Creation or evolution?

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   Athlyn Greenposted 10 years ago

   Creation or evolution?
   
   Did man get here by being created or did he evolve?

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   swordsbaneposted 10 years ago

   The process of Evolution is documented, observed in nature and without it existing, much of modern medicine, genetic engineering, and advancements in bio-engineering could not occur.  All of modern science accepts evolution.  There is probably at least one drug you have taken in your life that would not exist if evolution was not real.  As any biologist and they will patiently explain to you how evolution works.
   
   Creationism on the other hand has: The Bible, and several dozen screaming non-scientists saying "Evolution?  Nu-uh!"
   
   What do you think?

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      IT WAS GOD THAT GAVE MAN THE KNOWLEDGE,NOT EVOLUTION,THE BIBLE SAYS SO,TAKE TJME TO LOOK UP SCRIPTURES ON THE KNOWLEDGE OF MAN.

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   ElderYoungManposted 10 years ago

   Great question.  The answer is both, depending on which man you are talking about.  A "Man" was created.  That created man was made in his finalized state and only learns, but does not physically evolve.  He has an original seed and is a child of Adam or a pure Homo-Sapien.  The other man has a non-Adamic seed and is not a pure Homo-Sapien.  This information became available with the Neaderthal Genome project that concluded that the only pure Homo-Sapiens were those with lineages traced directly back to Africa.  Two other seeds of non-African origins were traced back to north western Europe; the Neanderthal chain and the Caucuses Mountains between Easter Europe and Asia; the Denisovan chain.  So, Neanderthal and Denisovan man evolves through breeding and reactions to physical stimuli.  Pure Homo Sapiens don't.  Very interesting stuff.  news.discovery.com/human/genetics-neanderthal-110718.html

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      ElderYoungManposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Most people on the planet right now that don't have African roots are up to 4% Neanderthal/Denisovan and other dna.  I wrote a hub about it.  State of the world Part 2 goes into detail.  Part 1 talks about the Biblical origins of these two non-Adamic

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The WORD OF GOD SAYS THAT GOD CREATED MAN FROM THE DUST OF THE EARTH,NOT FROM A MONKEY OR EVOLUTION,AND THE WORD OF GOD HAS THE FINAL SAY OVER CREATION,SCIENCE CANNOT PROVE DIFFERENT,TRY STUDYING CREATIONISM FROM A CHRISTIAN VIEW .

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   junksellerposted 10 years ago

   Apples and oranges. Evolution is a scientific body of knowledge which merely attempts to understand the patterns observed in the world around us. It doesn't purport to be an absolute truth. As a scientific theory it is entirely open and meant to be testable through scientific discovery and research. Evolution isn't meant to answer the question of the origin of man.
   
   Creationism is a belief. It is meant as an absolute truth. It is not intended to be testable or questioned and is specifically meant to answer the question of the origin of man.
   
   Neither has any affect on the other. They are entirely different modes of knowing.

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      swordsbaneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Not quite.  Evolution is a description of a process that fits all of the observable data
      
      Creationism is a denial of the process and either ignores observable data or claims that it means something other than what it looks like.

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      junksellerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "all of the observable data" is an absolute I doubt few scientists would ever make. Absolutes are for theists, not science. Turning Evolution into an absolute truth is antithetical to the scientific process.

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      swordsbaneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "ALL" is not scientific.  If I had said "absolutely all" then you could question that statement, or if I said "100% of"
      
      The process we know of as "evolution" fits with all the observable data we've collected.  Creationism fits hardly any of it.

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      darklandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I have to agree with junkseller, observable data is a construct within the evolution theory, it can't make a statement beyond what is observable and therefore can't discuss origin or cause only process

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      FROM birdy5776: If you take the time to read the book of Genesis,it describes the beginning of Creation,the start of it.Then read the book of Revelations, and you will find out how the end results will be for the creation of MAN and THIS WORLD.

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   IDScienceposted 10 years ago

   The question needs elaboration. There are many types of evolution, and many types of I.D.
   
   Creationism (strictly Jews, Christians & Muslims) being only one philosophy of the I.D. hypothesis
   
   Theistic evolution predicts there are front loaded variations that stay within species/family groups, which is the observable evidence, and the reason why punctuated equilibrium was invented by Gould.
   
   Darwinian evolution predicts all life came from one single cell, which is far from the evidence. In fact every prediction Darwinian evolution has made (that I'M aware of), has been repeatedly falsified. The theory is in complete disarray, and the recent Altenberg 16 meeting was to discuss new mechanisms for a dying theory on the ropes
   
   Also there are atheist I.D. proponents (Raelians) that reject both God and evolution, they believe some other form of alien intelligence created life including man
   
   So you need to be specific when asking this question because many people (including judges) erroneously equate intelligent design with religious creationism
   
   There are many I.D. proponents that believe all species including man were created by an intelligence, but do not want to be included in the same category with religious biblical creationists.

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      Volitansposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Evolution as a theory is in complete disarray? You should probably check your facts. Evolution is one of the most robust scientific theories, with mountains of corroborating evidence.

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      IDScienceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I said Darwinian evolution (all life from one single cell), not evolution.
      
      "The Origin at 150: is a new evolutionary synthesis in sight?" E. Koonin
      
      "The Fate of Darwinism: Evolution After the Modern Synthesis" Depew
      
      Darwinian evolution is dead

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      Volitansposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "Let us be clear, too, that in saying this we are not saying that Darwinism as such is on its deathbed." Deprew.
      "All existing life forms descend from a single ancestral
      form, the last universal common ancestor (LUCA)? YES." Koonin.

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      IDScienceposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Of course they are Darwinian evolutionists, what do you expect them to say?. They still believe in Darwinian (all life from one cell) evolution, they just reject selection of the luckiest randomness as a mechanism, but that is evolutions foundation

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      ONLY ALMIGHTY GOD HAS THE INTELLIGENCE TO CREATE MAN,BOOK OF GENESIS,THE BIBLE,READ IT.

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   nightwork4posted 10 years ago

   obviously this question can't yet be answered without the other side disagreeing. we could have got her by aliens or just by evolution but were not sure yet.

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY TRUTH ABOUT WHERE WE CAME FROM,LOOK IT UP.

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   Dolphan5posted 10 years ago

   Did man get here by being created or did he evolve?
   
   Assuming here means planet earth, I believe man was created by God!
   My definition of god is: a personage that has absloute power and control over the entire visible (things we can see) and invisible (things we can not see) universe and was the creator of all of it!
   
   Man as one of those creations has a high degree of adaptability to changing circumstances.
   
   I do not believe humans evolved from a lower life form or that we will keep evolving into a higher life form!
   
   That's my 3.5 cents(Inflation)

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   yssubramanyamposted 10 years ago

   Creation is man made term. evolving is change in every second for survival /perfection stage. it is a non stop process. nothing is exceptional . good hub. As whole the entire universe is undergoing gradual change to its own destiny.

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      the bible says that GOD created man,heavens and the EARTH,NOT MAN OR EVOLUTION.

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   Hui (蕙)posted 10 years ago

   Evolution originates from the knowledge and understanding by humans of the nature where they live, while creation from the ignorance and misunderstanding by humans of the environment where they live. In the present 21 century with amazing technology, that still this many people stick on creation by gods, which were made up by human imagination, implies that humans are still not strong enough, or may say still weak, in front of the nature.

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      birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      YOU ARE IGNORANT IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THE BIBLE IS THE ONLY TRUTH AND EXPLANATION OF CREATION.

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    wetbaknproudposted 10 years ago

    I'm a catholic but i don't believe blindly  everything the church says but in this case the catholic position is that both go hand in hand  and i agree with that.

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       Larry Wallposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       The answer is rather simple. Evolution is the tool God used in the creation process. Some will point to the seven days in which God created the earth. We think of a day as 24 hours. For God, a day could be centuries.

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    jlcustompcposted 10 years ago

    Do you mean Creationism or Abiogenesis
    
    Because Evolution does not explain the beginnings of life only the process of change of said life.
    
    While Abiogenesis or biopoiesis is the study of how biological life could arise from inorganic matter through natural processes.
    
    So a little clarification on your question is a bit needed.
    
    Evolution is well documented but Creation has never been ever remotely determined further the creator can not be pointed out so without explaining a creator there is not creation.....Lastly IF there is creation and a creator.....where did the creator come from?

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       darklandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       good point

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       birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       DAH,THE BIBLE SAYS THATOD DID THE CREATING,NOT EVOLUTION.

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    Volitansposted 10 years ago

    All the evidence we have seen points to man, like all other life on Earth, having evolved from earlier life. There is no physical evidence to suggest anything to the contrary.
    
    Of course, all that could change if paleontologists excavated, for example, a legitimate Pre-Cambrian rabbit.

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    kdawsonposted 10 years ago

    There is evidence for evolution while I see none for creation except for faith.

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       birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       THE EVIDENCE YOU SEEK IS IN THE BIBLE.

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    Virtuous1posted 10 years ago

    Genesis 1:26 tells us that God created man and female. I don't
    believe in evolution

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       swordsbaneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       That's the thing.  Science doesn't require belief.  It exists based on a single principle: If something is right, then it can be demonstrated.  If it can't, it's isn't.  The bible requires you to believe in it, IN SPITE of what you see/hear/think.

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       Dolphan5posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I appreciate you standing up for your belief Virtuous!

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       Virtuous1posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       thank you Dolphan I won't move from my stand on what I believe..

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       Sayyeda Zonahposted 8 years agoin reply to this

       We have been created, not evolved. Even Quran gives us prove that Adam And Eve were created and were sent down from Heaven

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    darklandposted 10 years ago

    I love this question, thanks for asking it.
    I am sad that so many evolutionists have become religious by stating something is proven beyond all question.  In order to be scientific one has to be open to any data that may arise.  All science has seen reversals because something is discovered that changes the whole question.  I think we should continue with evolution but constantly consider all the options and be open to new ideas.  That's true science and it's very exciting.
    The theory has been hurt by reducing it to a fight between religion and science. It really isn't about that. You'd be surprised how many scientists have no trouble going to church on Sunday.

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       swordsbaneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Actually, very few scientific discoveries have been "reversed"  Most get refined by new data.  Anti-evolutionists have a tendency to think that if some part of a theory is wrong or looks like it may be wrong, it invalidates the whole thing.

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       darklandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       I disagree thoroughly, as technology makes more data available theories, hypotheses, and even laws are constantly revised or junked completely.
       My point is as scientist, you have to remain open minded to anything or you're worse than a religionist

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       Larry Wallposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       The most famous of the evolution Theory is Darwin's Origins of the Species. The key word is theory. Based on observations he  he deduced that man descended from the Great Apes. We still have apes. He did not resolve the missing link issue. God does.

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       birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       READ YOUR BIBLE THE WORD OF GOD, IT DOES NOT MENTION THE WORD SCIENE AT ALL.

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       darklandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks birdy, we get it.  I respect your views but we all know the position.  It doesn't help much to bridge the gap WWJD, I doubt he would repeat the same thing over and over again, that wasn't his style.

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    connorjposted 10 years ago

    I believe both have had a significant impact and they indeed are part of the same process. There is no doubt that we have indeed evolved; simply look at the evidence. However, why has man became so dominant relative to other inhabitants? Could it be, because of the most fabulous and complexed 3 lb mass in the known universe, the one within our heads? Read some C.S. Lewis in particular Mere Christianity...

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    oceansiderposted 10 years ago

    Jesus Christ, our God and Savior,  created the universe in six days, and on the seventh day He rested. And, He created each and every one of us "fearfully and wonderfully" in our mothers' wombs!  He created animals and plant life and everything you see here on earth that is not built by men.  He gave people dominion over all things upon the earth.

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    K M Allredposted 10 years ago

    I have a friend that swears that there is no such thing as evolution because, "If we came from apes, how come there are still apes?"  This question frustrates me and actually upsets me.  If I can look at something as simple as a disease, something like MRSA (which is just staph that is methyllin resistant) and see that it exists as well as normal unresistant staph then I see the product of evolution, an adaptation to an environment that occurs in populations.  I do not discount God and the belief that there is a supreme being, yet I KNOW based on the theory of evolution that we are all products of evolution.  First, evolution is not "Just a Theory" meaning that it is some hunch thrown out there by crazy scientists.  A theory is when a scientific hypothesis is tested and shown to be "true" over and over again.  The difference between a theory and a law is that there is still much that we do not know about the microscopic, cellular (and complicated) process that is involved.  Experimental Evolution has actually shown how a single-cellular organism can evolve into a multi-cellular organism. Man evolved!
    The main argument with this question is between science and religion.  They are inherently two different fields, one based on repeatedly tested proof and the other based on belief (that usually cannot be questioned or tested because there is no way to prove it).

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       darklandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

       My problem is that the word "truth" implies something beyond question which is, by your definition, religion. It's not scientific. Evolutionists need to beware not to become what they argue against.

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       birdy5776posted 10 years agoin reply to this

       WE ARE NOT PRODUCTS OF EVOLUTION,BUT FROM A CREATOR,GOD ALMIGHTY,WHERE WE CAME FROM

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