer). I think he still has the potential to be a great President, but he looks beaten down by the challenge and the legions of morons (not Mormons) that inhabit US politics.
I have never distrusted a public figure more than I distrust Obama. He just announced a new policy regaring the children of illegal immigrants. It's a reasonable policy in my opinion, one he could have negotiated through congress, but the chose not to. Instead, he unilaterally declared it to benefit himself in an election year. Any one who disagrees with it will be accused of launching another war - a war on hispanic children. Give me a break!
There is night and day between the conservatives and progressives on both social and especially on economic issues; huge, fundamental differences. It was only between 1961 and 1981 when conservatives lost control of one or the other party which they had dominated throughout American history, mainly the Democratic Party (1803 - 1897). So no, I can't support your assertion they promote the same polocies.
I just completed a very, very, very long hub, which is now going to a book in July, which sets out pretty clearly that when you have conservatives in charge, the economy becomes extremely unstable and enters the famous violent boom-bust cycles of the Austrian economic school, which is their model ... the great Conservatvice Recerssion of 2008 is a good example. When progressives are in charge, you have much milder business cycles because they follow, as did the Republicans Eisenhower and Nixon, the Keynesian economic model. It was Reagan who began the move back and Bush II finished the job.
I will be writing an equally long hub and book (well the books don't turn out that long, just the hubs) regarding social stagnation. The only time the world has moved ahead socially, which includes civil rights, is when progressives were in charge and it was a bitter fight indeed for conservatives were not, and still are not, having any of it.
I am a moderate progressive who believes in a better America, no question I am for Obama. I don't want an America of 1850s, which is where I believe Romney and the conservatives want to lead us.
Romney is the same as Obama. I don't believe progressive politicians bring change, I believe they bring tyranny. You must let people do what they do best and create and innovate. Government just eliminates competition and quality.
SportsBetter again speaks true. It's all the dog and pony show.
I am just tired of their rhetoric. They all say they will do the right thing. They just say it differently. Nothing comes for free. (healthcare, jobs and taxes). It seems to me greed, lack of ethics and morals has put us all in detriment. Local officials that run city govt are corrupti Uh, spending tax payer dollars for mistresses, expensive clothing (1000.00 T-shirt, and how about our president who smokes?) He isn't a good example of the health care system? Should his premium be high because he is a strong candidate for lung cancer?
I sit on the fence...I read a bio on Mitt Romney and did not like that he only truly supports believers of his church...If you are not a mormon, you are not in his radar as a friend. Neither served the country in war...how do they make decisions about what they haven't lived through. But he is better at creating jobs perhaps because he himself is a business owner.
They both have friends that pay the coffer to get their ideas passed and to get into office. Though Romney has his own money; a self-made millionaire.
So where does this lead us as a country?
I think a woman needs to be president. I want a woman to run.
Wow, I couldn't have said it better. Exactly my thoughts on the subject.
Actually, I was a Hillary supporter, but am very happy that Obama won, if she couldn't. One advantage of a woman leader of any sort, a lot less chest-thumping (Pelosi aside) and more policy-making; less war as well. Hillary is amazing as SOS.
You are correct. I don't know why you think a woman wouldn't be corrupt. And Hillary is corrupt for sure. They are all friends and work together, Democrat or Republican. They aren't different they are all just trying to gain power and money.
Well said. And I agree again with SportsBetter.
I say that, because, as a group, historically they have proven to be much less corrupt than men, as a group and FAR less likely to lead a country into pointless war like Iraq. Most aren't womanizers either, lol.
There hasn't been many woman in power to say that men are more corrupt than woman. I have met some very scandalous woman before.
I think the President has done a good job overall, and has been a 'steady hand at the wheel.'
But the biggest reason that I support him is that the Republican party--the party of Lincoln, and of several good friends--has become hostage to big business interests advocating policies destructive of the national interest. The most important of these is the issue of climate change: although we have seen three decades now of increasing global temperatures, as witness thermometers, satellites, and such natural indicators as sea ice, glaciers, and the changing distribution of plants and animals, anti-science ideologues sponsored by Exxon and the Koch brothers' foundations continue to insist that it's all a conspiracy on the part of scientists who either a) want to promote world-wide socialist rule, or b) want to run up the grant opportunities as much as possible.
Yes, really--it's a cartoon magazine notion on the face of it, but one seriously advocated, and apparently believed, every day. And the GOP--especially the Tea Partiers--has bought into this nonsense to the extent that a potential nominee dare not disagree with the O'Reilly-Hannity--Morano-Inhofe dogma, if he or she wants to have a hope of winning their primary. Republicans who remain rational on this score are retiring--people like Olympia Snow, or Sherwood Boehlert--or at least soft-pedaling their former opinions--like John McCain. It would be funny--or funny in a less mordantly dark and ironic way--if it weren't for the very good reasons to think that this stance will be extremely destructive of everyone's future health, wealth and well-being.
So, getting back to the President, I support him as not being utterly deluded on the most important issue of our day. As they say, "consider the alternative."
Actually, if you trace the actual philosophical lineage (I am in the process of writing a hub about it, but it will a bit before I get to the civil war period) Lincoln is the leader of today's Democratic Party, although he started out Repubican.
Hello JSChams, My Esoteric is right on the philosophical positions of the Republican and Democratic parties in the past. Lincoln would have been a modern Democrat. He was for enforcing strong federal government and Democrats of his time were opposed
I do, though more out of disate for the GOP candidates than real fervor for him.
He's not a great President, but he's done better than any Republican would do (well, maybe not better than ANY, but better than any that would have any chance of being elected).
The Dems have their problems, but the GOP is far worse. This insane idea that big government is evil is very dangerous. *We* are government and the bigger we are, the more protection we have from corruption, discrimination and ideology. Small government can take over and ride roughshod over rights; with a strong Federal government, minorities have enough total representation to avoid that.
Local corruption is often easy to hide out of fear. Without a strong national presence, little fiefdoms would pop up everywhere.
So, I'll be voting for Obama. Not because he's the best, but because the alternatives are dangerous.
Well I am not a Bush supporter but just know that Obama raised the national debt to 4 trillion in less than 4 years and Bush raised the debt that much in his 8 years in office. So Obama thinks he can find prosperity by getting into debt. Okay?
i'm Canadian but i believe he is the best thing to happen to the U.S. since before Clinton. i don't care what others think because i actually listen and watch what he is trying to do. it's almost impossible for him to get anything done when anyone with half a brain knows that the republicans control the U.S. and they love playing games with him.
Obama had good intentions but you know where they lead to...
One example: There is no way you can take all those 6+ K figures from people in charge of the US health care
I am totally in support of Obama.
1) he walked in to a huge mess left by a republican and so far has done a pretty good job of digging things out.
2) Over 3 million jobs have been created since he has been in office
3) The stock market has been on the rise more during his term then in the last 8 years.
4) He has to spend money to keep cleaning up the mess that George W. Bush left
5) He realized that the war that George W Bush started was useless and made the decision to pull the troops and bring them home.
6) If any of you that complain about him can do better then run for president
7) if Mitt Romney becomes president we are all screwed royally
8) I will vote for him again and he will win because not many like Mitt Romney
9) He accomplished a lot in three years considering the hand he was dealt
10) I will stand by my president for another four years because he is the better choice of the two running.
I think it barely matters. Corporate America is trying to divide us into tribes that fight to the death over nothing, and it's working. Until that stops, we might as well all just put our brains in park and let them take whatever is left.
It's time to stop feeding this beast. Turn off the TV. Look around. Connect to others. Fix what you can. Because if you think beating these political drums means anything, you're being used.
You are right and wrong. Para 2 is right, you must get engaged, politically, but I don't think Corporate America has anything to do with the fight you mentioned. That fight has been going on since the fight over the ratification of the Constitution
I completely agree - one only need look at "Citizens United" ruling to see the truth in this - of course that would require people to not be lazy and actually pay attention to the things going on that most mass media doesn't cover.
Very true. I don't trust any politician. To be honest they all work together. They can be republican or democrat and they are both playing for the same team. They argue over insignificant things but agree over all the major things.
Sportsbetter, then why do you keep electing them into office or do you not prefer to vote, since all politicians are on the same team?
Yes i am a Obama supporter! I feel like the president is fighting for the less fortunate. I also dont agree with all that he does but he is by far the best man for the job at this time as we are fighting this war against poverty. Obama is fair and being fair sometimes won't win you many popular votes.
His solutions actually cause problems. If government tries to fix something that works, they create more problems. Government says we have a problem, then they "correct" it then they cause two new problems. Govt can't create prosperity, people do.
I do not agree with all of his policies, but for the most part I'll support him because he has done what he could to not create more poverty and attempted to fix the healthcare system in this country.
I do not see the Republicans Party trying to empower the majority of the population financially or spiritually.
In fact, I consider Republicans to be somewhat irrational and unstable in terms of their economic, societal and spiritual policies.
I do not trust any of them...Democrat, Republican...it does not matter, they are all out for themselves. It is a shame as we do have a wonderful beautiful country with wonderful beautiful people. It is obvious to this thirty something Cali girl that the bipartisan system we have in not working and creating more problems for everyone. I do not have any answers on how to change this but it is obvious that things need to change.
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